More tidbits for you. Sacramental records VOl 7 Joly Bois Jose(son of Phelipe, native of Montreal in Canada, and Maria Luisa Charpantier, native of this city, both residents of this city), bapt. Mar. 21, 1802, born June 13, 1801, paternal grand parents Francisco Joly Bois and Ursula Legrand, maternal grandparents: Pedro Charpantier and Juana Mutard. Sacramental records Vol 6 Jolibois Bartolomeo (son of Felipo, native of Montreal in Canada, and Maria Luisa Charpentier, native of LaFource) bapt Jul 28, 1799, at age 3 months. Paternal grandparents: Francisco Jolibois and Ursula Legrand, maternal grandparents: Pedro Charpentier and Juana Moutard. the above were during Spanish rule of New Orleans, hence the change of spelling of first names. Vol 12 Jolie Bois (@Jolisbois) Philippe, edge-tool maker, interred April 10, 1816, deied April 9, 1816. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Bonnet" <jaggy227@fltg.net> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 8:18 PM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] a quick question > Hi, > > I'm trying to figure out if two of my French Canadian lines had Native > American connections in the upper Midwest, as my mother always claimed. > I have two family names which show up in southern Louisiana, one > (Morvant or Morvan) around 1750, and the other (Jolibois) around 1790. > Both originated in Montreal. I have documentation that my ancestor Jean > Morvan left Montreal in 1719, and was contracted ("engage ouest") to go > to "les pays d'en haut." He was engaged by a fur trapper, and basically > vanished from Quebec. His son, Bernard Morvant, first shows up in > Louisiana about 1750. I have no idea who Jean Morvan married, and > suspect he may have married a Native woman. No records have surfaced, > and I was wondering whether anyone might know of any Morvan or Morvant > records among Native families in the upper Midwest. > > The other is even stranger. My last proven ancestor, Philippe Jolibois, > was married in 1793 in St. James Parish, Louisiana, and states that he > is a native of Montreal. Who his parents are is uncertain; he gave one > set of parents (Philippe Courtois dit Jolibois and Marie Rosa) on one > document, and another (Francois Jolibois and Ursule Legrand) on > another! Neither pair shows up anywhere that I've looked in Quebecois > records, and I have some suspicion that he may have come down the > Mississippi as well. Has anyone found any Jolibois records that might > fit the bill? > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > cheers, > > Gordon Bonnet > Trumansburg NY > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hi all, Does anyone know why that very valuable website which allowed you to search an index of notary contracts of engagés in the fur trade has suddenly disappeared (just when I needed it, of course)? Is there a substitute or alternate source for this information? The URL was < http://www.solutions.net/voyageur/index.cgi > Betty Jack

Aanii Betty, Try this site.........it is about Voyagers.....http://www.canadiana.org/hbc/gloss/gloss_e.html Pacqrat@aol.com wrote:Hi all, Does anyone know why that very valuable website which allowed you to search an index of notary contracts of engag�s in the fur trade has suddenly disappeared (just when I needed it, of course)? Is there a substitute or alternate source for this information? The URL was < http://www.solutions.net/voyageur/index.cgi > Betty Jack ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 Redhawkwoman --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you�re looking for faster.

