1825 NC asn James Bass born I think in Yanceyville, Caswell Co. N.C. He married a Sarah/Sally unknown. 1855 OH Franklin Co. Fairfield James Bass & Sarah adn Celia born 1858 OH Franklin Co. Fairfield James Bass & Sarah asn Moses born 1860 OH Franklin Co. Fairfield James Bass & Sarah asn Samuel born 1860 Highland Co., OH Fairfield Township 6 July 1860 James Bass 35 Shoemaker NC Sarah 26 NC Ella 4 OH (could be Celia) Moses 2 OH Samuel 4/12 OH 1861 OH Franklin Co. Fairfield James Bass & Sarah asn James born 1865 OH Franklin Co. Fairfield James Bass & Sarah asn John born 1870 BASS JAMES Douglas County KS 255 Eudora Township. 237/241 Bass James 45 m farm laborer OH Celia 15 f keeping house OH Moses 12 m at home OH Samuel 10 m at home OH David 8 m OH John 3 m OH I have that Sarah died in Eudora of TB in 1870. I have found where James David, married and divorced in Kansas, lost track of him, his ex and the children after 1887. I do have John, my husband's grand father died in Oklahoma 1935 and also his sister there Celia in 1936. I did this year find Moses Bass who married Ambersilous Vaughn in Michigan. they had a son Elmer born 1880 in Cass Co. Michigan and a daughter Luelva b. 1884, they also had other children Frenchie who was murdered in 1916 not married and no children, and two other daughters who never married. Elmer is the only one who had children and one is still alive at 97. I do have papers that Luvela filled out on the Eastern Cherokee tribe saying that her grandfather James Bass 1825 North Carolina was full blood, but she was rejected. Also her mother Amba tried under Vaughn, and was rejected. I am just at a stand still, and am sure that the father James Bass and his son lived in Michigan also, but can not find anything on them, or also how to find out what tribe James came from or his wives last name. there is nothing on her in Kansas where she died, and not a stone for her grave. Lena

Lena I guess it works like most do. Put your family info out to the list with as much info as you can and if anyone can help, they surely will. Best of luck! Larry Friend (Black Buffalo) friend@2z.net EDUCA'TION, n. [L. educatio.] The bringing up, as of a child, instruction; formation of manners. Education comprehends all that series of instruction and discipline which is intended to enlighten the understanding, correct the temper, and form the manners and habits of youth, and fit them for usefulness in their future stations. To give children a good education in manners, arts and science, is important; to give them a religious education is indispensable; and an immense responsibility rests on parents and guardians who neglect these duties. (Webster's Dictionary 1828) ============================================ -----Original Message----- From: Lena [mailto:lena@valu-line.net] Sent: 02 November 2003 18:00 To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NISHNAWBE] new to list I am searching for ancestors in the Michigan and Ohio area, and am unsure on how this list works. I am on others though. I have seen them on the Eastern Band of Cherokee but they were rejected. they had filed while in Michigan. Lena ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Vern try this: http://www.genealogy.com/users/w/e/l/Terry-Weller/?Welcome=1067785557 Take care, Jim. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vern D. Weller" <vern@torchlake.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Mackinac Roots website > Missy, I do not know how you have your web page now set up, but the new link > you provided does not got to your web page. goes to a general family find > page with a notation that the web page requested is not found. When your are > cut and past you may be picking up more tha just the hyper link. Maybe you > should recheck. Dad > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Trashound@aol.com> > To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 9:18 AM > Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Mackinac Roots website > > > > <A HREF="http://www.genealogy.com/users/w/e/l/Terry-Weller/">Click here: > Genealogy.com: Mackinac Roots</A> > > > > Hi all - apparently there was some problem with the other link. Hopefully > > this one will work. I recently added an index to the baptisms for the St. > > Joseph Mission at Lapointe, WI. It spans the period from 1835 to 1851. I > hope > > this link works for you. Terry > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I am searching for ancestors in the Michigan and Ohio area, and am unsure on how this list works. I am on others though. I have seen them on the Eastern Band of Cherokee but they were rejected. they had filed while in Michigan. Lena

