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Hi All Just thought I would let everyone know the the Honor the Earth Pow Wow is this weekend. Located at Reserve Wisconsin, just outside of Hayward. That is about 45 miles south of Superior on the Lac Courte Orielles Reservation. Larry Friend (Black Buffalo) friend@2z.net

Hi All Does anyone know where I will find Boggy Creek and San Clara, Manitoba in the 1901 Canadian Census??? Thanks in advance Take care Stan

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I am trying to locate information on the following four children: Oliver, Nancy, Abraham, and LaFayette Smith. In the 1870 Census they were residing with the Hollenbeck family of Sebewa, Ionia County, Michigan. The Census for that year also lists a number of Smiths living in "Indian Town." There are a number of Smiths there without their given names (most have only their Christian names). Nancy Ella Smith was my great-grandmother.

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Hi Terry, Thanks for your update on the meeting. I appreciate it. It is exciting about the Soo Tribe including a genealogy component!! Yes, please keep up posted. Love Ya, BettyK ----- Original Message ----- From: <Trashound@aol.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:14 PM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Soo Genealogy Meeting recap > Boozhoo gang - just a short note to let you know about the meeting last > weekend up in the Soo. We had a small turnout as expected, but as usual we ate > well! Most of the attendees were of the Visnaw/Giroux families, so there was > lots of info swaping among them. > > We invited Art Leighton from the Soo tribe. He spoke with us about his plans > for the Cultural Division and he definately includes genealogy in his vision. > He also spoke about developing a living history village and an art gallery. > Also on hand was Beth Walsh, a researcher from the St. Mary's Catholic > Church, who spoke to us about the church's work in pulling info together to make a > CD on the church's records! No news on when that project will be completed or > exactly what records will be included. (St. Mary's has holdings from defunct > parishes in the eastern end of the UP, as well) > > We plan on having the 2005 meeting at the same time (weekend before the 4th) > at the same place. The Cultural Center is a very nice facility with room for > at least 300 and has its own kitchen and parking. It is directly across the > street from the pow wow grounds. I will be posting informative reminders in > the future. I hope more of you can pencil us in for next year's meeting. > Baamapii! Terry Weller > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > _____________________________________________________ > This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm > >

Boozhoo gang - just a short note to let you know about the meeting last weekend up in the Soo. We had a small turnout as expected, but as usual we ate well! Most of the attendees were of the Visnaw/Giroux families, so there was lots of info swaping among them. We invited Art Leighton from the Soo tribe. He spoke with us about his plans for the Cultural Division and he definately includes genealogy in his vision. He also spoke about developing a living history village and an art gallery.   Also on hand was Beth Walsh, a researcher from the St. Mary's Catholic Church, who spoke to us about the church's work in pulling info together to make a CD on the church's records!   No news on when that project will be completed or exactly what records will be included.  (St. Mary's has holdings from defunct parishes in the eastern end of the UP, as well)  We plan on having the 2005 meeting at the same time (weekend before the 4th) at the same place. The Cultural Center is a very nice facility with room for at least 300 and has its own kitchen and parking. It is directly across the street from the pow wow grounds. I will be posting informative reminders in the future. I hope more of you can pencil us in for next year's meeting. Baamapii! Terry Weller

Can anyone tell me how Chief Motay died down in mid to southern Indiana and where I might find information concerning his death? Mii gwech! Cindy

It is my understanding that for a child to attend the old non-reservation (Indian) schools, such as the one in Mt. Pleasant, Michigan, the Department of Indian Affairs used the following criteria for attending: A child living off reservation had to be at least 1/4 blood and certified by a disinterested party that the child was living as an Indian and a child living on the reservation having less then 1/4 blood could with special consideration attend. Does anyone have knowledge as to either the BIA or Tribal registrars are using the Indian school's criteria as supporting Blood quantum? Appreciate any information regarding this so as to clear the question from my mind. Thanks, Maryalice Weller

The Penetanguishene List of the Drummond Islanders (1815-1828) by Gidley/Patterson says: #1960 Edouard Boisvert (M) RC Civilian M-*2212 Marguerite "Shagocoui" 1. #8648 Edouard NOS N= Ste Anne's Baptismal Registers, Penetang 0 = Original Personnel Records S= Settler before 1837 #2212 Marguerite "Shagocoui" (F) RC M - #1960 Edouard Boisvert 1 = #8648 Edouard INS I = North American Indian N and S see above Edouard Boisvert, son of Edouard Boisvert and Margueritte Shagocoui, baptised Jan 19 1836 age 10 mos. Sponsors Joseph Matte and Scholastique Lalonde. Hopefully someone can find what Indian tribe my great-great grandmother belong to. Contact paul_petosky@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish.