A quik check of baptismal recaords in New Orleans shows as follows: Please note-spelling varies with each record Vol 3 covers 1772-1783 Morven, Jeanne(dau of Bernard and Anne Marie D'Ervin) b. Sept 25, 1774, born Sep 12, 1774, sponsores Antoine Delattre (Delate) and Marie Louis Morven Vol 4 covers 1784-1790 Morven, Maria Luisa(dau of Bernardo and Marie Dervine) married Noel Panvel, Oct 23, 1790. Morvan, Janete (dau of Bernard and Maria Derven) married *semts Sexneidre, October 18, 1791. Usually these records give the names of Grandparents and the parish where the parents originated, but these do not. However, New Orleans has great birth records that you can order that might provide more info. Maybe the above Barnard is the son of your Bernard. I'll check on the one from St. James Parish when I get home from work. Pam Hero ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Bonnet" <jaggy227@fltg.net> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 8:18 PM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] a quick question > Hi, > > I'm trying to figure out if two of my French Canadian lines had Native > American connections in the upper Midwest, as my mother always claimed. > I have two family names which show up in southern Louisiana, one > (Morvant or Morvan) around 1750, and the other (Jolibois) around 1790. > Both originated in Montreal. I have documentation that my ancestor Jean > Morvan left Montreal in 1719, and was contracted ("engage ouest") to go > to "les pays d'en haut." He was engaged by a fur trapper, and basically > vanished from Quebec. His son, Bernard Morvant, first shows up in > Louisiana about 1750. I have no idea who Jean Morvan married, and > suspect he may have married a Native woman. No records have surfaced, > and I was wondering whether anyone might know of any Morvan or Morvant > records among Native families in the upper Midwest. > > The other is even stranger. My last proven ancestor, Philippe Jolibois, > was married in 1793 in St. James Parish, Louisiana, and states that he > is a native of Montreal. Who his parents are is uncertain; he gave one > set of parents (Philippe Courtois dit Jolibois and Marie Rosa) on one > document, and another (Francois Jolibois and Ursule Legrand) on > another! Neither pair shows up anywhere that I've looked in Quebecois > records, and I have some suspicion that he may have come down the > Mississippi as well. Has anyone found any Jolibois records that might > fit the bill? > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > cheers, > > Gordon Bonnet > Trumansburg NY > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hi, I'm trying to figure out if two of my French Canadian lines had Native American connections in the upper Midwest, as my mother always claimed. I have two family names which show up in southern Louisiana, one (Morvant or Morvan) around 1750, and the other (Jolibois) around 1790. Both originated in Montreal. I have documentation that my ancestor Jean Morvan left Montreal in 1719, and was contracted ("engage ouest") to go to "les pays d'en haut." He was engaged by a fur trapper, and basically vanished from Quebec. His son, Bernard Morvant, first shows up in Louisiana about 1750. I have no idea who Jean Morvan married, and suspect he may have married a Native woman. No records have surfaced, and I was wondering whether anyone might know of any Morvan or Morvant records among Native families in the upper Midwest. The other is even stranger. My last proven ancestor, Philippe Jolibois, was married in 1793 in St. James Parish, Louisiana, and states that he is a native of Montreal. Who his parents are is uncertain; he gave one set of parents (Philippe Courtois dit Jolibois and Marie Rosa) on one document, and another (Francois Jolibois and Ursule Legrand) on another! Neither pair shows up anywhere that I've looked in Quebecois records, and I have some suspicion that he may have come down the Mississippi as well. Has anyone found any Jolibois records that might fit the bill? Any help would be greatly appreciated. cheers, Gordon Bonnet Trumansburg NY

Sorry (lol), never meant to correct you, forgive me. I moved here from Michigan in 1969, only visited there twice since I moved here to Wa. state. Was unable to make it to father's funeral. Noted in newsletter that you live here in Wa. state also. I live in extreme NE corner. Emery A. Iliff. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anita Nelson" <anelson1@jamadots.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Sherman Alexie in this week's Internet Socut Report > You are going to correct me on the spelling of Burt? I felt lucky just to > remember something that happened 30 years ago....about people I only met > once. My brother has Alziemers disease, he don't even know my name. I > felt good remembering that far back...... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Emery A. Iliff" <tomahawk4172@surf1.ws> > To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 11:44 PM > Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Sherman Alexie in this week's Internet Socut Report > > > > Bert S Iliff was my father (not Burt) Bowden (Bob) was my uncle) Both have > > walked on. Thanks for your email Anita. Emery A. Iliff. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Anita Nelson" <anelson1@jamadots.com> > > To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:32 AM > > Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Sherman Alexie in this week's Internet Socut > Report > > > > > > > Emery: We had two Native American brothers that lived in this area > years > > > ago by the name of Iliff. (Alger Co. Michigan) One was Burt Iliff. I > > had > > > met him many years ago when I worked for the Indian Health Service > through > > > the Sault Tribe of Chippewa Indians. It was such an unusual name that > > it > > > stayed in my mind. > > > Hope you do not mind this email as it had nothing to do with the content > > of > > > your message. I was just wondering if you were connected to this > family? > > > Anita, woman with puckered shoes. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Emery A. Iliff" <tomahawk4172@surf1.ws> > > > To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 3:23 PM > > > Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Sherman Alexie in this week's Internet Socut > > Report > > > > > > > > > > I read one of Sherman's books, about life on the rez, about a band > > group. > > > It > > > > was hilarious, and sounds authentic of rez life. I was a cop on the > > > Colville > > > > rez in Wa. state, and encountered many humorous situations. Alexie is > a > > > fine > > > > Indian writer. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Jeff Farmer" <jsfrmr@hotmail.com> > > > > To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 7:45 AM > > > > Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Sherman Alexie in this week's Internet Socut > Report > > > > > > > > > > > > Sites about Sherman Alexie from this week's Scout Report > > > > (http://scout.wisc.edu/): > > > > > > > > 16. Two on Sherman Alexie > > > > Native American Authors: Sherman Alexie > > > > http://www.ipl.org/div/natam/bin/browse.pl/A1 > > > > Modern American Poetry: Sherman Alexie > > > > http://www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/poets/a_f/alexie/alexie.htm > > > > > > > > Emerging in the early 1990s as an important new literary voice, the > poet > > > and > > > > author Sherman Alexie has garnered critical acclaim for his work, much > > of > > > > which deals with the contemporary experience of being a Native > American. > > > > Alexie grew up on the Spokane Indian Reservation in Washington, and > > later > > > > discovered poetry in a writing workshop while in college at Washington > > > State > > > > University. The first site presented here is part of the Internet > Public > > > > Library, and contains a number of links to interviews with Alexie and > > > > reviews of his numerous works. The second site is provided by the > Modern > > > > American Poetry project at the University of Illinois, and contains a > > > number > > > > of links to commentaries on Alexie's work, his own reflections on what > > it > > > > means to be a Native American author, and growing up on "the rez." > [KMG] > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > One-click access to Hotmail from any Web page - download MSN Toolbar > > now! > > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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You are going to correct me on the spelling of Burt? I felt lucky just to remember something that happened 30 years ago....about people I only met once. My brother has Alziemers disease, he don't even know my name. I felt good remembering that far back...... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emery A. Iliff" <tomahawk4172@surf1.ws> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Sherman Alexie in this week's Internet Socut Report > Bert S Iliff was my father (not Burt) Bowden (Bob) was my uncle) Both have > walked on. Thanks for your email Anita. Emery A. Iliff. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anita Nelson" <anelson1@jamadots.com> > To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:32 AM > Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Sherman Alexie in this week's Internet Socut Report > > > > Emery: We had two Native American brothers that lived in this area years > > ago by the name of Iliff. (Alger Co. Michigan) One was Burt Iliff. I > had > > met him many years ago when I worked for the Indian Health Service through > > the Sault Tribe of Chippewa Indians. It was such an unusual name that > it > > stayed in my mind. > > Hope you do not mind this email as it had nothing to do with the content > of > > your message. I was just wondering if you were connected to this family? > > Anita, woman with puckered shoes. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Emery A. Iliff" <tomahawk4172@surf1.ws> > > To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 3:23 PM > > Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Sherman Alexie in this week's Internet Socut > Report > > > > > > > I read one of Sherman's books, about life on the rez, about a band > group. > > It > > > was hilarious, and sounds authentic of rez life. I was a cop on the > > Colville > > > rez in Wa. state, and encountered many humorous situations. Alexie is a > > fine > > > Indian writer. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jeff Farmer" <jsfrmr@hotmail.com> > > > To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 7:45 AM > > > Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Sherman Alexie in this week's Internet Socut Report > > > > > > > > > Sites about Sherman Alexie from this week's Scout Report > > > (http://scout.wisc.edu/): > > > > > > 16. Two on Sherman Alexie > > > Native American Authors: Sherman Alexie > > > http://www.ipl.org/div/natam/bin/browse.pl/A1 > > > Modern American Poetry: Sherman Alexie > > > http://www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/poets/a_f/alexie/alexie.htm > > > > > > Emerging in the early 1990s as an important new literary voice, the poet > > and > > > author Sherman Alexie has garnered critical acclaim for his work, much > of > > > which deals with the contemporary experience of being a Native American. > > > Alexie grew up on the Spokane Indian Reservation in Washington, and > later > > > discovered poetry in a writing workshop while in college at Washington > > State > > > University. The first site presented here is part of the Internet Public > > > Library, and contains a number of links to interviews with Alexie and > > > reviews of his numerous works. The second site is provided by the Modern > > > American Poetry project at the University of Illinois, and contains a > > number > > > of links to commentaries on Alexie's work, his own reflections on what > it > > > means to be a Native American author, and growing up on "the rez." [KMG] > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > One-click access to Hotmail from any Web page - download MSN Toolbar > now! > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

We have an Anita Nelson in our family. She was married to Mike Nelson and they lived in Tacoma, WA. Ring any bells? Spiritdove ~v~ on 3/7/04 11:32 AM, Anita Nelson at anelson1@jamadots.com wrote: > You are going to correct me on the spelling of Burt? I felt lucky just to > remember something that happened 30 years ago....about people I only met > once. My brother has Alziemers disease, he don't even know my name. I > felt good remembering that far back......

