I am connected to this Pelletier family and have much info. JoAnn > From: Trashound@aol.com > Reply-To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:09:29 EST > To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] looking for info > Resent-From: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:09:37 -0700 > > Jim - your entry says: Nicolas Pelletier husband of Madeleine Tegoussi (widow > of Auguste Savage) and of an Indian woman, Marie, daughter of grand chief > Jean Baptiste Nanabesa > > Good luck in your search! Terry > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Jan, I notice that you have a Walker in your listed surnames. How much information do you have on that line. That is also a line that I am researching and believe it to be Ojibwe. Wanda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Winner" <jebeau62@webtv.net> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Story Telling > jan, > what was the name of your grandfather ? > > searching--Acker-Acre-Boyer-Campau-Cicotte-Curran-Hunt-Lynch-Ouaouagoukoue-O uaouabouigne-Stafford-Soulliere-Suliere-Walker-Tardiff. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Yes, but it doesn't ship until March; the movie review / explanation is on the www.abc.com site under movies.

-------Original Message------- From: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 12:29:44 To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Story Telling jan, what was the name of your grandfather ? searching--Acker-Acre-Boyer-Campau-Cicotte-Curran-Hunt-Lynch-Ouaouagoukoue-Ou ouabouigne-Stafford-Soulliere-Suliere-Walker-Tardiff. there are a few of your names here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chandonai/

At the risk of adding one too many messages about the show, the following website is extremely detailed and offers teaching resources and analysis of the stories: http://abc.go.com/movies/dreamkeeper/

jan, what was the name of your grandfather ? searching--Acker-Acre-Boyer-Campau-Cicotte-Curran-Hunt-Lynch-Ouaouagoukoue-Ouaouabouigne-Stafford-Soulliere-Suliere-Walker-Tardiff.

The movie had a plot to start off. Grandfather was a Story Teller from Pine Ridge, Lakota. Had been wounded in WW 2 was 87 years old. Had a troubled grandson who was being hounded by the local Rez "gangbangers" for money owed. Grandson is talked into taking his grandfather to a Pow Wow 600 miles away. In return Grandson gets Grandpa's 1966 truck beater. Grandfather starts his story telling, shows diversity among various indian people stories. Tribes from the east Mohawks or the confederation, along with the Algonquin speaking tribes, one from the North west and the Plains indians, various time frames from 1600 to about 1830. My grandmother was a story teller (Clan mother type) so I can relate. The plot thickens when Grandpa takes grandson to meet grandsons estranged recovering Alcoholic father . Thinking most of the time grandson is going to Pow Wow meets a father he hates. Grandpa dies in night, father and son reunite, grandson goes to Pow wow riding Grandpa's horse. Estranged father takes grandpa back to Pine Ridge. Grandson follows in Grandpa's tradition and becomes story teller. Everyone lives happily ever-after?! Bottom line it depicts indian people as bright caring people (not white man's savage) and shows factual tradition. How about them apples Crudgemudgen? Earl (runs with dogs)

Dear Curmudgeon: You were over-reacting about fifty messages. Actually, there were only 41 Dreamcatcher messages yesterday, which is about the same number of messages received from December 16 - 23, and well over the usual 5 message daily average and even more than the ones I received offering me millions of dollars held in Nigeria or suggesting how I might proudly alter my body parts. Perhaps Nishnawbe's list has become crossed with the Dreamcatcher fan club list or something. I caught my own dream last night that all this was just a dream and the list had gone back to normal, whatever that is. Best regards and happy new year, anyone, and excuse me if this note is #42 in your inbox. Rarihokwats jsfrmr wrote: >I received possibly fifty posts about this film in the last 24 hours, yet no >one bothered to summarize it. I didn't see the film. Can someone please post >a capsule description or review for the archive's sake, if not mine? > >Also, many posts were repeats, thank yous, and monosyllabic replies. Can we >please try to condense content and thank people off-list when appropriate? > >Your friendly neighborhood curmudgeon, >Jeff > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

I received possibly fifty posts about this film in the last 24 hours, yet no one bothered to summarize it. I didn't see the film. Can someone please post a capsule description or review for the archive's sake, if not mine? Also, many posts were repeats, thank yous, and monosyllabic replies. Can we please try to condense content and thank people off-list when appropriate? Your friendly neighborhood curmudgeon, Jeff

Hi All Thought this would be of particular interest to some. List of Sioux Indian Prisoners Confined at Camp Kearney, Daveport, Iowa, January 20, 1866. Imprisoned after the Sioux Uprising in Minnesota, 1862. List has number, name, age, term of imprisonment, expired. http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/kearney/index.htm Antoine Provencalle is number 171. Louie La Belle is number 177. Ages of those to be hung range from 15 to 72. Larry Friend (Black Buffalo) friend@2z.net

