Hi Jan Would the Campau family that you mention be the Detroit Campau, whose daughter Catherine married Jean Baptiste Couture? ----- Original Message ----- From: <Nimrodkiss@aol.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Story Telling > Howdy > I have not worked much on this area. I have JB Beaugrand married > Genevieve Houde with one son JB married to Madeleine Branconnier. I have one daughter > for them Angeline born 1842 at St Felix de Valois. Angeline married Sulpice > Godin. Sorry no dates. > Jan Gouin > > > jan, my line is jean bte beaugrand b 1672 d 1730 married to francoise > guignard b 1680, jean bte beaugrand was married to a catherine > hore-houray in 1717 . another marrage for jean bte beaugrand was m coutu > in 1726 three children born. > > searching--Acker-Acre-Boyer-Campau-Cicotte-Curran-Hunt-Lynch-Ouaouagoukoue-O ua > ouabouigne-Stafford-Soulliere-Suliere-Walker-Tardiff. > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Howdy I have not worked much on this area. I have JB Beaugrand married Genevieve Houde with one son JB married to Madeleine Branconnier. I have one daughter for them Angeline born 1842 at St Felix de Valois. Angeline married Sulpice Godin. Sorry no dates. Jan Gouin jan, my line is jean bte beaugrand b 1672 d 1730 married to francoise guignard b 1680, jean bte beaugrand was married to a catherine hore-houray in 1717 . another marrage for jean bte beaugrand was m coutu in 1726 three children born. searching--Acker-Acre-Boyer-Campau-Cicotte-Curran-Hunt-Lynch-Ouaouagoukoue-Oua ouabouigne-Stafford-Soulliere-Suliere-Walker-Tardiff.

Howdy I only have info on Genevieve Boucher who married Etienne Louis Gilbert. Genevieve Boucher born Sept 13, 1726 at Ille Dupas married Etienne Louis Gilbert born Nov 24, 1730 Ille Dupas. married at Berthier Sept 20, 1756 son Francois born Aug 28, 1755 married Therese Coutu (1760) on Aug 6, 1787 at Berthier daughter Therese born 1796 married to Basile LaPrade dit Regeas on Nov 23, 1812 at Berthier, Que. daughter Louise born 1822 married Jean Baptiste Gouin on Feb 26, 1843 at St Gabriel De Brandon, Quebec Hope this helps some. Jan Gouin jan gouin, i have a marie madeline boucher b ? married to a pierre desrosier la franiere, no dates, marie has a sister marie genevieve b 1726 married to louis gilbert no dates, their was also a bro joseph , no dates, the parents of the three children are francois boucher b abt 1688 married in 1712 to genevieve joly -delbec, b 1693. same family ? searching--Acker-Acre-Boyer-Campau-Cicotte-Curran-Hunt-Lynch-Ouaouagoukoue-Oua ouabouigne-Stafford-Soulliere-Suliere-Walker-Tardiff.

jan, my line is jean bte beaugrand b 1672 d 1730 married to francoise guignard b 1680, jean bte beaugrand was married to a catherine hore-houray in 1717 . another marrage for jean bte beaugrand was m coutu in 1726 three children born. searching--Acker-Acre-Boyer-Campau-Cicotte-Curran-Hunt-Lynch-Ouaouagoukoue-Ouaouabouigne-Stafford-Soulliere-Suliere-Walker-Tardiff.

jan gouin, i have a marie madeline boucher b ? married to a pierre desrosier la franiere, no dates, marie has a sister marie genevieve b 1726 married to louis gilbert no dates, their was also a bro joseph , no dates, the parents of the three children are francois boucher b abt 1688 married in 1712 to genevieve joly -delbec, b 1693. same family ? searching--Acker-Acre-Boyer-Campau-Cicotte-Curran-Hunt-Lynch-Ouaouagoukoue-Ouaouabouigne-Stafford-Soulliere-Suliere-Walker-Tardiff.

Hello Denise! Yes, Very long time no hear from!! ..... I am still here and still working on all my various lines.....I keep an eye on the Nishnawbe list and now after the holiday rush maybe I can get back in the game again. I have been told that the Rix Robinson and the Francis Robinson lines are two different lines and they may have been originally. Since then I have heard that the two Robinson families have visited back and forth in the various areas where they both lived so I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they were intermarried at some point. How about it gang? Anyone hear of any connections?? Re the Blackbird line....I did work on that and found the Blackbirds/Isaacs were married in with my Lambert line. What was your question on that line in respect to your line?? Talk to you soon BettyK ><>><><><>><><>< ----- Original Message ----- From: <Sebequay@aol.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 11:49 PM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Robinson lineage ? Chief Blackbird.. > Hi Betty. Long time no hear from. How do you connect my Robinsons with yours again!? Rix Robinson & my dad's mom was Edna Pearl Robinson whose dad was MAC or Daniel E. Robinson whose dad was Stephen Robinson whose dad was EDward Robinson whose dad was Edward Sr. Robinson married to Eunice Rix...etc... PS did you ever find out the correct lineage from Chief Blackbird in Cross Village... thanks from Sebequay@Aol.com > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > _____________________________________________________ > This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm >

Hi Betty. Long time no hear from. How do you connect my Robinsons with yours again!? Rix Robinson & my dad's mom was Edna Pearl Robinson whose dad was MAC or Daniel E. Robinson whose dad was Stephen Robinson whose dad was EDward Robinson whose dad was Edward Sr. Robinson married to Eunice Rix...etc... PS did you ever find out the correct lineage from Chief Blackbird in Cross Village... thanks from Sebequay@Aol.com

Michigan I believe Joyce. At least there is an Otsego County here in Michigan. Nanc > > Ostego Co. What state? > Joyce

HI Nancy and all, This is what I have on my Robinson Line......does anyone connect?? Always happy to meet other relatives to compare notes. BettyK, Menogeshickquay, Good Sky Woman ><><><><><>><>> Descendants of Francis Sr Robinson Generation No. 1 1. Francis Sr3 Robinson (Louis Joseph2, Jacques1 Robertson) was born November 04, 1797 in Berthier-en-Haut, Quebec, Canada, and died August 04, 1867 in Moran Township, Makcinac Co., MI. He married Josette Jacob Chibayabos September 11, 1826 in Mackinac Co., St. Ignace, MI, daughter of Leaving Phantom Che-by-aw-boas. She was born 1808, and died 1848 in St Ignace, MI. Children of Francis Robinson and Josette Chibayabos are: + 2 i. Louis Sr4 Robinson, born Abt. 1824; died in St. Ignace, Mackinac County, MI. 3 ii. Joseph Robinson, born 1828. 4 iii. Francis Jr Robinson, born June 25, 1829 in St. Ignace, MI; died August 04, 1867 in St. Ignace, MI, Mackinac County, Michigan. He married Elizabeth LaLond 1864 in St. Ignace, MI, Mackinac County, Michigan. 5 iv. Sophia Robinson, born 1832. 6 v. Madeline Robinson, born 1833 in Pt. St. Ignace, MI; died January 22, 1918. She married George Vincent Bourassa September 11, 1854 in Mackinac County, MI; born 1831 in Pt. St. Ignace, Mackinac County, MI; died in Mackinac County, MI. 7 vi. Matthias Robinson, born March 22, 1836 in St. Ignace, MI, Mackinac County, Michigan; died March 19, 1847 in St. Ignace, MI, Mackinac County, Michigan. + 8 vii. Margareth Robinson, born 1838 in St. Ignace, MI, Mackinac County, Michigan; died August 03, 1919 in St. Ignace, MI. + 9 viii. Angeline 'Maggie' Robinson, born October 1841 in St. Ignace, MI; died September 25, 1900 in St. Ignace, Mackinac Co., MI. 10 ix. Josette Robinson, born July 12, 1843 in Mackinac County, St. Ignace, MI; died March 13, 1848 in Mackinac County, St. Ignace, MI. 11 x. David Robinson, born February 22, 1846 in Mackinac County, St. Ignace, MI; died Abt. 1930 in St. Ignace, MI, Mackinac County, Michigan. Generation No. 2 2. Louis Sr4 Robinson (Francis Sr3, Louis Joseph2, Jacques1 Robertson) was born Abt. 1824, and died in St. Ignace, Mackinac County, MI. He married Emma/Armine Pausgan?/Paquin? September 26, 1849. She was born Abt. 1827 in Canada. Children of Louis Robinson and Emma/Armine Pausgan?/Paquin? are: 12 i. Louis Jr5 Robinson, born Abt. 1853. 13 ii. Louise Robinson, born July 15, 1854; died June 03, 1935 in Cross Village, Emmet County, MI. She married Louis Lasley April 18, 1871 in Emmet County, MI; born July 13, 1854; died June 24, 1918 in Cross Village, Emmet County, MI. 14 iii. Amos Robinson, born September 1860 in MI; died August 30, 1902. He married Jane St. Onge 1884 in Mackinac County, MI; born Abt. 1866; died November 05, 1945. 15 iv. Jane Robinson, born Abt. 1863. She married // MacFarland. 16 v. Joe Robinson, born Abt. 1864. 17 vi. Isadore Robinson, born Abt. 1866. 18 vii. John Robinson, born Abt. 1868; died June 03, 1874 in St. Ignace, Mackinac County, MI. 19 viii. Mary Robinson, born Abt. 1869. She married Antoine Jr Ance/Anse/Scabawash; born Abt. 1865 in St. Ignace, Mackinac County, MI; died March 23, 1941 in St. Ignace, Mackinac County, MI. 8. Margareth4 Robinson (Francis Sr3, Louis Joseph2, Jacques1 Robertson) was born 1838 in St. Ignace, MI, Mackinac County, Michigan, and died August 03, 1919 in St. Ignace, MI. She married Louis Lajoice,Jr. January 27, 1857 in St. Ignace, Mackinaw County, MI, son of Louis Lajoice and Mary Lavake/Livique/Leveque. He was born 1839 in Canada, and died October 24, 1918 in St. Ignace, MI. Children of Margareth Robinson and Louis Lajoice are: 20 i. Margaret5 Lajoice, born 1857. 21 ii. Mary Lajoice, born 1859. 22 iii. Octavie Lajoice, born 1860. 23 iv. Henri/Henricus Lajoice, born 1862; died February 15, 1875 in Mackinac. 24 v. Frank/Francis Lajoice, born 1863 in Mackinac; died February 12, 1875 in St. Ignace, Mackinac County, MI. 25 vi. Angele Lajoice, born 1864. 26 vii. Noel Lajoice, born 1865. 27 viii. Joseph Sr Lajoice, born January 14, 1868 in St Ignace, Mackinac County, MI; died November 09, 1943 in St Ignace, Mackinac County, MI. He married (1) Angelica Boucher. He married (2) Pat Mahoney. He married (3) Mary Massey; born Abt. 1871; died November 18, 1943. He married (4) Roselie "Rose" DeRousha September 06, 1891 in Epoufette, Mackinac County, MI; born October 1871 in Beaver Island, Mackinac County, MI; died September 06, 1919 in St Ignace, Mackinac County, MI. 28 ix. Augustin Lajoice, born 1870; died January 27, 1873 in Mackinac. 29 x. Xavier Lajoice, born 1872. 30 xi. James/Jacob Lajoice, born April 04, 1874; died March 05, 1948. He married Jane St. Onge October 04, 1897 in Mackinac County, MI; born August 11, 1876; died August 26, 1962 in Mackinac. 31 xii. Louis III Lajoice, born 1876; died April 02, 1900 in Mackinac. 32 xiii. Issac Lajoice, born 1879; died October 22, 1879 in Mackinac. 33 xiv. Josette Bernedette Lajoice, born November 26, 1883. She married Louis Marks; born in Indiana. 9. Angeline 'Maggie'4 Robinson (Francis Sr3, Louis Joseph2, Jacques1 Robertson) was born October 1841 in St. Ignace, MI, and died September 25, 1900 in St. Ignace, Mackinac Co., MI. She married George Lamyotte/Amiot, Sr. January 02, 1861 in St. Ignatius Church, St. Ignace, MI, son of Colbert/Albert/Cuthbert Amiot and Marie Solomon. He was born June 04, 1836 in Penetanguishini, Ontario, Canada, and died May 05, 1920 in St. Ignace, MI at age 83.. Children of Angeline Robinson and George Lamyotte/Amiot are: 34 i. George5 Lamyotte/Amiot, Jr., born January 27, 1867 in Epoufette, Mackinac County, MI; died May 27, 1948 in St. Ignace, Mackinac County, MI. He married Elizabeth Josephine Paquin July 07, 1890 in St. Ignace, MI; born December 30, 1871 in St. Ignace, Mackinac Co., MI; died February 17, 1950 in Grand Rapids, Kent Co., MI. 35 ii. Angeline/Mary/Philomena Amiot/Lamyotte, born June 08, 1869 in St. Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan; died April 14, 1937 in St Ignace, Mackinac County, MI. She married (1) Alfred Raynce January 21, 1886 in St. Ignace, MI. She married (2) Noel LaJoice November 30, 1888 in St. Ignace, Mackinaw Co., MI; born 1861 in St. Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan; died July 24, 1895 in St. Ignace, Mackinac Co., MI. She married (3) Joseph Therrien October 12, 1899 in Mackinac County, MI; born 1840 in Enroute from France.; died June 29, 1913 in St. Ignace, MI. 36 iii. John Rueben Lamyotte/L'Amiot, born March 08, 1871 in Gros Cap, MI; died April 07, 1956 in St. Ignace, MI. He married Therese Ance/Anse April 10, 1894 in St. Ignace, MI. 37 iv. Agnes A Lamyotte, born March 28, 1872 in St. Ignace, MI; died January 27, 1898 in St. Ignace, MI. She married Oliver Jr Therrien May 13, 1896 in St. Ignace, MI; born August 14, 1874. 38 v. Octavia Amiot/Lamyotte, born December 28, 1873 in Mackinaw County, St Ignace, MI; died August 12, 1937 in St. Ignace, Mackinac County, MI. She married Joseph B LaVake February 18, 1901 in Mackinaw County, St. Ignace, MI; born August 03, 1878 in Mackinac County, Moran Twp., St. Ignace, MI; died September 16, 1954 in St. Ignace, Michigan. 39 vi. Anna Eustasia Lamyotte, born March 14, 1877 in St. Ignace, MI; died WFT Est. 1902-1971 in St. Ignace, MI. She married (1) Antoine Fournier; born 1879; died July 1951. She married (2) Henry Vallier June 04, 1896 in St. Ignace, Mackinaw Co., MI. 40 vii. Francis Lamyotte, born March 06, 1881 in St. Ignace, MI; died WFT Est. 1882-1971. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy McFarland" <nmcfarl@racc2000.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Vallier brick wall > Dixie, > Who are your Robinson's? I have Robinson's also. > Nancy > > > > > Carol, > > > > I have Wm Vallier & Roaslie Paquin in my lines. They were parents of > seven children. Collateral lines include Boucha/Boucher, Johnston, > Martineau, Massey, Robinson. > > > > Dixie J. > > > > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > _____________________________________________________ > This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm >

Dixie, Who are your Robinson's? I have Robinson's also. Nancy > Carol, > > I have Wm Vallier & Roaslie Paquin in my lines. They were parents of seven children. Collateral lines include Boucha/Boucher, Johnston, Martineau, Massey, Robinson. > > Dixie J. >

Carol, I have Wm Vallier & Roaslie Paquin in my lines. They were parents of seven children. Collateral lines include Boucha/Boucher, Johnston, Martineau, Massey, Robinson. Dixie J.

Aanii Jim, No i don't have the number for the bill that is on the floor,in Ohio. My friend Chief Sue Whitesmoke would have it though. Her e-mail is: sue@buffalospirit.com She should be able to answer your questions.... bama pii Louise james mayberry <jmay330@sbcglobal.net> wrote: hi louise, you wouldn't happen to have the bill number or name of bill for ohio would you. looking for it on ohio's web site with no luck. thx, jim --- Louise wrote: > Boozhoo Larry, > You answered that wonderfully. Your right we > are struggling for our rights here in Michigan and > other states. We have three states that have votes > on the floor, to be state recognized soon........One > vote takes place next month in Ohio. > Say Larry you have a Great > Christmas.........baamaa pii, Louise Redhawk > > > > > "Larry F. Friend" wrote:Kareen > > Metis is French for mixed bloods. Through time they > banded together living a > lifestyle and created a language basically there > own. The clothing was > colorful, the foods became rather unique to there > ways. Some seem to think > mostly of the Red River Valley community but Metis > were and are across > Canada and the the upper US border states. Baically > a a culture of white and > Indian mix. > > We have recently received the same recognition/staus > as an Indian in Canada. > Many have struggled long and hard to get to this > point but the struggle will > continue to right the wrongs of the past. > > Here in Minnesota we have numerous bands (each rez > is a band) that make up > the Minnesota Chippewa Tribe. Chippewa tribes are > locate Minnesota, > Wisconsin, Michigan and more. Yet Canada has more > Chippewa that there are in > the US. Taking into to account all of the Chippewa > of the US and Canada you > have the Chippewa Nation. We are divided by an > artificial line and > government beaurocracy with US side Chippewa not > being recognized by Canada > andvice versa.. > > Hope that helps... > > Larry Friend (Black Buffalo) > friend@2z.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kareen Lewis [mailto:klewis@lrboi.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 8:25 AM > To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [NISHNAWBE] Mackinac County ALHN Site > > > What is Metis? Is that a tribe? > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos - Get your photo on the big screen in > Times Square > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard

hi louise, you wouldn't happen to have the bill number or name of bill for ohio would you. looking for it on ohio's web site with no luck. thx, jim --- Louise <womanhawk3@yahoo.com> wrote: > Boozhoo Larry, > You answered that wonderfully. Your right we > are struggling for our rights here in Michigan and > other states. We have three states that have votes > on the floor, to be state recognized soon........One > vote takes place next month in Ohio. > Say Larry you have a Great > Christmas.........baamaa pii, Louise Redhawk > > > > > "Larry F. Friend" <friend@2z.net> wrote:Kareen > > Metis is French for mixed bloods. Through time they > banded together living a > lifestyle and created a language basically there > own. The clothing was > colorful, the foods became rather unique to there > ways. Some seem to think > mostly of the Red River Valley community but Metis > were and are across > Canada and the the upper US border states. Baically > a a culture of white and > Indian mix. > > We have recently received the same recognition/staus > as an Indian in Canada. > Many have struggled long and hard to get to this > point but the struggle will > continue to right the wrongs of the past. > > Here in Minnesota we have numerous bands (each rez > is a band) that make up > the Minnesota Chippewa Tribe. Chippewa tribes are > locate Minnesota, > Wisconsin, Michigan and more. Yet Canada has more > Chippewa that there are in > the US. Taking into to account all of the Chippewa > of the US and Canada you > have the Chippewa Nation. We are divided by an > artificial line and > government beaurocracy with US side Chippewa not > being recognized by Canada > andvice versa.. > > Hope that helps... > > Larry Friend (Black Buffalo) > friend@2z.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kareen Lewis [mailto:klewis@lrboi.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 8:25 AM > To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [NISHNAWBE] Mackinac County ALHN Site > > > What is Metis? Is that a tribe? > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos - Get your photo on the big screen in > Times Square > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Sure; pls let me know when it will be on and what time. Thanks

This is a little off the topic of genealogy but since so many enjoyed the dreamkeepers movie I thought I would mention this. For any of you Sherman Alexie fans, one of his newer movies will be on the sundance channel starting on the 6th. It is "The business of Fancydancing". We have directv with the satilite so we can do a search on the net to see when different things are on. I was going to go and rent it and my son checked it out and looks like I won't have to. I just have to wait till it is on! I have always enjoyed his work and though some of you may too! It is out available to buy now. Deb ************************************** Debbie Bert <debbiebert@ameritech.net> ************************************** What you accept, you teach.

Hello Carol Will be glad to share info with you. I have since found other info other than Ambrose for his father. Would you be willing to share info back and forth with me on the other families you mentioned? What is your Vallier brick wall? I have to go over to my son's to paint a wall mural so will be back soon. BettyK <><><><>><><><><> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Lalonde Hamp" <carolhamp@voyager.net> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 7:11 PM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] amiot > Hi, I have searched for two years to find proof of the parents of Colbert Amiot who married Jessie Solomon. I am doing a geneartion sheet for a relative of mine who has no computer. I believe his father might be Nicolas Amiot who was in Mackinac at that time. Would appreciate any info. > Carol > reserarching: Belonga, Lapierre, Leblanc, Montreuille, Lalonde, Leduc etc > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.556 / Virus Database: 348 - Release Date: 12/26/2003 > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > _____________________________________________________ > This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm >

----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Boivin To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 2:11 AM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Jean Baptiste LEDUC & Elisabeth PELLETIER Thank you for this info... I usually hesitate using Denissen's book because of all the spelling errors --- he anglicized all the names using a formula that was mainly his so it is sometimes difficult to figure out what the real name was. The Detroit Genealogical Society once considered trashing his book but decided that it was a valid research tool even with all the errors and spelling mistakes --- a tool to point where to look. Some easy names to figure out are: John Baptist = Jean Baptiste Mary Joseph = Marie Josephe or Josephte Andrew = Andre Geneva, Geneveva = Genevieve Angelica = Angelique (rare does a French name end in "a") (note I said RARE.. not NEVER) Anthony = Antoine or Antonio Lucy = Lucie DUBAY = DUBE But then we encounter Philip... I've found these to be Philippe, Philias, Philedelge, Philemon, Phileon or Philbert. Then there's James... Can be Jacques or Jamire. Joseph can be Josaphat, Jose, Josephin, or any other male name that he couldn't divine an English equivalent. And Nelson... Usually Narcisse but can be Naroise, Narcoise, or Naripe And Herman can be Hermel, Hermenegilde, Hermenez, Hermentin or Hermes. Elijah can be Elias or Lias, Eliphe, Elis oe Elizee I once had a copy of Ste-Anne's Répertoire and also Assumptions that I could cross-reference with but they went with my ex-wife in the divorce. <sigh> Have a GREAT weekend........... Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Davenport" <dfdavenport@yahoo.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Jean Baptiste LEDUC & Elisabeth PELLETIER > Gary, > > Much info on both families is in Denissen's "French > families of the Detroit River Region". > > Elizabeth Peltier is my 1st cousin 7 times removed. > Her husband John Baptist Leduc is my 3rd cousin 6 > times removed. (the old family tree gets a bit narrow > when dealing with a lot of the early French settlers. > > Note: John Baptist Leduc's parents were Phil Leduc and > Mary Joseph/Jossette Peltier. > > Here is a bit. > > 1. John Baptist Leduc was born 2 Jun 1765 in North > East Coast of Detroit, Wayne, County, Michigan. > John married Elisabeth Peltier, daughter of Andrew > Peltier and Mary Catherine Meloche, on 29 May 1797 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. Elisabeth was born 11 Jul 1780 in Assumption, > Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. She > was buried 26 Sep 1809 in Assumption, Sandwich > Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. > They had the following children: > 2 F i. Frances Leduc was born 9 Mar 1798 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. > Frances married Francis Oullette, son of John Baptist > Oullette and Geneveva Oulette, on 24 Jun 1817 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. Francis was born 6 Apr 1794 in Assumption, > Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. > 3 F ii. Angelica Leduc was born 4 Aug 1799 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. > Angelica married John Chrysostom Casavan dit > Ladebauche, son of Peter Casavan dit Ladebauche and > Jane/Mary Jane Villers dit St Louis. John was born 28 > Jul 1798 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex > County, Ontario, Canada. He was buried 8 Sep 1832 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. > 4 F iii. Rose Leduc was born 15 Sep 1801 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. > Rose married Joseph Dubay, son of Andrew Dubay and > Margaret Noriau, on 3 Nov 1819 in Assumption, Sandwich > Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Joseph was > born in Terrebonne, Lower Canada. > 5 F iv. Catherine Leduc was born 20 Dec 1802 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. She was buried 17 Nov 1808 in Assumption, > Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. > 6 F v. Elisabeth Lucy Leduc was born 12 Dec 1804 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. > Elisabeth married Anthony Charon dit Cabanac, son of > Augustin Charon dit Cabanac and Mary Ann Jacques > Andre, on 20 Feb 1821 in Assumption, Sandwich > Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Anthony was > born 23 Sep 1800 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, > Essex County, Ontario, Canada. He was buried 3 Dec > 1856 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, > Ontario, Canada. > 7 F vi. Anastasia Leduc was born 10 Mar 1807 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. > Anastasia married (1) Hippolyte Gouyou, son of Louis > Gouyou and Teresa Janis/Janisse, on 17 Jan 1826 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. Hippolyte was born 6 Feb 1795 in Assumption, > Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. He > was buried 27 Jul 1837 in Assumption, Sandwich > Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. > Anastasia also married (2) Anthony Reaume, son of > Anthony Reaume and Charlotte Villers dit St Louis, on > 10 Sep 1843 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex > County, Ontario, Canada. Anthony was born 2 Apr 1813 > in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, > Ontario, Canada. > 8 F vii. Archange Leduc was born 1 Mar 1809 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. She was buried 26 Feb 1843 in Assumption, > Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. > Archange married Louis St. Amour, son of John Baptist > Payet dit St Amour and Josette Leduc, on 18 Jan 1831 > in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, > Ontario, Canada. Louis was born 14 Sep 1802 in > Montreal, Quebec, Canada. He was buried 6 Apr 1884 in > Windsor, Ontario, Canada. > > Don Davenport > > > > ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Thank you for this info... I usually hesitate using Denissen's book because of all the spelling errors --- he anglicized all the names using a formula that was mainly his so it is sometimes difficult to figure out what the real name was. The Detroit Genealogical Society once considered trashing his book but decided that it was a valid research tool even with all the errors and spelling mistakes --- a tool to point where to look. Some easy names to figure out are: John Baptist = Jean Baptiste Mary Joseph = Marie Josephe or Josephte Andrew = Andre Geneva, Geneveva = Genevieve Angelica = Angelique (rare does a French name end in "a") (note I said RARE.. not NEVER) Anthony = Antoine or Antonio Lucy = Lucie DUBAY = DUBE But then we encounter Philip... I've found these to be Philippe, Philias, Philedelge, Philemon, Phileon or Philbert. Then there's James... Can be Jacques or Jamire. Joseph can be Josaphat, Jose, Josephin, or any other male name that he couldn't divine an English equivalent. And Nelson... Usually Narcisse but can be Naroise, Narcoise, or Naripe And Herman can be Hermel, Hermenegilde, Hermenez, Hermentin or Hermes. Elijah can be Elias or Lias, Eliphe, Elis oe Elizee I once had a copy of Ste-Anne's Répertoire and also Assumptions that I could cross-reference with but they went with my ex-wife in the divorce. <sigh> Have a GREAT weekend........... Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Davenport" <dfdavenport@yahoo.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Jean Baptiste LEDUC & Elisabeth PELLETIER > Gary, > > Much info on both families is in Denissen's "French > families of the Detroit River Region". > > Elizabeth Peltier is my 1st cousin 7 times removed. > Her husband John Baptist Leduc is my 3rd cousin 6 > times removed. (the old family tree gets a bit narrow > when dealing with a lot of the early French settlers. > > Note: John Baptist Leduc's parents were Phil Leduc and > Mary Joseph/Jossette Peltier. > > Here is a bit. > > 1. John Baptist Leduc was born 2 Jun 1765 in North > East Coast of Detroit, Wayne, County, Michigan. > John married Elisabeth Peltier, daughter of Andrew > Peltier and Mary Catherine Meloche, on 29 May 1797 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. Elisabeth was born 11 Jul 1780 in Assumption, > Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. She > was buried 26 Sep 1809 in Assumption, Sandwich > Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. > They had the following children: > 2 F i. Frances Leduc was born 9 Mar 1798 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. > Frances married Francis Oullette, son of John Baptist > Oullette and Geneveva Oulette, on 24 Jun 1817 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. Francis was born 6 Apr 1794 in Assumption, > Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. > 3 F ii. Angelica Leduc was born 4 Aug 1799 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. > Angelica married John Chrysostom Casavan dit > Ladebauche, son of Peter Casavan dit Ladebauche and > Jane/Mary Jane Villers dit St Louis. John was born 28 > Jul 1798 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex > County, Ontario, Canada. He was buried 8 Sep 1832 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. > 4 F iii. Rose Leduc was born 15 Sep 1801 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. > Rose married Joseph Dubay, son of Andrew Dubay and > Margaret Noriau, on 3 Nov 1819 in Assumption, Sandwich > Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Joseph was > born in Terrebonne, Lower Canada. > 5 F iv. Catherine Leduc was born 20 Dec 1802 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. She was buried 17 Nov 1808 in Assumption, > Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. > 6 F v. Elisabeth Lucy Leduc was born 12 Dec 1804 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. > Elisabeth married Anthony Charon dit Cabanac, son of > Augustin Charon dit Cabanac and Mary Ann Jacques > Andre, on 20 Feb 1821 in Assumption, Sandwich > Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Anthony was > born 23 Sep 1800 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, > Essex County, Ontario, Canada. He was buried 3 Dec > 1856 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, > Ontario, Canada. > 7 F vi. Anastasia Leduc was born 10 Mar 1807 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. > Anastasia married (1) Hippolyte Gouyou, son of Louis > Gouyou and Teresa Janis/Janisse, on 17 Jan 1826 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. Hippolyte was born 6 Feb 1795 in Assumption, > Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. He > was buried 27 Jul 1837 in Assumption, Sandwich > Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. > Anastasia also married (2) Anthony Reaume, son of > Anthony Reaume and Charlotte Villers dit St Louis, on > 10 Sep 1843 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex > County, Ontario, Canada. Anthony was born 2 Apr 1813 > in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, > Ontario, Canada. > 8 F vii. Archange Leduc was born 1 Mar 1809 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. She was buried 26 Feb 1843 in Assumption, > Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. > Archange married Louis St. Amour, son of John Baptist > Payet dit St Amour and Josette Leduc, on 18 Jan 1831 > in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, > Ontario, Canada. Louis was born 14 Sep 1802 in > Montreal, Quebec, Canada. He was buried 6 Apr 1884 in > Windsor, Ontario, Canada. > > Don Davenport > > > > --- Gary Boivin <gboivin@telusplanet.net> wrote: > > Searching for the parents of the following couple > > > > Jean Baptiste LEDUC > > m May 29 1797 Windsor, Essex, Ontario > > Elisabeth PELLETIER-PELTIER > > > > I have one daughter for this couple... > > Elisabeth LEDUC > > born Dec 12 1804 Sandwich, Ontario > > m Feb 20 1821 Assumption, Sandwich, Ontario > > Antoine CHARON-dit-CABANAC > > born Sep 23 1800, died Dec 03 1856 in Sandwich > > s/o Augustin CHARON-dit-CABANAC & Anne M. ANDRE > > > > ¶ C'est comme ça que s' passe dans l' temps des > > fêtes > > Tap à la galette... Les garçon les filles avec > > C'est comme ça que s' passe dans l' temps des fêtes > > C'est comme ça que s' passe dans l' temps du jour de > > l'an¶ > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the > > new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Thanks Joan Any of my relatives left are distant. I do have some Beaugrands. I have an Etienne Louis Gilbert born 1730 and wife Genevieve Boucher who had a daughter Genevieve who married Joseph Beaugrand. Joseph and Genevieve had a Jean Baptiste who married Genevieve Houde and had a son Jean Baptiste Beaugrand, etc. I have them married into the Coutu line a couple times. Thanks for the info. Jan Gouin the name of my great grandfather was Oliver Beaugrand, also lived in Cheboygan, born 1833-4 Canada, moved to Cheboygan around 1850s, twp named after him. you must still have cousins i cheb, with the name Gouin, Ayotte, and De Rosiers.still some of the families their. Joan

Gary, Much info on both families is in Denissen's "French families of the Detroit River Region". Elizabeth Peltier is my 1st cousin 7 times removed. Her husband John Baptist Leduc is my 3rd cousin 6 times removed. (the old family tree gets a bit narrow when dealing with a lot of the early French settlers. Note: John Baptist Leduc's parents were Phil Leduc and Mary Joseph/Jossette Peltier. Here is a bit. 1. John Baptist Leduc was born 2 Jun 1765 in North East Coast of Detroit, Wayne, County, Michigan. John married Elisabeth Peltier, daughter of Andrew Peltier and Mary Catherine Meloche, on 29 May 1797 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Elisabeth was born 11 Jul 1780 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. She was buried 26 Sep 1809 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. They had the following children: 2 F i. Frances Leduc was born 9 Mar 1798 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Frances married Francis Oullette, son of John Baptist Oullette and Geneveva Oulette, on 24 Jun 1817 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Francis was born 6 Apr 1794 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. 3 F ii. Angelica Leduc was born 4 Aug 1799 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Angelica married John Chrysostom Casavan dit Ladebauche, son of Peter Casavan dit Ladebauche and Jane/Mary Jane Villers dit St Louis. John was born 28 Jul 1798 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. He was buried 8 Sep 1832 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. 4 F iii. Rose Leduc was born 15 Sep 1801 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Rose married Joseph Dubay, son of Andrew Dubay and Margaret Noriau, on 3 Nov 1819 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Joseph was born in Terrebonne, Lower Canada. 5 F iv. Catherine Leduc was born 20 Dec 1802 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. She was buried 17 Nov 1808 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. 6 F v. Elisabeth Lucy Leduc was born 12 Dec 1804 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Elisabeth married Anthony Charon dit Cabanac, son of Augustin Charon dit Cabanac and Mary Ann Jacques Andre, on 20 Feb 1821 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Anthony was born 23 Sep 1800 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. He was buried 3 Dec 1856 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. 7 F vi. Anastasia Leduc was born 10 Mar 1807 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Anastasia married (1) Hippolyte Gouyou, son of Louis Gouyou and Teresa Janis/Janisse, on 17 Jan 1826 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Hippolyte was born 6 Feb 1795 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. He was buried 27 Jul 1837 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Anastasia also married (2) Anthony Reaume, son of Anthony Reaume and Charlotte Villers dit St Louis, on 10 Sep 1843 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Anthony was born 2 Apr 1813 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. 8 F vii. Archange Leduc was born 1 Mar 1809 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. She was buried 26 Feb 1843 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Archange married Louis St. Amour, son of John Baptist Payet dit St Amour and Josette Leduc, on 18 Jan 1831 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Louis was born 14 Sep 1802 in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. He was buried 6 Apr 1884 in Windsor, Ontario, Canada. Don Davenport --- Gary Boivin <gboivin@telusplanet.net> wrote: > Searching for the parents of the following couple > > Jean Baptiste LEDUC > m May 29 1797 Windsor, Essex, Ontario > Elisabeth PELLETIER-PELTIER > > I have one daughter for this couple... > Elisabeth LEDUC > born Dec 12 1804 Sandwich, Ontario > m Feb 20 1821 Assumption, Sandwich, Ontario > Antoine CHARON-dit-CABANAC > born Sep 23 1800, died Dec 03 1856 in Sandwich > s/o Augustin CHARON-dit-CABANAC & Anne M. ANDRE > > � C'est comme �a que s' passe dans l' temps des > f�tes > Tap � la galette... Les gar�on les filles avec > C'est comme �a que s' passe dans l' temps des f�tes > C'est comme �a que s' passe dans l' temps du jour de > l'an� > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the > new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 http://search.yahoo.com/top2003