In a message dated 11/19/2004 12:16:58 AM Central Standard Time, NISHNAWBE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: He married (2) Mary Kathryn/Catherine McKEE, 1803, (daughter of Thomas McKEE and Therese ASKIN/ERSKINE). Children: 6. ii Catherine Jemima b. c. 1826. I have her as a child of Thomas McKee Ermatinger (listed below) and 7. iii Thomas McKee b. 1800/6. 8. iv James Rough b. 3 Oct 1808. v Anna Maria ERMATINGER. She married James W. ABBOTT. I have that James Abbott married her sister Theresa, or did he marry both of them? Chippewa County Marriages Compiled from records of the Chippewa County Clerk's Office by Jan Reed, Yvonne Peer, Betty McNeil, and Carol Storey. Volumne A pg 31 Date received 08 Sep 1835 Ermatinger Theresa Abbott James W. Date Married 08 Sep 1835 at Sault Ste. Marie, MI Official Henry A. Levake -Justice of the Peace County Clerk S. R. Wood vi Theresa ERMATINGER.

Aaniin I was curious on what enrollment you were talking about being reopened. Is the Sault Tribe by chance? Megwetch Pat ( Minado Giizis - Spirit Woman) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anita Nelson" <anelson1@jamadots.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] re: Edouard Boisvert & Marquerite Shagocoui > I'm too tired too figure that out. ha ha. > I spent the afternoon washing, cooking, and packing. In between time, > tried to straighten up all my files. I had a mess from digging through all > my material the last few weeks. I cannot believe what I have collected over > the years. > I have gotten three calls since the news about the enrollment being > re-opened. One called me at work because of my unlisted number. Good > thing I made copies of the application. I tried to tell people that not > all are going to be enrolled. It depends on the situation. > > Would appreciate the copy. megwetch > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Petosky" <paul_petosky@yahoo.com> > To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:18 PM > Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] re: Edouard Boisvert & Marquerite Shagocoui > > > > Anita: > > > > Marquerite Katahiujenj is the same person as Shagocoui. Try and figure > that one out? > > > > I am going to scan you that other half of the paperwork you need next. > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > Anita Nelson <anelson1@jamadots.com> wrote: > > Received. Interesting. Where does the Marguerite Katahiujenj fit in? to > > this family. I have this name written on a piece of paper. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Paul Petosky" > > > > To: > > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 1:15 PM > > Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] re: Edouard Boisvert & Marquerite Shagocoui > > > > > > > Heather: > > > > > > Thanks for the fast response. I appreciated all the help on that > mystery. > > NOW to solve the big mystery.............. > > > > > > WHO WERE MY GGG GRANDMOTHER MARQUERITE SHAGOCOUI'S MOTHER & FATHER AND > > WHERE WAS MARGUERITE BORN AND WHEN DID SHE DIE? > > > > > > > > > Can anyone help me out. > > > > > > Many thanks. > > > > > > Happy Thanksgiving to all... > > > > > > Paul E. Petosky > > > > > > paul_petosky@yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sneakers wrote: > > > Hi Paul > > > > > > Angeline (Boisvoir) Ermatinger would be a daughter of Edward Boisvert > and > > > Marguerite Shagocoui. > > > > > > Charles ERMATINGER, Also known as William ARMATINGER, born Mar 1833 in > MI. > > > Son of Thomas McKee ERMATINGER, born 1800/6, died c. 1850 in Sault Ste. > > > Marie, Chippewa Co., MI.and Genevieve"Jane" SPENARD, Also known as > > > SPENON/SPENCER, 11 Jan 1826 in Mackinac Co., MI,[2] born c. 1805 in MI, > > > (daughter of Charles SPINARD and Genevieve DuFAUT/LaFANT). > > > > > > Charles married Mary Adeline Angeline BOISVERT, married (religious) 21 > Jan > > > 1861 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI,[3] born c. 1842/Aug 1846, > > > (daughter of Edward BOISVERT and Mary Marguerite SHAGOCOUI). > > > > > > Children: > > > > > > i Catherine b. c. 1864. > > > > > > ii Edward ERMATINGER, born c. 1862/6. > > > > > > iii Thomas ERMATINGER, born 1868. > > > > > > iv William ERMATINGER, born Nov 1872.[4] > > > > > > v Frank ERMATINGER, born Sept 1876.[5] > > > > > > vi Mary L. ERMATINGER, born May 1878. > > > > > > vii Maria b. Mar 1881. > > > > > > In addition, I found several years ago, Boisvert being associated to the > > > surname of Larose. > > > Perhaps the surname originates from the old French naming of Boisvert > dit > > > Larose or Larose dit Bosivert. > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > Heather > > > sneakers@sympatico.ca > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Paul Petosky" > > > > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 2:22 AM > > > Subject: [NISHNAWBE] re: Edouard Boisvert & Marquerite Shagocoui > > > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone: > > > > > > > > I am trying to solve a mystery possibly somebody can help me out on. > > > > > > > > First of all my ggg grandparents are Edouard Boisvert and Marquerite > > > (Shagocoui). They were married in Sault Sainte Marie, MI on February 15, > > > 1832. > > > > > > > > Edouard was born in 1790 in Canada and Marquerite was born also in > > Canada > > > in 1805. In the 1850 Chippewa County Census it shows Edward Boisvert > > > (Boisant) age 60, Marquerite 45, Catherine 17, Edward 14, Julia 12, > Joseph > > > 10 and Mary 8. > > > > > > > > My problem is: I cannot find any records showing my ggg grandmother > > > Marquerite Shagocoui's place of birth or place of death, nor can I find > > out > > > who her parents were. She appears on the 1870 Annuity roll of the Ottawa > & > > > Chippewa Indians as Mrs. Edward Bois-bair, Ref. 34-3, SSM. Edward > Bosvert, > > > appears as mixed blood Ref. #85 on 1855 Annuity roll of the Ottawa & > > > Chippewa Indians. > > > > > > > > Now the real cliff hanger: What relationship is Angeline (Boisvoir) > > > Ermatinger to my ggg grandfather Edouard Boisvert? Angeline is listed in > > the > > > 1870 Annuity rolls Ref: 34-3. > > > > > > > > Many thanks for any and all information you can provide me. > > > > > > > > Paul E. 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Aanim: Yes, special case enrollments start January 3, 2005. For example: 1. Were adopted as minors into non-tribal households and were not aware of ancestry until adulthood. 2. Did not have Biological fathers named on birth certificate and ancestry is traced through paternal ancestry. 3. Were listed on parents' enrollment applications as minors, but proper documentation to become enrolled members prior to reaching 18 years of age was not submitted, or individuals born after parents' original enrollment dates and were not listed with other siblings on parents' applications. 4. Were prevented from enrolling due to being on active duty in the U.S. military at time of roll closure. 5. Were placed in foster care, orphanages or other out-of-home placement as minors. 6. Have family members such as fathers, mothers, siblings, grandparents, aunts or uncles enrolled in the Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians. 7. There are also unspecified instances that may qualiify one for special enrollment. These situations do not guarantee enrollment. Each special case exception will be reviewed and approved or denied through the special needs enrollment committee. Final decisions will be made by the tribal board of directors. Megwetch, Paul E. Petosky jthibault@lighthouse.net wrote: Aaniin I was curious on what enrollment you were talking about being reopened. Is the Sault Tribe by chance? Megwetch Pat ( Minado Giizis - Spirit Woman) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anita Nelson" To: Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] re: Edouard Boisvert & Marquerite Shagocoui > I'm too tired too figure that out. ha ha. > I spent the afternoon washing, cooking, and packing. In between time, > tried to straighten up all my files. I had a mess from digging through all > my material the last few weeks. I cannot believe what I have collected over > the years. > I have gotten three calls since the news about the enrollment being > re-opened. One called me at work because of my unlisted number. Good > thing I made copies of the application. I tried to tell people that not > all are going to be enrolled. It depends on the situation. > > Would appreciate the copy. megwetch > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Petosky" > To: > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:18 PM > Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] re: Edouard Boisvert & Marquerite Shagocoui > > > > Anita: > > > > Marquerite Katahiujenj is the same person as Shagocoui. Try and figure > that one out? > > > > I am going to scan you that other half of the paperwork you need next. > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > Anita Nelson wrote: > > Received. Interesting. Where does the Marguerite Katahiujenj fit in? to > > this family. I have this name written on a piece of paper. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Paul Petosky" > > > > To: > > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 1:15 PM > > Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] re: Edouard Boisvert & Marquerite Shagocoui > > > > > > > Heather: > > > > > > Thanks for the fast response. I appreciated all the help on that > mystery. > > NOW to solve the big mystery.............. > > > > > > WHO WERE MY GGG GRANDMOTHER MARQUERITE SHAGOCOUI'S MOTHER & FATHER AND > > WHERE WAS MARGUERITE BORN AND WHEN DID SHE DIE? > > > > > > > > > Can anyone help me out. > > > > > > Many thanks. > > > > > > Happy Thanksgiving to all... > > > > > > Paul E. Petosky > > > > > > paul_petosky@yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sneakers wrote: > > > Hi Paul > > > > > > Angeline (Boisvoir) Ermatinger would be a daughter of Edward Boisvert > and > > > Marguerite Shagocoui. > > > > > > Charles ERMATINGER, Also known as William ARMATINGER, born Mar 1833 in > MI. > > > Son of Thomas McKee ERMATINGER, born 1800/6, died c. 1850 in Sault Ste. > > > Marie, Chippewa Co., MI.and Genevieve"Jane" SPENARD, Also known as > > > SPENON/SPENCER, 11 Jan 1826 in Mackinac Co., MI,[2] born c. 1805 in MI, > > > (daughter of Charles SPINARD and Genevieve DuFAUT/LaFANT). > > > > > > Charles married Mary Adeline Angeline BOISVERT, married (religious) 21 > Jan > > > 1861 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI,[3] born c. 1842/Aug 1846, > > > (daughter of Edward BOISVERT and Mary Marguerite SHAGOCOUI). > > > > > > Children: > > > > > > i Catherine b. c. 1864. > > > > > > ii Edward ERMATINGER, born c. 1862/6. > > > > > > iii Thomas ERMATINGER, born 1868. > > > > > > iv William ERMATINGER, born Nov 1872.[4] > > > > > > v Frank ERMATINGER, born Sept 1876.[5] > > > > > > vi Mary L. ERMATINGER, born May 1878. > > > > > > vii Maria b. Mar 1881. > > > > > > In addition, I found several years ago, Boisvert being associated to the > > > surname of Larose. > > > Perhaps the surname originates from the old French naming of Boisvert > dit > > > Larose or Larose dit Bosivert. > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > Heather > > > sneakers@sympatico.ca > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Paul Petosky" > > > > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 2:22 AM > > > Subject: [NISHNAWBE] re: Edouard Boisvert & Marquerite Shagocoui > > > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone: > > > > > > > > I am trying to solve a mystery possibly somebody can help me out on. > > > > > > > > First of all my ggg grandparents are Edouard Boisvert and Marquerite > > > (Shagocoui). They were married in Sault Sainte Marie, MI on February 15, > > > 1832. > > > > > > > > Edouard was born in 1790 in Canada and Marquerite was born also in > > Canada > > > in 1805. In the 1850 Chippewa County Census it shows Edward Boisvert > > > (Boisant) age 60, Marquerite 45, Catherine 17, Edward 14, Julia 12, > Joseph > > > 10 and Mary 8. > > > > > > > > My problem is: I cannot find any records showing my ggg grandmother > > > Marquerite Shagocoui's place of birth or place of death, nor can I find > > out > > > who her parents were. She appears on the 1870 Annuity roll of the Ottawa > & > > > Chippewa Indians as Mrs. Edward Bois-bair, Ref. 34-3, SSM. Edward > Bosvert, > > > appears as mixed blood Ref. #85 on 1855 Annuity roll of the Ottawa & > > > Chippewa Indians. > > > > > > > > Now the real cliff hanger: What relationship is Angeline (Boisvoir) > > > Ermatinger to my ggg grandfather Edouard Boisvert? Angeline is listed in > > the > > > 1870 Annuity rolls Ref: 34-3. > > > > > > > > Many thanks for any and all information you can provide me. > > > > > > > > Paul E. 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Anita, A question: in NISHNAWBE Thursday, 18 Nov 2004; 12:51 am, you make the statement that Benjamin LIBERTY was married to Marie ERMATINGER and he was the brother of Godfrey and they were sons of Benjamin LALIBERTE & Rosalie LAGACE. Then in NISHNAWBE Friday 19, 2004; 8:13 (thisone below), you state Benjamin LIBERTY�s mother was Marie LIBERTY BIBEAU, dau. of Godfrey LIBERTY & Josephte LACOY. Which is correct? Thanks, Jim. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anita Nelson" <anelson1@jamadots.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:13 AM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Ermatinger/Thanks > Oh my goodness. Thank you, Jim, and all others for your response.. Your > time is appreciated. Thought my father was just friends with this family. > He often mentioned them, especially Leonard. I had no idea the families > were connected until now. BENJAMIN LIBERTY AND MARIA ERMATINGER would be > my > great uncle and aunt on my father's side. His mother was MARIE > LIBERTY/LALIBERTE BIBEAU/BEBO, daughter of GODFREY LIBERTY AND > JOSEPHTE/JOSETTE LACOY/LACAILLE. Anita > > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

I'm too tired too figure that out. ha ha. I spent the afternoon washing, cooking, and packing. In between time, tried to straighten up all my files. I had a mess from digging through all my material the last few weeks. I cannot believe what I have collected over the years. I have gotten three calls since the news about the enrollment being re-opened. One called me at work because of my unlisted number. Good thing I made copies of the application. I tried to tell people that not all are going to be enrolled. It depends on the situation. Would appreciate the copy. megwetch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Petosky" <paul_petosky@yahoo.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] re: Edouard Boisvert & Marquerite Shagocoui > Anita: > > Marquerite Katahiujenj is the same person as Shagocoui. Try and figure that one out? > > I am going to scan you that other half of the paperwork you need next. > > Paul > > > > Anita Nelson <anelson1@jamadots.com> wrote: > Received. Interesting. Where does the Marguerite Katahiujenj fit in? to > this family. I have this name written on a piece of paper. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Petosky" > > To: > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 1:15 PM > Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] re: Edouard Boisvert & Marquerite Shagocoui > > > > Heather: > > > > Thanks for the fast response. I appreciated all the help on that mystery. > NOW to solve the big mystery.............. > > > > WHO WERE MY GGG GRANDMOTHER MARQUERITE SHAGOCOUI'S MOTHER & FATHER AND > WHERE WAS MARGUERITE BORN AND WHEN DID SHE DIE? > > > > > > Can anyone help me out. > > > > Many thanks. > > > > Happy Thanksgiving to all... > > > > Paul E. Petosky > > > > paul_petosky@yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sneakers wrote: > > Hi Paul > > > > Angeline (Boisvoir) Ermatinger would be a daughter of Edward Boisvert and > > Marguerite Shagocoui. > > > > Charles ERMATINGER, Also known as William ARMATINGER, born Mar 1833 in MI. > > Son of Thomas McKee ERMATINGER, born 1800/6, died c. 1850 in Sault Ste. > > Marie, Chippewa Co., MI.and Genevieve"Jane" SPENARD, Also known as > > SPENON/SPENCER, 11 Jan 1826 in Mackinac Co., MI,[2] born c. 1805 in MI, > > (daughter of Charles SPINARD and Genevieve DuFAUT/LaFANT). > > > > Charles married Mary Adeline Angeline BOISVERT, married (religious) 21 Jan > > 1861 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI,[3] born c. 1842/Aug 1846, > > (daughter of Edward BOISVERT and Mary Marguerite SHAGOCOUI). > > > > Children: > > > > i Catherine b. c. 1864. > > > > ii Edward ERMATINGER, born c. 1862/6. > > > > iii Thomas ERMATINGER, born 1868. > > > > iv William ERMATINGER, born Nov 1872.