Hi Just a thought but could this not be the Michel "Daigle/Dokis" family from Nippissing. Regards Aline ----- Original Message ----- From: "RDWinthrop" <RDWinthrop@a1access.net> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 6:58 PM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] LAMARANDIERE [was : NATIVE GENEALOGY RESEARCH GROUP] > Art - > >> My gg grandfather was Alexis De La Morandiere, b. 1806; d. 1900 in Killarney, ON. He >> married Mile L'Aigle, d. 1834. She was perhaps from Nipissing, ON and may have been >> Ojibwe. His mother was Sai-Sai-Go-No-Kwe who was either Ottawa or Ojibwe. We >> know she was a member of a band of Ojibwe in ON but oral tradition holds that she >> was an Ottawa, born in MI. They had two girls: Alelaide, b. June 1830, and Pauline, >> b. 17 Mar 1832. Pauline was my great grandmother. > > This clipped from a gedcom sent to me by Jim LaLone ... > > 4. Etienne-Augustin ROCBERT- LAMARANDIERE b. 2 May 1767, Varennes, > Montreal, Qc, CAN, occupation fur trader, m. 1800 at Mackinac > (Mackinac Co) MI tto Josette SAISAIGONOKWEE (b. c1783, poss. Kalamazoo > Co. MI, d. Nov 1868, Killarney ONT). Etienne-Augustin died 1 May 1859 > at Killarney ONT, buried: 3 May 1859, Killarney ONT. Established > trading post at Muskegon before 1810. Or b. c.1784. Founder of > Killarney, Ont. Josette: Sauteuse or Ottawa. Aka SASEGANOKWE, aka > Falling Snow. > Children: > i Josephte DeLAMORANDIERE b. 1801, Kalamazoo, Kalamazoo Co., MI, > m. (1) in Drummond Is., MI, Thomas PRIOR, m. (2) _____ PECK, > occupation Cpt. Josephte died 1854, Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., > MI. > ii Julia LAMORANDIERE b. May 1804, bp. 21 Aug 1818, Detroit, > Wayne Co., MI, m. 28 Jul 1825, in Drummond Is., MI, Jean-Baptiste > ROUSSEAU. Julia died 1903, Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI. > iii Alexis DeLAMORANDIERE b. 6 Jul 1806, Mackinac, Mackinac Co., > MI, m. (1) 1829, in Penetanguishene, Ont., CAN, Mile L'AIGLE, m. (2) > 1842, Angelique HUGHES. Alexis died 6 Mar 1900, Killarney, Ont., CAN. > 5. iv Aker/Aken/Etienne/Steve b. c. 1808/10. > 6. v Adelaide-Marie b. 10 Oct 1810. > 7. vi Charlotte b. 1812. > 8. vii Thadeus b. 1814. > viii Charles DeLAMORANDIERE b. Jun 1816, Mackinac, Mackinac Co., > MI, m. in Penetanguishene, Ont., CAN, Josephte SHEPARD. > ix Jacques DeLAMORANDIERE b. 1818, Drummond Is., MI, d. Jan > 1837, Penetanguishene, Ont., CAN. > x Frederic DeLAMORANDIERE b. 15 Aug 1828, Spanish River, Ont., > CAN, m. (1) 20 Aug 1868, in Wikwemikong, CAN, Mary MATCHISIBI, m. (2) > 1895, in Southampton, Ont., CAN, Mary GRANDVILLE. Frederic died 1902, > Cape Croker. > >> My query to the research group concerns Mile L'Aigle. She may have been the d/o >> a chief named Eagle. I think this is speculation. Actually, I know nothing about her >> and would like to know everything. I haven't a clue as to how to find her. I have >> not found her death record, or anything else. Do you think anyone there might know >> any of the details of her life?--or how to research her? After her death Alexis remarried >> and raised another family. The girls were raised by their grandparents-I believe. > > Don't know how the French say "eagle" but in Anishinaabemowin a Bald > Eagle = Migizi, a Golden Eagle = Giniw ... there isn't a generic form > for "eagle" as each particular animal species had its own name. > >>============================== > > Below clipped from datafile relating to Thaddeus LAMARANDIER (c.1842) > who served in a Michigan sharpshooter regiment and was killed 12 May > 1864 at Spotsylvania VA. > > -- > > It is likely that Etienne LaMORANDIER handled Joseph BAILLY's post on > the Muskegon; his name appears on BAILLY ledger sheets of 6 Aug 1803 > and 2 Aug 1804. BAILLY had traded on the Grand as early as 1793 and > his papers suggest activity on the Muskegon, an important route > between the north central Lower Peninsula and the important winter > hunting / spring gathering grounds of lower Lake Michigan. > > Traders would bring winter furs to Mackinaw along the Indian trails > each spring, crossing the Grand at Campau's and the Muskegon at > Truckee's [Joseph Troutier], then following along the north side of > the River to Old Womens Bend where it joined the trail north; when > the first road was built north out of Grand Rapids to Pentwater it > closely followed this trail (portion now known as Crooked Road between > Newaygo - Fremont). > > Etiene Lamarendier established a post at the mouth of the Muskegon > River sometime prior to 1800, perhaps in association with Joseph > Bailly (who had been trading in the area as early as 1793). The Bailly > account books show the name Lamarandier in 1802. In 1810, Alexander > Etiene Lamarandier was born at Muskegon Lake. The elder Lamarandier > was French, but had sworn allegiance to the English which he > considered binding even past the end of the Revolution. Bailly and > Lamarandier were held, briefly, as British spies during the 1812 war. > Lamarandier relocated to Drummond Island where he supplied the Brits > with corn & hay during the 1820's, then returned to the Muskegon Lake > area. The younger Lamarandier married a "pure blood Ottawa woman and > opened a post on the flats at the Old Women's Bend on the Muskegon > (about two miles below modern Newaygo) where a small community > developed, aka Indian Town (what else ...); eventually, lumbering on > the Muskegon required higher water and the flats were flooded, ending > the post and the village, although the building remained until 1917. > The name Lamarandier was hard to pronounce and so it was discarded and > the middle name Etiene was corrupted into Aiken. Alex Lamarandier had > sons Tom (d. 1931), Jacob, and Robert. Tom's daughter was married to > an Alex BROWN and lived near the old post at ___ as late as 1960. [42 > TOTEM POLE #2 (2 Feb 1959)] > > Etienne fathered Alexander Etienne on the Muskegon [Muskegon Lake] in > 1810 where he grew to manhood, married a full-blood Odawa, and > eventually established a post at Old Womens Bend, two miles below > present Newaygo on the Grand Rapids - Pentwater Indian trail. A > cluster of 35-40 cabins grew around the post and a Catholic church was > built to host monthly services at so-called Indian Town. > > When lumbering began in the region and it was 'necessary' to dam the > river the bring the logs down from the interior, the village flat > would be flooded and many of the cabins had to be moved to higher > grounds. The LaMORANDIER cabin had clapboards and remained habitable > long after most of the others were dillapidated or taken down, and > many LaMORANDIERs were born there (Jacob, Robert, Tom Aiken, sons of > Alex), although Americans making their way into the area had trouble > with the name -- it became Etiene, and then Aiken. The post was torn > down in 1917 for a gravel pit. [A Spooner 1975?] > > Gordan S. Hubbard and Jacques Defrain wintered in 1819 in an abandoned > post on Muskegon Lake which likely was the BAILLY / LaMORANDIER site. > > --- > [<1810] [?Alexander] Etienne LAMARANDIER had established a trade > post on the Muskegon by 1810 [note: see above] and may have traded > into Newaygo Co. {H L Spooner 1954: 4} > --- > Etienne was still farming near Newaygo in the 1891; had been in employ > of or dealing with Antoine Campeau into 1840's > {Baxter 1895: 273} > --- > [1894] "In July, Louis Etienne LAMARANDIER, the oldest Indian in > the county, whose home was at the Indian settlement at Old Woman's > Bend below Newaygo, was found dead in a sweating place in the woods > which he had constructed. He was found under some blankets draped over > a wooden framework. He had used hot stones to produce the sweat." > {Spooner 1954: 291-292} > --- > > None of this may be on your target, but hope you find it at least > semi-interesting. > > Any & all information about Thaddeus (c1842-1863) is certainly > welcome. > > regards - rdw > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx