This helps me very much. I can't help but wonder if the use of the word Partiridge to refer to the popular upland game bird, was meant to include the Ruffed Grouse species. Any thoughts on this? Thanks, Tom Cuthbert >From: Dagwaagin <dagwaagin@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com >To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Re:Ojibway Word for Partridge >Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 15:32:41 -0800 (PST) > >Aaniin, >Bi nay I have not yet found the word for Ruffed >Grouse. Hope this helps. > >--- Thomas Cuthbert <imtomcuthbert@hotmail.com> wrote: > > "A Dictionary of the Ojibway Language" gives the > > translation of Partridge as > > "bine." How is this pronounced? > > > > Also, is there an Ojibway translation for Ruffed > > Grouse? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tom Cuthbert > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > Fast. Reliable. Get MSN 9 Dial-up - 3 months for the > > price of 1! > > (Limited-time Offer) > > >http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the > > new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > > to learn more. > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > >===== >Thoughts... >The gift of happiness belongs to those who unwrap it. > >The person who is looking for faults should look in a mirror. > >A person shows what they are by what they do with what they have. >Authors unknown > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster >http://search.yahoo.com > > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? Lightning-fast Internet access for as low as $29.95/month. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200360ave/direct/01/
>This helps me very much. I can't help but wonder if the use of the word >Partiridge to refer to the popular upland game bird, was meant to include >the Ruffed Grouse species. Any thoughts on this? I may as well add to the confusion ... ruffed grouse are indigenous to North America and their native habitat encompasses all of the traditional Algonquin lands, so they would certainly have been recognizeable and named by Anishinaabeg. Partridges, however, are not native -- the gray partridge from Europe and the uncommon chukar from the Middle East were both introduced for 'sporting' purpose. The gray's range extends into SW Wisconsin and Minnesota (except the Arrowhead) so they would not often have been familiar to anyone north of the Lakes, or east of central Wisconsin except on game farms and an enclave in the St. Lawrence valley. Can't put my finger on introduction date at the moment, but likely back half of nineteenth century when a great number of sport & songbirds were imported and some of them found niches. Their naming in Anishinaaabemowin is thus relatively recent. regards - rdw