Here are some more women by the name of Sebequay, wondering if any may be the same? Anyway, additions and corrections appreciated, thanks, Jim. Family #3: 1. Daniel AGOSA, born 28 Jul 1811 in Peshabestown, Leelanau Co., MI, died 28 Nov 1881 in Leelanau, Leelanau Co., MI. 1870 Durant #6-42 Daniel Aw-ko-we-say 1/1/2 1880 Leelanau census age 68. 1870 Fed census, Bingham Twp., Leelanau Co., MI #115-109 Daniel Agosse 55 MI farmer Sebekwa " 50 MI Antonia " 10 MI (sic-male) Sophia " 18 MI Mitchell " 28 MI Margaret " 20 MI . He married Mary Ann SEBEKWA, born 1813/20 in Bingham, Leelanau Co., MI, died 28 Nov 1881 in Bingham, Leelanau Co., MI. Mary: death age 68y 3 months. She might be a third wife? Children: i Margaret Agosa, born 1850. ii Sophia AGOSA, born 1852. 2. iii Michael b. 1843/57. iv Antonia Agosa, born 1860. v George AGOSA, born c. 1869 in Peshabestown, Leelanau Co., MI, died 16 Dec 1881 in Peshabestown, Leelanau Co., MI. Or died Bingham. Second Generation 2. Michael AGOSA, Also known as Michael AW-KO-WE-SAY, born 1843/57 in Peshabestown, Leelanau Co., MI, died 14 Dec 1881 in Bingham, Leelanau Co., MI. death age 38y 11m called Mitchell b. 1842 in 1870 Leelanau called Michael b. 1857 in 1880 Leelanau. Durant #36-43. He married Margaret _____. Margaret: ? nee Kaw--we-taw-o-say (Durant #8-41). Children: i George AGOSA, born 1872. 3. ii Mary Ann b. 1874. iii Agatha AGOSA, born 1877. iv Francis AGOSA, born Jul 1879. Third Generation 3. Mary Ann AGOSA, born 1874. marriage age 18. She married Jasper/Caspar MIKSINAUG/MIX(CE)MONG, 23 May 1893 in Provemont, Leelanau Co., MI, born 12 Feb 1867 in Cross Village, Emmet Co., MI, (son of Joseph MIXMONG/ME-GE-SE-MONG/MIKSIMANG and Philomena NISSAWAKWAT). Jasper/Caspar: Durant #42-21. Children: i William MIXMONG. Family #4: 1. Nancy/Se-be-quay NANOMMADAWBA, born c. 1806/10, (daughter of Old-Rock/NANOMMADAWBA and unknown) died Jul 1875 in Ada, Kent Co., MI, buried in Ada Cem., Kent Co., MI. Aka River Woman/Sipp-daw-ba/Sippi-quay. Father also listed as Hazy Cloud. MRS RIX ROBINSON The relict of the late Hon. Rix Robinson died at Ada, April 3rd. Mrs Robinson was on her mother's side of Indian decent, the grand daughter of one of the great Chiefs of the Ottawa tribe - the orginal lords of thes country. She had, previous to her marriage to Mr. R, been an inmate of the family of the Rev. Leonard Slater, the Baptist missionary at the Rapids of Grand River. Mrs. R. Was a woman of considerable mental ability, and of very great power of will, and manifested in some exigencies of her frontier life remarkable courage and determination. Yet in the ordinary course of domestic affairs she appeaared to all a kind and hospitable matron, and was the object of respect from the white and of love from the red residents of the valley. No children had ever been born to her, John R. Being the son of Mr. Robinson's first wife. She is to be buried at Ada, this morning; but with a view, as we are informed , to a removal of her remains hereafter to an acient ecmetery of the Ottawa Indians. [Daily Morning Times, Grand Rapids, Mich, Thursday, April 6, 1876] . She married (1) Waubiwidigo/White-Giant, died 1837. Waubiwi: Chippewa chief. Wobiwidigo/Wobindego/Wobskindip. Children: 2. i John b. c.1833. She married (2) Rix ROBINSON, born 28 Aug 1789 in Richmond, Berkshire Co., MA, (son of Edward ROBINSON and Eunice RIX) died 13/9 Jan 1875 in Kent Co., MI, occupation fur trader. Rix: Source: http://r2d2.cochise.cc.az.us/vondestinon/family/rix.htm Rix Robinson (1789-1875) Rix Robinson was said to be 6 foot 6 inches tall. Ed Niles, born in 1907: "My dad said Rix was a big, tall man." Mrs. Josephine Burt, who came to Ada in 1854 at age three, recalled: "He was a big man, with a curly beard and curly white hair." Seigal, Jane, A Snug Little Place: Memories of Ada, Michigan 1821-1930 Biography Rix Robinson: Sojourner or Settler Seigal, Jane, A Snug Little Place: Memories of Ada, Michigan 1821-1930, pub. by Ada Historical Society, 1993. Charles C. Chapman, in "A History of Kent County" (1881), describes Robinson as a "sojourner, not a settler" -- and in this way he was most like the Indians. "Being a person without rights, and at the sufferance of the Indians, he can scarcely be called for many years a settler, but rather a sojourner....He identified himself with the Indians for purposes of trade" (Michigan History, Dec 1959, p 487). Robinson did more than identify with the Indians; he earned their trust and friendship. He married two Indian women, the first in 1821. Pee-miss-a-quot-o-quay, or "Flying Cloud Woman," was an Ottawa chief's daughter and a lineal descendant of the great chief Pontiac. The marriage lasted the minimum of "100 moons," after which time Robinson's Indian wife left. His second wife was also an Ottawa, named Se-be-quay, or Sippy Quay "River Woman," and was with him until he died in 1875. Robinson was rumored to have two "squaw wives" simultaneously, and there were some who said five Indian women lived with Robinson at one time. According to Indian custom, and to promote negotiations with different tribes, Robinson lived a certain number of moons with each wife. Some also said Robinson had a home and a white wife in Grand Rapids, and another up north. But with all these alleged unions, Robinson had only one child -- a son, named John. The Indians also gave Robinson an Ottawa name, "Wabesha," meaning a marten, an animal renowned among the Indians for both its valuable fur and its courage. But perhaps the most important evidence of Robinson's relationship with the Indians was the manner in which he lived his life after the Washington Treaty. Robinson returned to the station at the Grand and Thornapple Rivers and chose to stay living among the Indians. And he remained a negotiator for them throughout his life. In 1834, Robinson closed his last trading post, one mile down the Grand River from the mouth of the Thornapple. He then began an impressive career of public service, which included membership in the Constitutional Convention of Michigan of 1850, a circuit court judgeship, and a State Senatorial seat. He was an important figure in revising the state constitution and was an advocate of woman suffrage. Popular myth has it that Robinson would have been governor, but for his shy Indian wife and the intolerance of white society. By 1862, Robinson retired from public life; he is listed in township records of that year as "running a general store." On January 13, 1875, Rix Robinson died of "dropsy," most likely congestive heart failure, at this home at 7185 Headley in Ada. It is unclear where he was buried; some say down on the flats, the river bottom land he loved, while others say he is buried in Ada Cemetery. A monument to Robinson in the cemetery -- land which Robinson sold to the Ada Township Board of Health -- bears the following inscription: "Brave, Honest, Patriotic, A Loving Husband and Father, A Friend of the Indians, Their Negotiator with the Government, and a Peace Maker, Indian Trader on Grand River, 1821; Supervisor Township of Kent, 1834; Supervisor Township of Ada, 1840; associate Judge of Circuit Court for Kent County, 1844; State Senator, 1854; State Commissioner of Internal Improvements, 1846; Member of State Constitutional Convention, 1850." The home of Rix Robinson in Ada Michigan about 1909. Years after it was torn down the property was acquired by the Amway Company and their national Headquarters is now built upon the site. FUNERAL OBSEQUIES AT ADA OF THE VENERABLE PIONEER, RIX ROBINSON OBITUARY Funeral Obsequies of Hon. Rix Robinson at Ada. Special Dispatch to the Grand Rapids Eagle. Ada Mich. Jan 13 - The funeral obsequies of the late Hon. Rix Robinson were of the most solomn and impressive kind. The attendance was large and the Methodist Church was crowded to overflowing. The Old Settlers' Society of Kent County, of which deceased was President, was represented by about forty members. Leading citizens of Grand Haven were present and the Rix Robinson Fire Company of that place were..... The sermon was preached by....... Whitman of Alaska. An eloquent .....was paid by Hon. T. B. Chruch who alluded to the public services of deceased as Judge of the County, Commissioner of Public Works and Member of the State Legislature. Mr Edward. P. Ferry of Grand Haven followed with an appropriate attestation of the honesty and true friedship of "Uncle Rix". Many of the pioneeres of Ada, Cascade and Vergeanes were present and the occasion was one of great solemnity. [From Grand Rapids Eagle, found at Grand Rapids Library, Grand Rapids, Michigan] . Second Generation 2. John GESICK/SHAGWOGO/KEZHICK, born c.1833, died Oct 1933 in Thompsonville, Benzie Co., MI. Aka Alexander GESICK/John ALEXANDER. Durant #4-50. Father's name given as "White Giant" (see Saginaw Daily News, 26 Oct 1933). Also listed as son of Cobmoosa & Ah-ne-me-ga/Onnemegae (a dau. of White Giant, so he may have been adopted by Cobmoosa). He married Elizabeth BEVINS, born c.1862 in MI, (daughter of Joseph BEVINS and Marion NAWGEE). Elizabeth: Libbie in 1880 census. Children: 3. i Angeline b. c. 1873/7. ii Julia GESICK/GEZICK/KEZHICK, born c.1885. 4. iii Lucy b. c.1888. iv Sullivan/Jack GESICK/GEZICK/KEZHICK, born c.1889/90. May be two different children. v Tice GESICK/GEZICK/KEZHICK, born c.1891/2. vi Waso GESICK/GEZICK/KEZHICK, born c.1893/4. vii Nancy GESICK/GEZICK/KEZHICK, born c.1898/9. viii Thomas GESICK/GEZICK/KEZHICK, born c.1902. Third Generation 3. Angeline GESICK/GEZICK/KEZHICK, born c. 1873/7 in MI. She married (1) unknown. unknown: Listed as John ALEXANDER or Alexander GESICK for father of Agnes. Children: i Cecelia GEZICK, born c. 1891. ii Agnes GESICK/PERSON, born c.1893, died 1942. She married Levi TOPASH, 16 __ 1913, born 3 Oct 1889 in Silver Creek, Cass Co., MI, (son of Thomas TOPASH and Mary PARSONS) baptized 13 Oct 1889 in Silver Creek, Cass Co., MI, died Sept 1949. She married (2) Peter PERSON/PARSON, born c. 1870/2 in MI, (son of Levi PARSONS/PERSON and Elizabeth AEAECHI). Peter: Did he also marry Angeline RAPP?? 4. Lucy GESICK/GEZICK/KEZHICK, born c.1888. She married Joe BAKER. Children: i _____ BAKER, born 1908.

I would like to find out if my great-great grandmother Marguerite KATAHIUJENJ (Indian) is from the Sault Sainte Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians. She was married in Sault Sainte Marie, MI (Chippewa County) on 15 February 1832 to Edward BOISVERT. Rev. A. Kohler, S.J., officiating, in the presence of Francois Desnoyer and Placidus Ord. I have the certified copy in the old script of the marriage and a marriage certificate. The 1850 Inhabitants of Chippewa County, show that Edward Boisvert was age 60. He was born 1789 in Canada. He died at the age of 95 in 1884. Marguerite was age 45 (born around 1805 also in Canada). Their children were Catherine, age 17 yrs born in Canada); Edward, age 14 yrs; Tulica, age 12; Joseph?, age 10; Mary, age 8; all born in Michigan. Would greatly appreciate if anyone has any information as to what tribe she came from. Thanks for all your help. Kindly contact Paul E. Petosky at paul_petosky@yahoo.com _____ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. _____ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail w_mail/static/efficiency.html> - 100MB free storage! _____ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail _mail/static/efficiency.html> - Send 10MB messages! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage!

I have at least three women with this name, one without husband or children and perhaps one or two others that are under another name but I will have to find them. Anyway, additions or corrections appreciated on these women and their families, thanks, Jim. Family #1: 1. unknown. He married Pi-tawnaw. Children: 2. i Ne-Gaw-Nay-Be b. c.1823. 3. ii Jackson b. c. 1825. iii David SHAW-WAW-NE-KE-ZHICK, born c. 1828. Married. 4. iv Kashkey/Ogaw-skay. v Se-Be-Quay. She married Awaw-Zhaw. vi O-Shaw-Gun. She married Shaw-Waw-Wis. vii Shaw-Waw-Nos. Did she m. Aish-daw-naw-quot (see Gruett, p.1)? Second Generation 2. Ne-Gaw-Nay-Be, born c.1823, died bef. 1855. He married unknown. Children: i Ne-Be-No-Quay. ii Aw-Waw-Gnaw-Be-Quay. 3. Jackson AW-BE-TAW-KE-ZHICK, born c. 1825. Married. Is this Frank JACKSON? Gruett, p.9. He married Shaw-waw-naw-baw-no-quay, died bef 1855. Children: i Quay-ke-ge-zhick, born c. 1838. She married Ke-was-de-mo-quay, born c. 1843. ii Ke-de-waw-washe/Ke-che-waw-waw-she, born c. 1837, died 1865/6. Gruett, p. 117. He married Kaw-be-waw-so-way-quay, died 1865. iii Ke-we-quo-aw-mo-quay, born c. 1841. She had a daughter, b. c. 1867. iv Naw-ge-waw, born c. 1843. v Paw-daw-ne-quot-way-be, born c. 1847. vi Kay-o-quo-um, born c. 1849. vii Ne-she-kay-pe-nay-se, born c. 1851. viii Ne-gaw-na-be, born c. 1861. 4. Kashkey/Ogaw-skay. She married John OKEMOS, born c.1818 in MI, died 4 Mar 1899 in Nottawa, Isabella Co., MI. John: Aka Pay-me-chi-way-daw-dung (Gruett, p.243). Children: i Kin-ne-wa-penay-se OKEMOS, born c. 1848. One of the others? ii May-squaw-naw-quot-way-be OKEMOS, born c. 1850/8. One of the others? iii Charles OGEMAS, born c. 1859 in Lapeer Co., MI, died 13 Nov 1885 in Nottawa, Isabella Co., MI. Aka Ke-new-o-bin-nais. He married Nancy/Pena-swan-coto-qua _____, born in MI. iv Was-sa-ge-zhick OKEMOS. v Ap-de-ya-by OKEMOS. vi Wa-sa-on OKEMOS. Unsure of her. Family #2: 1. unknown. He married Se-be-quay. Se-be-q: Durant #8-51. Children: 2. i Mary. Second Generation 2. Mary _____. She married (1) John SMITH. John: Durant #7-55. Children: i Martha SMITH, born c. 1863. She married _____ ALEXANDER. 3. ii Joseph b. c. 1869. iii Matilda SMITH, born c. 1877. She married (2) Amos FITCH/AH-BE-NAE-BE, (son of Ah-be-naw-be and Mary MISHE-GAY-KAKE-QUAY). Amos: Adopted by Joseph ELLIOTT. Children: iv Thomas FITCH, born c. 1890. v Nancy FITCH, born c. 1893. Did she m. James SEAMON? vi Elvina FITCH, born 29 Mar 1894, baptized 6 Jun 1913 in Fern, Mason Co., MI. Third Generation 3. Joseph SMITH, born c. 1869. He married Annie ME-TAY-WIS/MEDAVIS, Also known as Paw-chaw-ban, born c. 1877, (daughter of Joe ME-TAY-WIS and Theresa DE-NO-QUAY). Children: i Elizabeth SMITH, born c. 1895. ii Rosie SMITH, born c. 1899. iii Agnes SMITH, born c. 1902. iv Moses SMITH, born c. 1904. v David SMITH, born c. 1905.

Additions/corrections to the below genealogy appreciated, thanks, Jim. 1. Thomas L. VALIER, born c. 1794 in CAN, occupation carpenter. 1850 Mackinac Co. Fed census #258-261. 1870 Fed. census Moran Twp., Mackinac Co., MI #48-48. Thomas L. Valiere 79 CAN farmer Josette " 50 MI Thomas " 21 MI Alice " 23 MI. He married Josette _____, born c. 1814 in WI. Josette: Poss a 2nd wife? Durant #28-13. Only children, James & Thomas mentioned on her field notes. Children: i Elizabeth VALLIER, born c. 1833/4 in MI. She married Joseph BLANCHARD, May 1851 in Mackinac Co., MI, born 25 Jan/Jun 1823 in MI, (son of Isaac BLANCHARD and Mary BABBEAU/BIBEAU) baptized 1829 in Ste-Anne's, Mackinac Is., Mackinac Co., died 29/30 Apr 1880 in Moran, Mackinac Co., MI, occupation fisherman. Joseph: Or b. 25 Jun 1828 per Y. Hogue-Peer. ii Sophia VALIER, born c. 1836. Poss m. to CHEESEMAN. 2. iii Samuel b. c. 1824/37. 3. iv William b. c. 1838. v Mary A. VALIER, born c. 1840. vi Jane VALIER, born c. 1845. 4. vii James b. c. 1847. viii Alice VALIER, born c. 1847. 5. ix Thomas b. c. 1848. Second Generation 2. Samuel VALLIER, born c. 1824/37 in MI, died 19 May 1892 in St. Ignace, Mackinac Co., MI, occupation fisherman. Durant #5-15. 3 ch. in 1870. 1870 fed. census, Moran Twp., Mackinac Co., MI #4-4 Samuel VALLAIRE 55 MI fisherman Margaret " 45 IL James N. " 5 MI John " 4 MI Thomas " 1 MI. He married Margaret ABBOTT, 21 Apr 1858 in Moran Twp., Mackinac Co., MI, married (religious) 12 Dec 1858 in St. Ignatius of Loyola, St. Ignace, MI, born 27 Jul 1829 in IL?, (daughter of Samuel ABBOTT and Mary Bridgett LaCROIX) died 14/20 Oct 1894 in St. Ignace, Mackinac Co., MI, buried in Gros Cap Cem., Mackinac Co., MI. Margaret: Also listed as having d. 22 Jun 1862; how could she have had all those Vallier children if she died four years after marriage. May have been two Margarets??? Children: 6. i James N. b. c. 1858/9. 7. ii John b. c. 1862. iii William VALLIER. M. to Rosalie PAQUIN per Betty K. (perhaps the one who m. 1876 to Julienne MARTINEAU??) Is he the one who m. 1871 to Rosalie LAJOICE? 8. iv Joseph Isaac b. c. 1868. v Margaret VALLIER. vi Mary VALLIER. vii Edward VALIER, born c. 1870 in MI. viii Thomas VALIER, born c. 1871 in MI, died 31 Sept 1894 in St. Ignace, Mackinac Co., MI, occupation laborer. Listed as single on DR. He married Madeleine PAQUIN, 23 Nov 1891 in (lic.), Mackinac Co., MI, born c. 1873 in St. Ignace, Mackinac Co., MI, (daughter of Frank/Francis PAQUIN and Mary _____). ix Joseph VALLIER, born c. 1873 in MI. 9. x Henry b. c. 1875. 3. William VALLIER, Also known as VALLIERE, born c. 1838 in MI. a William VALLIERE @22 m. 17 Feb 1851 Mack Co. to Rosita PAQUIN @16. Unsure of parentage & marriages. 1870 Fed census, St. Ignace., Mackinac Co., MI #36-36 William Valliere 42 MI fisherman Rosalie " 33 CAN Antoine " 18 MI Rosine " 15 MI William " 14 MI Josephine " 11 MI John " 10 MI Leandre " 8 MI Joseph " 6 MI. He married Rosalie _____, born c. 1837. Rosalie: Poss. surnamed PAQUIN (see Betty K's email). Children: i Antoine VALLIER, born c. 1852 in MI. He married Lucie MARTINEAU, 10 May 1872 in Mackinac Co., MI, born c. 1856 in St. Ignace, Mackinac Co., MI, (daughter of Oliver MARTINEAU and Marie McGULPIN). ii Rosine VALLIERE, born c. 1855 in MI. iii William VALLIER, born Sept 1856/61 in MI, died 27 Oct 1936. Is he the one who m. 1871 to Rosalie LAJOICE? He married Julian(ne) MARTINEAU, 8 May 1876 in Mackinac Co., MI, born c. 1861 in MI, (daughter of Oliver MARTINEAU and Marie McGULPIN) died 21 Nov 1928 in St. Ignace, Mackinac Co., MI. Julian(ne): Unsure of these marriages. iv Josephine VALLIERE, born c. 1859 in MI. v John VALLIERE, born c. 1860 in MI. vi Leandre VALLIERE, born 1862 in MI. vii Joseph VALLIERE, born c. 1864 in MI. 4. James VALLIER, born c. 1847. He married Euphrosine/Franzine LaJOICE, 13 May 1868 in Mackinac Co., MI, born c. 1846 in MI/CAN, (daughter of Louis BARIL(LE)-LAJOICE/LASHAWAY and Mary LAVAKE/LEVESQUE) baptized 11 Dec 1846 in Owen Sound, Ont., CAN, died 29 Nov 1905 in St. Ignace, Mackinac Co., MI. Children: i Mary VALLIER, born c. 1870 in MI, died 8 Jul 1873 in Moran, Mackinac Co., MI. ii Jane VALLIER, born 1872, died 10 Feb 1873 in Moran, Mackinac Co., MI. 10. iii Frank b. c. 1877. 11. iv John B. b. 7 Feb 1880. v Mary VALLIER, born c. 1887 in MI, died 25 Jul 1888 in Epoufette, Mackinac Co., MI. vi Joe VALLAIR, born c. 1887. vii Olivier A. VALLAIR, born c. 1889. 5. Thomas VALIER Jr., born c. 1848. He married unknown. unknown: White. Children: i Thomas VALLAIR, born c. 1872. ii Martha VALLAIR, born c. 1874. She married _____ WARD. Third Generation 6. James N. VALLIER, born c. 1858/9 in IL. He married unknown. Children: i Maggie VALLIER, born c. 1887. She married _____ GAMBLE. 7. John VALLIER, born c. 1862 in IL. He married unknown. Children: i Alexander VALLIER, born c. 1888. ii Addie VALLIER, born c. 1890. iii Albert VALLIER, born c. 1896. iv Bertha VALLIER, born c. 1902. 8. Joseph Isaac VALLIER, born c. 1868 in MI. He married unknown. Children: i Willard VALLIER, born c. 1893. ii Victor VALLIER, born c. 1896. 9. Henry VALLIER, born c. 1875 in MI. He married Anna Eustasia LAMYOTTE, 4 Jun 1896 in St. Ignace, Mackinac Co., MI, born 14 Mar 1877 in St. Ignace, Mackinac Co., MI, (daughter of George LAMYOTTE/AMIOTT and Angeline/Maggie ROBINSON). Children: i Benjamin VALLIER. ii David VALLIER. iii Aloysius VALLIER. He married Irene MASSAWAY, born c. 1905, (daughter of Gaspar MASSAWAY and Josephine LeDUKE). iv Elvina VALLIER. She married (1) William McCAULEY. She married (2) Jack DODDS. 12. v Marybelle. 10. Frank VALLIER, born c. 1877. He married Lottie MACHIE, born c. 1875 in WI, died 30 Dec 1955. Children: i Clarence VALLIER, born c. 1906, died 10 Feb 1958. He married Rena _____. ii Ellsworth VALLIER. 11. John B. VALLIER, born 7 Feb 1880 in Epoufette, Mackinac Co., MI, died 18 Dec 1961, buried in Gros Cap Cem., Mackinac Co., MI. He married Edith THERRIEN, 11 Jan 1904, born 1 Aug 1887, (daughter of Louis THERRIAN and Josephine SENECAL). Children: 13. i Bernice. ii Joan VALLIER, occupation R.N. Fourth Generation 12. Marybelle VALLIER. She married Fred Henry BOUCHA, 8 Nov 1923 in Mackinac Co., MI, born 5 Feb 1895 in Pine River, Mackinac Co., MI, (son of Edward BOUCHER/BOUCHA and Catherine"Kate" ANCE) died 11 May 1969 in Oregon, Lucas Co., OH, military: WWII. Children: i Fred Henry BOUCHA Jr., born 20 May 1924 in St. Ignace, Mackinac Co., MI, died 29 Dec 1990 in Toledo, Lucas Co., OH. 13. Bernice VALLIER. She married (1) Ernest K. STAUFFER. Children: i John STAUFFER. ii Joyce STAUFFER. She married (1) William PHILLIPS. She married (2) Alex HALITSKY. She married (2) Roy BELL. Children: iii Roberta BELL. She married Gary PAQUIN.

Looking for birth record for Daniel F. Gray. Believed to be native. Obit, written family history, and death certificate says he was born in Waterbury, VT. Have searched at both Waterbury and Middlesex, VT. Not there. The 1860 and 1870 census shows him in Altona, NY with his family, Mary Mead, wife, and children, Hattie, Alice, Henry, and Ettie. He was born most likely 1815-1816 as his death certificate, found in St. Albans, VT, says death was in Aug. 1900 and he was 84. However, the different census all give different dates. From 1815 to 1831. New Hampshire Marriage records online give me the clue of: "Altona NY, first marriages, by Joseph H. Brown clergyman, 25 Jul 1883 at Haverhill; groom's parents George & Caroline B. Morse, both born Haverhill; bride's Daniel & Mary Mead Gray both B. Altona NY. " Just called Altona and was told the town hall burned and records were lost. Can anyone help with a census or native rolls concerning these Grays? Thank you, Lynn

Hi Stan I'm Cindy Leutz and am the Administrator for the Drummond Island/Penetang web page through MyFamily with Ancestry.Com. The site can only be accessed by invite only. If you would like to become a member of this group, simply e-mail me "off this list" at Rootdancer@SBCglobal.net and I will gladly add you to our membership. I am working on the Vasseur/St. Onge dit Letard lines as well and have done extensive research on them. Would love to compare notes. Also, Terry and I co-host the Mackinac Co. web page sponsored through the American Local History Network at http://www.rootsweb.com/~mimacki2/page1.html Please respond to this off this site as these pages are archived and we do not want to take up space. Thanks so much Cindy Stanley Hulme <nanitort@shaw.ca> wrote: Hi Terry If the group that studies the Drummond Islanders and their movement to Penetanguishene have a web site could you let me know. I just finished working on two files where the ancestry was from the same group. One was descended from Jean-Baptiste Thudeaux (Trudeau) and the other from Jacques Vasseur and Joseph St. Onge dit Latard listed in the "List of Voyageurs from Drummond Island" posted at http://www3.sympatico.ca/sneakers/list.htm Take care Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 8:52 AM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Genealogy Meeting > Boozhoo gang! I know its short notice but I wanted to make an announcement > about a genealogy meeting we have organized at the Soo with another research > group I'm in. This group studies the Drummond Islanders to Penetanguishene > voyageurs and their families (as well at Great Lakes Indian/metis families). > Anyway, the meeting will be an informal swap of information at the Community > Center of the Soo Tribe on Saturday, June 26 from about 9 til ? It is located > near the Pow Wow grounds. Follow the road to the Big Bear (Chi Mukwa) > Recreational Facility go past the facility and follow around the big curve toward the > pow wow grounds and the center is there. > > If you would like to attend please let me know BY EMAILING ME PRIVATELY AT > trashound@aol.com and NOT ON THE NISHNAWBE page by Friday, June 18th > > We need to know approximately how many will attend. If we dont get a > sufficient response we will cancel the center and meet at a smaller venue. There > will be a pot luck lunch, so if you are planning on attending please bring a > dish, salad, luncheon meats, cheeses, etc., to pass. We are making arrangements > for a copier and will take donations for its rental. Again, I apologize for > the short notice. I know June can be a hectic month with graduations and > weddings, but we'll have a good time, meet with new cousins, and hopefully get thru > some brick walls. Hope to see you there! Aho! Baamaapii! Terry Weller ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hi Terry If the group that studies the Drummond Islanders and their movement to Penetanguishene have a web site could you let me know. I just finished working on two files where the ancestry was from the same group. One was descended from Jean-Baptiste Thudeaux (Trudeau) and the other from Jacques Vasseur and Joseph St. Onge dit Latard listed in the "List of Voyageurs from Drummond Island" posted at http://www3.sympatico.ca/sneakers/list.htm Take care Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: <Trashound@aol.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 8:52 AM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Genealogy Meeting > Boozhoo gang! I know its short notice but I wanted to make an announcement > about a genealogy meeting we have organized at the Soo with another research > group I'm in. This group studies the Drummond Islanders to Penetanguishene > voyageurs and their families (as well at Great Lakes Indian/metis families). > Anyway, the meeting will be an informal swap of information at the Community > Center of the Soo Tribe on Saturday, June 26 from about 9 til ? It is located > near the Pow Wow grounds. Follow the road to the Big Bear (Chi Mukwa) > Recreational Facility go past the facility and follow around the big curve toward the > pow wow grounds and the center is there. > > If you would like to attend please let me know BY EMAILING ME PRIVATELY AT > trashound@aol.com and NOT ON THE NISHNAWBE page by Friday, June 18th > > We need to know approximately how many will attend. If we dont get a > sufficient response we will cancel the center and meet at a smaller venue. There > will be a pot luck lunch, so if you are planning on attending please bring a > dish, salad, luncheon meats, cheeses, etc., to pass. We are making arrangements > for a copier and will take donations for its rental. Again, I apologize for > the short notice. I know June can be a hectic month with graduations and > weddings, but we'll have a good time, meet with new cousins, and hopefully get thru > some brick walls. Hope to see you there! Aho! Baamaapii! Terry Weller