what am I doing wrong?I type "F" and nothing happens also how would I expand it to full screen? looking forward to ALL the information David Fournier >From: Trashound@aol.com >Reply-To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com >To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Mackinac Roots website >Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:18:36 EST > > <A HREF="http://www.genealogy.com/users/w/e/l/Terry-Weller/">Click here: >Genealogy.com: Mackinac Roots</A> > >Hi all - apparently there was some problem with the other link. Hopefully >this one will work. I recently added an index to the baptisms for the St. >Joseph Mission at Lapointe, WI. It spans the period from 1835 to 1851. I >hope >this link works for you. Terry > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca

Hi Here is the infor I have on Lepine not much but it might help. Descendants of Pierre Lepine Generation No. 1 1. PIERRE1 LEPINE He married FEMME DES CHRISTINAUX DES PAYS D'EN HAUT INDIENN. Child of PIERRE LEPINE and FEMME INDIENN is: 2. i. PIERRE2 LEPINE, b. Abt. 1745, St-Joachim de Chateauguay, QC CAN. Generation No. 2 2. PIERRE2 LEPINE (PIERRE1) was born Abt. 1745 in St-Joachim de Chateauguay, QC CAN. He married (1) FRANCOISE. He married (2) MARGUERITE TEION8ERTSIANRIHTA August 31, 1802 in Oka, QC CAN (verified). She was born Abt. 1779 in Iroquois of OKa, and died September 20, 1826 in Oka, Deux Montagnes QC CAN (verified). Notes for PIERRE LEPINE: I find a Pierre L'Epigne with the Mackinac Company for the year 1808, and was assigned to be at Mississipi. Also 1809 Pierre Lepine, Mackinac Co., assigned to be at Rivier St. Peters Also 1809 Louis L'Epigne, Michilimackinac Co. assigned to be at Mississipi Also 1810 Pierre Lepine, employed by James Aird, assigned to Mississipi Also 1810 Louis L'Epaine, employed by Joseph Rollette, assigned to Mississipi Also 1811 Louis L'Epigne, employed by joseph Rolette, assigned to Mississippi Also 1811 Pierre Lepine, employed by Joseph Rolette, assigned to Prairie Source: Michigan Voyageurs from the Notary Book of Samuel Abbott, Mackinac Island, 1807-1817. year 1802 12After the publication of one ban and the dispensation of the other two, marriage Pierre Lepine voyageur adult son of Pierre Lepine, farmer of St. Cuthbert, who gives his consent and Marguerite Teion8entsiarihta, Iroquois of this mission. Present: Igance Sahanentien and Francois Ron8ahninon and Charles Tentatirhon. More About PIERRE LEPINE: Bapt God Father: Jean-Baptiste Bourcier Bapt God Mother: Marguerite Gagne Baptism: September 08, 1750, St-Joachim de Chateauguay, Sault Sault St-Louis, QC CAN Child of PIERRE LEPINE and FRANCOISE is: 3. i. LOUIS BERARD3 LEPINE, b. November 24, 1787, Ile-Dupas, QC CAN. Child of PIERRE LEPINE and MARGUERITE TEION8ERTSIANRIHTA is: 4. ii. PIERRE DIT BERARD3 LEPINE, b. May 24, 1783, Ile-Dupas, QC CAN. Generation No. 3 3. LOUIS BERARD3 LEPINE (PIERRE2, PIERRE1) was born November 24, 1787 in Ile-Dupas, QC CAN. He married LISETTE MILAKIBI. More About LOUIS BERARD LEPINE: Burial: Lafontaine, QC CAN Child of LOUIS LEPINE and LISETTE MILAKIBI is: i. DAUGHTER4 LEPINE. 4. PIERRE DIT BERARD3 LEPINE (PIERRE2, PIERRE1) was born May 24, 1783 in Ile-Dupas, QC CAN. He married ANGELIQUE MARIE CADOTTE. Children of PIERRE LEPINE and ANGELIQUE CADOTTE are: i. DAUGHTER4 LEPINE. ii. DAUGHER LEPINE. Regards Aline ----- Original Message ----- From: <dude@beanstalk.net> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 11:50 AM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Lisette Milabiki > looking for Lisette Milabiki who married(or not) Louis Lepine abt 1825 had 2 daughters Franciose,1825 and one that maybe died on Drummond Island. Franciose went to Pentang with Louis but nothing about Lisette. Her last name has probably been re-spelled. ANY information would be helpful. She might be buried at ST.Croix Catholic Church in La Fontaine, maybe > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

