Hello Emery, Thank you for the info. I can scan the picture and article from the Elk Rapids Town Meeting for you. Maybe they did not even have the correct photo, as they obviously were wrong about his age. Let me know. Thanks, Ann Seaman kcsinc@chartermi.net Emery A. Iliff wrote: >Hello Ann, >Chief kewadin died 1884, he was very old, his approximate age in 1880 could >not possibly have been 35. You may have a mix-up there. Kewadin was my grt >grt grandfather, I have very little info on him, but I do know he was very >old when he died. Some memories of things told to me as a child remain with >me, and his extreme age was one of those memories. My father was born 1906, >and his mother was Kewadin's grand daughter,of whom I have a photo of. My >father is on the Durrant roll as Bird Maning. I currently am researching >Kewadin, will pass any new info on. Thanks, Emery A. Iliff >tomahawk4172@surf1.ws >----- Original Message ----- >From: "KCSInc" <kcsinc@chartermi.net> >To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:15 AM >Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Chief Kewadin > > > > >>Larry, >>I have an article written in the Elk Rapids paper, The Town Meeting >>Pub.No 096350, on June 18, 1997 by Glen Ruggles. Glen is an author of >>several books on the general Grand Traverse region, especially on the >>Chain of Lakes in Antrim County. Kewadin was a local Ottawa chief of >>the Chippewa Tribe and reputed to be a powerful man/medicine man, I >>think that would now be the Grand Traverse Band of Ottawa and Chippewa >>Indians in Peshabestown, Suttons Bay, MI.. Yes, he is buried in the >>Kewadin area of Michigan - North end of Elk Lake on the Res. here. The >>article's focus is mostly about an explanation of Indian names of the >>region but contains a picture (b&w) of Chief Kewadin taken about 1880 >>when he was about 35 years old. The Town Meeting's contact information >>is: The Twon Meeting, PO Box 335, 212 River Street, Elk Rapids, MI >>49629 - 231/264-9711. Also their website is http://www.upnorthpub.com/ >>Glen Ruggles contact info - 2531 Watonga Dr., Union Lake, MI 48382 >>(248) 363-6618 - I believe this is him. >>Hope this helps you somewhat. >>Ann Seaman >> >> >>Larry Cartwright wrote: >> >> >> >>>Does anyone out there know what clan Chief Kewadin was >>>in ? He died in 1884, I believe in Kewadin,Mi., and I >>>believe he was in the Grand Traverse Band. >>> >>>===== >>>Larry L. Cartwright >>> >>>__________________________________ >>>Do you Yahoo!? >>>Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears >>>http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ >>> >>> >>>============================== >>>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >>> >>> >go to: > > >>>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>============================== >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >> >> >go to: > > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> >> > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Hello Ann, Chief kewadin died 1884, he was very old, his approximate age in 1880 could not possibly have been 35. You may have a mix-up there. Kewadin was my grt grt grandfather, I have very little info on him, but I do know he was very old when he died. Some memories of things told to me as a child remain with me, and his extreme age was one of those memories. My father was born 1906, and his mother was Kewadin's grand daughter,of whom I have a photo of. My father is on the Durrant roll as Bird Maning. I currently am researching Kewadin, will pass any new info on. Thanks, Emery A. Iliff tomahawk4172@surf1.ws ----- Original Message ----- From: "KCSInc" <kcsinc@chartermi.net> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Chief Kewadin > Larry, > I have an article written in the Elk Rapids paper, The Town Meeting > Pub.No 096350, on June 18, 1997 by Glen Ruggles. Glen is an author of > several books on the general Grand Traverse region, especially on the > Chain of Lakes in Antrim County. Kewadin was a local Ottawa chief of > the Chippewa Tribe and reputed to be a powerful man/medicine man, I > think that would now be the Grand Traverse Band of Ottawa and Chippewa > Indians in Peshabestown, Suttons Bay, MI.. Yes, he is buried in the > Kewadin area of Michigan - North end of Elk Lake on the Res. here. The > article's focus is mostly about an explanation of Indian names of the > region but contains a picture (b&w) of Chief Kewadin taken about 1880 > when he was about 35 years old. The Town Meeting's contact information > is: The Twon Meeting, PO Box 335, 212 River Street, Elk Rapids, MI > 49629 - 231/264-9711. Also their website is http://www.upnorthpub.com/ > Glen Ruggles contact info - 2531 Watonga Dr., Union Lake, MI 48382 > (248) 363-6618 - I believe this is him. > Hope this helps you somewhat. > Ann Seaman > > > Larry Cartwright wrote: > > >Does anyone out there know what clan Chief Kewadin was > >in ? He died in 1884, I believe in Kewadin,Mi., and I > >believe he was in the Grand Traverse Band. > > > >===== > >Larry L. Cartwright > > > >__________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears > >http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ > > > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Larry, I have an article written in the Elk Rapids paper, The Town Meeting Pub.No 096350, on June 18, 1997 by Glen Ruggles. Glen is an author of several books on the general Grand Traverse region, especially on the Chain of Lakes in Antrim County. Kewadin was a local Ottawa chief of the Chippewa Tribe and reputed to be a powerful man/medicine man, I think that would now be the Grand Traverse Band of Ottawa and Chippewa Indians in Peshabestown, Suttons Bay, MI.. Yes, he is buried in the Kewadin area of Michigan - North end of Elk Lake on the Res. here. The article's focus is mostly about an explanation of Indian names of the region but contains a picture (b&w) of Chief Kewadin taken about 1880 when he was about 35 years old. The Town Meeting's contact information is: The Twon Meeting, PO Box 335, 212 River Street, Elk Rapids, MI 49629 - 231/264-9711. Also their website is http://www.upnorthpub.com/ Glen Ruggles contact info - 2531 Watonga Dr., Union Lake, MI 48382 (248) 363-6618 - I believe this is him. Hope this helps you somewhat. Ann Seaman Larry Cartwright wrote: >Does anyone out there know what clan Chief Kewadin was >in ? He died in 1884, I believe in Kewadin,Mi., and I >believe he was in the Grand Traverse Band. > >===== >Larry L. Cartwright > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears >http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Does anyone out there know what clan Chief Kewadin was in ? He died in 1884, I believe in Kewadin,Mi., and I believe he was in the Grand Traverse Band. ===== Larry L. Cartwright __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/

my new email address is ljmadden55@charter.net On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:20:47 -0500 "Larry Friend" <friend@2z.net> wrote: >Debbie > >Have you been in contact with: > Name: Robert Ward Chamberlain > Email: robertwc@adnc.com > >"Query: Seeking any info on ancestors of JOSEPH >CHAMBERLAND (aka Chamberlin >+ Chamberlain + Chanverlange), born c.1747, and > his wife >JOSEPHINE "Josette" LAROSE, born c.1770. It is believed >they were married >Feb 19, 1798 in Detroit, Mich. (His first wife was >Josephine Moret.) Joseph >was probably born in Detroit or Canada and died about >Sept 16, 1832 in St. >Antoine, River Basin, Michigan (Monroe, MI). Josephine >was reportedly "Fille >d'une sauvagesse" (born of an Indian mother), possibly >born in Detroit or >Canada, and died about January 14, 1829 in St. Antoine >River Basin (Monroe, >Mich). Their descendents lived in and around the Monroe, >Michigan area (and >possibly Toledo, Ohio) for many years. Thank you." > >Also the following may be of some help. >http://www.rootsweb.com/~wioconto/lookupsarchives/LaRose.htm > >http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/mi/wayne/vitals/marriage/dbn-apr3-2003. >txt has the marriage of: >CHAMBERLAND,JOSEPH - CHAMBERLAND,LAROSE,JOSEPHINE - >LAROSE,WAYNE,,19 FEB >1798,---,---,---, > >Also >http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/mi/wayne/vitals/marriage/dbn-apr7-2003. >txt has: >LAROSE,MARIE - DEGUIRE~LAROSE,GOUYOU,JEAN BAPTISTE >GOUYOU,WAYNE,,29 JAN >1720,---,---,---, >LAROSE,HENRY - LAROSE,TRUDEL,MARY JOSEPH TRUDEL,WAYNE,,13 >FEB >1804,---,---,---, >LAROSE,JOSEPHINE - LAROSE,CHAMBERLAND,JOSEPH - >CHAMBERLAND,WAYNE,,19 FEB >1798,---,---,---, > >I don't know if you have seen these or if they will help >at all but the best >to you! > >Larry Friend (Black Buffalo) >friend@2z.net > > > >============================================ > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Debbie Bert [mailto:debbiebert@ameritech.net] >Sent: 20 October 2003 14:02 >To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [NISHNAWBE] looking for > > >Have you got any info from "French Families of the >Detroit River Region, >1701-1936". >THere is some info on Josette but not on her parents. >Deb > >************************************** >Debbie Bert <debbiebert@ameritech.net> >************************************** >What you accept, you teach. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: james mayberry [mailto:jmay330@sbcglobal.net] >> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 1:51 PM >> To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [NISHNAWBE] looking for >> >> >> looking for any info on a male larose who was married >> to a native woman. the time period would be between >> 1745 and 1775. not sure if they were from canada when >> married but they were in detroit in 1770 for birth of >> their daughter. daughters name was josephine(josette) >> larose born 1770 in detroit, wayne, michigan. any help >> appreciated. also i have the geneology on this line to >> present. as to direct linage to my name now if anyone >> has need of info. >> >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online >>genealogy >> records, go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online >genealogy records, go >to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online >genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Debbie Have you