Thanks Jim, I'm not to familiar with lineage formats so bear with me, here is what I do know; Amos can be found in the Denver Township school district records from 1894-1906 I believe. He attended with his sister Martha who died in May 1902 of pneumonia. Her parents are listed on the death cert. as Nancy Morry and Mr. Silas. I do know that Amos married as Amos Elk to Mary Ob a wa kum in 1908. His parents are listed as unknown and she lists J. Ob a wa kum as father and mother unknown. (original marriage license) Their children are Thomas, Eliza and Morris (d. in infancy). His son Thomas filled out his death cert. listing John Silas as his father but Amos never gave info as to who his parents were so not sure that is correct. Another strange fact from Nancy's death cert. is that William Wabinaw is the informant and lists her father as Jacob Bro(a)ke(i)ns (it's hard to read) and her mother as Mary last name unknown. What his relation to her is I don't know. But I do know that the Mary that Amos married also used Wabinaw. Nancy died from labored pneumonia due to exposure! to the cold, and is buried in the Indian cem. in Isabella Township. Anything you can find would be helpful. Thanks again and miigwetch, Kimi Jo -------------- Original message -------------- > Here is what I have on the family (not much- additions, correction > appreciated, thanks, Jim. > > 1st Family: > 1. Nancy _____, born c. 1858 in MI. > > > > She married (1) _____ SILAS. > > > > Children: > > 2. i Amos b. c. 1884. > > > > She married (2) James BLACK-ELK Jr., 8 Oct 1898 in Isabella Twp., > Isabella Co., MI, born c. 1836/7 in MI, (son of James/Samuel BLACK-ELK and > Jane/Shawbonce/Shaw-bwance) occupation farmer. > > > > Second Generation > > > > 2. Amos SILAS, born c. 1884. > > > > He married Mary _____, born c. 1884. > > > > Children: > > i Thomas SILAS, born c. 1908. > > ii Eliza SILAS, born c. 1910. > > > > > > 2nd Family (Silas W. line apparently used SILAS as a surname) > > > > 1. Silas WAY-ME-GWANSE, born c. 1790 in MI, died 1863. > > > > He married Aw-Gwe-Daw-Bun. Aw-Gwe-: 1860 census gives name as Lucy, > b. c. 1793 or is this another wife? > > > > Children: > > i Omay-yaw-ge-zhe-go-quay. > > 2. ii Silas b. c. 1835. > > 3. iii William b. c. 1838/42/6. > > iv Jane WEM-E-GONCE, born c. 1839 in MI. > > 4. v Mary b. c. 1843/52/3. > > > > Second Generation > > > > 2. Silas WAY-ME-GWANSE Jr., born c. 1835 in MI. > > > > He married Paw-Be-Waw-Se-No-Quay KAW-GE-GAY-O-SAY, born c. 1846, > (daughter of James KAW-GE-GAY-O-SAY and Oge-she-aw-bun-o-quay). > > > > Children: > > i _____ WAY-ME-GWANSE, born c. 1867, > died c. 1867/8. > > ii Grace SILAS, born c. 1886 in MI, died > 21 Feb 1899 in Nottawa, Isabella Co., MI. Unsure this is the right Silas > WAYMEGWANSE, because of the gap in births of sibs. Perhaps she is from a > second marriage as no mother is listed on DR. > > > > 3. William WAY-ME-GWANSE, born c. 1838/42/6. > > > > He married (1) Jane OKE-CHE-GAW, born c. 1845, (daughter of Thomas > OKE-CHE-GAW and Oge-she-aw-bun). > > > > Children: > > i Ke-che-aw-quay WAY-ME-GWANSE, born c. > 1867. > > > > He married (2) Mary BE-WASE-WOH-NE-QUOH, 11 Dec 1870 in Isabella, > Isabella Co., MI.[1] > > > > 4. Mary WAY-ME-GWANSE, born c. 1843/52/3 in Bay City, Bay Co., MI. > > > > She married David RODD, 5 May 1878 in Isabella Twp., Isabella Co., > MI,[2] born c. 1843/45/51 in Midland Co., MI, (son of Charles H. RODD and > Martha KAU-QUA-QU-ZHICK) occupation farmer. > > > > Children: > > i Betsy RODD, born c. 1871 in MI. Might > be by a different mother. > > ii Daniel WYMAN, born 1873. > > "I'm very happy to find this web-site. > My Grandfather's name is Daniel Wyman who was married to Olive tice in the > Chipewa township in Michigan. His parent's were David Rodd and Mary Way Me > Gaw ance. Mary's(sic - David's [jpl]) parent's are Charles Rodd and wife, > Martha Fisher. Martha's parents are Chief David Fisher, Wabaness (White > Bird) and Mother, O Gaw Bay Aw Ne Zuay (which means married women.) I > believe that my Grandfather's given indian name is Mis-Co-Pe-Nois. Would > love to communicate with someone who may be familar with any of these names. > My Grandfather, Daniel was born in the year of 1873. My mother, his > daughter, is Barbara Jean Wyman Weeks born in Mt. Pleasant, Michigan. Carol > > CABrinson@msn.com > > Bradenton, Fl USA - > > http://www.sootribe.org/oldguestbook.htm". > > > > He married Olive TICE. > > > > iii Willie RODD, born c. 1876 in MI. > > iv David RODD, born c. 1878 in MI. > > v Henry RODD, born c. 1890 in MI, died 20 > Oct 1893 in Isabella Twp., Isabella Co., MI. > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > [1] Isabella Co., Clerk, ISABELLA COUNTY, MI MARRIAGE RECORDS, v.2, p.10. > > [2] Isabella Co., Clerk, ISABELLA COUNTY, MI MARRIAGE RECORDS, v. 2, p.40. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:58 AM > Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Silas > > > >I am having a hard time finding info for Amos Silas, and need some > >assistance. This is not the Amos from Pinconning, Bay County, MI. They were > >both born about the same time but this Amos was in Isabella County. My main > >problem is connecting him to his birth parents. Amos was killed in a hit > >and run accident in 1937, (I have the police report and death cert.). I > >believe his mother was Nancy Elk who died in 1910. She was married to James > >(Black) Elk in 1892 or (8) I don't have the paper work in front of me and > >Amos is listed as his step son on the 1900 census. Any help would be > >appreciated. Miigwetch, Kimi Jo > > > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

In a message dated 3/10/2005 11:02:40 A.M. Central Standard Time, NISHNAWBE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: X-Message: #3 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:32:54 -0500 From: "Kimberly Pennock" <smyrnami@pathwaynet.com> To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Just noticed your last name and wondered if you are related to David Pennock, b/ 1825; Charles b/ 1854; or maybe John b/ 1882? I think they were all b/ Mich. except David, who m/ Julia Southwind? Anything sound familiar? Joyce W

How ironic, it's also a nickname my grandma gave me, I use it to honor her memory. Kimi Jo -------------- Original message -------------- > Hi, > > I'm sorry I don't have any information for you, but I noticed your signature > Kimi Jo.......... > > My nickname is Kimmie Jo too. My grandmother always called me that and I've > been thinking about her allot lately so I was pleasantly shocked to notice your > name. > > Thanks for a nice smile, > Kim > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

I am having a hard time finding info for Amos Silas, and need some assistance. This is not the Amos from Pinconning, Bay County, MI. They were both born about the same time but this Amos was in Isabella County. My main problem is connecting him to his birth parents. Amos was killed in a hit and run accident in 1937, (I have the police report and death cert.). I believe his mother was Nancy Elk who died in 1910. She was married to James (Black) Elk in 1892 or (8) I don't have the paper work in front of me and Amos is listed as his step son on the 1900 census. Any help would be appreciated. Miigwetch, Kimi Jo

Here is what I have on the family (not much- additions, correction appreciated, thanks, Jim. 1st Family: 1. Nancy _____, born c. 1858 in MI. She married (1) _____ SILAS. Children: 2. i Amos b. c. 1884. She married (2) James BLACK-ELK Jr., 8 Oct 1898 in Isabella Twp., Isabella Co., MI, born c. 1836/7 in MI, (son of James/Samuel BLACK-ELK and Jane/Shawbonce/Shaw-bwance) occupation farmer. Second Generation 2. Amos SILAS, born c. 1884. He married Mary _____, born c. 1884. Children: i Thomas SILAS, born c. 1908. ii Eliza SILAS, born c. 1910. 2nd Family (Silas W. line apparently used SILAS as a surname) 1. Silas WAY-ME-GWANSE, born c. 1790 in MI, died 1863. He married Aw-Gwe-Daw-Bun. Aw-Gwe-: 1860 census gives name as Lucy, b. c. 1793 or is this another wife? Children: i Omay-yaw-ge-zhe-go-quay. 2. ii Silas b. c. 1835. 3. iii William b. c. 1838/42/6. iv Jane WEM-E-GONCE, born c. 1839 in MI. 4. v Mary b. c. 1843/52/3. Second Generation 2. Silas WAY-ME-GWANSE Jr., born c. 1835 in MI. He married Paw-Be-Waw-Se-No-Quay KAW-GE-GAY-O-SAY, born c. 1846, (daughter of James KAW-GE-GAY-O-SAY and Oge-she-aw-bun-o-quay). Children: i _____ WAY-ME-GWANSE, born c. 1867, died c. 1867/8. ii Grace SILAS, born c. 1886 in MI, died 21 Feb 1899 in Nottawa, Isabella Co., MI. Unsure this is the right Silas WAYMEGWANSE, because of the gap in births of sibs. Perhaps she is from a second marriage as no mother is listed on DR. 3. William WAY-ME-GWANSE, born c. 1838/42/6. He married (1) Jane OKE-CHE-GAW, born c. 1845, (daughter of Thomas OKE-CHE-GAW and Oge-she-aw-bun). Children: i Ke-che-aw-quay WAY-ME-GWANSE, born c. 1867. He married (2) Mary BE-WASE-WOH-NE-QUOH, 11 Dec 1870 in Isabella, Isabella Co., MI.[1] 4. Mary WAY-ME-GWANSE, born c. 1843/52/3 in Bay City, Bay Co., MI. She married David RODD, 5 May 1878 in Isabella Twp., Isabella Co., MI,[2] born c. 1843/45/51 in Midland Co., MI, (son of Charles H. RODD and Martha KAU-QUA-QU-ZHICK) occupation farmer. Children: i Betsy RODD, born c. 1871 in MI. Might be by a different mother. ii Daniel WYMAN, born 1873. "I'm very happy to find this web-site. My Grandfather's name is Daniel Wyman who was married to Olive tice in the Chipewa township in Michigan. His parent's were David Rodd and Mary Way Me Gaw ance. Mary's(sic - David's [jpl]) parent's are Charles Rodd and wife, Martha Fisher. Martha's parents are Chief David Fisher, Wabaness (White Bird) and Mother, O Gaw Bay Aw Ne Zuay (which means married women.) I believe that my Grandfather's given indian name is Mis-Co-Pe-Nois. Would love to communicate with someone who may be familar with any of these names. My Grandfather, Daniel was born in the year of 1873. My mother, his daughter, is Barbara Jean Wyman Weeks born in Mt. Pleasant, Michigan. Carol CABrinson@msn.com Bradenton, Fl USA - http://www.sootribe.org/oldguestbook.htm". He married Olive TICE. iii Willie RODD, born c. 1876 in MI. iv David RODD, born c. 1878 in MI. v Henry RODD, born c. 1890 in MI, died 20 Oct 1893 in Isabella Twp., Isabella Co., MI. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1] Isabella Co., Clerk, ISABELLA COUNTY, MI MARRIAGE RECORDS, v.2, p.10. [2] Isabella Co., Clerk, ISABELLA COUNTY, MI MARRIAGE RECORDS, v. 2, p.40. ----- Original Message ----- From: <kimijo66@comcast.net> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:58 AM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Silas >I am having a hard time finding info for Amos Silas, and need some >assistance. This is not the Amos from Pinconning, Bay County, MI. They were >both born about the same time but this Amos was in Isabella County. My main >problem is connecting him to his birth parents. Amos was killed in a hit >and run accident in 1937, (I have the police report and death cert.). I >believe his mother was Nancy Elk who died in 1910. She was married to James >(Black) Elk in 1892 or (8) I don't have the paper work in front of me and >Amos is listed as his step son on the 1900 census. Any help would be >appreciated. Miigwetch, Kimi Jo > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hi, I'm sorry I don't have any information for you, but I noticed your signature Kimi Jo.......... My nickname is Kimmie Jo too. My grandmother always called me that and I've been thinking about her allot lately so I was pleasantly shocked to notice your name. Thanks for a nice smile, Kim

Thanks for the additional info. I noted that you have Louis born in Michigan in 1842 I have recorded his baptism in Berthierville, Quebec in 1844. I never saw where Louis used OBESHAW but I have seen his son Alexandre recorded as AUBUCHON but used OBESHAW later in life. Grace Marie LEVEILLE used her middle name Phebee ( FAY-BAY). She was named Grace after her Godmother. Her father Noel was the last generation in his line to use the real family name of FORCAN-FORQUIN (FORQUIN = FOR-KIN rhymes with the "Eh" that Canadians use) Another researcher supplied me with the following Louis Gonzague Joseph AUBUCHON s/o Joseph AUBUCHON-dit-DESALLIERS & Emilie Marie BOUCHER Baptized Jan 27 1844 Berthierville (Haut), Berthier, Quebec m. Apr 21 1862 St-Ignace, Mackinac, Michigan, USA Marie LEDUC Their son... Alexandre Louis Joseph AUBUCHON-OBESHAW Born Mar 28 1868 Michigan Died Oct 20 1934 m. Mar 21 1898 St-Ignace, Mackinac, Michigan, USA Grace Marie "Phebee" LEVEILLE d/o Noel Joseph FORCAN-dit-LEVEILLE and Elisabeth Marie LAUZON-LOZON ----- Original Message ----- From: <Longlakegranny@aol.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 6:12 AM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Descendants of May LaDuke > Descendants of Mary LaDuke > > 1 Mary LaDuke b: 16 Aug 1843 in Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan d: 22 Mar > 1922 in Moran Township, Mackinac County, Michigan > .. +Louis Obeshaw b: 27 Jan 1842 in Michigan d: 27 Nov 1925 in Saint > Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan Father: Joseph Obeshaw Mother: Mary Emilie > 'Amelia' Boucha m: 21 Apr 1862 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan (St. > Ignatius Church) > ......... 2 Mary Obeshaw b: 1864 in Michigan d: Bef. 1964 > ............. +Unknown Smathers b: Abt. 1862 d: Bef. 1962 m: Abt. 1884 > .................... 3 Barney Smathers b: Abt. 1886 d: Bef. 1986 > .................... 3 Cecilia Smathers b: Abt. 1888 d: Bef. 1988 > ......... 2 Adelia Mathilda Obeshaw b: 1866 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac > County, Michigan d: Bef. 1966 > ............. +Walter George 'WG' Wing b: Abt. 1864 d: Bef. 1964 m: Dec > 1887 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan > .................... 3 Walter Wing b: Abt. 1889 d: Bef. 1989 > .................... 3 Ida Mae Wing b: Abt. 1891 d: Bef. 1991 > .................... 3 Chester Burt 'CB' Wing b: Abt. 1893 d: Bef. 1993 > ......... 2 Alexander Louis Obeshaw b: 28 Mar 1868 in Michigan d: 1934 > ............. +Phoebe Grace Leveille b: 25 Jun 1874 in Michigan d: 18 Jul > 1923 Father: Noel Forquin Leveille Mother: Elizabeth Lozon m: Mar 1898 in > Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan > .................... 3 Hilda Ester Obeshaw b: Oct 1898 d: Bef. 1998 > ........................ +Ward Bennet b: Abt. 1896 d: Bef. 1996 m: Sep > 1927 > ............................... 4 Gerald Bennet b: Abt. 1929 > .................... 3 Lewis Clarence Obeshaw b: Jan 1901 in Saint Ignace, > Mackinac County, Michigan d: Mar 1962 in Ohio > ........................ +Freda Rankle b: Abt. 1902 d: Bef. 2002 m: 1927 > ............................... 4 Richard Obeshaw b: 1927 d: Bef. 2005 > .................... 3 Lloyd Noel Obeshaw b: 28 Feb 1903 d: 11 Mar 1975 > ........................ +Rowena A. Thomas b: 14 Mar 1909 in Mackinac > Island, Mackinac County, Michigan d: 11 Mar 1975 Father: Leonard Thomas Mother: > Leafy Lozon m: Aug 1926 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan > ............................... 4 Ionia Cecilia Obeshaw b: 1927 d: Bef. > 2005 > ............................... 4 Lloyd Ward Obeshaw b: Jun 1929 d: Bef. > 2005 > ............................... 4 Ronald F. Obeshaw b: 19 Dec 1931 d: 18 > Jun 1993 > .................... 3 Earle Charles Obeshaw b: Apr 1905 in Saint Ignace, > Mackinac County, Michigan d: 03 Jun 1970 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, > Michigan > ........................ +Leona LaDuke b: Abt. 1907 m: Nov 1941 in Saint > Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan > ......... 2 Edward Obeshaw b: Apr 1870 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, > Michigan d: 1943 > ............. +Ida Lenhart b: 1866 d: Bef. 1966 m: Abt. 1886 > .................... 3 Earl Aubuchon Obeshaw b: Abt. 1888 d: Bef. 1988 > .................... 3 Ruth Aubuchon Obeshaw b: Abt. 1890 d: Bef. 1990 > .................... 3 Ida Aubuchon Obeshaw b: Abt. 1892 d: Bef. 1992 > ......... 2 Joseph Obeshaw b: 22 Apr 1872 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac > County, Michigan d: 02 Sep 1953 > ............. +Jane Bolan b: 15 Mar 1875 d: Jul 1955 Father: John Bolan > Mother: Mary Eleonora Paquin m: Aug 1897 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, > Michigan > .................... 3 Irene Obeshaw b: 1897 in Michigan d: Bef. 1997 > ........................ +Albert Martineau b: 1892 in Michigan d: Bef. 1992 > m: Sep 1915 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan > ............................... 4 Dorothy Martineau b: Abt. 1917 > ............................... 4 John Martineau b: Abt. 1919 > ............................... 4 Burton Joseph 'Sammy' Martineau b: 11 May > 1920 d: 17 Mar 1993 > ............................... 4 Percy Martineau b: Abt. 1921 > ................................... +Doris Paquin b: Dec 1925 d: Dec 1976 > > ............................... 4 Elizabeth Martineau b: Abt. 1923 > ............................... 4 Rita Martineau b: Abt. 1925 > ............................... 4 Wallace Martineau b: 22 Sep 1929 d: 09 > Sep 1951 > .................... 3 Adam Obeshaw b: 1900 d: May 1952 > .................... 3 Joseph Obeshaw b: 1906 d: 1906 > .................... 3 Marie Obeshaw b: 1908 > ......... 2 Effie Obeshaw b: 1876 in Michigan d: Bef. 1976 > ............. +Edward Fenlon b: Abt. 1874 d: Bef. 1974 m: 18 Jul 1896 in > Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan > ......... 2 Oliver Obeshaw b: 25 Apr 1878 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac > County, Michigan d: 04 Sep 1878 in Moran Township, Mackinac County, Michigan > ------- Snipped to save our database --------

Descendants of Mary LaDuke 1 Mary LaDuke b: 16 Aug 1843 in Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan d: 22 Mar 1922 in Moran Township, Mackinac County, Michigan .. +Louis Obeshaw b: 27 Jan 1842 in Michigan d: 27 Nov 1925 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan Father: Joseph Obeshaw Mother: Mary Emilie 'Amelia' Boucha m: 21 Apr 1862 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan (St. Ignatius Church) ......... 2 Mary Obeshaw b: 1864 in Michigan d: Bef. 1964 ............. +Unknown Smathers b: Abt. 1862 d: Bef. 1962 m: Abt. 1884 .................... 3 Barney Smathers b: Abt. 1886 d: Bef. 1986 .................... 3 Cecilia Smathers b: Abt. 1888 d: Bef. 1988 ......... 