Boozhoo gang! I know its short notice but I wanted to make an announcement about a genealogy meeting we have organized at the Soo with another research group I'm in. This group studies the Drummond Islanders to Penetanguishene voyageurs and their families (as well at Great Lakes Indian/metis families). Anyway, the meeting will be an informal swap of information at the Community Center of the Soo Tribe on Saturday, June 26 from about 9 til ? It is located near the Pow Wow grounds. Follow the road to the Big Bear (Chi Mukwa) Recreational Facility go past the facility and follow around the big curve toward the pow wow grounds and the center is there. If you would like to attend please let me know BY EMAILING ME PRIVATELY AT trashound@aol.com and NOT ON THE NISHNAWBE page by Friday, June 18th We need to know approximately how many will attend. If we dont get a sufficient response we will cancel the center and meet at a smaller venue. There will be a pot luck lunch, so if you are planning on attending please bring a dish, salad, luncheon meats, cheeses, etc., to pass. We are making arrangements for a copier and will take donations for its rental. Again, I apologize for the short notice. I know June can be a hectic month with graduations and weddings, but we'll have a good time, meet with new cousins, and hopefully get thru some brick walls. Hope to see you there! Aho! Baamaapii! Terry Weller

In a message dated 6/12/2004 1:04:22 AM Central Daylight Time, NISHNAWBE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: E. Henry FOWLER Self M Male NA 32 WI Farm NY NY A. Emily FOWLER Wife M Female NA 26 WI Keep House NY ENG L. Elma FOWLER Dau S Female NA 7 WI Home WI WI G. David SMITH Other W Male NA 69 NY Farm VA CT Census Place Brothertown, Calumet, Wisconsin Family History Library Film 1255418 NA Film Number T9-1418 Page Number 20D Larry, First of all, I do not know if he even had a middle name. But this family is Henry Eugene Fowler and his wife Emily Amelia Sampson, with daughter Elma Lorraine Fowler. I know of no relation to the Smith's with either Henry or Emily. The George Smith b/ abt.1820; d/ abt. 1892; m/ Katherine Denny and had daughters: Lydia and Jane (Jane m/ Henry Wheelock, 1887) and sons : Nicholas and Wilbur This is all I have on this George Smith. I don't know of a G. David Smith, sorry. JW