been in contact with: Name: Robert Ward Chamberlain Email: robertwc@adnc.com "Query: Seeking any info on ancestors of JOSEPH CHAMBERLAND (aka Chamberlin + Chamberlain + Chanverlange), born c.1747, and his wife JOSEPHINE "Josette" LAROSE, born c.1770. It is believed they were married Feb 19, 1798 in Detroit, Mich. (His first wife was Josephine Moret.) Joseph was probably born in Detroit or Canada and died about Sept 16, 1832 in St. Antoine, River Basin, Michigan (Monroe, MI). Josephine was reportedly "Fille d'une sauvagesse" (born of an Indian mother), possibly born in Detroit or Canada, and died about January 14, 1829 in St. Antoine River Basin (Monroe, Mich). Their descendents lived in and around the Monroe, Michigan area (and possibly Toledo, Ohio) for many years. Thank you." Also the following may be of some help. http://www.rootsweb.com/~wioconto/lookupsarchives/LaRose.htm http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/mi/wayne/vitals/marriage/dbn-apr3-2003. txt has the marriage of: CHAMBERLAND,JOSEPH - CHAMBERLAND,LAROSE,JOSEPHINE - LAROSE,WAYNE,,19 FEB 1798,---,---,---, Also http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/mi/wayne/vitals/marriage/dbn-apr7-2003. txt has: LAROSE,MARIE - DEGUIRE~LAROSE,GOUYOU,JEAN BAPTISTE GOUYOU,WAYNE,,29 JAN 1720,---,---,---, LAROSE,HENRY - LAROSE,TRUDEL,MARY JOSEPH TRUDEL,WAYNE,,13 FEB 1804,---,---,---, LAROSE,JOSEPHINE - LAROSE,CHAMBERLAND,JOSEPH - CHAMBERLAND,WAYNE,,19 FEB 1798,---,---,---, I don't know if you have seen these or if they will help at all but the best to you! Larry Friend (Black Buffalo) friend@2z.net ============================================ -----Original Message----- From: Debbie Bert [mailto:debbiebert@ameritech.net] Sent: 20 October 2003 14:02 To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [NISHNAWBE] looking for Have you got any info from "French Families of the Detroit River Region, 1701-1936". THere is some info on Josette but not on her parents. Deb ************************************** Debbie Bert <debbiebert@ameritech.net> ************************************** What you accept, you teach. > -----Original Message----- > From: james mayberry [mailto:jmay330@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 1:51 PM > To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NISHNAWBE] looking for > > > looking for any info on a male larose who was married > to a native woman. the time period would be between > 1745 and 1775. not sure if they were from canada when > married but they were in detroit in 1770 for birth of > their daughter. daughters name was josephine(josette) > larose born 1770 in detroit, wayne, michigan. any help > appreciated. also i have the geneology on this line to > present. as to direct linage to my name now if anyone > has need of info. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Larry Friend (Black Buffalo) friend@2z.net EDUCA'TION, n. [L. educatio.] The bringing up, as of a child, instruction; formation of manners. Education comprehends all that series of instruction and discipline which is intended to enlighten the understanding, correct the temper, and form the manners and habits of youth, and fit them for usefulness in their future stations. To give children a good education in manners, arts and science, is important; to give them a religious education is indispensable; and an immense responsibility rests on parents and guardians who neglect these duties. (Webster's Dictionary 1828) ============================================ -----Original Message----- From: RoundSky@aol.com [mailto:RoundSky@aol.com] Sent: 15 October 2003 07:50 To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Forwarded message 2 Please reply to <pattc@usd.edu> I have been searching for school records for Rachel Frazier. She attended Genoa Indian School. I have found her sisters’ records, but have yet to find Rachel. Do you have any suggestions as to further resources. I have contacted the National Archives and the Smithsonian. I would like all of the attendance records for the time of the Genoa School’s existence. Thank you for any help or suggestions that you can give me. Maxine Johnson ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi everyone. I wanted all to know that this librarian at Muskegon Community College is planning in the Overbrook Theater a presentation on Oct 29 from 12:30 to 2 & October 30 from 7 to 8:30.... called Echoes of a Living Culture. She could NOT find any information about Indians in this area & is doing the display on some Indians that never lived in this area & has little to show. She would like to have someone call her at 231 7700493... & if you have any suggestions... I was thinking some people could display native american crafts in the hallway & artifacts...OF THIS AREA.... I mentioned that if Rosie Holmberg were still alive, she could help give her information of who was in this area & their life style. No one will lend her anything & not even the Muskegon County Museum. News from denise.... Sebequay@Aol.com

