Gordon This first one doesn't look like your Pontiff but may be previous generations and there is also a difference in spelling. First Generation 1. Jeanne DELATOUR was born 1688. Jeanne married Jacques-David PONTIFE, son of Jacques PONTIFE and Marie GRANDY. Second Generation 2. Jacques DELATOUR was born 1661 in Pubnico. He married Anne MELANSON on 1686. 3. Anne MELANSON was born 1668. Third Generation 4. Charles-Amador DELATOUR was born 1593 in Champagne. He died 1666 in Cap-de-Sable. Charles-Amador married Marie-Jeanne MOTIN on 24 fv 1653. 5. Marie-Jeanne MOTIN. 6. Charles MELANSON was born 1643. He died 1737. Charles married Marie DUGAS on 1663 in Port-Royal. 7. Marie DUGAS was born 1646. She died 7 Jul 1737 in Port-Royal. Fourth Generation 10. Louis MOTIN married Marie DESALINS. 11. Marie DESALINS. 12. Pierre LAVERDURE was born in Écosse. He married Priscille MALLISON on 1630. 13. Priscille MALLISON was born in Angleterre. 14. Abraham DUGAS was born 1616 in Toulouse, France. He died 1698. Abraham married Marguerite-Louise DOUCET on 1647 in Port-Royal. 15. Marguerite-Louise DOUCET was born 1624. She died 1707. You might also look at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pitretrail/myline/paternal/cpontiff.htm Charles Pontiff was born Abt. 1750, and died 15 July 1832 in Thibodaux, Lafourche, LA. These two had 16 chidren but you listed no children or siblings. Also try http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pitretrail/myline/paternal/PBerthelot.htm Notes for Pierre Berthelot: - Pierre Berthelot was born c1764 to French immigrant parents. They had left the Mobile area and settled along the Second German Coast (St. John parish). In 1784 he married Anna Barbe Kerner, the daughter of German immigrants. - 18 July 1786: Pierre bought a 5-arpent farm (bounded below by Charles Pontife and above by Christian Charles Smith) for 900 piastres. I don't know if these will help but... Larry Friend (Black Buffalo) friend@2z.net =========================================== -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Bonnet [mailto:jaggy227@fltg.net] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 9:04 AM To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Pontiff? Does anyone on the list know of any upper Midwest Pontiffs (or David dit Pontiff), probably of Quebecois origin? I'm looking for another of my lost-in-transition ancestors, Charles Pontiff, probably b. in the 1740's. I suspect from Quebecois records that he might have been David dit Pontiff. Any help appreciated! cheers, Gordon ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hi..... Thanks so much for your response! The first pair -- Jeanne DeLaTour & Jacques Francois Pontife (or Pontiff or David) are the pair that I thought for years were the parents of Charles. However, apparently Jacques died too early to be Charles' father -- and no one seems to be able to find any grandchildren of the pair. So (unfortunately) this seems to be a dead end. The Charles Pontiff in Louisiana you reference further down (the one with sixteen children) is indeed my forebear. He married Catherine Hauptmann (Hoffmann) and they lived down in SE Louisiana. One of his older daughters, Marie Louise Pontiff, married Jean Louis Exnicios. They are my g-g-g-g-grandparents. Charles Pontiff has resisted virtually all of his descendants' efforts to discover his origins. I'm trying everything I can to find Pontiff records, but still no real luck. Thanks so much for responding... I wasn't familiar with the websites you list, so I'll check 'em out. cheers, Gordon Larry F. Friend wrote: >Gordon > >This first one doesn't look like your Pontiff but may be previous >generations and there is also a difference in spelling. > > >First Generation >1. Jeanne DELATOUR was born 1688. >Jeanne married Jacques-David PONTIFE, son of Jacques PONTIFE and Marie >GRANDY. > > >Second Generation >2. Jacques DELATOUR was born 1661 in Pubnico. He married Anne MELANSON on >1686. >3. Anne MELANSON was born 1668. > > >Third Generation >4. Charles-Amador DELATOUR was born 1593 in Champagne. He died 1666 in >Cap-de-Sable. Charles-Amador married Marie-Jeanne MOTIN on 24 fv 1653. >5. Marie-Jeanne MOTIN. >6. Charles MELANSON was born 1643. He died 1737. Charles married Marie DUGAS >on 1663 in Port-Royal. >7. Marie DUGAS was born 1646. She died 7 Jul 1737 in Port-Royal. > > >Fourth Generation >10. Louis MOTIN married Marie DESALINS. >11. Marie DESALINS. >12. Pierre LAVERDURE was born in Écosse. He married Priscille MALLISON on >1630. >13. Priscille MALLISON was born in Angleterre. >14. Abraham DUGAS was born 1616 in Toulouse, France. He died 1698. Abraham >married Marguerite-Louise DOUCET on 1647 in Port-Royal. >15. Marguerite-Louise DOUCET was born 1624. She died 1707. > > >You might also look at >http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pitretrail/myline/paternal/cpontiff.htm >Charles Pontiff was born Abt. 1750, and died 15 July 1832 in Thibodaux, >Lafourche, LA. > These two had 16 chidren but you listed no children or siblings. > >Also try >http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pitretrail/myline/paternal/PBerthelot.htm >Notes for Pierre Berthelot: >- Pierre Berthelot was born c1764 to French immigrant parents. They had >left the Mobile area and settled along the Second German Coast (St. John >parish). In 1784 he married Anna Barbe Kerner, the daughter of German >immigrants. >- 18 July 1786: Pierre bought a 5-arpent farm (bounded below by Charles >Pontife and above by Christian Charles Smith) for 900 piastres. > >I don't know if these will help but... > >Larry Friend (Black Buffalo) >friend@2z.net > >=========================================== > >-----Original Message----- >From: Gordon Bonnet [mailto:jaggy227@fltg.net] >Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 9:04 AM >To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Pontiff? > > >Does anyone on the list know of any upper Midwest Pontiffs (or David dit >Pontiff), probably of Quebecois origin? I'm looking for another of my >lost-in-transition ancestors, Charles Pontiff, probably b. in the >1740's. I suspect from Quebecois records that he might have been David >dit Pontiff. > >Any help appreciated! > >cheers, > >Gordon > > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

How come all is quite? Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry F. Friend" <friend@2z.net> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 5:58 PM Subject: RE: [NISHNAWBE] Pontiff? > Gordon > > This first one doesn't look like your Pontiff but may be previous > generations and there is also a difference in spelling. > > > First Generation > 1. Jeanne DELATOUR was born 1688. > Jeanne married Jacques-David PONTIFE, son of Jacques PONTIFE and Marie > GRANDY. > > > Second Generation > 2. Jacques DELATOUR was born 1661 in Pubnico. He married Anne MELANSON on > 1686. > 3. Anne MELANSON was born 1668. > > > Third Generation > 4. Charles-Amador DELATOUR was born 1593 in Champagne. He died 1666 in > Cap-de-Sable. Charles-Amador married Marie-Jeanne MOTIN on 24 fv 1653. > 5. Marie-Jeanne MOTIN. > 6. Charles MELANSON was born 1643. He died 1737. Charles married Marie DUGAS > on 1663 in Port-Royal. > 7. Marie DUGAS was born 1646. She died 7 Jul 1737 in Port-Royal. > > > Fourth Generation > 10. Louis MOTIN married Marie DESALINS. > 11. Marie DESALINS. > 12. Pierre LAVERDURE was born in Écosse. He married Priscille MALLISON on > 1630. > 13. Priscille MALLISON was born in Angleterre. > 14. Abraham DUGAS was born 1616 in Toulouse, France. He died 1698. Abraham > married Marguerite-Louise DOUCET on 1647 in Port-Royal. > 15. Marguerite-Louise DOUCET was born 1624. She died 1707. > > > You might also look at > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pitretrail/myline/paternal/cpontiff.htm > Charles Pontiff was born Abt. 1750, and died 15 July 1832 in Thibodaux, > Lafourche, LA. > These two had 16 chidren but you listed no children or siblings. > > Also try > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pitretrail/myline/paternal/PBerthelot.htm > Notes for Pierre Berthelot: > - Pierre Berthelot was born c1764 to French immigrant parents. They had > left the Mobile area and settled along the Second German Coast (St. John > parish). In 1784 he married Anna Barbe Kerner, the daughter of German > immigrants. > - 18 July 1786: Pierre bought a 5-arpent farm (bounded below by Charles > Pontife and above by Christian Charles Smith) for 900 piastres. > > I don't know if these will help but... > > Larry Friend (Black Buffalo) > friend@2z.net > > =========================================== > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gordon Bonnet [mailto:jaggy227@fltg.net] > Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 9:04 AM > To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Pontiff? > > > Does anyone on the list know of any upper Midwest Pontiffs (or David dit > Pontiff), probably of Quebecois origin? I'm looking for another of my > lost-in-transition ancestors, Charles Pontiff, probably b. in the > 1740's. I suspect from Quebecois records that he might have been David > dit Pontiff. > > Any help appreciated! > > cheers, > > Gordon > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >