Anita Here is what I have on the Ermatinger farmily. If you take it back father it will take you to Richard Ermatimger who came to the New World as history protriats it... on the May Flower Ship.. William Ermationger-Armatinger Dob Mar 1833 Michigan married Angeline born Aug 1846 children are: 1. Edward born 1862 farmer 2. Thomas born 1868 3. Mary L. born May 1878 4, Geo born 1863 died Jan 21 1929 married Mabel Jondrow born 1885 died Jan 29 1924 Mabel died during child birth at the age of 39 and was known as Aunt Dosie they had 3 children John,Abner and baby boy who died with Mabel 5. William born Nov 1872 married Dora Jones 6. Maria born Mar 1881 married Benjamin Liberty in 1898 7. Catherine who married ? Sterling Catherine was born Mar 1863 and died Feb 23 192 8. Frank Sept 1876 Notes for Benjamin Liberty and Maria Ermatinger Benjamin was born Sept 1868 in Canda Ben and Marie had the following children Benjamin Charles Leuara maybe Laura Leonard William and Dora had the following children Norman Irene Mary Mabel Jondreau-Johndrow dau of Henry and Alice Lacallie-Lacoy Vicki Moorhead

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2223&item=6128701 260&rd=1 Clint -----Original Message----- From: Michippewa2@aol.com [mailto:Michippewa2@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:36 PM To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Ermatinger=Armatinger Anita Here is what I have on the Ermatinger farmily. If you take it back father it will take you to Richard Ermatimger who came to the New World as history protriats it... on the May Flower Ship.. William Ermationger-Armatinger Dob Mar 1833 Michigan married Angeline born Aug 1846 children are: 1. Edward born 1862 farmer 2. Thomas born 1868 3. Mary L. born May 1878 4, Geo born 1863 died Jan 21 1929 married Mabel Jondrow born 1885 died Jan 29 1924 Mabel died during child birth at the age of 39 and was known as Aunt Dosie they had 3 children John,Abner and baby boy who died with Mabel 5. William born Nov 1872 married Dora Jones 6. Maria born Mar 1881 married Benjamin Liberty in 1898 7. Catherine who married ? Sterling Catherine was born Mar 1863 and died Feb 23 192 8. Frank Sept 1876 Notes for Benjamin Liberty and Maria Ermatinger Benjamin was born Sept 1868 in Canda Ben and Marie had the following children Benjamin Charles Leuara maybe Laura Leonard William and Dora had the following children Norman Irene Mary Mabel Jondreau-Johndrow dau of Henry and Alice Lacallie-Lacoy Vicki Moorhead ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Paul Petosky <paul_petosky@yahoo.com> wrote:Hi Everyone: I am trying to solve a mystery possibly somebody can help me out on. First of all my ggg grandparents are Edouard Boisvert and Marquerite (Shagocoui). They were married in Sault Sainte Marie, MI on February 15, 1832. Edouard was born in 1790 in Canada and Marquerite was born also in Canada in 1805. In the 1850 Chippewa County Census it shows Edward Boisvert (Boisant) age 60, Marquerite 45, Catherine 17, Edward 14, Julia 12, Joseph 10 and Mary 8. My problem is: I cannot find any records showing my ggg grandmother Marquerite Shagocoui's place of birth or place of death, nor can I find out who her parents were. She appears on the 1870 Annuity roll of the Ottawa & Chippewa Indians as Mrs. Edward Bois-bair, Ref. 34-3, SSM. Edward Bosvert, appears as mixed blood Ref. #85 on 1855 Annuity roll of the Ottawa & Chippewa Indians. Now the real cliff hanger: What relationship is Angeline (Boisvoir) Ermatinger to my ggg grandfather Edouard Boisvert? Angeline is listed in the 1870 Annuity rolls Ref: 34-3. Many thanks for any and all information you can provide me. Paul E. Petosky paul_petosky@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! � Try it today! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Discover all that�s new in My Yahoo!

Hi Everyone: I am trying to solve a mystery possibly somebody can help me out on. First of all my ggg grandparents are Edouard Boisvert and Marquerite (Shagocoui). They were married in Sault Sainte Marie, MI on February 15, 1832. Edouard was born in 1790 in Canada and Marquerite was born also in Canada in 1805. In the 1850 Chippewa County Census it shows Edward Boisvert (Boisant) age 60, Marquerite 45, Catherine 17, Edward 14, Julia 12, Joseph 10 and Mary 8. My problem is: I cannot find any records showing my ggg grandmother Marquerite Shagocoui's place of birth or place of death, nor can I find out who her parents were. She appears on the 1870 Annuity roll of the Ottawa & Chippewa Indians as Mrs. Edward Bois-bair, Ref. 34-3, SSM. Edward Bosvert, appears as mixed blood Ref. #85 on 1855 Annuity roll of the Ottawa & Chippewa Indians. Now the real cliff hanger: What relationship is Angeline (Boisvoir) Ermatinger to my ggg grandfather Edouard Boisvert? Angeline is listed in the 1870 Annuity rolls Ref: 34-3. Many thanks for any and all information you can provide me. Paul E. Petosky paul_petosky@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! � Try it today!

My great grandfather was Godfrey Liberty (Laliberte') born St. Nicolas, PQ. He died Alger Co. Michigan. His brother, Benjamin Liberty married into the Ermatinger family. MARIE ERMATINGER. Sault Ste. Marie, MI. They were the sons of Benjamin Laliberte' and Rosalie Lagace'. Does anyone have the lineage of this ERMATINGER family? Regards, Anita L. Nelson anelson1@jamadots.com

Can anyone make additions/corrections to this family, thanks, Jim. 1. Olivier DESAULTEL-LAPOINTE, born c. 1795 in Qc., CAN, (see note 1). He married Genevieve"Jane" McGILVREY, born c. 1805 in Ont., CAN. Genevieve"Jane": Aka Jane SMITH, Cree Indian. Children: 2. i Oliver Norris b. c. 1835. 3. ii John b. c. 1845. iii Rosalie LaPOINT. She married _____ LaPLAUNT. iv Mary/Maud LaPOINTE. 4. v Alexander b. c. 1852. Second Generation 2. Oliver Norris LaPOINT, Also known as John Olivier Norris/Morris, born c. 1835, (see note 2) died 1883, (see note 3). He may have also married Carrie FLOWERS or is she the same as Archange or a sister??? 1870 Fed. census, Warner Twp., Chippewa Co., MI #35-37. Olivier Dostelle 35 MI fisherman Archange " 27 MI Mary " 10 Can West Johnny " 7 Can West Archange " 5 MI Marguerite " 2 MI Alexander " 2/12 MI. He married[1] Archange MADJIASSINOKWE, Also known as WATAGON, c. 1857. Archange: Durant #9-8. Children: 5. i Mary b. c. 1860. 6. ii John Norris b. 18 Feb 1852. iii Genevieve"Jane" LAPOINTE, born 9 Aug 1858, baptized 22 Sept 1858? in Garden River, Ont., CAN. She married William JOHNSON, 7 Dec 1870 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, born c. 1846. iv Archange DOSTELLE-LAPOINTE, born c. 1865 in MI. 7. v Margaret b. c. 1865/8. vi Alexander DOSTELLE-LAPOINTE, born c. 1870 in MI. Genforum: LaPOINTE Family Genealogy Forum, msg. #686 by Gail Peura, has Alex b. c. 1851, d. 1939 m. to Adeline GENDRON, but this is his uncle. 8. vii Joseph b. 2 Feb 1874. 9. viii Peter b. 31 May 1877. 10. ix James b. 17 Jun 1879. 11. x William b. 28 Feb 1881. 3. John DESAULTEL-LAPOINTE, born c. 1845 in Lime Island, Chippewa Co., MI, occupation fisherman. 1870 Fed. census, Warner Twp., Chippewa Co., MI #33-35. John Dostelle 24 MI fisherman Mary " 15 Can West Olivier " 75 Can East farmer Jane " 65 Can West Alexander " 18 Michigan Jane " 15 Can West Alice " 12 Can Wst. He married Mary THOMSON, 1 Mar 1870 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, born c. 1854 in Ont., CAN. Children: i Alfred LaPOINT, born 18 Feb 1871 in Detour, Chippewa Co., MI. ii Alexander John LaPOINTE, born 13 Oct 1873 in Warner (Detour), Chippewa Co., MI. iii Mary J. LaPOINTE, born Mar 1881. iv Agnes LaPOINTE, born Aug 1889. She married Sylvanus (Van) BERNARD, 19 Aug 1908 in Detour, Chippewa Co., MI. v Albert LaPOINT, born Apr 1892. 4. Alexander LAPOINTE, born c. 1852, died 1939. Genevieve would have been 47 when she had Alex so either her birthdate is off or else his is. NOTE other "children" listed in census. His mother also listed as Mary BEBEMASH. He married Adeline GENDRON, Also known as Adele, born c. 1851 in CAN, (daughter of John JONDREAU and unknown) died 3 Sept 1937 in Detour, Chippewa Co., MI. Children: i Alexander LaPOINTE. ii Jane LaPOINTE. iii Ellen LaPOINTE. iv Lena LaPOINTE. v Edward LaPOINTE, born 14 Jul 1879. He married Archemese BOSLEY. vi Frederick LaPOINTE. vii Paul LaPOINTE. viii Martha LaPOINTE. ix Annie LaPOINTE. x Charles LaPOINTE. Third Generation 5. Mary DOSTELLE-LAPOINTE, born c. 1860, (see note 4) died 1907. Genforum: LaPOINTE Family Genealogy Forum, msg. #686 by Gail Peura, has name Mary Ann and b. 1855, m. to Felix GENDRON. She married Tom JONDREAU/GENDRON. Children: i Lillie JONDREAU, born c. 1877. She married _____ ABAIR. ii Alice JONDREAU, born c. 1879. She married _____ ABAIR. iii Maggie JONDREAU. Married and had a child. iv Ellen JONDREAU, born c. 1882. She married _____ STEWART. v Lena JONDREAU, born c. She married _____ LaPLANT. vi Oliver JONDREAU, born c. 1895. 6. John Norris DOSTELLE-LaPOINTE, born 18 Feb 1852 in Ont., CAN, (see note 5) died 18 Mar 1943. He married Mary KEYWAYKEZHICK, born c. 1859, (daughter of Alex SAILER and Julia ST. GERMAIN). Mary: Durant #4-11. ?2m. SAILOR. Children: i John P. LaPOINTE, born 9 May 1893. ii Joseph A. LaPOINTE, born c. 1894. iii Maggie LaPOINTE, born c. 1898/1903. iv Raymond Lawrence LaPOINTE, born 10 Mar 1907. 7. Margaret DOSTELLE-LAPOINTE, born c. 1865/8 in MI, died 1959. She married Walter Horatio STEVENSON, born 20 May 1866, died 26 May 1942. Walter: White. Children: i Jennette STEVENSON, born c. 1893. ii Harvey J, STEVENSON, born 16 Aug 1899, died 8 Aug 1972. iii Annie Marie STEVENSON, born c. 1898/28 Jun 1901, died 8 Jun 1980. iv Frank J. STEVENSON, born 21 Jul 1904, died 8 Dec 1980. v Margaret STEVENSON, born 26 Aug 1910, died 29 Oct 1999. 8. Joseph LaPOINTE, born 2 Feb 1874 in Hessel, Mackinac Co., MI, died 1928. He married Eliza DOSKENOW, Also known as DESMOND, born c. 1881, (daughter of _____ TUSKENOW and unknown). Children: i Richard LaPOINTE, born Nov 1907. ii Evelyn LaPOINTE. iii Charles LaPOINTE. iv Ellen LaPOINTE. v Clarence LaPOINTE. vi Louis LaPOINTE. 9. Peter LaPOINTE, born 31 May 1877 in MI, died 1919. He married Annie _____. Children: i Isaac LaPOINTE. ii Annie LaPOINTE. iii _____ LaPOINTE. 10. James LaPOINT, born 17 Jun 1879 in Drummond Is., Chippewa Co., MI, (see note 6) occupation laborer. He married Lucy CADOTTE, 24 Aug 1899 in Drummond Is., Chippewa Co., MI, (see note 7) born 24 Sept 1878 in Drummond Is., Chippewa Co., MI, (daughter of Isaac CADOTTE and Marie-Marguerite LARONDE) died 16 May 1923 in Drummond Is., Chippewa Co., MI. Lucy: Heather lists her as a stepchild (of whom?). Children: i Lucy LaPOINTE. ii Ellen/Helen LaPOINTE. iii Russell LaPOINTE. iv David LaPOINTE. 11. William LaPOINTE, born 28 Feb 1881 in St. Joseph, Ont., CAN, died 1915. He married Mary OZOMICK. Children: i Adam LaPOINTE. ii William LaPOINTE. Note 1 Birth also listed as 1773 Montreal, Qc. Note 2 Also listed as b. 1815 CAN. Note 3 Kathy M. has d. 1927. Note 4 Also listed as b. 1855. In 1870 listed as ten years old but she is oldest of listed children so her birth must be off. Note 5 Or b. Drummond Is., MI. Genforum: LaPOINTE Family Genealogy Forum, msg. #686 by Gail Peura, has John b. 18 Feb 1854, s/o John Oliver Norris DESAUTEL-LaPOINTE & Carrie FLOWERS. Note 6 Genforum: LaPOINTE Family Genealogy Forum, msg. #264 by Nancy Belka, has James b. 17 Jun 1870 Chippewa Co. Note 7 On mar. rec. mother's name given as Annie WA-BA-GON. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1] Murkot, Kathy <KMurkot001@aol.com>, Kathleen Murkot (RootsWeb - WorldConnect, 22 Aug 2002).

Hi Everyone, My name is Peter Lee Crego of Maple Grove, Mn. I am a new member and seek your help. My Grandfather Lyle W. Crego born Oct. 16 1892 Shell Lake Wisconsin hid indian idenity. I seek tribal affiliation to preserve my culture and traditions. Lyle W Crego's mother Elizabeth Revi aka Revoir, Revore listed Lac Courte Oreilles Indian U.S. census rolls 1887-1892. What Indian reconized records would Lyle W Crego a son of Elizabeth Revi be on and is anyone else have same ancestors and may already have records or could get copy's to me? thankyou, peter lee crego __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com

The Joseph Bruard I am searching for. First Generation: Joseph Bruard father of three children, and wife name believed to be Lois or similar. Second generation: Joseph was one of three children born to mother and father -- Joseph, Clara/ Clarabelle, and Sarah. I will go through my family files some more and see if I can find any more information. I have more, but wish to double check before I accidentally give someone wrong information. Thank you. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Glassel To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 9:53 AM Subject: [Fwd: Bruard] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020805080600030508010207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Sandy, There are 4 Bruard's listed in the MN 1900 census living at 611 17th Ave, Mnpls...Mary age 23, Laura 17, Artie 14,Willie 13...they are Listed as step daus and step sons. The others listed as daus and sons are very hard to read...as is the husband and wife...It looks like Edmond or Edward as husband, age 47 and wife "Edna" age 32 with 6 children Elmer, 9, Ethel 7, Henry, 6 "isaia", 11, Julie 13 Adolph 14. --------------020805080600030508010207 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Bruard" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Bruard" Message-ID: <419576A0.3030002@execpc.com> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:51:12 -0600 From: Thomas Glassel <tglassel@execpc.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: NISHNAWBE-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: Bruard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Sandy, Using Ancestry.com and looking at WI census 1880, There is Joseph Bruard m. to Amanda living in Wrightstown in Brown County...[10 miles from Green Bay]. His father was born in Canada. Joseph was 24 in 1880 as was Amanda. Amanda's mother was born in WI and her father was born in NY. There were 2 children Mary 3 yrs, and Fred 1 month, then there was Joseph G. born 5 Jun 1887...Hope this helps...tg --------------020805080600030508010207--

Aanii, I'm looking for a Beatrice Paquet, was married to a man surname Senecal. I know, in the past there was alot of Paquet lineage on here. If anyone knows of Senecals or Beatrice Paquet, you will make one happy lady. Also, am looking for a Cathrine Cormella Elliot, Cherokee lineage, lived in and had children in of all places Custer's ole house in Michigan. Any help here would be appreciated as well..........Miiqwetch niidji@mchsi.com wrote:Sandy I was about to see if I could search some for you but found you did not give your grandmother's name. On a post like this it is helpful to give as much info as possible. Do you know her mother's name and did she have any siblings? Many times names found for a person are actually somewhat or even completely different than what you would expect so additional info is always helpful. Knowing names of brothers and sisters can help a great deal in qualifying found info as well as in a search for it. Larry Friend (Black Buffalo) niidji@mchsi.com (formerly friend@2z.net) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:25:24 -0600 From: "Sandy Carlson" To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: Subject: Re: NISHNAWBE-D Digest V04 #121 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have surname BRUARD that I am searching for. According to grandmother she was from Oro, WI, but think it may actually be Orr, MN. She was born in 1892. Her father name was Joseph Bruard. I cannot find her any of the places I have looked. Can anyone help?? Thank you Sandy ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx Redhawkwoman __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020805080600030508010207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Sandy, There are 4 Bruard's listed in the MN 1900 census living at 611 17th Ave, Mnpls...Mary age 23, Laura 17, Artie 14,Willie 13...they are Listed as step daus and step sons. The others listed as daus and sons are very hard to read...as is the husband and wife...It looks like Edmond or Edward as husband, age 47 and wife "Edna" age 32 with 6 children Elmer, 9, Ethel 7, Henry, 6 "isaia", 11, Julie 13 Adolph 14. --------------020805080600030508010207 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Bruard" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Bruard" Message-ID: <419576A0.3030002@execpc.com> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:51:12 -0600 From: Thomas Glassel <tglassel@execpc.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: NISHNAWBE-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: Bruard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Sandy, Using Ancestry.com and looking at WI census 1880, There is Joseph Bruard m. to Amanda living in Wrightstown in Brown County...[10 miles from Green Bay]. His father was born in Canada. Joseph was 24 in 1880 as was Amanda. Amanda's mother was born in WI and her father was born in NY. There were 2 children Mary 3 yrs, and Fred 1 month, then there was Joseph G. born 5 Jun 1887...Hope this helps...tg --------------020805080600030508010207--