Jan - I'm with you! I've thought about that before. How my grand parents were born in the teens, they're all gone now. From cars to computers to space exploration and the man on the moon! I will never forget that moment for as long as I live! A final thought - what was wrong with only 3 networks? Some of the good shows from my childhood was the Twilight Zone, I Dream of Genie and I loved the Ghost and Mrs. Muir (I thougth of that cuz Mrs. Muir just died) Remember Dark Shadows? Too funny. Couldnt wait to get home from school to see that. The Monkees and Laugh In, the Smother Brothers, Walt Disney, etc. My greatest fantasy was to be Diana Ross cuz she had gorgeous hair and gorgeous clothes! Remember how beautiful and graceful Peggy Fleming was?! I dont even watch TV anymore (except HGTV or PBS/Discovery) because its predictable, silly or just plain stupid or vulgar. I cant imagine what will be on in another 10 years. I guess we'll have something to say when we get older - Rob and Laura didnt even get to sleep in the same bed! LOL! Happy New Year every one! Happy researching, Terry

Larry... Dont think its the same Dreamcatcher... Cora ========Original Message======== Subj: RE: [NISHNAWBE] DREAMCATCHER...Did you see it on tv? Date: 12/30/2003 12:51:44 PM Pacific Standard Time From: friend@2z.net Reply-to: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) Spiritdove I missed it! But immediately searched and found I can buy on it DVD for for $19.95 directly from Wrner Bros. http://store.warnervideo.com/whv.product.asp?upc=085392466429 Sure wish I had seen it but I don't watch enough TV to have known it was going to be on. Larry Friend (Black Buffalo) friend @2z.net ==================================================== -----Original Message----- From: Spiritdove [mailto:imburgia@whidbey.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 1:11 PM To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NISHNAWBE] DREAMCATCHER...Did you see it on tv? We watched both episodes... last night and the night before. That movie was so good...we wanted it to continue! It was full of fact mixed with ancestral stories done in kind of a fantasy way. It was special effects and down to earth realism! All combined to make a truly real and heartfelt expression of Indian ways. Several tribes were represented in the filming. Lots of familiar faces. Indian humor and spirituality. We wanted it to go on and on. Would love to see it on a big screen! It was truly MAGNIFICENT! Spiritdove and Hubby ~v~ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

In a message dated 12/30/2003 5:35:05 PM Central Standard Time, NISHNAWBE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: I missed it! But immediately searched and found I can buy on it DVD for for $19.95 directly from Wrner Bros. The movie was fantastic. I watched with my grandchildren, who usually head to the game room when I watch a western. : ) They sat and were really interested in the whole movie. I did check and it will be at the video stores soon, I think they said they would have it in the first part of next month. They certainly left it open for a part II, which I hope the do. Joyce W.

http://abc.go.com/movies/dreamkeeper/index.html CHECK OUT THE SITE! on 12/30/03 6:28 PM, Lovableme1@aol.com at Lovableme1@aol.com wrote: > Larry... > > Dont think its the same Dreamcatcher... > > Cora > > ========Original Message======== > Subj: RE: [NISHNAWBE] DREAMCATCHER...Did you see it on tv? > Date: 12/30/2003 12:51:44 PM Pacific Standard Time > From: friend@2z.net > Reply-to: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com > To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent from the Internet (Details) > > > > Spiritdove > > I missed it! But immediately searched and found I can buy on it DVD for for > $19.95 directly from Wrner Bros. > http://store.warnervideo.com/whv.product.asp?upc=085392466429 > > Sure wish I had seen it but I don't watch enough TV to have known it was > going to be on. > > Larry Friend (Black Buffalo) > friend @2z.net > > ==================================================== > > -----Original Message----- > From: Spiritdove [mailto:imburgia@whidbey.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 1:11 PM > To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NISHNAWBE] DREAMCATCHER...Did you see it on tv? > > > We watched both episodes... last night and the night before. That movie was > so good...we wanted it to continue! It was full of fact mixed with ancestral > stories done in kind of a fantasy way. It was special effects and down to > earth realism! All combined to make a truly real and heartfelt expression of > Indian ways. Several tribes were represented in the filming. Lots of > familiar faces. Indian humor and spirituality. We wanted it to go on and > on. Would love to see it on a big screen! It was truly MAGNIFICENT! > > Spiritdove and Hubby ~v~ > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Heres the site; http://abc.go.com/movies/dreamkeeper/index.html Amazon.com has the CD for $13.00! Spiritdove ~v~ on 12/30/03 6:12 PM, Goatcreekm@aol.com at Goatcreekm@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/30/2003 5:35:05 PM Central Standard Time, > NISHNAWBE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > I missed it! But immediately searched and found I can buy on it DVD for for > $19.95 directly from Wrner Bros. > The movie was fantastic. I watched with my grandchildren, who usually head > to the game room when I watch a western. : ) They sat and were really > interested in the whole movie. I did check and it will be at the video stores > soon, > I think they said they would have it in the first part of next month. They > certainly left it open for a part II, which I hope the do. > Joyce W. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I will go there one day...Creator Willing! Spiritdove ~v~ on 12/30/03 5:48 PM, Pete & Teri at 4windsnm@gilanet.com wrote: > Boozhoo, > > The Gathering of Nations Pow-Wow they were going to in the movie is an > actual event down here in Albuquerque. This year the dates are > April 22-24, 2004 > ...The movie showed the pow-wow outdoors but it's actually indoors. The > vendors here have every conceivable thing Native & are set up around the top > of the Pit & out doors. It's a 3 day event...the last 2 dedicated to the > dancers, give aways & the awesome guest drummers from around the US & at > times Canada. > It's an All Nations gathering & wonderful. It's held in the UNM Pit..where > the basketball games are played. The Pit has an arena similar in style to > the old ancient Roman Coliseum. No matter where you sit you can see & the > dancers come by the 500's..almost a thousand on the floor for Grand Entry..I > cry everytime I see it which is every year..the colors dazzle, when they > dance it's like looking at a kaleidoscope... > Everything Native..foods, clothing, music, School grants info centers, > medical info..the new Native musicians, actors at times appear too for > autographs, you name it. Should anyone wish to experience an amazing > site....this is it. My husband says now he knows how Custer felt (he's > Scottish) but Indian at heart now, surrounded by soooo many traditional > peoples...I'm a Chicago transplant & miss the U.P. areas of my families, but > this makes it all worth living down here in the high desert. > This is the site you can go to for info... > www.gatheringofnations.com > > Baamaapii. > teri b > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <NISHNAWBE-D-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <NISHNAWBE-D@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 4:34 PM > Subject: NISHNAWBE-D Digest V03 #247 > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Howdy Everyone If you are old enough (like me) just sit a minute and think about all the changes our grandparents have gone through. My grandfather was raised before cars. At age 8 he quit school (being the oldest) and worked at a lumber camp in Cheboygan, Michigan area. He drove teams of horses and peeled bark off the tree's that they had cut down. Just look at one of your grandchildren at age 8 and think of his poor little fingers. Later he worked in a pit sawing logs. He later worked in the Tannery for 25 years (tanning hides) and they closed up, no pension, nothing. But he told me he learned many things, so it was all right. He made friends with many of the men who were from other countries and he learned their language. He learned other things from having so many friends. There first TV had one channel which usually had cartoons on it. Before he died they had a man on the moon. So many changes but if we don't take the time to remember them and tell our children then yes it will all be lost. I am trying to make a file for everyone in our family and makes notes on things that they did or what happened to them during their lives. Jan Gouin Yes, I too watched Dreamkeeper. I enjoyed it greatly. It made me sad to think that my ancestors were unable to tell me stories handed down from generation to generation the way they were done in the years past. Too much white blood over the years has made it impossible to connect with the spirits of old. I have attempted to tell my grandchildren of their past but it is all from researching and not from actual accounts of my forefathers even though it is not too far back. I would recommend anyone watching this if they have the opportunity again......redtailchickenhawk......

on 12/30/03 3:55 PM, Spiritdove at imburgia@whidbey.com wrote: > DREAMKEEPER. YEP! You got it right! We even switched to channel 9 for a > history lesson on the early Indians during commercials! It was a good night! > > Spiritdove ~v~ > http://abc.go.com/movies/dreamkeeper/index.html CHECK IT OUT!!!

on 12/30/03 3:49 PM, Spiritdove at imburgia@whidbey.com wrote: > Sorry...I meant the movie DREAMKEEPER! > > Spiritdove ~v~ > http://abc.go.com/movies/dreamkeeper/index.html CHECK IT OUT!!!

on 12/30/03 3:48 PM, Spiritdove at imburgia@whidbey.com wrote: > So Sorry...I meant the movie DREAMKEEPER! > > Spiritdove ~v~ http://abc.go.com/movies/dreamkeeper/index.html CHECK IT OUT!!!