looking for Lisette Milabiki who married(or not) Louis Lepine abt 1825 had 2 daughters Franciose,1825 and one that maybe died on Drummond Island. Franciose went to Pentang with Louis but nothing about Lisette. Her last name has probably been re-spelled. ANY information would be helpful. She might be buried at ST.Croix Catholic Church in La Fontaine, maybe

Missy, I do not know how you have your web page now set up, but the new link you provided does not got to your web page. goes to a general family find page with a notation that the web page requested is not found. When your are cut and past you may be picking up more tha just the hyper link. Maybe you should recheck. Dad ----- Original Message ----- From: <Trashound@aol.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 9:18 AM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Mackinac Roots website > <A HREF="http://www.genealogy.com/users/w/e/l/Terry-Weller/">Click here: Genealogy.com: Mackinac Roots</A> > > Hi all - apparently there was some problem with the other link. Hopefully > this one will work. I recently added an index to the baptisms for the St. > Joseph Mission at Lapointe, WI. It spans the period from 1835 to 1851. I hope > this link works for you. Terry > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

<A HREF="http://www.genealogy.com/users/w/e/l/Terry-Weller/">Click here: Genealogy.com: Mackinac Roots</A> Hi all - apparently there was some problem with the other link. Hopefully this one will work. I recently added an index to the baptisms for the St. Joseph Mission at Lapointe, WI. It spans the period from 1835 to 1851. I hope this link works for you. Terry