Sandy I was about to see if I could search some for you but found you did not give your grandmother's name. On a post like this it is helpful to give as much info as possible. Do you know her mother's name and did she have any siblings? Many times names found for a person are actually somewhat or even completely different than what you would expect so additional info is always helpful. Knowing names of brothers and sisters can help a great deal in qualifying found info as well as in a search for it. Larry Friend (Black Buffalo) niidji@mchsi.com (formerly friend@2z.net) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:25:24 -0600 From: "Sandy Carlson" <hardwoodwitch02@msn.com> To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY11-DAV40Fsxf4yp800008128@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: NISHNAWBE-D Digest V04 #121 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have surname BRUARD that I am searching for. According to grandmother she was from Oro, WI, but think it may actually be Orr, MN. She was born in 1892. Her father name was Joseph Bruard. I cannot find her any of the places I have looked. Can anyone help?? Thank you Sandy

Hi All Work slowed me to a crawl, my computers motherboard went and that stopped me in my tracks. Then I also moved! I will review the archives for what I missed. Old address: friend@2z.net New adress: niidji@mchsi.com Larry Friend (Black Buffalo) niidji@mchsi.com

In a message dated 11/12/04 10:00:58 AM Central Standard Time, NISHNAWBE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: X-Message: #1 Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:25:24 -0600 From: "Sandy Carlson" <hardwoodwitch02@msn.com> To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY11-DAV40Fsxf4yp800008128@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: NISHNAWBE-D Digest V04 #121 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have surname BRUARD that I am searching for. According to grandmother she was from Oro, WI, but think it may actually be Orr, MN. She was born in 1892. Her father name was Joseph Bruard. I cannot find her any of the places I have looked. Can anyone help?? Thank you Sandy Found 3 of them on the 1880 census: _Joseph BRUARD_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_6469596_0&frompage=5) Self M Male W 24 WI Laborer CAN WI _Amanda BRUARD_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_6469596_1&frompage=5) Wife M Female W 24 WI Keeping House NY WI _Mary BRUARD_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_6469596_2&fr ompage=5) Dau S Female W 3 WI WI WI _Fred BRUARD_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_6469596 _3&frompage=5) Son S Male W 1M WI WI WI Source Information: Census Place 24, Wrightstown, Brown, Wisconsin Family History Library Film _1255418_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*,180,0&filmno=1255418) NA Film Number T9-1418 Page Number _357B_ (javascript:imageWindow=open('1880USCensusCost.asp','imageRecord','menubar=yes,toolbar=yes,status=yes,resizable=yes,width=60 0,height=440');imageWindow=open('http://www.ancestry.com/FamilySearch/?nara=T9 -1418&pgno=357B&irecid=1880US_6469596_0','imageRecord','menubar=yes,toolbar=ye s,status=yes,resizable=yes,width=600,height=440');imageWindow.focus();) ================= _Joseph H. BRUERE_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_9333342_0&frompage=5) Self W Male W 49 NJ Farmer NJ NJ _Mary BRUERE_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_9333342_1&frompage=5) Dau S Female W 21 NJ At Home NJ VA _Hannah H. WORTH_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_9333342_2&frompa ge=5) Aunt W Female W 81 NJ Keeping House NJ NJ _Haincok SCHENCK_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_9333342_3&frompage=5) Other W Female W 53 NJ Servant --- --- _Anna HAIGHT_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_9333342_4&frompage=5) Other M Female W 28 NJ Servant --- --- _Edward SCHENCK_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_9333342_5&frompage=5) Other S Male W 11 NJ At School --- --- Source Information: Census Place District 1, Princeton, Mercer, New Jersey Family History Library Film _1254788_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*,180,0&filmno=1254788) NA Film Number T9-0788 Page Number _130B_ (javascript:imageWindow=open('1880USCensusCost.asp','imageRecord','menubar=yes,toolbar=yes,status=yes,resizable=yes, width=600,height=440');imageWindow=open('http://www.ancestry.com/FamilySearch/ ?nara=T9-0788&pgno=130B&irecid=1880US_9333342_0','imageRecord','menubar=yes,to olbar=yes,status=yes,resizable=yes,width=600,height=440');imageWindow.focus(); ) ======================= This one would only be 14 when she was born: _Henry W. BRUOER_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11786877_0&frompage=5) Self M Male W 32 GA Farming SC SC _Martha BRUOER_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11786877_1&frompage=5) Wife M Female W 29 AL Works On Farm AL SC _Aloyda BRUOER_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_1178687 7_2&frompage=5) Dau S Female W 8 AL GA AL _William H. BRUOER_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=18 80US_11786877_3&frompage=5) Son S Male W 7 AL GA AL _John T. BRUOER_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11786877_4&frompage=5) Son S Male W 4 AL GA AL _Joseph A. BRUOER_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11786877_5&frompage=5) Son S Male W 2 AL GA AL _Wallace BRUOER_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_11786877_6&frompage=5) Son S Male W 8M AL GA AL Source Information: Census Place Mount Ida, Crenshaw, Alabama Family History Library Film _1254010_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*,180,0&filmno=1254010) NA Film Number T9-0010 Page Number _452A_ (javascript:imageWindow=open('1880USCensusCost.asp','imageRecord','menubar=yes,toolbar=yes,status=yes,resizable=yes,width=600,height=440');imageWindo w=open('http://www.ancestry.com/FamilySearch/?nara=T9-0010&pgno=452A&irecid=18 80US_11786877_0','imageRecord','menubar=yes,toolbar=yes,status=yes,resizable=y es,width=600,height=440');imageWindow.focus();)

I have surname BRUARD that I am searching for. According to grandmother she was from Oro, WI, but think it may actually be Orr, MN. She was born in 1892. Her father name was Joseph Bruard. I cannot find her any of the places I have looked. Can anyone help?? Thank you Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: NISHNAWBE-D-request@rootsweb.com To: NISHNAWBE-D@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:00 AM Subject: NISHNAWBE-D Digest V04 #121

This is what I have in my database on this line... Descendants of: Mathurin BOTINEAU-BAUTINAO-BOTINO 1 Mathurin BOTINEAU-BAUTINAO-BOTINO b. 1699 Nantes, Loire-Atlantique, France m. Marie AUBRON m. 1720 Doulon, Nantes, Brittany, France 2 Pierre BOTINEAU-BAUTINAU b. 1730 Doulon, Nantes, Brittany, France d. Jun 19 1790 Berthierville (Haut), Berthier, Quebec m. Angelique FOURNAISE-LABOUCANE m. Jan 07 1760 Lavaltrie, Berthier, Quebec, Canada b. Dec 14 1742 Lavaltrie, Berthier, Quebec, Canada [d/o Francois FOURNAISE-dit-LABOUCANE and Angelique SERRE-SAIRE] Pierre came to Quebec 1760. His parents did not come to Quebec with Pierre. Present at Angelique's Baptism were Michel Frappier and Madeleine Robert. She was Baptized by Reverend Father Duniere. Present at Angelique and Pierre's wedding were: Jean Laporte, Henri Narbonne, Pierre Raphe, Guillaume Termos, Jean Hali, and Germain Magloire. Reverend Father Papin, missionary-priest, performed the wedding ceremony. 3 Charles Joseph BOTINEAU b. May 01 1776 Berthierville (Haut), Berthier, Quebec m1. Martha TECHOMEHGOOD-dit-BOISCLAIR m. 1797 Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada b. ABT 1780 Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada d. ABT 1816 [d/o (++++++) SIOUX and (++++++) OJIBWAY] m2. Margaret Ahdik SONGAB m. 1820 St-Boniface, Manitoba, Canada Martha was a Lake-of-the-Woods Ojibway (Chippewa) 4 Emilie BOTTINEAU b. 1799 m. Louis Sulpice DESAUTELS-dit-LAPOINTE m. 1819 Red River Settlement, Manitoba, Canada b. Jun 23 1795 Assomption, Montreal, Quebec d. Nov 06 1885 Ludington, Eau Claire Co., Wisconsin [s/o Charles DESAUTELS-dit-LAPOINTE and Louise Marie DUPILLE] 5 Marguerite "Mahjequa" Marie LAPOINTE b. Jan 01 1820 Red River Settlement, Manitoba, Canada d. Nov 08 1903 Chippewa Falls, Chippewa, Wisconsin, USA m. Daniel McCANN m. Dec 21 1838 Prairie-du-Chien, Crawford Co, Wisconsin b. Jan 26 1816 Wayne, Adams Co., Ohio d. Oct 02 1890 Chippewa Falls, Chippewa, Wisconsin, USA [s/o Arthur McCANN and Barbary SMITH] Margaret died of Liver Cancer. Daniel died of Stomach Cancer. 6 Louise Anna McCANN b. Oct 03 1855 Jim Falls, Chippewa Co., Wisconsin, USA d. Aug 24 1930 Spooner, Washburn Co., Wisconsin m. John Henry MISHLER m. Nov 19 1873 b. Feb 12 1852 Chippewa Falls, Chippewa, Wisconsin, USA d. Apr 30 1937 Spooner, Washburn Co., Wisconsin [s/o George MISHLER and Marguerite DEMARIE] 7 Estelle Laura "Stella" MISHLER b. May 26 1880 Springbrook, Washburn Co., Wisconsin d. Sep 25 1953 Madison, Wisconsin, USA m. Richard Henry GORSUCH m. Jul 19 1901 Washburn Co., Wisconsin b. May 10 1886 Cumberland, Barron Co., Wisconsin d. Oct 04 1960 8 Harry Otis GORSUCH b. Nov 04 1907 Peoria, Peoria Co., Illinois d. Apr 10 1984 Green Lake, Green Lake Co., Wisconsin m. Winifred PIPPEL m. Jun 21 1928 Belvidere, Boone Co., Illinois b. Aug 30 1911 Grand Haven, Ottawa Co., Michigan d. Mar 30 1984 Mantello, Marquette Co., Wisconsin > In trying to help my step-son establish his Indian heritage for court > purposes, I came across a site pointing to this group and decided to > join. I've randomly read some of the messages, but don't see anything > suggesting where one should start researching. > > I've worked considerably on my family (Jewish) and somewhat on my > husband's (English) but have no idea where to begin with Indian > ancestry. > > I actually have a lot of data which was provided to me by other > researchers. However, what I need to do is validate the information. > > The primary connnection begins with my step-son's maternal > grandfather, Edward Richard Gorsuch. Family lore has it he attended > school as a child on a reservation. This would suggest he was on the > Indian rolls. > > Does anyone know how I can confirm that? > > If it's of any assistance, here's the relevant data I have: > > Edward Richard Gorsuch > b. 12/21/1929, Superior, Douglas Co., WI > d. 10/11/1999, Milwaukee, Milwaukee Co., WI > > father: Harry Otis Gorsuch > + Winifred Pippel > b. 11/04/1907 - 1908, Peoria, Peoria Co., IL > m. 06/21/1928 - 1929, Belvidere, Boone Co., IL > d. 04/10/1984, Green Lake, Green Lake Co., WI > > grandmother: Estella Laura "Stella" Mishler > + Richard Henry Gorsuch > b. 05/26/1880, Springbrook, Washburn Co., WI (though one source > insists VA) > m. 07/19/1901, Springbrook, Washburn Co., WI > d. 09/25/1953, Madison, Madison Co., WI > > great-grandmother: Louisa Anna McCann > + John Henry Mishler > b. 10/03/1850 - 1855, Jim Falls, Chippewa Co., WI > m. 11/19/1873 > d. 09/20/1930 > > 2x-grandmother: Margaret LaPointe > + Daniel McCann > b. 06/01/1820, Red River, Kewaunee Co., WI > m. 1848 > d. 11/08/1903 > > 3x-grandmother: Marie Emilie Bottineau > + Suplice LaPointe Desautels > b. 1779 > m. 1819, Red River, Kewaunee Co., WI > d. 1824 > > 4x-grandmother: Techomehgood > + Charles Bottineau > b. 1745 > m. 1779 > d. 1779 > > Since writing the above message on another group, I've learned it's possible some of the other lines may yield Indian heritage in order to have provided enough quantum for Edward Richard Gorsuch to have been on the rolls. > > If anyone else is researching any of these lines, I would also like to chat with you. > > Thank you for any suggestions you are able to offer. > > Jeanne Gold > ------- Snipped to save our database --------

> are Red Cliff, Fond du Lac, Bois Forte the names of bands? > What is the difference between a tribe and a band? Anishinaabe peoples historically lived in independent & autonomous bands of extended family / dodem. Band size was limited by the carrying capacity of their lands; bands could be larger where whitefish could be harvested, and where horticulture was possible, but generally ranged from a dozen to a few hundred. The American (and Canadian0 treaty systems imposed serious economic and political limitations. Bands found themselves confined to smaller hunting / harvesting areas which dramatically changed lifestyles in almost every respect, including the diminution of carrying capacity as a limiting factor of population. Politically, treaties were sometimes 'bargained' without real representation of the People affected, or without their subsequent consent, and often with the aid of alcohol & deals made in 'smoke filled wigwams' ... the idea of a Tribe or Nation is largely a 19th-century external imposition for the convenience of American treaty interests. Federal interests have never let go of their reliance on 'Tribe' or their insistence on racializing nDns, among other foibles ... Tribe has come to have different meaning in the 20th century, and nDn peoples have generally adapted to its use. Peoples who prefer to be recognized as Bands will probably tell you so on their website, or in their corporate name. To a genealogical researcher it doesn't make a lot of difference, but be aware that Anishinaabeg married out of their clans and there were few, if any, barriers to so-called 'inter-tribal' marriages and movements ... the ancestor you think of as a Potawatomi, for instance, may have been born of an Ojibwe and an Odawa. Be prepared for shifts and surprises. > Is Grand Portage a location and if so, is it in Wisconsin? Kitchi Onigaming or “the Great Carrying Place” was base for the North West Company on Grand Portage Bay (MN) from 1780 - 1802, at which time they relocated north to the mouth of the Kaministquia River where they constructed Fort William on British soil. Both were gateways into northern fur bearing country. Today there is as Grand Portage National Historic Site / Monument lying entirely within the Grand Portage Ojibwe Indian Reservation. regards - rdw

OK, looks like your signals might be a little crossed here goes: Charles Bottineau b. 1 May 1776 Berthier Quebec married Techomehgood Assiniboine b. ABT 1780 Winnipeg Manitoba Charles parents are: Pierre Bottineau b. 1730 Doulon Nates France Angelique Fournaise b. 14 Dec 1742 Lavaltrie Quebec The Red River area might be around Pembina North Dakota. Turtle Mountain Reservation is near there. These are the Original Metis that settled around Winnipeg Manitoba. They were given Script by the Canadian government and forced off thier land by deception. There is much information on the Metis Resource Centre site out of St Boniface Manitoba. Volumes could be written about this genealogy and has, Gail Morin is a prime source. Try _www.metisresourcecentre.mb.ca_ (http://www.metisresourcecentre.mb.ca) If this is your Charles then that would be a good start. Don't be surprised if more then one tribe pops up along with 20 or 30 children. French Canadian men had "country wives" indian women they married or lived with on thier voyageur trips. Then had another wife, with children, in Montreal that was non-indian! The Catholic Church kept excellent records and made marriage contracts that date back to the early 1600's. Keep me posted if this is your line?

Try the Brown , Oconto county and the Menominee/Winnebagos (Ho Chunk) direction. Bottineau family are Metis ( mix bloods of New England) I am related somewhat to that family. Will try to find some look-ups for you. Many, many, familes came to the upper midwest from Quebec and the New England area. Most were mix bloods, the sons/daughters of the Voyageurs/Fur Traders of an earlier era. They married indian women. This is very difficult ancestry to trace and sometimes involves four or five tribes! We have been working on it for many years. Many indians from the Reservations in the Wisconsin/Minnesota area (maybe Michigan not sure) that are over 50 years old or so were sent to "Boarding Schools". Mainly to steal thier culture and try to make them "white". So the Rolls would be easy start with the Dawes. Also, during the many indian "relocation" acts some stayed with the Tribes and others faded into the white mainstream, often after being given money. As an example my gg Grandmother (according to my grandmother) took money to become white. Eventually these proud people were "chased" into Oklahoma from thier homes in Quebec, Michigan and Ohio from that particular tribe (Huron-Wendat-Petuns-Wyandotte) depending on what agency they were dealing for relocations. Remember during that period too, the only ones that could read and write many times were the Catholic Priests. They used phonetic spellings for the French Names! Will try to dig up some information sites.

Hello Jeanne... Your dates for Charles BOTINEAU's wife sort of threw me for a loop. She can be found listed as Martha and/or Marguerite BOISCLAIR. The BOISCLAIR has been anglicized to CLEARWATER or CLEARSKY in some documents. I've found her father listed as SIOUX and her mother as OJIBWAY. F.Y.I. In Canada they use OJIBWAY and in the US CHIPPEWA. She was from the Lake-of-the-Woods area. BTW... The name BAUTINAU is generally found as BOTINEAU or BOTTINEAU (2 "T's") today. Although I have found it written phonetically as BATINO, BOTTINO, BOTTEANO, BOTNOW, and BATSINEAU (which is close to how a Francophone would say the name = BAH-TSEE-NO). <grin> I know... There's no "S" in the name but we French put one there. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I found this on the net... BOTTINEAU, CHARLES =================== The following is translated from "Bulletin de la Societe historique de Saint-Boniface" - 1999-2000 - Numero 4 - ISSN 0384 0158 - Automne 2000 Charles Bottineau was born on the first and baptized on the second of May 1776 at Berthier-en-haut (Quebec), son of Pierre Bautinau and Angelique Fournaise. Pierre Bautinau was of the diocese of Nantes in Brittany. We haven't found the employment contract as a voyageur of Charles Bottineau. We found the first mention of it in the journal of Alexander Henry the younger , dated 3 October 1803 when a group of Henry's voyageurs set out for (Montagne du Poil) Hair Hills. «Charles Bottineau, with two horses and a cart loaded with 1 ½ packs, his own baggage, and two young children with kettles and other trash hanging on it. Madame Bottineau with a squalling infant on her back, scolding and tossing it about.» Charles Bottineau is named as a foreman voyageur (voyageur contremaitre) in the list of heads of household, clerks and voyageurs of the North West Fur company in 1804. He was in the Red River area. Alexander Henry notes on 18 October 1805, the death of a son of Bottineau, about seven years old, died «of a swelling of the belly and cositiveness. An hour before he expired the swelling disappeared entirely, and we were in hopes he would recover; clysters and purges had no effect whatever.» In the census of the Red River and Pembina in February 1814 we find Bottineau a free man with his wife, a son and five daughters. He may have had his marriage to Marguerite, an Ojibway Indian, validated or legalized at St. Boniface in 1820 after the arrival of the missionaries. On 7 July 1817, in the presence of William Bacheler Coltman, a special commissioner conducting an investigation into the troubles in the Red River region, Charles Bottineau gave the following deposition. Charles Bottineau having been sworn in says and declares at the end of 1814, two years after the colonists had arrived at the Red River, being a hunter for the North West company was ordered by Mr. Duncan Cameron and Alexander McDonell of the said company not to give any food to the colonists nor give them help in any manner even if they were dying of starvation. These two men made this order to apply to all other free Canadians of the Red River region and that there were only Dauphine and Tranchemontagne who refused to obey this order and were hired by the colony as hunters. That Plante, a free man, had on one occasion, given food to the English, had been punished for it and the North West company had seized his four horses and made him return to Montreal and never to allow him to rejoin his family. That in the same year of 1814, Mr. Duncan Cameron and Alexander McDonell ordered the deponent to take great pains to drive away the animals that might fall prey to the hunters employed by the colony either by hunting them or by scaring them away, that to this effect. The deponent was not to fear to have his horses killed and in case that happened, the company would give him others. That in the beginning of the year of 1815, the deponent was camped with several Metis and free men from Red River at Turtle River to hunt cows, that Bostois Pangman, interpreter for the North West company arrived at their camp to tell them that Captain McDonell, Governor of the colony was coming with 25 men to pillage their camp and that they should get ready to defend themselves. The deponent later learned that this was a lie that Mr. Duncan Cameron had invented to turn the free men against the colonists, however this report having been repeated so often that the free men and the Metis believed it and were determined to kill Captain McDonell if he came there.That the following summer after Governor McDonell had been made prisoner and the colonists driven from the Red River, Duncan Cameron ordered the deponent to set fire to the Hudson Bay company fort at the Pembina River. The deponent not having carried out this order, Mr. Alexander McDonell and Mr. Seraphin Lamar harshly reproached him for not having carried out this order. That in the summer of 1815, Mr. Duncan Cameron called together once more the free men of Red River and forbade them in a most forceful manner to give food to the English and it was they the free men were the reason the English remained at the Red River, that the deponent nevertheless was hired by Mr. Robertson as a hunter and hunted all winter for the colony. That after the disturbance of 19 Jun 1816, and after the English had been driven from the Red River, the deponent was mistreated by the people of the North West company because he had furnished food to the colonists and that Mr. Daniel McKenzie wanted to make him get in his canoe and forcefully take him back to Montreal. la marque X De Charles Bautinau Assermente a la Riviere Rouge le 7 Juillet 1817 devant moi (signe) W.B. Coltman In another deposition, dated 20 August 1817, Bottineau declared he arrived at Red River about 10 or 12 days after the death of Governor Semple. That he saw after his arrival at Red River, a man by the name of La Serpe, Antoine Hoole, Francois Deschamps, the father and Francois Deschamps, the son. That these persons mentioned above had boasted to have been involved in the 19 June 1816 affair when said Semple was killed. That said La Serpe had told the deponent that he killed two English in that affair with his own hands. That he had killed one of these English when they were together but he was obliged to run a long distance to reach the second he killed, that however he caught him near one of the colony's gardens close to the fort where he shot him. That said La Serpe had also shown to the deponent the remains of the persons he killed whose things he had in his little box and in which he also carried the clothes which he swore he removed from their bloody corpses. That after this time, that is, appoaching August 1816, said La Serpe told the deponent that he was determined to prevent the English from setting foot again in this country and that if the free Canadians didn't want to help them to plunder and drive out the English and kill them if they the English put up any defense, they themselves free Canadians would be driven out of the country. That in the end the said deponent and others were forced to promise to obey and do likewise but it was fear that forced them to make these promises and that Alexander McDonell, a partner in the North West company was present when La Serpe spoke as mentioned above and that he even heaped praise on said La Serpe. la marque X De Charles Bautinau Affirme a la Riviere Rouge de Ce 20em Aout 1817 devant moi (signe) W.B. Coltman The date of death of Charles Bottineau remains undiscovered. [Information provided by Al Dahlquist of the Little Canada Historical Society]. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanne Gold" <Gold@Digging4Roots.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:36 PM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Chippewa Research: Where does one start? > In trying to help my step-son establish his Indian heritage for court > purposes, I came across a site pointing to this group and decided to > join. I've randomly read some of the messages, but don't see anything > suggesting where one should start researching. > > I've worked considerably on my family (Jewish) and somewhat on my > husband's (English) but have no idea where to begin with Indian > ancestry. > > I actually have a lot of data which was provided to me by other > researchers. However, what I need to do is validate the information. > > The primary connnection begins with my step-son's maternal > grandfather, Edward Richard Gorsuch. Family lore has it he attended > school as a child on a reservation. This would suggest he was on the > Indian rolls. > > Does anyone know how I can confirm that? > > If it's of any assistance, here's the relevant data I have: > > Edward Richard Gorsuch > b. 12/21/1929, Superior, Douglas Co., WI > d. 10/11/1999, Milwaukee, Milwaukee Co., WI > > father: Harry Otis Gorsuch > + Winifred Pippel > b. 11/04/1907 - 1908, Peoria, Peoria Co., IL > m. 06/21/1928 - 1929, Belvidere, Boone Co., IL > d. 04/10/1984, Green Lake, Green Lake Co., WI > > grandmother: Estella Laura "Stella" Mishler > + Richard Henry Gorsuch > b. 05/26/1880, Springbrook, Washburn Co., WI (though one source > insists VA) > m. 07/19/1901, Springbrook, Washburn Co., WI > d. 09/25/1953, Madison, Madison Co., WI > > great-grandmother: Louisa Anna McCann > + John Henry Mishler > b. 10/03/1850 - 1855, Jim Falls, Chippewa Co., WI > m. 11/19/1873 > d. 09/20/1930 > > 2x-grandmother: Margaret LaPointe > + Daniel McCann > b. 06/01/1820, Red River, Kewaunee Co., WI > m. 1848 > d. 11/08/1903 > > 3x-grandmother: Marie Emilie Bottineau > + Suplice LaPointe Desautels > b. 1779 > m. 1819, Red River, Kewaunee Co., WI > d. 1824 > > 4x-grandmother: Techomehgood > + Charles Bottineau > b. 1745 > m. 1779 > d. 1779 > > Since writing the above message on another group, I've learned it's possible some of the other lines may yield Indian heritage in order to have provided enough quantum for Edward Richard Gorsuch to have been on the rolls. > > If anyone else is researching any of these lines, I would also like to chat with you. > > Thank you for any suggestions you are able to offer. > > Jeanne Gold > ------- Snipped to save our database --------

----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:10 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [NISHNAWBE] Chippewa Research: Where does one start? Bud, one thing I noticed about her information is that Madison is in Dane County, Wisconsin doesn't have a Madison County that I am aware of and we only have one Madison WI. Maybe years ago Dane County WAS Madison County! Also interesting was one grandfather was named Lapointe! When I tried to get my grandmothers birth certificate from the Baraboo area, I was told it wasn't mandatory for birth certificates in Wisconsin until after 1900, my grandmother was born in 1881. Also so many buildings were made of wood and burned down that records were lost forever. I know that the state capitol had burned when my great grandfather was working there and records were lost then too. Barb bud <bud@alliancecom.net> wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanne Gold" To: Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 8:36 PM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Chippewa Research: Where does one start? > In trying to help my step-son establish his Indian heritage for court > purposes, I came across a site pointing to this group and decided to > join. I've randomly read some of the messages, but don't see anything > suggesting where one should start researching. > > I've worked considerably on my family (Jewish) and somewhat on my > husband's (English) but have no idea where to begin with Indian > ancestry. > > I actually have a lot of data which was provided to me by other > researchers. However, what I need to do is validate the information. > > The primary connnection begins with my step-son's maternal > grandfather, Edward Richard Gorsuch. Family lore has it he attended > school as a child on a reservation. This would suggest he was on the > Indian rolls. > > Does anyone know how I can confirm that? > > If it's of any assistance, here's the relevant data I have: > > Edward Richard Gorsuch > b. 12/21/1929, Superior, Douglas Co., WI > d. 10/11/1999, Milwaukee, Milwaukee Co., WI > > father: Harry Otis Gorsuch > + Winifred Pippel > b. 11/04/1907 - 1908, Peoria, Peoria Co., IL > m. 06/21/1928 - 1929, Belvidere, Boone Co., IL > d. 04/10/1984, Green Lake, Green Lake Co., WI > > grandmother: Estella Laura "Stella" Mishler > + Richard Henry Gorsuch > b. 05/26/1880, Springbrook, Washburn Co., WI (though one source > insists VA) > m. 07/19/1901, Springbrook, Washburn Co., WI > d. 09/25/1953, Madison, Madison Co., WI > > great-grandmother: Louisa Anna McCann > + John Henry Mishler > b. 10/03/1850 - 1855, Jim Falls, Chippewa Co., WI > m. 11/19/1873 > d. 09/20/1930 > > 2x-grandmother: Margaret LaPointe > + Daniel McCann > b. 06/01/1820, Red River, Kewaunee Co., WI > m. 1848 > d. 11/08/1903 > > 3x-grandmother: Marie Emilie Bottineau > + Suplice LaPointe Desautels > b. 1779 > m. 1819, Red River, Kewaunee Co., WI > d. 1824 > > 4x-grandmother: Techomehgood > + Charles Bottineau > b. 1745 > m. 1779 > d. 1779 > > Since writing the above message on another group, I've learned it's > possible some of the other lines may yield Indian heritage in order to > have provided enough quantum for Edward Richard Gorsuch to have been on > the rolls. > > If anyone else is researching any of these lines, I would also like to > chat with you. > > Thank you for any suggestions you are able to offer. > > Jeanne Gold > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/1/2004 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com