2 Adelia Mathilda Obeshaw b: 1866 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan d: Bef. 1966 ............. +Walter George 'WG' Wing b: Abt. 1864 d: Bef. 1964 m: Dec 1887 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan .................... 3 Walter Wing b: Abt. 1889 d: Bef. 1989 .................... 3 Ida Mae Wing b: Abt. 1891 d: Bef. 1991 .................... 3 Chester Burt 'CB' Wing b: Abt. 1893 d: Bef. 1993 ......... 2 Alexander Louis Obeshaw b: 28 Mar 1868 in Michigan d: 1934 ............. +Phoebe Grace Leveille b: 25 Jun 1874 in Michigan d: 18 Jul 1923 Father: Noel Forquin Leveille Mother: Elizabeth Lozon m: Mar 1898 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan .................... 3 Hilda Ester Obeshaw b: Oct 1898 d: Bef. 1998 ........................ +Ward Bennet b: Abt. 1896 d: Bef. 1996 m: Sep 1927 ............................... 4 Gerald Bennet b: Abt. 1929 .................... 3 Lewis Clarence Obeshaw b: Jan 1901 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan d: Mar 1962 in Ohio ........................ +Freda Rankle b: Abt. 1902 d: Bef. 2002 m: 1927 ............................... 4 Richard Obeshaw b: 1927 d: Bef. 2005 .................... 3 Lloyd Noel Obeshaw b: 28 Feb 1903 d: 11 Mar 1975 ........................ +Rowena A. Thomas b: 14 Mar 1909 in Mackinac Island, Mackinac County, Michigan d: 11 Mar 1975 Father: Leonard Thomas Mother: Leafy Lozon m: Aug 1926 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan ............................... 4 Ionia Cecilia Obeshaw b: 1927 d: Bef. 2005 ............................... 4 Lloyd Ward Obeshaw b: Jun 1929 d: Bef. 2005 ............................... 4 Ronald F. Obeshaw b: 19 Dec 1931 d: 18 Jun 1993 .................... 3 Earle Charles Obeshaw b: Apr 1905 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan d: 03 Jun 1970 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan ........................ +Leona LaDuke b: Abt. 1907 m: Nov 1941 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan ......... 2 Edward Obeshaw b: Apr 1870 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan d: 1943 ............. +Ida Lenhart b: 1866 d: Bef. 1966 m: Abt. 1886 .................... 3 Earl Aubuchon Obeshaw b: Abt. 1888 d: Bef. 1988 .................... 3 Ruth Aubuchon Obeshaw b: Abt. 1890 d: Bef. 1990 .................... 3 Ida Aubuchon Obeshaw b: Abt. 1892 d: Bef. 1992 ......... 2 Joseph Obeshaw b: 22 Apr 1872 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan d: 02 Sep 1953 ............. +Jane Bolan b: 15 Mar 1875 d: Jul 1955 Father: John Bolan Mother: Mary Eleonora Paquin m: Aug 1897 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan .................... 3 Irene Obeshaw b: 1897 in Michigan d: Bef. 1997 ........................ +Albert Martineau b: 1892 in Michigan d: Bef. 1992 m: Sep 1915 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan ............................... 4 Dorothy Martineau b: Abt. 1917 ............................... 4 John Martineau b: Abt. 1919 ............................... 4 Burton Joseph 'Sammy' Martineau b: 11 May 1920 d: 17 Mar 1993 ............................... 4 Percy Martineau b: Abt. 1921 ................................... +Doris Paquin b: Dec 1925 d: Dec 1976 ............................... 4 Elizabeth Martineau b: Abt. 1923 ............................... 4 Rita Martineau b: Abt. 1925 ............................... 4 Wallace Martineau b: 22 Sep 1929 d: 09 Sep 1951 .................... 3 Adam Obeshaw b: 1900 d: May 1952 .................... 3 Joseph Obeshaw b: 1906 d: 1906 .................... 3 Marie Obeshaw b: 1908 ......... 2 Effie Obeshaw b: 1876 in Michigan d: Bef. 1976 ............. +Edward Fenlon b: Abt. 1874 d: Bef. 1974 m: 18 Jul 1896 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan ......... 2 Oliver Obeshaw b: 25 Apr 1878 in Saint Ignace, Mackinac County, Michigan d: 04 Sep 1878 in Moran Township, Mackinac County, Michigan

A very nice site is: http://www.negenealogy.com/mi/mi_maps/mi_cm.htm you can go down below the map and chosse the year and see the county locations. Going backwards in time you can maybe watch your county of choice disappear. Other states can be viewed as well. I found that page from Bay County Michigan's gen page: http://www.bay-journal.com/bay/1in/webgen.html Larry Friend (Black Buffalo) niidji@mchsi.com -----Original Message----- From: Paul Petosky [mailto:paul_petosky@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 10:00 PM To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] In detail Laduke Jolene: Alger County wasn't established on March 17, 1885, before that it was made up of land originally assigned to Schoolcraft County. That is why you see Munising listed in Schoolcraft County. Hope this helps you out! Paul Petosky Postmarks from the Past http://www.grandmaraismichigan.com/History/postmarks.htm Jolene Killoran <sisgldhr@up.net> wrote: Anita: Thank you for your reply. I found the Duck family in 1880 Census for Munising (but, it was in Schoolcraft County, MI) - I don't know why it wasn't taken in Alger County, MI but, I am guessing that maybe that is just the way it was done in 1880. I truly don't know, the Duck family could just be the Duck family .....I just asked whether anyone might know if they could be Laduc/Laduke whatever spelling because my family hasn't ever seemed to commit to one version or another early on concerning the family name. My Peter Laduc couldn't read or write - which at times brings an interesting combination to how his last name is spelled. So far my family they have been found and used Laduke, Leduke, Laduc, Laduque, Leduc, and Leaduques. I had read sometimes Laduke type names are also spelled Laduck....it is a stretch but, I guess I was kinda hoping Duck wasn't that far off from Laduck either. In any case, maybe the Duck family might be looking for their ancestors and maybe they can find them from my post. 1880 Munising, Schoolcraft County, MI Census Louis Duck age 30 laborer Joseph Duck age 5 Peter Duck age 60 trapper I don't believe that my Peter would have been in Munising, MI in 1880 just yet....I believe part of his family was living there at that time. As far as I know by my family lore, Peter had family in Munising. He was part native american, from where or what side I truly don't know......so I could be looking for a maternal named family from Munising for him at that time- only I don't know his mother's name at all. I was told he joined some of his family in Munising between 1890 and 1900. In 1900 he lived in Ontonagon, MI, well at least that was the main location - he still traveled around. If I could locate his birth or death record for sure - I would be very happy. My family has tried before, looking for him in records in Detroit, MI. He could have been born anywhere really.......and he died at a hospital in Michigan between 1930-1940. It is just so difficult because he moved about so much. I can do some looking around in Cheboygan, MI and also keep my eyes peeled also. Thank you, again. Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anita Nelson" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] In detail Laduke > Jolene: I had some old 1850/1860 census information copied from an old > microfilm from many years ago. I did not see the name Duck on it nor > Leduc. However, I have researched families in the Alger Co. Michigan area > that had the name Laduc in their lineage. My husband had an Elizabeth > Leduc, a Mrs. Lamouria, and a possibly cousin had an Emma Leduc. A > Mrs. Atherton, who recently passed, had a grandmother Leduc. These > Leducs migrated here from Cheboygan, Michigan and before that, Russell > Co. Clarence > Creek, Ontario. Another Rosie Laduke, maiden name Carrow, from > Cheboygan who had children Dorris, Rena, Elmer, and Clyde. I will keep > my eye out for > Duck while searching records. > > This probably don't help much but wanted to let you know I looked. The 1870 > Michigan Census is free on line. Give it a try > http://envoy.libomich.lib.mi.us/1870 and the Cheboygan Genealogical > Society is on line. > > Happy Hunting, Anita > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jolene Killoran" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:46 PM > Subject: [NISHNAWBE] In detail Laduke > > > > Hello, > > > > I gather from not getting a responce my Duck family question -it was > > a > stupid one. Sorry, just gets frustrating sometimes looking. Just > hoping someone might know of my family. Thought I give some more > details. > > > > "Joseph" Peter LeDuke born abt. 1849 Detroit, Michigan. Assuming his > parents died young.... > > Peter had sisters by the name of Rose, Alice, and Kitty. Might be > > more > siblings??? > > > > I was thinking that Rose Laduke age 14 was placed with Antoine > > Morafa > family 1870 Census Detroit, MI. Alice Laduke 1870 Census age 11 St. > Vincent's Orphans Detroit, MI. Kitty was said to be married to a Voss > - Peter lived with her and ran away at about 12 years old. > > > > Peter Laduke married 1. unknown (could be Rose?) unsure > > > > Child: Nettie - nickname (could be Edna?) unsure * found Nettie > > Laduke > 1900 Detroit Michigan Census at Mother Mary of Saint Scholastica House > of Good Sheperd working in laundry. > > > > 2. Selena Sheff (her second marriage also) First marriage said to be > Anthony Charboneau. > > > > *birth record Mary Adelaide Charboneau birth May 14, 1886 Detroit, > > Wayne > County, Michigan. Name of Father: Anthony Charboneau Name of Mother: Selena > Sheff. 2nd Marriage Record of Mary Charboneau stated Father's name as: > Arthur Charbeneau. > > > > Children from Peter and who they married > > > > 1. Joseph Laduke born 1887 Saginaw, MI died 1954 - Mae Dougherty 2. > > Joseph Leduke born 1895 Whitefish Pointe, MI - Evelyn? 3. Theodore > > Laduke born 1892 Manistique, MI 4. Geneveive Germaine Laduke born > > 1894 died 1957 - LaFernier / Edward > Listermen > > 5. Priscilla Laduke born 1898 - L.J. Berger > > 6. Madelin Rose Laduke born 1899 - George LaTondress > > 7. Agnes Pearl Laduke born 1901- Raleigh Daugherty/Dougherty 8. > > Aloysius John LaDuke born 1903 - Elizabeth Fredrickson 9. Lewis > > Laduke- born and died 1904 10. Francis Hubert Laduke - born 1909 > > died 1915 drowned > > > > *funeral card Selina LaDuke born August 11, 1862 died November 13, > > 1948 > buried Mt. Olivet Cemetery Detroit, MI. Her sister was Adelaide Sheff > married to Francis Goudreau. Selena came from Kent, Ontario Canada > related to Thibodeau's also. > > > > *Peter worked for the Diamond Match Co. in Ontonagon, MI and fished. > > For > his first paycheck he bought a gun to hunt to feed his family and a > newspaper subscription although he couldn't read. Short bio by Alma Swinton. > Mrs. Swinton was a doctor's wife and often accompanied Madelin Laduke > to her > appts. She was sight and hearing impaired and had learned Braile. > > > > In 1920 Joseph Laduke and Mae nee Dougherty are living next to an > > Odelia > and Priscilla Leduke. > > In 1920 George Latondress and Madge are living next to a Claud and > > Agnes > Laduke. > > > > I don't have much more just tidbits here and there. I had ordered a death > record for Peter Laduke but, I am not sure if I have the right one. > > That is where the Austin Laduke and Catherine Pelka came in from the last > email. Please let me know if anything sounds familiar or if it can be > corrected. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Jo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in > > the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn > > more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. 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Schoolcraft was the county for Munsing until a certain time period, then it became Alger later. Glad you found them. Anita ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jolene Killoran" <sisgldhr@up.net> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] In detail Laduke > Anita: Thank you for your reply. > I found the Duck family in 1880 Census for Munising (but, it was in > Schoolcraft County, MI) - I don't know why it wasn't taken in Alger County, > MI but, I am guessing that maybe that is just the way it was done in 1880. I > truly don't know, the Duck family could just be the Duck family .....I just > asked whether anyone might know if they could be Laduc/Laduke whatever > spelling because my family hasn't ever seemed to commit to one version or > another early on concerning the family name. My Peter Laduc couldn't read or > write - which at times brings an interesting combination to how his last > name is spelled. So far my family they have been found and used Laduke, > Leduke, Laduc, Laduque, Leduc, and Leaduques. I had read sometimes Laduke > type names are also spelled Laduck....it is a stretch but, I guess I was > kinda hoping Duck wasn't that far off from Laduck either. In any case, > maybe the Duck family might be looking for their ancestors and maybe they > can find them from my post. > > 1880 Munising, Schoolcraft County, MI Census > Louis Duck age 30 laborer > Joseph Duck age 5 > Peter Duck age 60 trapper > > > I don't believe that my Peter would have been in Munising, MI in 1880 just > yet....I believe part of his family was living there at that time. > > As far as I know by my family lore, Peter had family in Munising. He was > part native american, from where or what side I truly don't know......so I > could be looking for a maternal named family from Munising for him at that > time- only I don't know his mother's name at all. I was told he joined some > of his family in Munising between 1890 and 1900. In 1900 he lived in > Ontonagon, MI, well at least that was the main location - he still traveled > around. If I could locate his birth or death record for sure - I would be > very happy. My family has tried before, looking for him in records in > Detroit, MI. He could have been born anywhere really.......and he died at a > hospital in Michigan between 1930-1940. It is just so difficult because he > moved