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Bert S Iliff was my father (not Burt) Bowden (Bob) was my uncle) Both have walked on. Thanks for your email Anita. Emery A. Iliff. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anita Nelson" <anelson1@jamadots.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:32 AM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Sherman Alexie in this week's Internet Socut Report > Emery: We had two Native American brothers that lived in this area years > ago by the name of Iliff. (Alger Co. Michigan) One was Burt Iliff. I had > met him many years ago when I worked for the Indian Health Service through > the Sault Tribe of Chippewa Indians. It was such an unusual name that it > stayed in my mind. > Hope you do not mind this email as it had nothing to do with the content of > your message. I was just wondering if you were connected to this family? > Anita, woman with puckered shoes. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Emery A. Iliff" <tomahawk4172@surf1.ws> > To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 3:23 PM > Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Sherman Alexie in this week's Internet Socut Report > > > > I read one of Sherman's books, about life on the rez, about a band group. > It > > was hilarious, and sounds authentic of rez life. I was a cop on the > Colville > > rez in Wa. state, and encountered many humorous situations. Alexie is a > fine > > Indian writer. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jeff Farmer" <jsfrmr@hotmail.com> > > To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 7:45 AM > > Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Sherman Alexie in this week's Internet Socut Report > > > > > > Sites about Sherman Alexie from this week's Scout Report > > (http://scout.wisc.edu/): > > > > 16. Two on Sherman Alexie > > Native American Authors: Sherman Alexie > > http://www.ipl.org/div/natam/bin/browse.pl/A1 > > Modern American Poetry: Sherman Alexie > > http://www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/poets/a_f/alexie/alexie.htm > > > > Emerging in the early 1990s as an important new literary voice, the poet > and > > author Sherman Alexie has garnered critical acclaim for his work, much of > > which deals with the contemporary experience of being a Native American. > > Alexie grew up on the Spokane Indian Reservation in Washington, and later > > discovered poetry in a writing workshop while in college at Washington > State > > University. The first site presented here is part of the Internet Public > > Library, and contains a number of links to interviews with Alexie and > > reviews of his numerous works. The second site is provided by the Modern > > American Poetry project at the University of Illinois, and contains a > number > > of links to commentaries on Alexie's work, his own reflections on what it > > means to be a Native American author, and growing up on "the rez." [KMG] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > One-click access to Hotmail from any Web page - download MSN Toolbar now! > > http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Emery: We had two Native American brothers that lived in this area years ago by the name of Iliff. (Alger Co. Michigan) One was Burt Iliff. I had met him many years ago when I worked for the Indian Health Service through the Sault Tribe of Chippewa Indians. It was such an unusual name that it stayed in my mind. Hope you do not mind this email as it had nothing to do with the content of your message. I was just wondering if you were connected to this family? Anita, woman with puckered shoes. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emery A. Iliff" <tomahawk4172@surf1.ws> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Sherman Alexie in this week's Internet Socut Report > I read one of Sherman's books, about life on the rez, about a band group. It > was hilarious, and sounds authentic of rez life. I was a cop on the Colville > rez in Wa. state, and encountered many humorous situations. Alexie is a fine > Indian writer. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Farmer" <jsfrmr@hotmail.com> > To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 7:45 AM > Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Sherman Alexie in this week's Internet Socut Report > > > Sites about Sherman Alexie from this week's Scout Report > (http://scout.wisc.edu/): > > 16. Two on Sherman Alexie > Native American Authors: Sherman Alexie > http://www.ipl.org/div/natam/bin/browse.pl/A1 > Modern American Poetry: Sherman Alexie > http://www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/poets/a_f/alexie/alexie.htm > > Emerging in the early 1990s as an important new literary voice, the poet and > author Sherman Alexie has garnered critical acclaim for his work, much of > which deals with the contemporary experience of being a Native American. > Alexie grew up on the Spokane Indian Reservation in Washington, and later > discovered poetry in a writing workshop while in college at Washington State > University. The first site presented here is part of the Internet Public > Library, and contains a number of links to interviews with Alexie and > reviews of his numerous works. The second site is provided by the Modern > American Poetry project at the University of Illinois, and contains a number > of links to commentaries on Alexie's work, his own reflections on what it > means to be a Native American author, and growing up on "the rez." [KMG] > > _________________________________________________________________ > One-click access to Hotmail from any Web page - download MSN Toolbar now! > http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello all, Bonga also married Metis women, and is known to have had several children, and several desendance. Also, he lived in RedRiver Settlement. Louise "Larry F. Friend" <friend@2z.net> wrote:Hi All Thought someone may be interested in this. http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/lhbum:@field(DOCID+@lit(lhbum768 9hdiv10)) January 22, 1795, was interred in the cemetery of this post Jean Bongas,8 a free negro--who died the day before yesterday evening about nine o'clock--with public prayers in the absence of a missionary. Larry Friend (Black Buffalo) friend@2z.net ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 Redhawkwoman --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you�re looking for faster.

Stephen Andrew Mack married Temperance Bond Stephen founded Pontiac, Michigan Stephen's sister Lucy Mack married Joseph Smith Sr. - they were the parents of Joseph Smith the Mormon prophet Stephen's son Stephen Mack married Hononegah (Birds Grove, Illinois). Stephen founded Macktown, Illinois, (next to Rockton and close to Beloit, WI.) My query concerns the ancestry of Hononegah. Some say she was Potawatomie, and the daughter of a chief. Her husband, Stephen, however, applied for mixed blood money for his children per the Winnebago Mixed-Blood Claim Commissions at Prairie du Chien, WI in 1838 and 1839. (Ref. "Neither White Men Nor Indians", by Linda Waggoner. This book lists all the affidavits from these commissions. You can contact me direct for information on this book). In these affidavits, Stephen says that the father of Hononegah was Blacksmith, who resided near the four lakes, and had died about 1820-21. Stephen did not know if Blacksmith was 1/2 or full blood Winnebago. Blacksmith's 3 brothers are named. Co-no saip kah (or Little Black), Es tche e she sheek, and Ho ro hon kak. The sister of Hononegah was We hun see gah. Hononegah's mother was Inoquer, a full blood Winnebago woman. One descendant claims that Ho no ne gah translates as "first born daughter of Chief Gah". I question this, although we do not know what Blacksmith's indian name was. If anyone has any information on this family, I will be very grateful. This is one of my major brick walls. Thanks Curt (Curtis Benoit Londroche) Curt@Londroche.us

Hi All Thought someone may be interested in this. http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/lhbum:@field(DOCID+@lit(lhbum768 9hdiv10)) January 22, 1795, was interred in the cemetery of this post Jean Bongas,8 a free negro--who died the day before yesterday evening about nine o'clock--with public prayers in the absence of a missionary. Larry Friend (Black Buffalo) friend@2z.net

I read one of Sherman's books, about life on the rez, about a band group. It was hilarious, and sounds authentic of rez life. I was a cop on the Colville rez in Wa. state, and encountered many humorous situations. Alexie is a fine Indian writer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Farmer" <jsfrmr@hotmail.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 7:45 AM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Sherman Alexie in this week's Internet Socut Report Sites about Sherman Alexie from this week's Scout Report (http://scout.wisc.edu/): 16. Two on Sherman Alexie Native American Authors: Sherman Alexie http://www.ipl.org/div/natam/bin/browse.pl/A1 Modern American Poetry: Sherman Alexie http://www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/poets/a_f/alexie/alexie.htm Emerging in the early 1990s as an important new literary voice, the poet and author Sherman Alexie has garnered critical acclaim for his work, much of which deals with the contemporary experience of being a Native American. Alexie grew up on the Spokane Indian Reservation in Washington, and later discovered poetry in a writing workshop while in college at Washington State University. The first site presented here is part of the Internet Public Library, and contains a number of links to interviews with Alexie and reviews of his numerous works. The second site is provided by the Modern American Poetry project at the University of Illinois, and contains a number of links to commentaries on Alexie's work, his own reflections on what it means to be a Native American author, and growing up on "the rez." [KMG] _________________________________________________________________ One-click access to Hotmail from any Web page - download MSN Toolbar now! http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Sites about Sherman Alexie from this week's Scout Report (http://scout.wisc.edu/): 16. Two on Sherman Alexie Native American Authors: Sherman Alexie http://www.ipl.org/div/natam/bin/browse.pl/A1 Modern American Poetry: Sherman Alexie http://www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/poets/a_f/alexie/alexie.htm Emerging in the early 1990s as an important new literary voice, the poet and author Sherman Alexie has garnered critical acclaim for his work, much of which deals with the contemporary experience of being a Native American. Alexie grew up on the Spokane Indian Reservation in Washington, and later discovered poetry in a writing workshop while in college at Washington State University. The first site presented here is part of the Internet Public Library, and contains a number of links to interviews with Alexie and reviews of his numerous works. The second site is provided by the Modern American Poetry project at the University of Illinois, and contains a number of links to commentaries on Alexie's work, his own reflections on what it means to be a Native American author, and growing up on "the rez." [KMG] _________________________________________________________________ One-click access to Hotmail from any Web page – download MSN Toolbar now! http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/

Boozhoo fellow listers, I came across 2 sites I found really interesting. The first has tons of treaty info, plus legal referrences. The 2nd one has tons of names I've seen cross this list over & over.. Hope someone can use this info... Baamaapii (until later), Teri Black.. www.tribalresourcecenter.org This site has tons of legal info, historical treaties, & resource sites It's also Native run... ------------------------------------------------------------ I copied the heading on this page because it says it all... The goods on this page are of the mid-North American fur trade era it's history & genealogy prior to the 1840's. Biographies & Histories of TRADERS / MERCHANTS / CHIEFS / OFFICERS / VOYAGEURS www.usinternet.com/users/dfnels/index.htm Pete & Teri Black 4 Winds Ranch Quemado, NM 4windsnm@gilanet.com

If anyone out there is researching or related to this person Ebay has his original 1871 land grant for sale. eBay item 2228365550 (Ends Mar-02-04 20:01:13 PST) - Indian Land Grant 1871 Chi Lisa

In a message dated 2/27/2004 11:09:08 AM Central Standard Time, NISHNAWBE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: Please post what you learn at Exhibit at Clarke Historical Library Yes, please!! If anyone is able to go I would love to hear about anything they might have on TREATY WITH THE CHIPPEWA, 1819 Kishkaukou, his x mark TREATY WITH THE CHIPPEWA, 1826. Keenesteno, his x mark. He also signed the Treaties of 1847 and 1854, each time his name is spelled a little different. On his daughter's probate papers, his name is spelled Ginishtano. Joyce W

Anyone going to get a chance to see this exibit? Please post what you learn. Personally interester in Chief Topenebee.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "James P. LaLone" <jplalone@prodigy.net> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 12:34 PM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Fw: Native-American Exhibit at Clarke Historical Library > > Subject: Native-American Exhibit at Clarke Historical Library > > > New Exhibit at Clarke Historical Library, CMU, Mt. Pleasant, MI > > NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBAL LEADERS: PROUD, SKILLFUL TREATY NEGOTIATORS > > MOUNT PLEASANT - The lives and times of Native American tribal leaders > in the Great Lakes region who signed treaties with the federal > government in the 1820s are featured in a new Clarke Historical Library > exhibit at Central Michigan University: Native American Treaty Signers > in The Great Lakes Region. > > The exhibit centers on 22 full-color lithographs of Native American > leaders drawn by James O. Lewis and printed between 1835 and 1836. The > images reveal the proud, detailed profiles of legendary Indian leaders > focused on achieving the best possible treaties for their people. > > "They are often portrayed as unsophisticated, yet these Indian leaders > were actually thoughtful negotiators who employed skills developed > during a long history of striking deals between Native Americans and > Europeans," said Frank Boles, director of the Clarke Historical Library. > > "They were neither simple nor uneducated. They were very proud and > sophisticated leaders who knew how to negotiate treaties for the benefit > of their people," he continued. > > "Native American Treaty Signers in the Great Lakes Region" runs through > July 16 in the library's Francis and Mary Lois Molson Gallery. Admission > is free and open to the public. > > The lithographs, purchased by the Clarke at a Chicago auction in 2003, > were color prints made from the original, mostly watercolor paintings of > the Indian leaders drawn from life at the various treaty ceremonies. The > original sketches were destroyed in an 1865 fire at the Smithsonian > Institution in Washington, D.C. > > The exhibit also features a number of other printed items that shaped > relationships between Native Americans and Euro-Americans. Items > include: several books written by the Potawatomi leader Simon Pokagon > and printed on birch bark; the first copy of the New Testament published > in Ojibway language, printed in 1833; and a first edition of Henry > Wadsworth Longfellow's poem "Song of Hiawatha," which was published in > Boston in 1855. > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237