[4] > > > > v Frank ERMATINGER, born Sept 1876.[5] > > > > vi Mary L. ERMATINGER, born May 1878. > > > > vii Maria b. Mar 1881. > > > > In addition, I found several years ago, Boisvert being associated to the > > surname of Larose. > > Perhaps the surname originates from the old French naming of Boisvert dit > > Larose or Larose dit Bosivert. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Heather > > sneakers@sympatico.ca > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Paul Petosky" > > > > To: > > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 2:22 AM > > Subject: [NISHNAWBE] re: Edouard Boisvert & Marquerite Shagocoui > > > > > > > Hi Everyone: > > > > > > I am trying to solve a mystery possibly somebody can help me out on. > > > > > > First of all my ggg grandparents are Edouard Boisvert and Marquerite > > (Shagocoui). They were married in Sault Sainte Marie, MI on February 15, > > 1832. > > > > > > Edouard was born in 1790 in Canada and Marquerite was born also in > Canada > > in 1805. In the 1850 Chippewa County Census it shows Edward Boisvert > > (Boisant) age 60, Marquerite 45, Catherine 17, Edward 14, Julia 12, Joseph > > 10 and Mary 8. > > > > > > My problem is: I cannot find any records showing my ggg grandmother > > Marquerite Shagocoui's place of birth or place of death, nor can I find > out > > who her parents were. She appears on the 1870 Annuity roll of the Ottawa & > > Chippewa Indians as Mrs. Edward Bois-bair, Ref. 34-3, SSM. Edward Bosvert, > > appears as mixed blood Ref. #85 on 1855 Annuity roll of the Ottawa & > > Chippewa Indians. > > > > > > Now the real cliff hanger: What relationship is Angeline (Boisvoir) > > Ermatinger to my ggg grandfather Edouard Boisvert? Angeline is listed in > the > > 1870 Annuity rolls Ref: 34-3. > > > > > > Many thanks for any and all information you can provide me. > > > > > > Paul E. 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Here is what I have on the BOISVERTs, additions/corrections appreciated, thanks, Jim. 1. Edward BOISVERT, Also known as Edouard, born c. 1790 in CAN, died 24 Jun 1883 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, occupation sailor, farmer. He married Mary Marguerite SHAGOCOUI, Also known as KATAHIUJENJ, 15 Feb 1832 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI,[1] (see note 1) born c. 1805 in CAN. Mary: Durant #34-3. Children: 2. i Catherine b. c. 1833. ii Edward BOISVERT, born c. 1836 in MI. No heirs. iii Julia BOISVERT, born c. 1838 in MI. No children. iv Joseph BOISVERT, born c. 1840 in MI. 3. v Mary Adeline Angeline b. c. 1842/Aug 1846. Second Generation 2. Catherine BOISVERT, born c. 1833 in CAN. She married (1) Francis TRACY, 23 Jul 1855 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI,[2] born c. 1817. She married (2) _____ DAY. Children: i Alex DAY, born c. 1855.[3] Could he actually be from the 1st marriage? ii Mary DAY. She married _____ GAYGER. iii Julia DAY. She married _____ THOMAS. iv Henry DAY, born c. 1867.[4] v Jennie DAY, born c. 1872.[5] She married _____ WILSON. 3. Mary Adeline Angeline BOISVERT, born c. 1842/Aug 1846. She married Charles ERMATINGER, Also known as William ARMATINGER, married (religious) 21 Jan 1861 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI,[6] born Mar 1833 in MI, (son of Thomas McKee ERMATINGER and Genevieve"Jane" SPENARD). Children: 4. i Catherine b. c. 1864. ii Edward ERMATINGER, born c. 1862/6. iii Thomas ERMATINGER, born 1868. iv William ERMATINGER, born Nov 1872.[7] Not mentioned in Durant. Vicki Moorhead says he married Dora JONES. v Frank ERMATINGER, born Sept 1876.[8] Not mentioned in Durant. vi Mary L. ERMATINGER, born May 1878. Not mentioned in Durant. 5. vii Maria b. Mar 1881. Third Generation 4. Catherine ERMATINGER, born c. 1864.[9] She married _____ STERLING. Children: i Charles STIRLING, born c. 1887. ii Elmer STIRLING, born c. 1889.[10] iii Henry STIRLING, born c. 1894.[11] iv Eva STIRLING, born c. 1897. v Clyde STIRLING, born c. 1903. 5. Maria ERMATINGER, born Mar 1881. She married Benjamin LIBERTY, Also known as LaLIBERTE, born Sept 1868,[12] (son of Benjamin LALIBERTE and Rosalie LAGACE). Children: i Raymond LIBERTY, born c. 1900.[13] ii Eveline LIBERTY, born c. 1902.[14] iii Lenore LIBERTY, born c. 1904.[15] iv Benjamin Charles LIBERTY. v Leonard LIBERTY. Note 1 Does not seem to be in the published listings. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1] Petoskey, Paul <paul_petoskey@yahoo.com>, NISHNAWBE mail list (RootsWeb, 18 Jun 2004). [2] Chippewa Co., MI, Chippewa Co., MI Marriage Records. [3] Durant, Horace B., Durant Field Notes (1907-8), #34-3. [4] Durant, Horace B., Durant Field Notes (1907-8), #34-3. [5] Durant, Horace B., Durant Field Notes (1907-8), #34-3. [6] Hamelin, Julien, Moyen-Nord Ontarien (Le Centre de Genealogie S.C., Ottawa, Ont., CAN, 1985), v. 11, p. 69. [7] Moorhead, Vicki <michippewa2@aol.com>, Ermatinger=Armatinger (NISHNAWBE Mailing List, 18 Nov 2004; 8:35pm). [8] Moorhead, Vicki <michippewa2@aol.com>, Ermatinger=Armatinger (NISHNAWBE Mailing List, 18 Nov 2004; 8:35pm). [9] Durant, Horace B., Durant Field Notes (1907-8), #34-3. [10] Durant, Horace B., Durant Field Notes (1907-8), #34-3. [11] Durant, Horace B., Durant Field Notes (1907-8), #34-3. [12] Moorhead, Vicki <michippewa2@aol.com>, Ermatinger=Armatinger (NISHNAWBE Mailing List, 18 Nov 2004; 8:35pm). [13] Durant, Horace B., Durant Field Notes (1907-8), #34-3. [14] Durant, Horace B., Durant Field Notes (1907-8), #34-3. [15] Durant, Horace B., Durant Field Notes (1907-8), #34-3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Petosky" <paul_petosky@yahoo.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 6:17 PM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Re: Updated information (Edouard & Marguerite Boisvert) > Updated information on my ggg grandmother. After checking over documents > my ggg grandmother Marquerite Shagocoui is also listed as Mary Marquerite > Katahinjenj........can anyone shed any light on this. > > She was married to Edouard Boisvert in Sault Sainte Marie, MI on February > 15, 1832. > > Thanks again for all your help. > > Paul E. Petosky > paul_petosky@yahoo.com > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Hope this comes through ok. Let me know. Paul Paul Petosky <ppetosky@chartermi.net> wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Petosky To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Cc: jplalone@prodigy.net Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:00 PM Subject: re: Alexander Day & Catherine Boisvert Jim: Many thanks for the information on my ggg grandparents Edouard & Marguerite Boisvert. I received all the e-mails A-OK! I have attached a marriage certificate showing that Alexander Clarence Day & Catherine Boisvert were married on 24 Feb 1852 in Sault Sainte Marie, MI. Catherine then married Francis (Frank) Tracy, aka Tacey, Tacy, Texier, Tessier on 23 July 1855 in Sault Sainte Marie, MI. Catherine Day died on November 8, 1897 in Sault Sainte Marie, MI. This is what threw me off...for awhile I thought their were two Catherine Boisvert's. Now we have the mystery solved! When Catherine married Francis Tacey (my gg grandparents).....they had a daughter named Alice.......Alice married James M. Clark(e), (my g grandparents), their daughter Anna, married Samuel L. McMullen (my grandparents), Sam & Anna had two children, Hazel (my mom) and Clinton. So, this is where I fit in the bloodline of the Chippewa Indians. I really appreciate everyones help, and if their is something else that I should know about and have left out in my lineage let me know. Thanks, Paul E. Petosky paul_petosky@yahoo.com > ATTACHMENT part 2 image/jpeg name=~MAP0001.jpg --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! � Get yours free!

> ... on the MayFlower. I meant to say Richard Warren. There you go -- Richard Warren, age 40, was indeed on the "Mayflower" and signed the Compact. regards - rdw

Received. Interesting. Where does the Marguerite Katahiujenj fit in? to this family. I have this name written on a piece of paper. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Petosky" <paul_petosky@yahoo.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] re: Edouard Boisvert & Marquerite Shagocoui > Heather: > > Thanks for the fast response. I appreciated all the help on that mystery. NOW to solve the big mystery.............. > > WHO WERE MY GGG GRANDMOTHER MARQUERITE SHAGOCOUI'S MOTHER & FATHER AND WHERE WAS MARGUERITE BORN AND WHEN DID SHE DIE? > > > Can anyone help me out. > > Many thanks. > > Happy Thanksgiving to all... > > Paul E. Petosky > > paul_petosky@yahoo.com > > > > > > > Sneakers <sneakers@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Hi Paul > > Angeline (Boisvoir) Ermatinger would be a daughter of Edward Boisvert and > Marguerite Shagocoui. > > Charles ERMATINGER, Also known as William ARMATINGER, born Mar 1833 in MI. > Son of Thomas McKee ERMATINGER, born 1800/6, died c. 1850 in Sault Ste. > Marie, Chippewa Co., MI.and Genevieve"Jane" SPENARD, Also known as > SPENON/SPENCER, 11 Jan 1826 in Mackinac Co., MI,[2] born c. 1805 in MI, > (daughter of Charles SPINARD and Genevieve DuFAUT/LaFANT). > > Charles married Mary Adeline Angeline BOISVERT, married (religious) 21 Jan > 1861 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI,[3] born c. 1842/Aug 1846, > (daughter of Edward BOISVERT and Mary Marguerite SHAGOCOUI). > > Children: > > i Catherine b. c. 1864. > > ii Edward ERMATINGER, born c. 1862/6. > > iii Thomas ERMATINGER, born 1868. > > iv William ERMATINGER, born Nov 1872.[4] > > v Frank ERMATINGER, born Sept 1876.[5] > > vi Mary L. ERMATINGER, born May 1878. > > vii Maria b. Mar 1881. > > In addition, I found several years ago, Boisvert being associated to the > surname of Larose. > Perhaps the surname originates from the old French naming of Boisvert dit > Larose or Larose dit Bosivert. > > Hope this helps. > > Heather > sneakers@sympatico.ca > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Petosky" > > To: > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 2:22 AM > Subject: [NISHNAWBE] re: Edouard Boisvert & Marquerite Shagocoui > > > > Hi Everyone: > > > > I am trying to solve a mystery possibly somebody can help me out on. > > > > First of all my ggg grandparents are Edouard Boisvert and Marquerite > (Shagocoui). They were married in Sault Sainte Marie, MI on February 15, > 1832. > > > > Edouard was born in 1790 in Canada and Marquerite was born also in Canada > in 1805. In the 1850 Chippewa County Census it shows Edward Boisvert > (Boisant) age 60, Marquerite 45, Catherine 17, Edward 14, Julia 12, Joseph > 10 and Mary 8. > > > > My problem is: I cannot find any records showing my ggg grandmother > Marquerite Shagocoui's place of birth or place of death, nor can I find out > who her parents were. She appears on the 1870 Annuity roll of the Ottawa & > Chippewa Indians as Mrs. Edward Bois-bair, Ref. 34-3, SSM. Edward Bosvert, > appears as mixed blood Ref. #85 on 1855 Annuity roll of the Ottawa & > Chippewa Indians. > > > > Now the real cliff hanger: What relationship is Angeline (Boisvoir) > Ermatinger to my ggg grandfather Edouard Boisvert? Angeline is listed in the > 1870 Annuity rolls Ref: 34-3. > > > > Many thanks for any and all information you can provide me. > > > > Paul E. Petosky > > paul_petosky@yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! > > > > > > ============================== > > Search our Immigration Records and view names from multiple ports > > ranging from 1500s - 1900s. Over 23 million records to view. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13967/rd.ashx > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Meet the all-new My Yahoo! – Try it today! > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

Updated information on my ggg grandmother. After checking over documents my ggg grandmother Marquerite Shagocoui is also listed as Mary Marquerite Katahinjenj........can anyone shed any light on this. She was married to Edouard Boisvert in Sault Sainte Marie, MI on February 15, 1832. Thanks again for all your help. Paul E. Petosky paul_petosky@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Anita: Marquerite Katahiujenj is the same person as Shagocoui. Try and figure that one out? I am going to scan you that other half of the paperwork you need next. Paul Anita Nelson <anelson1@jamadots.com> wrote: Received. Interesting. Where does the Marguerite Katahiujenj fit in? to this family. I have this name written on a piece of paper. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Petosky" To: Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] re: Edouard Boisvert & Marquerite Shagocoui > Heather: > > Thanks for the fast response. I appreciated all the help on that mystery. NOW to solve the big mystery.............. > > WHO WERE MY GGG GRANDMOTHER MARQUERITE SHAGOCOUI'S MOTHER & FATHER AND WHERE WAS MARGUERITE BORN AND WHEN DID SHE DIE? > > > Can anyone help me out. > > Many thanks. > > Happy Thanksgiving to all... > > Paul E. Petosky > > paul_petosky@yahoo.com > > > > > > > Sneakers wrote: > Hi Paul > > Angeline (Boisvoir) Ermatinger would be a daughter of Edward Boisvert and > Marguerite Shagocoui. > > Charles ERMATINGER, Also known as William ARMATINGER, born Mar 1833 in MI. > Son of Thomas McKee ERMATINGER, born 1800/6, died c. 1850 in Sault Ste. > Marie, Chippewa Co., MI.and Genevieve"Jane" SPENARD, Also known as > SPENON/SPENCER, 11 Jan 1826 in Mackinac Co., MI,[2] born c. 1805 in MI, > (daughter of Charles SPINARD and Genevieve DuFAUT/LaFANT). > > Charles married Mary Adeline Angeline BOISVERT, married (religious) 21 Jan > 1861 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI,[3] born c. 1842/Aug 1846, > (daughter of Edward BOISVERT and Mary Marguerite SHAGOCOUI). > > Children: > > i Catherine b. c. 1864. > > ii Edward ERMATINGER, born c. 1862/6. > > iii Thomas ERMATINGER, born 1868. > > iv William ERMATINGER, born Nov 1872.[4] > > v Frank ERMATINGER, born Sept 1876.[5] > > vi Mary L. ERMATINGER, born May 1878. > > vii Maria b. Mar 1881. > > In addition, I found several years ago, Boisvert being associated to the > surname of Larose. > Perhaps the surname originates from the old French naming of Boisvert dit > Larose or Larose dit Bosivert. > > Hope this helps. > > Heather > sneakers@sympatico.ca > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Petosky" > > To: > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 2:22 AM > Subject: [NISHNAWBE] re: Edouard Boisvert & Marquerite Shagocoui > > > > Hi Everyone: > > > > I am trying to solve a mystery possibly somebody can help me out on. > > > > First of all my ggg grandparents are Edouard Boisvert and Marquerite > (Shagocoui). They were married in Sault Sainte Marie, MI on February 15, > 1832. > > > > Edouard was born in 1790 in Canada and Marquerite was born also in Canada > in 1805. In the 1850 Chippewa County Census it shows Edward Boisvert > (Boisant) age 60, Marquerite 45, Catherine 17, Edward 14, Julia 12, Joseph > 10 and Mary 8. > > > > My problem is: I cannot find any records showing my ggg grandmother > Marquerite Shagocoui's place of birth or place of death, nor can I find out > who her parents were. She appears on the 1870 Annuity roll of the Ottawa & > Chippewa Indians as Mrs. Edward Bois-bair, Ref. 34-3, SSM. Edward Bosvert, > appears as mixed blood Ref. #85 on 1855 Annuity roll of the Ottawa & > Chippewa Indians. > > > > Now the real cliff hanger: What relationship is Angeline (Boisvoir) > Ermatinger to my ggg grandfather Edouard Boisvert? Angeline is listed in the > 1870 Annuity rolls Ref: 34-3. > > > > Many thanks for any and all information you can provide me. > > > > Paul E. Petosky > > paul_petosky@yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! > > > > > > ============================== > > Search our Immigration Records and view names from multiple ports > > ranging from 1500s - 1900s. Over 23 million records to view. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13967/rd.ashx > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Meet the all-new My Yahoo! � Try it today! > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! � Get yours free!

> ... Richard Ermatimger who came to the New World ... on the May Flower Ship.. No ERMATINGER or similar name on passenger list of 1620 Mayflower which landed at Plymouth MA, nor is there on the Mayflower Compact signed by its male colonists. regards - rdw

Heather: Thanks for the fast response. I appreciated all the help on that mystery. NOW to solve the big mystery.............. WHO WERE MY GGG GRANDMOTHER MARQUERITE SHAGOCOUI'S MOTHER & FATHER AND WHERE WAS MARGUERITE BORN AND WHEN DID SHE DIE? Can anyone help me out. Many thanks. Happy Thanksgiving to all... Paul E. Petosky paul_petosky@yahoo.com Sneakers <sneakers@sympatico.ca> wrote: Hi Paul Angeline (Boisvoir) Ermatinger would be a daughter of Edward Boisvert and Marguerite Shagocoui. Charles ERMATINGER, Also known as William ARMATINGER, born Mar 1833 in MI. Son of Thomas McKee ERMATINGER, born 1800/6, died c. 1850 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI.and Genevieve"Jane" SPENARD, Also known as SPENON/SPENCER, 11 Jan 1826 in Mackinac Co., MI,[2] born c. 1805 in MI, (daughter of Charles SPINARD and Genevieve DuFAUT/LaFANT). Charles married Mary Adeline Angeline BOISVERT, married (religious) 21 Jan 1861 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI,[3] born c. 1842/Aug 1846, (daughter of Edward BOISVERT and Mary Marguerite SHAGOCOUI). Children: i Catherine b. c. 1864. ii Edward ERMATINGER, born c. 1862/6. iii Thomas ERMATINGER, born 1868. iv William ERMATINGER, born Nov 1872.[4] v Frank ERMATINGER, born Sept 1876.[5] vi Mary L. ERMATINGER, born May 1878. vii Maria b. Mar 1881. In addition, I found several years ago, Boisvert being associated to the surname of Larose. Perhaps the surname originates from the old French naming of Boisvert dit Larose or Larose dit Bosivert. Hope this helps. Heather sneakers@sympatico.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Petosky" To: Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 2:22 AM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] re: Edouard Boisvert & Marquerite Shagocoui > Hi Everyone: > > I am trying to solve a mystery possibly somebody can help me out on. > > First of all my ggg grandparents are Edouard Boisvert and Marquerite (Shagocoui). They were married in Sault Sainte Marie, MI on February 15, 1832. > > Edouard was born in 1790 in Canada and Marquerite was born also in Canada in 1805. In the 1850 Chippewa County Census it shows Edward Boisvert (Boisant) age 60, Marquerite 45, Catherine 17, Edward 14, Julia 12, Joseph 10 and Mary 8. > > My problem is: I cannot find any records showing my ggg grandmother Marquerite Shagocoui's place of birth or place of death, nor can I find out who her parents were. She appears on the 1870 Annuity roll of the Ottawa & Chippewa Indians as Mrs. Edward Bois-bair, Ref. 34-3, SSM. Edward Bosvert, appears as mixed blood Ref. #85 on 1855 Annuity roll of the Ottawa & Chippewa Indians. > > Now the real cliff hanger: What relationship is Angeline (Boisvoir) Ermatinger to my ggg grandfather Edouard Boisvert? Angeline is listed in the 1870 Annuity rolls Ref: 34-3. > > Many thanks for any and all information you can provide me. > > Paul E. Petosky > paul_petosky@yahoo.com > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! > > > ============================== > Search our Immigration Records and view names from multiple ports > ranging from 1500s - 1900s. Over 23 million records to view. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13967/rd.ashx > --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! � Try it today!

HI Anita I made a mistake on the name of Richard Ermatinger who I said came over on the MayFlower. I meant to say Richard Warren. I believe it was Maria who was frist married to Wyman Warren then she married Ermatinger when Wyman died on a ship coming to Detroit due to ill health. Will have to check my records on this one. Jim thank you for the extra infromation that I did not have on the Ermatinger family. Vicki Moorhead

Oh my goodness. Thank you, Jim, and all others for your response.. Your time is appreciated. Thought my father was just friends with this family. He often mentioned them, especially Leonard. I had no idea the families were connected until now. BENJAMIN LIBERTY AND MARIA ERMATINGER would be my great uncle and aunt on my father's side. His mother was MARIE LIBERTY/LALIBERTE BIBEAU/BEBO, daughter of GODFREY LIBERTY AND JOSEPHTE/JOSETTE LACOY/LACAILLE. Anita

Thanks Vicki. My family often mentioned this family. Escpecially Leonard. I did not know one of my family members married into the family until I saw it on the Sault Tribe Enrollment Field Notes. Anita ----- Original Message ----- From: <Michippewa2@aol.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 8:35 PM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Ermatinger=Armatinger > Anita > Here is what I have on the Ermatinger farmily. If you take it back father it > will take you to Richard Ermatimger who came to the New World as history > protriats it... on the May Flower Ship.. > > William Ermationger-Armatinger Dob Mar 1833 Michigan married Angeline born > Aug 1846 > children are: > 1. Edward born 1862 farmer > 2. Thomas born 1868 > 3. Mary L. born May 1878 > 4, Geo born 1863 died Jan 21 1929 married Mabel Jondrow born 1885 died Jan 29 > 1924 > Mabel died during child birth at the age of 39 and was known as Aunt Dosie > they had 3 children John,Abner and baby boy who died with Mabel > 5. William born Nov 1872 married Dora Jones > 6. Maria born Mar 1881 married Benjamin Liberty in 1898 > 7. Catherine who married ? Sterling Catherine was born Mar 1863 and died Feb > 23 192 > 8. Frank Sept 1876 > > Notes for Benjamin Liberty and Maria Ermatinger > Benjamin was born Sept 1868 in Canda Ben and Marie had the following children > Benjamin Charles > Leuara maybe Laura > Leonard > > William and Dora had the following children > Norman > Irene > Mary > > Mabel Jondreau-Johndrow > dau of Henry and Alice Lacallie-Lacoy > > Vicki Moorhead > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

37. Robert R. ERMATINGER, born c. 1875. He married Ida _____, born c. 1878. Children: i Frederick ERMATINGER, born c. 1897. ii Hazel ERMATINGER, born c. 1900. iii Edward ERMATINGER, born c. 1902. iv Ruth ERMATINGER, born c. 1904. v Elmer ERMATINGER, born c. 1905. 38. Matilda ERMATINGER, born c. 1887/91 in MI. She married Leo LaCOY, 30 Sept 1910 in Baie de Wasig, Chippewa Co., MI, born c. 1889/90 in MI, (son of Joseph LACAILLE/LaCOY and Jane BONNO) died 27 Apr 1953. Children: i _____ LaCOY. ii Mary Matilda LaCOY, born 17 Jul 1916, died 25 Mar 1917. iii Alice LaCOY. iv Earl LaCOY. v Leona LaCOY. vi Laura LaCOY. vii Leo LaCOY. 39. Mary Agnes CAMPBELL, born 29 Mar 1877 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, died 13 Aug 1941 in MI, buried 16 Aug 1941 in Riverside Cem., nr. SSM, Chippewa Co., MI. She married John B. LARAMIE, born 26 Mar 1872 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, (son of Michael LARAMIE and Harriet PLAUNT) died 9 Jun 1944 in Flint, Genesee Co., MI, buried 14 Jun 1944 in Riverside Cem., nr. SSM, Chippewa Co., MI. Children: i Joseph LARAMIE, born c. 1892. ii Leo LARAMIE, born c. 1894. iii Lucile LARAMIE, born c. 1903. iv Thelma LARAMIE, born c. 1905. 40. Hattie CAMPBELL, born c. 1880. She married John ROBINSON. Children: i Nina ROBINSON, born c. 1899. ii Earl ROBINSON, born c. 1901. iii Tom ROBINSON, born c. 1903. iv John ROBINSON, born c. 1906. 41. Alfred A. WARREN, born 1 Jul 1844 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI, baptized 11 Aug 1844 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI. He married (1) Lizette ROY. He married (2) unknown. Children: i _____ WARREN. 42. William Vincent Tyler WARREN, born 20 May 1848 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI, baptized 20 Aug 1848 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI, died Apr 1900. He married (1) Quay-nib, (daughter of Jack BUNGO and Dayda/Taydahcumahbequa). Children: i Grace E. WARREN, born 19 Nov 1882, died 3 Nov 1952. ii John WARREN, Also known as Pahzhegebenais. He married Ahbetahwashkudoo, Also known as Ahbitahwushkudan. iii Maggie WARREN, Also known as Mahkoonce. She married (1) unknown. She married (2) Louis ROY. He married (2) Mary Elizabeth HOLE-IN-THE-DAY, Also known as Isabelle/Kenese, born 29 Aug 1852 in Crow Wing, Crow Wing Co., MN, (daughter of Joseph HOLE-IN-THE-DAY Jr. and unknown) died 3 May 1875, buried in St. Benedict's, White Earth Ind. Res., MN. Children: iv William A. WARREN. He married (1) Eunice Brunette MORRISON. He married (2) Madeleine _____. v Wahbishkunegeanc WARREN. He married (3) Eunice Jane _____. Children: vi Madeleine WARREN. vii Alfred WARREN. viii Elizabeth Jane WARREN. She married _____ HEDDLE. He married (4) Ellen _____, Also known as Naynahkowubequay/Naynahcowubequay, born c. 1857 in Otter Trail Lake, MN, (daughter of Mahjegahbow and Mayzhuckeyausheq) died 5 Jul 1928 in Mahnomen Co., MN. Children: ix Annie L. WARREN. She married Charles GOODWIN. x Jessie Elizabeth WARREN. She married William ROBINSON, 28 Feb 1917. xi Izola Sophie WARREN. She married (1) George EARTH, Also known as Megiswaswaishkun/Megiswaywaishkun. She married (2) Frank MURRAY. He married (5) Mary Peyaunce Brands SMALL, (daughter of Mequahmais and Mahnahjewinay). Children: xii Isabelle WARREN. He married (6) Mahnahishtahnish, Also known as Lamb, born c. 1850, (daughter of Myahjebe/Mahahjebe and Kaygaybequay) died bef 1889. Children: xiii Mooshaince WARREN. xiv Ahjegahdayquay WARREN. He married (7) Margaret McDOUGALL. He married (8) Mary WEBSTER, Also known as Mindemoien/Mindemoyien, born c. 1859, (daughter of Naygwonabe/Negwanebi and Kojegerwequay) died Mar 1933. He married (9) Julia Cunayyean ROY, born c. 1874/5, (daughter of Joseph August ROY and Catherine ROY) died 8 Jan 1909. 43. Madeleine WARREN, born 1853, died Mar 1907. She married George URAN. Children: i William URAN. ii Charles URAN. iii Lewis/Louis Clinton URAN. Note 1 Her parents in MR are listed as M. & Catherine.

Fifth Generation 15. Rhoda Jane STILES, born c. 1842, died 1888. She married Peter Enoch OLMSTEAD. Children: i Amos Richard OLMSTEAD, born 1865. He married (1) Adeline CLOSS. He married (2) Augusta May WILLIAMS, 9 Nov 1898 in Detour, Chippewa Co., MI. ii Thomas B. OLMSTEAD, born 1869, died 1884. iii John E. OLMSTEAD, born 1874 in Detour, Chippewa Co., MI. He married Gracie M. BLADMAN. 28. iv Minnie Jane b. 1878. 16. Ursula/Sally STYLES, born c. 1846, died 10 Oct 1877 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI. She married Eli(as) GORNOR/GURNOE, 13 Apr 1863 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, married (religious) 13 Apr 1863 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI,[1] (see note 1) born c. 1832 in MI, (son of Louis GORNOR and Julia/Marie-Archange(l) NOLIN/CADOTTE) died 1898, occupation laborer. Children: i Louis GURNOE, born 22 Jan 1863 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, died 1929 in Bay Mills, Chippewa Co., MI. ii Edward GURNOE, born 6 Jan 1867 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI. iii Lawrence GURNOE, born 6/7 Feb 1869 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, died 24 Jul 1937 in Soo Twp., Chippewa Co., MI, occupation woodsman. iv Eli GURNOE, born 1 Aug 1872, died 1937, buried in Mission Hill Cem. v Jane GORNOR, born c. 1870 in MI, died 18 Oct 1894 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI. 17. Thomas ERMATINGER, born 19 Jan 1831 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, died 1896 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI. He married Mary CLARK, married (religious) 12 Jan 1852 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI,[2] (daughter of William CLARK and Lysa _____). Children: i George ERMATINGER, born c. 1857 in MI, died 26 May 1883 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI. 29. ii Lawrence/Laurence b. c. 1860/3. iii Mary ERMATINGER, born c. 1866 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, died 15 Nov 1870 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI. iv William Barlow ERMATINGER. 30. v William J. b. c. 1869. 31. vi Henry J. b. 2 Apr 1871. vii Louis ERMATINGER, born 11 Dec 1872 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI. viii Joseph"Jake" ERMATINGER, born c. 1873/7 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, died Apr 1873 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI. 18. Charles ERMATINGER, Also known as William ARMATINGER, born Mar 1833 in MI. He married Mary Adeline Angeline BOISVERT, married (religious) 21 Jan 1861 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI,[3] born c. 1842/Aug 1846, (daughter of Edward BOISVERT and Mary Marguerite SHAGOCOUI). Children: 32. i Catherine b. c. 1864. ii Edward ERMATINGER, born c. 1862/6. iii Thomas ERMATINGER, born 1868. iv William ERMATINGER, born Nov 1872.[4] v Frank ERMATINGER, born Sept 1876.[5] vi Mary L. ERMATINGER, born May 1878. 33. vii Maria b. Mar 1881. 19. John Leon ERMATINGER, born c. 1839/40/2 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, occupation laborer. He married Julia ROULEAU, 19 Apr 1863 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, married (religious) 19 Apr 1863 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI,[6] born c. 1842 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, (daughter of Jean-Baptiste ROULEAU and Mary Elizabeth MOKIGIJIGOKWE). Children: 34. i George b. c. 1863. 35. ii Maria b. c. 1869. 36. iii John Edward b. 22 Sept 1870. iv Mary Augusta ERMATINGER, born 27 Mar 1872 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI. She married Alfred HODGINS. 37. v Robert R. b. c. 1875. vi Charles ERMATINGER, born c. 1878. vii Lora ERMATINGER, born c. 1882. viii Lottie ERMATINGER, born c. 1885. 38. ix Matilda b. c. 1887/91. 20. Isabella ERMATINGER, born c. 1848 in MI, died 12 Feb 1920 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI. She married Joseph CAMPBELL, 13 Apr 1863 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, married (religious) 13 Apr 1863 in Sault Ste. Marie, Ont., CAN,[7] born c. 1843/5 in MI, (son of Jean-Baptiste CAMPBELL and Maria VISNAW) died 17 Apr 1919 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, occupation laborer. Children: i Joseph CAMPBELL Jr., born 1864. ii Thomas CAMPBELL, born 1867. iii Alfred CAMPBELL, born 23 Jan 1869 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, died 31 Dec 1870 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI. iv Mary Jane CAMPBELL, born 22 Jan 1871 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI. 39. v Mary Agnes b. 29 Mar 1877. 40. vi Hattie b. c. 1880. 21. Frederick William ERMATINGER, born 1 Jan 1847 in Riviere-de-Sauteux, baptized 17 Feb 1850 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI, died 3 Jun 1938 in Jim Falls, WI. He married Mary Rose TREPANIER, 11 Feb 1880 in Jim Falls, WI. Children: i Isaac William ERMATINGER. ii Charles Patrick ERMATINGER. iii Annie Julie ERMATINGER, born 13 Apr 1888 in Eagle Point, WI. iv James Clement ERMATINGER. v Sophie ERMATINGER. vi William ERMATINGER. 22. Charles Ermatinger PERRY, born 1834, died 1895. He married Louise SHORT. Children: i Charles PERRY. ii Edward Francis PERRY. 23. John AITKIN, Also known as Jeannes, born 9 Apr 1818 in St. Louis, baptized 31 Jul 1839 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI, died in Crow Wing, Crow Wing Co., MN. He married (1) Catherine ROI/ROY. Children: i Alexander AITKIN, born 26 Feb 1837 in St. Louis, baptized 1 Aug 1838 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI. ii Frederick AITKIN, born 21 Aug 1839, baptized 30 Aug 1839 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI. He married (2) Margaret GOURNOW. Children: iii Archibald AITKINS, born 29 May 1841 in Lac de la Langou, baptized 2 Jul 1842 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI. 24. Nancy/Anna AITKIN, born c. 1819, baptized 13 Sept 1835 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI. She married James P. SCOTT. Children: i Violette SCOTT, born c. 1839 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI. ii Marie Philomena SCOTT, born 9 Apr 1839, baptized 22 Apr 1839 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI. iii Philomena (Violet) SCOTT, born 7 Aug 1837, baptized 24 Oct 1838 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI. iv Jeanne Julia Elisabeth SCOTT, born 6 Nov 1840 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI, baptized 28 Feb 1841 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI. v Francoise Cornelia SCOTT, born 27 Mar 1842 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI, baptized 25 Dec 1842 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI. 25. Mathilda AIKENS/HECKON/AIKNE/AITKEN, born 13 Sept 1822 in Lac des Sables, MN, baptized 13 Sept 1835 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI, died 19 Oct 1902 in White Earth, Indian Res., MN. She married (1) William Whipple WARREN, 10 Aug 1843 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI, born 27 May 1825 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI, (son of Lyman Marquis WARREN and Marie/Mary CADOTTE) died 1 May 1852/3 in St. Paul, Ramsey Co., MN, buried 2 Jun 1853 in St. Paul, Ramsey Co., MN. Children: i William WARREN, born c. 1837. He married Susanna BELANGER, 16 Feb 1859 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI, born 8 Oct 1837 in Isle du Campement/Sandy Lake, MN, (daughter of Francois/Frank BELANGER and Elizabeth GAUDIN/GORDON) baptized 14 Jun 1838 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI. 41. ii Alfred A. b. 1 Jul 1844. iii Anna WARREN, born 23 Jul 1846 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI, baptized 23 Aug 1846 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI. iv Cordelia'Delia" WARREN, born c. 1846. 42. v William Vincent Tyler b. 20 May 1848. 43. vi Madeleine b. 1853. She married (2) Louis FONTAINE. She married (3) Samuel B. ABBE/ABBY. Children: vii Lillian/Lillie Warren ABBIA, born c. 1856. She married Warren McLAIN. 26. Roger AITKIN, born c. 1827/9 in St. Louis/MN, died 24 Jul 1912, military GAR. Partner Mary OBESHOW/OBEZAIN. He married (2) Olive _____. Children: i William AITKINS, born 1854 in MN. He married (3) Okesne ZENARDANCE. 27. Anne A. AITKIN, born c. 1831/2, baptized 13 Sept 1835 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI. She married Daniel David S. MOOERS. Children: i Samuel E. MOOERS. He married unknown. ii Carrie E. MOOERS. She married _____ COOPER. iii Carrie A. MOOERS. iv Charles G. MOOERS. Sixth Generation 28. Minnie Jane OLMSTEAD, born 1878, died 1949. She married Frederick Richard PAYMENT, 12 Aug 1901 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, born 16 Jun 1873 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, (son of Richard PAYMENT and Pauline SAUVE-PLANTE) died 10 May 1943 in Detour, Chippewa Co., MI. Children: i Rhoda Louise PAYMENT, born 14 Feb 1903 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, died 6 Mar 1997. ii Frederick Richard PAYMENT, born 15 Apr 1906, died 1966. iii Cecelia Mildred PAYMENT, born 1908, died 1993. iv Mary PAYMENT, born 1909, died 1970. v Florence B. PAYMENT, born 1913, died 1992. 29. Lawrence/Laurence ERMATINGER, born c. 1860/3 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, occupation laborer. He married (1) Georgiana TROTOCHAUD, 16 Apr 1883 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, married (religious) 16 Apr 1883 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI,[8] born c. 1863 in CAN, (daughter of Joseph TROTOCHAUD and Marie-Odille BELLEMARE) died 20 Feb 1890 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI. Children: i Joseph ERMATINGER, born c. 1881. He married Clara _____. ii Thomas ERMATINGER, born c. 1883. iii Lawrence ERMATINGER Jr., born c. 1886. iv Edwin ERMATINGER, born c. 1890. He married (2) Mary E. BERNIER?, 22 Jan 1894 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, born c. 1857 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, (daughter of Edward BERNIER? and Mary BOULON). 30. William J. ERMATINGER, born c. 1869 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI. He married Dora JONES, 4 Mar 1892 in Marquette, MI, born c. 1864 in St. John. Children: i Norman ERMATINGER, born c. 1893. ii Irene ERMATINGER, born c. 1896. iii Mary G. ERMATINGER, born c. 1899 in MI, died 29 Aug 1899 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI. 31. Henry J. ERMATINGER, born 2 Apr 1871 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI. He married Lillian _____. Children: i Reginald ERMATINGER, born c. 1897. 32. Catherine ERMATINGER, born c. 1864.[9] She married _____ STERLING. Children: i Charles STIRLING, born c. 1887. ii Elmer STIRLING, born c. 1889.[10] iii Henry STIRLING, born c. 1894.[11] iv Eva STIRLING, born c. 1897. v Clyde STIRLING, born c. 1903. 33. Maria ERMATINGER, born Mar 1881. She married Benjamin LIBERTY, Also known as LaLIBERTE, born Sept 1868,[12] (son of Benjamin LALIBERTE and Rosalie LAGACE). Children: i Raymond LIBERTY, born c. 1900.[13] ii Eveline LIBERTY, born c. 1902.[14] iii Lenore LIBERTY, born c. 1904.[15] iv Benjamin Charles LIBERTY. v Leonard LIBERTY. 34. George ERMANTINGER, born c. 1863 in MI, died 21 Jan 1929.[16] He married Mabel JONDREAU/SHONDRO, 12 Dec 1905 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, born c. 1884 in MI, (daughter of Henry JONDREAU/GENDRON and Alice LaCOY) died 29 Jan 1924.[17] Children: i John ERMATINGER, born c. 1904. ii Alma ERMATINGER, born c. 1906. 35. Maria ERMATINGER, born c. 1869. She married Fred WHITE. Children: i William WHITE, born c. 1893. ii Lena WHITE, born c. 1897. 36. John Edward ERMATINGER Jr., born 22 Sept 1870 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI. He married Mary Nellie PIQUETTE, 4 Jan 1896 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, born 22 Mar 1866 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, (daughter of Antoine PIQUETTE and Mary Adelaide BONNO) died 27 Jan 1945. Children: i Julia ERMATINGER, born c. 1895. ii Leonard ERMATINGER, born c. 1903. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1] Hamelin, Julien, Moyen-Nord Ontarien (Le Centre de Genealogie S.C., Ottawa, Ont., CAN, 1985), v. 11, p. 84. [2] Hamelin, Julien, Moyen-Nord Ontarien (Le Centre de Genealogie S.C., Ottawa, Ont., CAN, 1985), v. 11, p. 69. [3] Hamelin, Julien, Moyen-Nord Ontarien (Le Centre de Genealogie S.C., Ottawa, Ont., CAN, 1985), v. 11, p. 69. [4] Moorhead, Vicki <michippewa2@aol.com>, Ermatinger=Armatinger (NISHNAWBE Mailing List, 18 Nov 2004; 8:35pm). [5] Moorhead, Vicki <michippewa2@aol.com>, Ermatinger=Armatinger (NISHNAWBE Mailing List, 18 Nov 2004; 8:35pm). [6] Hamelin, Julien, Moyen-Nord Ontarien (Le Centre de Genealogie S.C., Ottawa, Ont., CAN, 1985), v. 11, p. 69. [7] Hamelin, Julien, Moyen-Nord Ontarien (Le Centre de Genealogie S.C., Ottawa, Ont., CAN, 1985), v. 11, p. 33. [8] Hamelin, Julien, Moyen-Nord Ontarien (Le Centre de Genealogie S.C., Ottawa, Ont., CAN, 1985), v. 11, p. 69. [9] Durant, Horace B., Durant Field Notes (1907-8), #34-3. [10] Durant, Horace B., Durant Field Notes (1907-8), #34-3. [11] Durant, Horace B., Durant Field Notes (1907-8), #34-3. [12] Moorhead, Vicki <michippewa2@aol.com>, Ermatinger=Armatinger (NISHNAWBE Mailing List, 18 Nov 2004; 8:35pm). [13] Durant, Horace B., Durant Field Notes (1907-8), #34-3. [14] Durant, Horace B., Durant Field Notes (1907-8), #34-3. [15] Durant, Horace B., Durant Field Notes (1907-8), #34-3. [16] Moorhead, Vicki <michippewa2@aol.com>, Ermatinger=Armatinger (NISHNAWBE Mailing List, 18 Nov 2004; 8:35pm). [17] Moorhead, Vicki <michippewa2@aol.com>, Ermatinger=Armatinger (NISHNAWBE Mailing List, 18 Nov 2004; 8:35pm).

This is what I have on the family, because it is 13 pages I am sending it in three parts, additions/corrections appreciated, thanks, Jim. 1. Laurenz ERMATINGER. He married Anna Maria BUHL. Children: 2. i Laurenz. Second Generation 2. Laurenz ERMATINGER,[1] baptized 29 Oct 1736 in Schaffhausen, SWITZ, died 6 Oct 1789 in Montreal, Qc., CAN. He married Jemima OAKES, c. 1763 in Montreal, Qc., CAN, married (religious) 1764 in London, ENG, (daughter of Joseph OAKES and Jemima _____). Children: i Jemima ERMATINGER, born 1765, died 1840. ii Margaret ERMATINGER, born 1766. iii Ann Mary ERMATINGER, born 1766, died 1836. She married George GARRETT, occupation Dr. 3. iv George Oakes b. 1766/70/80. 4. v Lawrence Edward b. 1767/72. vi Frederick William ERMATINGER, born 1769, died 1827, occupation Sheriff, Bank Director. 5. vii Charles Oakes b. 1776. Third Generation 3. George Oakes ERMATINGER, born 1766/70/80 in Montreal, Qc., CAN, died Apr 1841 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI. He married (1) Mary MACDONALD. Children: i George ERMATINGER, born 1798, died 1841. He married Elizabeth MacDOUGAL. He married (2) Mary Kathryn/Catherine McKEE, 1803, (daughter of Thomas McKEE and Therese ASKIN/ERSKINE). Children: 6. ii Catherine Jemima b. c. 1826. 7. iii Thomas McKee b. 1800/6. 8. iv James Rough b. 3 Oct 1808. v Anna Maria ERMATINGER. She married James W. ABBOTT. vi Theresa ERMATINGER. vii Eliza ERMATINGER, born c. 1822. She married John James STANARDS. viii Jane ERMATINGER, born c. 1824. She married Edward S. LORELL, 24 Oct 1840 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, born c. 1822. ix Lawrence William ERMATINGER, born 24 Jan 1827, baptized in Ste-Anne's, Mackinac Is., Mackinac Co., died 20 Sept 1866. x Elisha ERMATINGER. 4. Lawrence Edward ERMATINGER, born 1767/72 in Isle of Elba, Italy, died 1829. He married unknown. Children: 9. i Edward b. 1797. 10. ii Francis b. 1798. 5. Charles Oakes ERMATINGER, born 1776 in Montreal, Qc., CAN, died 4 Sept 1853 in Montreal, Qc., CAN, occupation Fur Trader. He married Charlotte/Mananowe KATAWEBDA, c.1800, (daughter of Katawabeda/Broken-Tooth and Ombemegiizhigakwe) died 1880. Children: i Ann ERMATINGER, born 1800, died 1817. ii Charles Oakes ERMATINGER Jr., born 1802, died 1857. 11. iii Frances b. 1804. iv George ERMATINGER, born 1806, died 1822. 12. v Jemima b. 1808. 13. vi Madeleine b. c. 1795/1808. vii Edward ERMATINGER, died 1822. 14. viii Frederick William b. 1811. ix James ERMATINGER, born 1815, died 1866/90. x Jane ERMATINGER, born 1815, died 1875. She married Edward S. LOVELL, 1840. xi John ERMATINGER, born 1817, died 1817. xii Lawrence ERMATINGER, died 1822. xiii Anna Maria ERMATINGER, born 1818, died 1890. xiv Margaret ERMATINGER, born 7 Mar 1826, baptized 5 Nov 1826 in St. Anne's, Detroit (exterior mission). Fourth Generation 6. Catherine Jemima ERMATINGER, born c. 1826 in MI. She married (1) William BELL, 17 Jun 1828 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI. Children: i Flora Harriett BELL, born May 1837. She married (2) Amos STILES, 7 Nov 1840 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, born c. 1815 in VT, (son of Olivier Octavis STYLES and Rhonda Joan BARROW) died 6 Mar 1897, occupation Cpt. Children: 15. ii Rhoda Jane b. c. 1842. iii Ann STILES, born c. 1844. 16. iv Ursula/Sally b. c. 1846. v Josephine STILES, born c. 1848 in MI. 7. Thomas McKee ERMATINGER, born 1800/6, died c. 1850 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI. He married Genevieve"Jane" SPENARD, Also known as SPENON/SPENCER, 11 Jan 1826 in Mackinac Co., MI,[2] born c. 1805 in MI, (daughter of Charles SPINARD and Genevieve DuFAUT/LaFANT). Children: i Genevieve ERMATINGER, born 18 Oct 1826, baptized 14 Nov 1826 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI. ii Catherine ERMATINGER, born c. 1826. iii George ERMATINGER, born c. 1829 in MI. 17. iv Thomas b. 19 Jan 1831. 18. v Charles b. Mar 1833. vi Alexander ERMATINGER, born c. 1837 in MI. 19. vii John Leon b. c. 1839/40/2. viii Jane C. ERMATINGER, born c. 1842 in MI. ix James Rough ERMATINGER, born c. 1846 in MI. 20. x Isabella b. c. 1848. 8. James Rough ERMATINGER, born 3 Oct 1808 in Michillimackinac, Mackinac Co., MI, died 2 Sept 1866 in Jim Falls, Chippewa Co., WI, occupation fur trader. He married Charlotte CADOTTE, 1 Aug 1829 in Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI, born 15 Sept 1805, (daughter of Michel-Nicolas CADOTTE Sr. and Marie-Madeleine/Equawasay WAUBUJEJACK) died 22 Mar 1887 in Eagleton, WI. Children: i Jehudah ERMATINGER, born c. 1830. ii Thomas Alexander ERMATINGER, born 12 Jul 1831. iii Elijah/Elias ERMATINGER, born 17 Oct 1832, baptized 23 Aug 1835 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI. iv Elizabeth ERMATINGER, born 17 Oct 1832 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI. v Charles Oakes ERMATINGER. vi Isaac ERMATINGER, born 5 Jun 1835 in Lac du Flambeau, WI, baptized 23 Aug 1835 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI. vii Alicia Olivia ERMATINGER, born 5 Jun 1837, baptized 15 Oct 1837 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI, died in Jim Falls, WI. viii Annie ERMATINGER. ix Elias-Frederick ERMATINGER, born 28 Jul 1840 in WI, baptized 16 Aug 1840 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI, died in WI. He married Marie E. CORBINE, Jul 1867 in Chippewa Falls, WI, born 13 Oct 1848 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI, (daughter of Louis CORBINE and Catherine ROY) baptized 15 Oct 1848 in Lapointe/Bayfield, WI. x William ERMATINGER. 21. xi Frederick William b. 1 Jan 1847. 9. Edward ERMATINGER, born 1797, died 1876. He married Achsah/Axie BURNHAM. Children: i Lawrence Edward ERMATINGER. ii Frances Elizabeth ERMATINGER. iii Maria ERMATINGER. iv Annie Jemima ERMATINGER. v Frederick William ERMATINGER. vi Francis Edward ERMATINGER. vii Charles Oakes ERMATINGER. 10. Francis ERMATINGER, born 1798 in Lisbon, Portugal, died 12 Aug 1858 in St. Thomas, Ont., CAN. He married (1) unknown. Children: i _____ ERMATINGER, born bef. 1825. She married David BIRD, Mar 1841. He married (2) Cleopatra"Cleo" _____. Children: ii Lawrence ERMATINGER, born 23 Aug 1828 in Ft. Kamloops. He married (3) Mary THREE-DRESSES, 1835, born in western MT, (daughter of Che-Les-Qua THREE-HATS and Matilda Madeleine _____). Children: iii Mary"Sa-mae-me" ERMATINGER, born Apr 1838 in western MT. She married Perrish ASHLEY/ASSELIN, c. 1865, born c. 1843/5, (son of William ASLIN/ASHLEY and Margaret FINLEY). He married (4) Catherine SINCLAIR, c. 1841,[3] born c. 1824, (daughter of William SINCLAIR and Marie Wadin McKAY). Children: iv Frances Marie ERMATINGER, born 1843 in Ft. Vancouver.[4] 11. Frances ERMATINGER, born 1804, died 1884. She married (1) Francis PERRY. Children: i Frances Ann PERRY, born 1831, died 1831. ii Jemima PERRY, born 1832. 22. iii Charles Ermatinger b. 1834. She married (2) J.H. McVEY. Children: iv James William Frederick McVEY, born 1846, died 1875. 12. Jemima ERMATINGER, born 1808, died 1838. She married Thomas Cochrane CAMERON. Children: i Frederick William Ermatinger CAMERON. 13. Madeleine ERMATINGER, born c. 1795/1808, baptized 13 Sept 1835 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI. She married William Alexander AITKIN/AITKEN, 28 Jul 1829 in Mackinac Co., MI, born c. 1785 in SCOT, died 1851, buried in Aitkinville, Swan River, MN. Children: 23. i John b. 9 Apr 1818. 24. ii Nancy/Anna b. c. 1819. iii Alfred AITKIN, died in Sandy Lake, MN. 25. iv Mathilda b. 13 Sept 1822. 26. v Roger b. c. 1827/9. vi Maxima AITKIN, born c. 1828, baptized 13 Sept 1835 in LaPointe, Madeleine Is., Bayfield Co.,WI. vii Elizabeth AITKIN. 27. viii Anne A. b. c. 1831/2. 14. Frederick William ERMATINGER, born 1811, died 1869. He married Caroline Elisa Juchereau DUCHESNAY. Children: i William Roch Daly ERMATINGER, born 1846, died 1870. ii Charles Henry Catawabiddy ERMATINGER, born 1848, died 1891. iii Edmund Monk Tancrede ERMATINGER, born 1855. iv Wilhemina ERMATINGER, born 1857, died 1905. v Marie Virginia ERMATINGER, died 1905. vi Hildebrand ERMATINGER, born 1858, died 1892. vii Annie ERMATINGER. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1] Sault Channels, v.11 #4 (Fall 1993), pp.3-5. [2] Hamelin, Julien, Moyen-Nord Ontarien (Le Centre de Genealogie S.C., Ottawa, Ont., CAN, 1985), v. 11, p. 54. [3] VanKirk, Sylvia, Many Tender Ties, Women in Fur Trade Society, 1670-1870 (University of Oklahoma Press, Norman, OK, 1980). [4] VanKirk, Sylvia, Many Tender Ties, Women in Fur Trade Society, 1670-1870 (University of Oklahoma Press, Norman, OK, 1980), 167.

Is this William the son of James Rough ERMATINGER & Charlotte CADOTTE? Thanks, Jim. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Michippewa2@aol.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 8:35 PM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Ermatinger=Armatinger > Anita > Here is what I have on the Ermatinger farmily. If you take it back father > it > will take you to Richard Ermatimger who came to the New World as history > protriats it... on the May Flower Ship.. > > William Ermationger-Armatinger Dob Mar 1833 Michigan married Angeline born > Aug 1846 > children are: > 1. Edward born 1862 farmer > 2. Thomas born 1868 > 3. Mary L. born May 1878 > 4, Geo born 1863 died Jan 21 1929 married Mabel Jondrow born 1885 died Jan > 29 > 1924 > Mabel died during child birth at the age of 39 and was known as Aunt Dosie > they had 3 children John,Abner and baby boy who died with Mabel > 5. William born Nov 1872 married Dora Jones > 6. Maria born Mar 1881 married Benjamin Liberty in 1898 > 7. Catherine who married ? Sterling Catherine was born Mar 1863 and died > Feb > 23 192 > 8. Frank Sept 1876 > > Notes for Benjamin Liberty and Maria Ermatinger > Benjamin was born Sept 1868 in Canda Ben and Marie had the following > children > Benjamin Charles > Leuara maybe Laura > Leonard > > William and Dora had the following children > Norman > Irene > Mary > > Mabel Jondreau-Johndrow > dau of Henry and Alice Lacallie-Lacoy > > Vicki Moorhead > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >