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    1. George Smith - Oneida
    2. Larry F. Friend
    3. JW I extracted the following from the 1880 census cd's. These are all the Smith's and Fowler's I found living in Wisconsin in 1880 denoted as being Native American. I copied all of them below but the only one that stands out would give you a hard time to locate in the census. Was his middle name David? E. Henry FOWLER Self M Male NA 32 WI Farm NY NY A. Emily FOWLER Wife M Female NA 26 WI Keep House NY ENG L. Elma FOWLER Dau S Female NA 7 WI Home WI WI G. David SMITH Other W Male NA 69 NY Farm VA CT Census Place Brothertown, Calumet, Wisconsin Family History Library Film 1255418 NA Film Number T9-1418 Page Number 20D Do you know if he had a daughter A. Emily by chance that married E. Henry Fowler? Fowler's were also from New York. I have been working long hours and may have missed a post but don't recall seeing much in the way of other info on George. Larry Friend (Black Buffalo) friend@2z.net -----Original Message----- From: Goatcreekm@aol.com [mailto:Goatcreekm@aol.com] Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 8:32 PM To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Re: NISHNAWBE-D Digest V04 #85 In a message dated 6/7/2004 6:09:10 AM Central Daylight Time, NISHNAWBE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: X-Message: #2 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 16:15:12 -0600 From: JCUSTODIO@webtv.net (Juanita Custodio) If George was Oneida, and born 1820, it would have been N.Y., but I have no proof this Geo. was Oneida, only that he is linked to a Denny who was Oneida. I have not found the family on the 1880 census yet, but will keep looking. This particular Geo. is supposed to have died about 1892. There are only about 1/2 million Geo. Smith's b/ 1820. : ) Since I don't know where he was born, it does make it more difficult. JW =============================================================== SMITH, G. David Other <1811> M NA Bir: NY Cen: WI Calume Brothertow SMITH, Baptist Self <1825> M NA Bir: NY Cen: WI FonDuL FondDuLac SMITH, Jo. Self <1830> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Ashlan Ashland SMITH, Charlott Wife <1835> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Ashlan Ashland SMITH, John Self <1840> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Ashlan Ashland SMITH, Sabina Wife <1841> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI FonDuL FondDuLac SMITH, Peter Self <1844> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow SMITH, Rebecca Wife <1848> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow SMITH, Alvin Self <1857> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI FonDuL FondDuLac SMITH, Susie Dau <1860> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Ashlan Ashland SMITH, Maggie Dau <1862> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Ashlan Ashland SMITH, Emma Dau <1864> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI FonDuL FondDuLac SMITH, Julia Dau <1865> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Ashlan Ashland SMITH, Ida Ella Dau <1866> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI FonDuL FondDuLac SMITH, Charley Nephew <1867> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Chippe Flambeau SMITH, Almona Dau <1868> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow SMITH, Angelina Dau <1868> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Ashlan Ashland SMITH, Frank Son <1869> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI FonDuL FondDuLac SMITH, Nelson Son <1871> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI FonDuL FondDuLac SMITH, Willie Son <1871> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow SMITH, William Son <1874> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI FonDuL FondDuLac SMITH, Elsie Dau <1875> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow SMITH, Alice Dau <1878> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow SMITH, Clara Dau <1879> F NA Bir: WI FOWLER, V. Mary Self <1812> F NA Bir: NY Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, David Self <1813> M NA Bir: NY Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, Betsey Wife <1817> F NA Bir: NY Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, C. John Self <1818> M NA Bir: NY Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, S. Lucius Self <1819> M NA Bir: NY Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, J. Phoebe Wife <1819> F NA Bir: NY Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, Laton Other <1823> M NA Bir: NY Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, Gg. Benjamin Self <1824> M NA Bir: NY Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, P. Lyman Self <1824> M NA Bir: NY Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, Roxanna Sister <1825> F NA Bir: NY Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, Desdamona Self <1827> F NA Bir: NY Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, Aurrilla Wife <1830> F NA Bir: NY Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, D. James Self <1836> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, E. Sarah Wife <1842> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, M. Catherine DauL <1847> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, E. Henry Self <1848> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, Lothrop Son <1848> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, C. Henry Son <1851> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, L. William Son <1851> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, A. Elizabeth Dau <1853> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, Emily Dau <1853> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, P. Willis Son <1853> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, A. Emily Wife <1854> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, E. Marcia Dau <1854> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, Lewis Self <1855> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Marath Spencer FOWLER, L. Agnes Dau <1856> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, A. Lucius Son <1856> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, Mercey Wife <1857> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Marath Spencer FOWLER, Ensign Son <1859> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, L. James BroL <1859> M NA Bir: NY Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, L. Claribel Dau <1863> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, D. Mary Dau <1864> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, G. Orrin Son <1865> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, C. Ansel Son <1869> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, A. Griselda GDau <1869> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, A. Charles GSon <1872> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, F. Millard GSon <1872> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, L. Elma Dau <1873> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, D. Oscar Son <1874> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, D. Herbert GSon <1877> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, Maude Dau <1878> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Marath Spencer FOWLER, J. Leah GDau <1880> F NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Calume Brothertow FOWLER, Ralph Son <1880> M NA Bir: WI Cen: WI Marath Spencer