thx, but have that info............lol. was hoping to try new angle. trying to find anyone with info on a larose in detroit area between 1750 and 1770. i'm sure they had more than 1 child but not sure, since i can find no other info. i know the assembly of first nations has larose listed, but they cant give me any info. which is the same as the bureau of indian affairs. so am hoping someone has this info. waiting on the burton collection look up to get back to me. --- Debbie Bert <debbiebert@ameritech.net> wrote: > Have you got any info from "French Families of the > Detroit River Region, > 1701-1936". > THere is some info on Josette but not on her > parents. > Deb > > ************************************** > Debbie Bert <debbiebert@ameritech.net> > ************************************** > What you accept, you teach. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: james mayberry > [mailto:jmay330@sbcglobal.net] > > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 1:51 PM > > To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [NISHNAWBE] looking for > > > > > > looking for any info on a male larose who was > married > > to a native woman. the time period would be > between > > 1745 and 1775. not sure if they were from canada > when > > married but they were in detroit in 1770 for birth > of > > their daughter. daughters name was > josephine(josette) > > larose born 1770 in detroit, wayne, michigan. any > help > > appreciated. also i have the geneology on this > line to > > present. as to direct linage to my name now if > anyone > > has need of info. > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy > > records, go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Do you know the time period or have any other information? -----Original Message----- From: Louise [mailto:womanhawk3@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 3:14 PM To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Chief? Hello, I had read somewhere once that there was a Chief who was over three tribes down in the Grand River Band area? Does anyone have any knowledge of this? I believe it said he was over a Potawatomi, and Ojibwa and Ottawa Band at one time. Whether he was a Peace Chief or War Chief i have no idea................thankx Louise --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Karen, Yes the time line would be from late 1850's through 1880's he was a well known Chief, just can't find the site where i read about him. I shall keep digging as well, when i find him again, i shall put it on here to share..........Louise Kareen Lewis <klewis@lrboi.com> wrote:Do you know the time period or have any other information? -----Original Message----- From: Louise [mailto:womanhawk3@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 3:14 PM To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Chief? Hello, I had read somewhere once that there was a Chief who was over three tribes down in the Grand River Band area? Does anyone have any knowledge of this? I believe it said he was over a Potawatomi, and Ojibwa and Ottawa Band at one time. Whether he was a Peace Chief or War Chief i have no idea................thankx Louise --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search

Have you got any info from "French Families of the Detroit River Region, 1701-1936". THere is some info on Josette but not on her parents. Deb ************************************** Debbie Bert <debbiebert@ameritech.net> ************************************** What you accept, you teach. > -----Original Message----- > From: james mayberry [mailto:jmay330@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 1:51 PM > To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NISHNAWBE] looking for > > > looking for any info on a male larose who was married > to a native woman. the time period would be between > 1745 and 1775. not sure if they were from canada when > married but they were in detroit in 1770 for birth of > their daughter. daughters name was josephine(josette) > larose born 1770 in detroit, wayne, michigan. any help > appreciated. also i have the geneology on this line to > present. as to direct linage to my name now if anyone > has need of info. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

looking for any info on a male larose who was married to a native woman. the time period would be between 1745 and 1775. not sure if they were from canada when married but they were in detroit in 1770 for birth of their daughter. daughters name was josephine(josette) larose born 1770 in detroit, wayne, michigan. any help appreciated. also i have the geneology on this line to present. as to direct linage to my name now if anyone has need of info.

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Please reply to <pattc@usd.edu> I have been searching for school records for Rachel Frazier. She attended Genoa Indian School. I have found her sisters’ records, but have yet to find Rachel. Do you have any suggestions as to further resources. I have contacted the National Archives and the Smithsonian. I would like all of the attendance records for the time of the Genoa School’s existence. Thank you for any help or suggestions that you can give me. Maxine Johnson

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