Missy, clicked on your link below this am and got "page not found" Dad ----- Original Message ----- From: <Trashound@aol.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 10:30 PM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Mackinac Roots Website > Hi all - just wanted to share the address for my website on Genealogy.com. I > recently added an index of the St. Joseph Mission baptisms at Lapointe, > Wisconsin. The index was generated from the published baptisms printed in Lost in > Canada and spans the years 1835 to early 1851. This file is around 30 pps and > takes some time to load, so please be patient! Hope it helps you. Terry > Weller > > <A HREF="http://www.genealogy.com/users/w/e/l/Terry-Weller/">Genealogy.com: Mackinac Roots</A> > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Terry Thank you! He has been the center of a lot of great reading and controversy! I have to laugh as I write this. Old Wrinkled Meat, Kahbe nagwi wens, or the Anglicized version John Smith either lived for over 130 years or had a skin problem that wrinkled him prematurely and he lived well beyond average. The best source I have on Kahbe nagwi wens is "Kahbe nagwi wens, The man who lived in 3 centuries" by Carl A. Zpaffe. While it does not have an ISBN number it can be purchased directly from: Historic Heartland Association, Brainerd, MN 56401 Paul Buffalo has a page dedicated to Kahbe nagwi wens at http://www.d.umn.edu/cla/faculty/troufs/Buffalo/PB41.html . A search of http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en for "Historic Heartland Association" will also give you some more good reading. An argument used to counter the idea that Kahbe nagwi wens was 138 years of age, when he died on February 7, 1922, was that he was once interviewed and spoke of the great number of shooting stars he remembers when he was about 8 years old. However! Tecumseh '(Panther) Flying Across', died in 1813 and my old memory says that there was a great number of shooting stars in his time as well as the night of his birth. I loaned that book out and cannot verify what I say here. But I also know that some dust trails collide with Earth's path at regular intervals and there were no city light or pollution to block the view back then. If he lived to 138 years, he was born 1784. It's odd to think that George Washington died on December 14, 1799. Kahbe nagwi wens claimed to have fought in the War of 1812. He was the son of Kechi Way mitig ozhe, a very renowned chief. One of his uncles, Majigabo, met Schoolcraft in 1832. Two half-brothers were Wa-bo-se and Mitig gwan kik ens (Drum Beater Jr.) Kahbe nagwi wens was intertwined with so many great names and in his old age enjoyed life. He was living history, a colorful character and lived a very full life to the end. Someone to be proud to even read about! Larry Friend (Black Buffalo) friend@2z.net EDUCA'TION, n. [L. educatio.] The bringing up, as of a child, instruction; formation of manners. Education comprehends all that series of instruction and discipline which is intended to enlighten the understanding, correct the temper, and form the manners and habits of youth, and fit them for usefulness in their future stations. To give children a good education in manners, arts and science, is important; to give them a religious education is indispensable; and an immense responsibility rests on parents and guardians who neglect these duties. (Webster's Dictionary 1828) ============================================ -----Original Message----- From: Trashound@aol.com [mailto:Trashound@aol.com] Sent: 01 November 2003 22:10 To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Mackinac Roots Website Actually, I should have updated that! Thanks to Larry in Minnesota he told me his name was, and I guess this is for real, Chief Wrinkled Meat. I guess he was quite a character in Northern MN in the early part of the 20th C. Thanks! Terry ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Actually, I should have updated that! Thanks to Larry in Minnesota he told me his name was, and I guess this is for real, Chief Wrinkled Meat. I guess he was quite a character in Northern MN in the early part of the 20th C. Thanks! Terry

Terry, You mention a 136 year old Chippewa named Ka-be-nah-gwey-wence in the Family Photo section of your Mackinac Roots web-site, which, by the way, is a great site. You asked if anyone could identify him. I do not know who he is, but his photograph appears on page 86 of a book entitled "Native Americans in Early Photographs" by Tom Robotham. The book was originally published in 1994 and republished in 2003. The following is the description that accompanies the photo: Very Old Chippewa Man in Traditional Costume, n.d. (I assume this means "not dated") From Fred R. Meyer Collection National Museum of the American Indian, Smithsonian Institution Maybe this lead will provide you with a starting point for your search to find out who he was. Please let me know if you discover his identity, especially if he is from Minnesota or upper Wisconsin. My paternal family line runs from France to Quebec, then Ontario, Canada and proceeded over the course of years into Michigan, Wisconsin and Minnesota. Good luck in your investigation! Michael Drouillard 562-428-2635

Hi all - just wanted to share the address for my website on Genealogy.com. I recently added an index of the St. Joseph Mission baptisms at Lapointe, Wisconsin. The index was generated from the published baptisms printed in Lost in Canada and spans the years 1835 to early 1851. This file is around 30 pps and takes some time to load, so please be patient! Hope it helps you. Terry Weller <A HREF="http://www.genealogy.com/users/w/e/l/Terry-Weller/">Genealogy.com: Mackinac Roots</A>

The Drouin marriage records are for Quebec only and summarize the Catholic records of the province. They go to the beginning of the parishes as early as the 1620s or so. I would imagine not all the parishes are included but what is missing - I do not know. Type in Drouin marriages in your keyword space for more information. I think the PRDH is more complete. You can get an inexpensive membership to the PRDH - again use your browser for more information. The difference between the 2 is Drouin has records up to the 20th c. and the PRDH is only thru 1799. Good luck searching! Terry

okay how far back do these marrage books go.............and how can i find out any info from them. i'm not in michigan. thx jim --- Trashound@aol.com wrote: > Jan - I am wondering if you are referring to the 3 > volume Drouin Marriage > books, of which the third volume has biographies? I > understand that has been > expanded now and the new set is blue. However, the > State of Michigan library has > the red set. I call those the "Red Books", too. > Terry > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Jan - I am wondering if you are referring to the 3 volume Drouin Marriage books, of which the third volume has biographies? I understand that has been expanded now and the new set is blue. However, the State of Michigan library has the red set. I call those the "Red Books", too. Terry

Hi All Jan asked me a very good question and I thought I should pass along my answer since I should have explained the breakdown of the Dictionary more fully. One of the projects I have been working on is a collection of Native and Fur Trade biographies and the availability of the on-line dictionary has made this project a lot easier. The HBC Reunion in 2005 will be in Winnipeg and I rather hope that U of T or the Manitoba Archives will publish a book of biographies for those connected with the Fur trade which should include those that worked for the NWC, HBC, the assortment of other fur trade companies and the native population. The Dictionary has hundreds of bios that would be appropriate and I believe there would be market for such a publication particularly with the growing interest in history and genealogy. Have a great weekend. Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: Stanley Hulme To: Nimrodkiss@aol.com Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 12:50 PM Subject: Re: Nishnawbe info Hi Jan The Dictionary of Canadian Biography is a completely separate publication by the University of Toronto. If you ask at the library I am sure they will have the set in their reference section. U of T has been publishing the volumes since the mid 80s and 13 to 15 have only come out in the past year or two. I have not got 13 to 15 as they are biographies on people since 1900 and my interest is pre 1900 so I stopped buying them at volume 12. There are also two Index volumes - the original was an Index for Volumes 1 to 4 (years 1000 to 1800) and the next was for Volume 1 to 12 (1000 to 1900). In the back of each volume there is a breakdown of the people whose biographies are published in the volume - the breakdown is by profession and they list "Native peoples" and "Fur trade" as separate categories so you can quickly see whose bios have been published in the book. Hope this helps. Take care Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: Nimrodkiss@aol.com To: nanitort@shaw.ca Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 10:24 PM Subject: Nishnawbe info Hi Stan I got the website up for the Dictionary's. Thanks for putting out the info on them. I think they are the ones commonly called the Red Books? Am I right? If so my Gouin name was not listed at all. When I went to the library in Windsor and checked the Red Books they were there. I am wonder if some names were missed. Just wondering if I am remembering the right books. Thanks Jan Gouin

Hi All Further to my last message. If you cut and paste anything out of the biographies in the Dictionary make sure you go through the pasted version to make sure quotation marks and dashes come out correctly. I have found that quotation marks " " are pasted as a line I and dashes - are also pasted as a line I . Maybe it is my machine but it is worth checking. Take care Stan

Hi All For those that are interested in biographies, The Dictionary of Canadian Biography is now online. I am not sure how many of the 15 volumes are available as I have not tried that many searches yet but I know Volume 10 is there and it appears to be complete. For those who have not used the Dictionary it is a priceless source of biographies for furtraders, natives etc. The volumes normally sell for over $100 each and most major libraries in Canada only have them as reference books so you can't take them out. The published Volumes are broken down as follows: Volume 1 1000-1700 Volume 2 1701-1740 Volume 3 1741-1770 Volume 4 1771-1800 Volume 5 1801-1820 Volume 6 1821-1835 Volume 7 1836-1850 Volume 8 1851-1860 Volume 9 1861-1870 Volume 10 1871-1880 Volume 11 1881-1890 Volume 12 1891-1900 Volume 13 to 15 1900+ The Dictionary can be found at http://www.biographi.ca/EN/index.html and it is searchable alphabetically. Enjoy Take care Stan