    06/11/2004 05:15:04
    1. Rix Robinson
    2. Ask the Rix Robinson you know to tell you what he knows about his ancestors & what line he is from. Ask if he knows about the reunions. It would be interesting to see if he has native heritage. Will be waiting, even if it takes all summer!!! From Sebequay.

    06/10/2004 07:51:52
    1. Re: NISHNAWBE-D Digest V04 #85
    2. In a message dated 6/7/2004 6:09:10 AM Central Daylight Time, NISHNAWBE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: X-Message: #2 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 16:15:12 -0600 From: JCUSTODIO@webtv.net (Juanita Custodio) If George was Oneida, and born 1820, it would have been N.Y., but I have no proof this Geo. was Oneida, only that he is linked to a Denny who was Oneida. I have not found the family on the 1880 census yet, but will keep looking. This particular Geo. is supposed to have died about 1892. There are only about 1/2 million Geo. Smith's b/ 1820. : ) Since I don't know where he was born, it does make it more difficult. JW

    06/07/2004 03:32:26
    1. Re: [NISHNAWBE] Re: Oneida Smiths
    2. Looking for Andrew J. Smith b. Georgia, VT. abt. 1822. His 2 brothers, Lucius Davis and John were born and recorded there. He is not. Have asked Montpieler also and no record. His parents are Josiah Smith and Sarah Whittemore who were married in ST. Albans, VT. No mention of him anywhere yet. Does anyonel have this line or know anything? Thank you, Lynn

    06/07/2004 02:06:11
    1. Re: SMITH
    2. Juanita Custodio
    3. Joyce....thanks for your response.....Was the George Smith, born 1820 Oneida Wisconsin or Oneida New York?

    06/06/2004 10:15:12
    1. Re: Rix Robinson
    2. Larry Cartwright
    3. You probably know this, but there is a Rix Robinson, that lives in Cedar Springs, MI.' and he is descended from Rix Robinson,I know him personally. --- NISHNAWBE-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > ATTACHMENT part 1 message/rfc822 > > NISHNAWBE-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 84 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: NISHNAWBE-D Digest V04 #83 > [Goatcreekm@aol.com] > #2 address changes??? > [Sebequay@aol.com] > #3 Robinson line & Edward, Edward, Ri > [Sebequay@aol.com] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from NISHNAWBE-D, send a message to > > NISHNAWBE-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, > but if your software requires one, just use > unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 23:13:40 EDT > From: Goatcreekm@aol.com > To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: NISHNAWBE-D Digest V04 #83 > > In a message dated 6/2/2004 10:02:50 PM Central > Daylight Time, > NISHNAWBE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Does any of this match up to your Smiths or > Picards????? Juanita > Juanita, > I am sorry, but the only Packard I have is a > John who was born about > 1860. I don't have a Leonora Packard / Picard. I > do have a George Smith in with > the Oneida's, but he was born about 1820, and he > married Katherine Denny. > > Joyce W > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 > Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 23:48:18 -0400 > From: Sebequay@aol.com > To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: address changes??? > > Could you please change my address from > Sebequay@Aol.com to Riverwoman@Excite.com? Thank > you. > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 4 message/rfc822 > Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 00:46:53 -0400 > From: Sebequay@aol.com > To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Robinson line & Edward, Edward, Rix, Steve, > QuisMoQua, Lydia Smith > > Remember the annual Robinson reunion 3rd weekend in > August in Ada park. Details as time nears. My dad, > Max Aley, now 91, is from Edward Robinson line. His > great grandfather was Steven Robinson whose dad was > Edward whose dad was Edward Sr. who was married to > Eunice RIX. That is where the Rix name came in. > Eunice & Edward had a son they named Rix Robinson > who became famous in West Michigan. Look in your > search engine for Rix Robinson. Cousin my age, Mark > VonDestinon has done much research & has website > with name Cochise in it (as that is the college he > works for).... Rix married 2 Indian woman. (I take > my email name from the second one.. means > riverwoman... Sebequay....) Also, on my dad's > mother's side... his great grandmother was Lydia > (married David Smith) whose mom was QuisMoQua, a > full blooded Ottawa Indian, buried in Montague, > Michigan. Finding relatives from these people has > proved quite interesting. ... denice > ===== Larry L. Cartwright __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/

    06/05/2004 09:53:14
    1. Robinson line & Edward, Edward, Rix, Steve, QuisMoQua, Lydia Smith
    2. Remember the annual Robinson reunion 3rd weekend in August in Ada park. Details as time nears. My dad, Max Aley, now 91, is from Edward Robinson line. His great grandfather was Steven Robinson whose dad was Edward whose dad was Edward Sr. who was married to Eunice RIX. That is where the Rix name came in. Eunice & Edward had a son they named Rix Robinson who became famous in West Michigan. Look in your search engine for Rix Robinson. Cousin my age, Mark VonDestinon has done much research & has website with name Cochise in it (as that is the college he works for).... Rix married 2 Indian woman. (I take my email name from the second one.. means riverwoman... Sebequay....) Also, on my dad's mother's side... his great grandmother was Lydia (married David Smith) whose mom was QuisMoQua, a full blooded Ottawa Indian, buried in Montague, Michigan. Finding relatives from these people has proved quite interesting. ... denice

    06/04/2004 06:46:53
    1. address changes???
    2. Could you please change my address from Sebequay@Aol.com to Riverwoman@Excite.com? Thank you.

    06/04/2004 05:48:18
    1. Re: NISHNAWBE-D Digest V04 #83
    2. In a message dated 6/2/2004 10:02:50 PM Central Daylight Time, NISHNAWBE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: Does any of this match up to your Smiths or Picards????? Juanita Juanita, I am sorry, but the only Packard I have is a John who was born about 1860. I don't have a Leonora Packard / Picard. I do have a George Smith in with the Oneida's, but he was born about 1820, and he married Katherine Denny. Joyce W

    06/04/2004 05:13:40
    1. Re: PACKARD/PICARD/SMITH
    2. Juanita Custodio
    3. Charles -- thanks for your response, but I see no connection to the Michigan Smiths...... JW -- my GEORGE A. SMITH is listed as the only relative to LEONORA PACKARD in IGI records............ LEONORA PACKARD was born about 1791 in supposedly Conn., but could have been Vermont.....She married Richard Loomis in 1812 and died in supposedly Madrid, St. Lawrence Co, N.Y. in abt 1869, but can find no cemetary records........ Recently heard from a PICARD researcher and we were looking into the possibility that GEORGE A. SMITH possibly could be GEORGE A. desFORGES dit PICARD who was aka GEORGE A SMITH......His father Israel was born in 1870 so that would put him in the same age bracket as Leonora......perhaps they were cousins -- just a long shot, but you never know............ Does any of this match up to your Smiths or Picards????? Juanita

    06/01/2004 02:46:47
    1. Fw: Tribe's political rift has statewide impact
    2. James P. LaLone
    3. Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 7:39 AM Subject: MI: Tribe's political rift has statewide impact http://www.freep.com/news/casinos/tribe1_20040601.htm Tribe's political rift has statewide impact Tribe's political rift has statewide impact June 1, 2004BY TINA LAM FREE PRESS STAFF WRITERThe Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians, the largest official tribe east of the Mississippi and owner of Detroit's Greektown Casino, is in the midst of the fiercest turmoil in its 30-year history. The FBI is investigating two written death threats against the chairman, Bernard Bouschor. Bouschor has banned members from tribal land for what some say are minor infractions. Recently, tribal Vice Chairman Aaron Payment beat Bouschor in a four-way primary, setting up the chairman for his toughest election in his 17 years in office. The final vote -- a mail-in election -- will begin Friday, with votes counted June 24. Some members of his tribe say Bouschor has become a dictator who wields too much control and has stayed too long. Others say he has been good for the tribe and should stay. The politics within the 31,000-member tribe matter beyond its borders because it has become a powerful political force not only in the Upper Peninsula and Lansing, but also in Detroit. New leadership could chart a different course for the tribe's casinos in Detroit and Romulus. Payment said that if he wins, the tribe won't have casinos in both cities. "We told people in Detroit we would be behind Greektown," he said. "If Romulus turns out to be a wonderful opportunity and we move in that direction, then we should let somebody else have the opportunity in Greektown. We can't talk out of both sides of our mouth." The tribe plans a $350-million reservation casino in Romulus, which infuriates Detroit city officials because it would compete with Detroit's casinos. The tribe should put a casino in Monroe or Flint instead, Payment said. Anger, suspicion build The race for chairman has already been a hard-fought campaign that featured unsuccessful efforts by Bouschor's supporters to kick Payment off the tribal board. Anger and suspicion are rampant. The tribe will hand-count every vote in the upcoming election, because of fears its electronic ballot scanners aren't tamper-proof. Nearly four years ago, Bouschor was on top of the world, cutting the ribbons on the sparkling new Greektown Casino, the first non-reservation casino in the United States owned by a tribe. He had presided over the biggest expansion in the tribe's history, from its meager start in the early 1970s on a reservation without water and sewer connections to a $750-million empire that dominates the eastern UP. His tribe owns six casinos, more than any other American Indian tribe. But along the way, critics say Bouschor has piled up hundreds of millions of dollars in debt; rewarded his relatives with high-paying jobs; fired or silenced his opponents, and put white people in top jobs. While most tribal members who work for the casino or tribe make minimum wage and get no direct payments from tribal casinos, Bouschor has a salary of more than $850,000 as chief executive officer of the casinos. Until this year, his salary was secret. Revenue at the Greektown Casino lags behind the other Detroit casinos. Businesses the tribe started in the 1990s with much fanfare have failed and closed, including a neon firm and an auto supply company. Profits at the tribe's reservation casinos in the Upper Peninsula dipped last year. Nearly 40 percent of the funding for tribal programs still comes from thestate or federal government. Bouschor, mild-mannered and soft-spoken, said his opponents and critics would halt the tribe's progress. Payment's plan to drop the Romulus casino doesn't make sense because it will generate as much money as the Greektown Casino with half the debt, Bouschor said. "The caliber of individuals trying to replace me would destroy the tribe," he said. "They have no concept of the overall finances of the government and the casinos." Payment, 38, still lives in the reservation home he grew up in and that had no indoor plumbing until he was 15. He holds a master's degree in public administration and serves on the Greektown Casino management board. "Our revenue changed the perspective of some of the leaders," he said. "They lost touch with the average person in the tribe. I want to shift our focus back to the Indian values of meeting the needs of the neediest first." Payment said Bouschor fired him last summer from his job as the tribe's assistant executive director after the two clashed. Bouschor said Payment resigned. Payment said Bouschor rules by fear and retaliates against his opponents. Last month, Bouschor barred two Cheboygan brothers from tribal property for six months because one of them refused to stop speaking after asking a question at a board meeting. "He was being disruptive," Bouschor said of Clarence Hudac, who was escorted out of the meeting by tribal police. "He wouldn't give up the microphone." Hudac, who supports Payment, said he was trying to talk about the concerns of tribal members who live off the reservation and do not have their own representative on the tribal board. "I was trying to get him to answer questions people have," Hudac said. "I pleaded with him and he gaveled me out of order." Then, Hudac and his brother were served paperwork officially banning them. "I'm exiled," Hudac said. "Bouschor stepped over the line and went too far." At the same meeting, Bouschor supporters tried to remove Payment from the tribal board, charging him with various offenses. The petitioners withdrew the charges before an angry crowd. It was the seventh time Payment said he has faced removal. Removal of a member is done by the board itself, rather than by a vote of the people. Theresa DeLorme, Bouschor's former secretary, was one of those who tried to remove Payment. She wouldn't discuss that, but said she worked for Bouschor for 16 years and never saw any evidence of unethical behavior or wrongdoing. "He's a very bright man," she said. "He's been good for the tribe. Except for this internal fighting, our tribe is doing well." Some members say that they don't know where all the casino money goes and fear that their grandchildren will be saddled with debt. "The Greeks got all the money and we got the shaft," said Robert LaPoint, a tribal elder and board member. In 1999, the tribe agreed to pay its former Greektown partners Jim Papas and Ted Gatzaros about $265 million to leave the partnership because they could not get gaming licenses. The tribe should never have given the two men, who put up little capital, a 40-percent share of the casino, he said. As a board member, LaPoint said he often doesn't know about deals the tribe has made until they're already done. He said he read in the newspaper that the cost of the tribe's new permanent casino hotel in Detroit had grown to $450 million, when he had thought the cost was $350 million. He also found out about a casino the tribe once planned in Gaylord through the newspapers. Last summer, veteran tribal board member and former executive director Mike Lumsden was removed from the board, after Bouschor had already fired him. His offenses were said to have included election fraud, employee harassment and past domestic abuse. Testimony against him included hearsay and he was never criminally charged. Lumsden has said Bouschor targeted him because he disagreed with him about tribal finances and authority. Lumsden's father was the last chairman of the tribe before Bouschor. The removal, which is not appealable, caused a sharp rift. Other differences have potentially more serious consequences. Bouschor said that in January, he received two written letters demanding that he resign, or the writer would kill members of his family. The letters contained very specific information about where his family members lived, which most tribal members wouldn't know, he said. Tribe's political rift has statewide impact Tribe's political rift has statewide impact Tribe's political rift has statewide impact Tribe's political rift has statewide impact The FBI has not yet determined who wrote the letters, Bouschor said. Bouschor said opponents are misrepresenting him and what he has done for the tribe. Someday, he plans to step down -- just not yet, he said. "I don't consider myself a dictator," he said. "We're wasting energy with all this negativity. It's slowed us down. But if you look at other tribes, we're still far ahead." Contact TINA LAM at 313-223-4407 or lam@freepress.com.

    06/01/2004 03:09:39
    1. Information on Wawbogemaw and No ke che waw no quay
    2. Sue Payne
    3. We have been looking for No ke che waw no quay/ Julia Paundegaykawa who would have been born in the early 1800's and was married to Waw bo ge maw. By the estate notice we have, she died in about 1892 in Mescota, MI. Her children are listed as: Mary Williams, David Waw bo ge maw, Moses Waw bo ge maw, Mary Waw bo ge maw, Nancy Waw bo ge maw and Gab ash kun. Nancy Waw bo ge maw married my gg grandfather Edmund/ Penaysee Chatfield, Jan 24, 1874 in Nebising, Isabella Co., MI. Nancy was born Mar. 1854/9 in MI. When she married Edmund her last name was Hickey and also was referred to as Nancy Sajer. Could she have been married before Edmund at a very early age or was it just another name pulled out of the air? I would appreciate any information that might be out there in dissolving this wall. Thank you for any information that may lead us in the right direction of finding our ancestors. Sue --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger

    05/31/2004 09:20:22
    1. Re: NISHNAWBE-D Digest V04 #81
    2. In a message dated 5/31/2004 3:02:55 AM Central Daylight Time, NISHNAWBE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: From: JCUSTODIO@webtv.net (Juanita Custodio) Charles -- would you happen to know if there is a GEORGE A. SMITH on any of the Oneida rolls? Also looking for PACKARD (Picard, Pacaud, etc) or CLOUGH (Cluff, McClough, etc).......... Thank you..... Juanita Juanita, I have a some couple of Picards as well as a couple of Geo. Smith's. Do you have any dates or spouses to match these people? JW

    05/31/2004 05:42:44
    1. Lectures
    2. James P. LaLone
    3. This is to let people know that I will be giving talks on basic Michigan Indian (Nishnawbe) research and basic French-Canadian research on Saturday. October 23 at the LDS genealogy seminar in Bloomfield Hills, MI. Sorry I do not know the address of the stake there but will get back with you when I get more info. Jim.

    05/31/2004 04:38:31
    1. Smith Line
    2. Kim
    3. HI Charles, Just curious about your Smith's in Ionia County. Where in Ionia County were they? My Smith line, of which I know very little at this point, could be found in Orleans Twp. around that time. They were originally from Allegany Co., NY and settled in and around Montcalm, Gratiot, and Ionia Counties. Thanks, Kim

    05/31/2004 04:07:40
    1. SHARPE
    2. Anita Nelson
    3. Looking for Charmaine (Hebblin) Sharpe, Oregon. She was raised in Eckerman, Michigan. She is a half sister to the Lacoys, Greens, & Crawfords from Sault Ste. Marie. She is a cousin to the Cadreaus and me. If anyone of the cousins has heard from her, please have her contact me. Please. Anita Nelson anelson1@jamadots.com

    05/30/2004 03:13:43
    1. Re: [NISHNAWBE] Re: Oneida Smiths
    2. Charles Robinson
    3. The Alice Smith I have is a name on my great-grandmother's marriage license from Clare County, Michigan in 1873. She is not Nancy Alice Smith's mother. I am presuming that she might be a sister, or cousin. Nancy shows up in a white household with three siblings in Ionia County (1870 Census). At a time when whites did not name their first born child "Osceola" Alice Smith sticks out. I do not personally know any of the Smiths and all knowledge of the Smith's ended when my father died. The only information I have on Nancy Alice Smith is that she absconded from Osceola County in 1895 according to court documents. Hope this helps. Juanita Custodio <JCUSTODIO@webtv.net> wrote:Charles -- would you happen to know if there is a GEORGE A. SMITH on any of the Oneida rolls? Also looking for PACKARD (Picard, Pacaud, etc) or CLOUGH (Cluff, McClough, etc).......... Thank you..... Juanita ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

    05/30/2004 09:56:43
    1. Re: Oneida Smiths
    2. Juanita Custodio
    3. Charles -- would you happen to know if there is a GEORGE A. SMITH on any of the Oneida rolls? Also looking for PACKARD (Picard, Pacaud, etc) or CLOUGH (Cluff, McClough, etc).......... Thank you..... Juanita

    05/29/2004 11:32:14
    1. Re: [NISHNAWBE] Re: Chuck/Rix Robinson
    2. Charles Robinson
    3. Seth Robinson is my great-grandfather and I have exactly no information on him. He married an woman by the name of Chloe Bedor (could be Bedard) from Quebec and they immigrated to Montcalm County before 1880. Robinson was supposedly of Scotch ancestry but there is no proof of this matter. Bedor was either a Metis or a full-blooded Native. I also have Smiths from Ionia County, but I have little information on them except Alice Smith's signature on a marriage license from 1873 from Clare County. The Smiths were Oneidas from New York state. Alice's name appears on the original rolls for the tribe-my employer. Thanks McFarland <nmcfarl@racc2000.com> wrote:Sorry, I know this e-mail is old I am responding to but it got lost in my inbox! : ) Yes, Chuck Rix is one of the original Robinsons that settled in Michigan. He and his brother Edward (my line) came to Michigan from New York. There is quite a bit on him online. Both brothers are buried in Ada, Michigan just outside Gra! nd Rapids. What is your Robinson line in Michigan? Nancy in Michigan I keep hearing about Rix Robinson. Was he one of the original Robinsons in Michigan? Thanks, Chuck Robinson ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

    05/28/2004 04:40:45
    1. Re: Chuck/Rix Robinson
    2. Nancy McFarland
    3. Sorry, I know this e-mail is old I am responding to but it got lost in my inbox! : ) Yes, Chuck Rix is one of the original Robinsons that settled in Michigan. He and his brother Edward (my line) came to Michigan from New York. There is quite a bit on him online. Both brothers are buried in Ada, Michigan just outside Grand Rapids. What is your Robinson line in Michigan? Nancy in Michigan I keep hearing about Rix Robinson. Was he one of the original Robinsons in Michigan? Thanks, Chuck Robinson

    05/27/2004 06:11:35