about so much. I can do some looking around in Cheboygan, MI and also > keep my eyes peeled also. Thank you, again. > > Jo > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anita Nelson" <anelson1@jamadots.com> > To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 6:02 PM > Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] In detail Laduke > > > > Jolene: I had some old 1850/1860 census information copied from an old > > microfilm from many years ago. I did not see the name Duck on it nor > > Leduc. However, I have researched families in the Alger Co. Michigan > area > > that had the name Laduc in their lineage. My husband had an Elizabeth > > Leduc, a Mrs. Lamouria, and a possibly cousin had an Emma Leduc. A Mrs. > > Atherton, who recently passed, had a grandmother Leduc. These Leducs > > migrated here from Cheboygan, Michigan and before that, Russell Co. > Clarence > > Creek, Ontario. Another Rosie Laduke, maiden name Carrow, from Cheboygan > > who had children Dorris, Rena, Elmer, and Clyde. I will keep my eye out > for > > Duck while searching records. > > > > This probably don't help much but wanted to let you know I looked. The > 1870 > > Michigan Census is free on line. Give it a try > > http://envoy.libomich.lib.mi.us/1870 and the Cheboygan Genealogical > > Society is on line. > > > > Happy Hunting, Anita > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jolene Killoran" <sisgldhr@up.net> > > To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:46 PM > > Subject: [NISHNAWBE] In detail Laduke > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I gather from not getting a responce my Duck family question -it was a > > stupid one. Sorry, just gets frustrating sometimes looking. Just hoping > > someone might know of my family. Thought I give some more details. > > > > > > "Joseph" Peter LeDuke born abt. 1849 Detroit, Michigan. Assuming his > > parents died young.... > > > Peter had sisters by the name of Rose, Alice, and Kitty. Might be more > > siblings??? > > > > > > I was thinking that Rose Laduke age 14 was placed with Antoine Morafa > > family 1870 Census Detroit, MI. Alice Laduke 1870 Census age 11 St. > > Vincent's Orphans Detroit, MI. Kitty was said to be married to a Voss - > > Peter lived with her and ran away at about 12 years old. > > > > > > Peter Laduke married 1. unknown (could be Rose?) unsure > > > > > > Child: Nettie - nickname (could be Edna?) unsure * found Nettie Laduke > > 1900 Detroit Michigan Census at Mother Mary of Saint Scholastica House of > > Good Sheperd working in laundry. > > > > > > 2. Selena Sheff (her second marriage also) First marriage said to be > > Anthony Charboneau. > > > > > > *birth record Mary Adelaide Charboneau birth May 14, 1886 Detroit, Wayne > > County, Michigan. Name of Father: Anthony Charboneau Name of Mother: > Selena > > Sheff. 2nd Marriage Record of Mary Charboneau stated Father's name as: > > Arthur Charbeneau. > > > > > > Children from Peter and who they married > > > > > > 1. Joseph Laduke born 1887 Saginaw, MI died 1954 - Mae Dougherty > > > 2. Joseph Leduke born 1895 Whitefish Pointe, MI - Evelyn? > > > 3. Theodore Laduke born 1892 Manistique, MI > > > 4. Geneveive Germaine Laduke born 1894 died 1957 - LaFernier / Edward > > Listermen > > > 5. Priscilla Laduke born 1898 - L.J. Berger > > > 6. Madelin Rose Laduke born 1899 - George LaTondress > > > 7. Agnes Pearl Laduke born 1901- Raleigh Daugherty/Dougherty > > > 8. Aloysius John LaDuke born 1903 - Elizabeth Fredrickson > > > 9. Lewis Laduke- born and died 1904 > > > 10. Francis Hubert Laduke - born 1909 died 1915 drowned > > > > > > *funeral card Selina LaDuke born August 11, 1862 died November 13, 1948 > > buried Mt. Olivet Cemetery Detroit, MI. Her sister was Adelaide Sheff > > married to Francis Goudreau. Selena came from Kent, Ontario Canada related > > to Thibodeau's also. > > > > > > *Peter worked for the Diamond Match Co. in Ontonagon, MI and fished. For > > his first paycheck he bought a gun to hunt to feed his family and a > > newspaper subscription although he couldn't read. Short bio by Alma > Swinton. > > Mrs. Swinton was a doctor's wife and often accompanied Madelin Laduke to > her > > appts. She was sight and hearing impaired and had learned Braile. > > > > > > In 1920 Joseph Laduke and Mae nee Dougherty are living next to an Odelia > > and Priscilla Leduke. > > > In 1920 George Latondress and Madge are living next to a Claud and Agnes > > Laduke. > > > > > > I don't have much more just tidbits here and there. I had ordered a > death > > record for Peter Laduke but, I am not sure if I have the right one. > > > That is where the Austin Laduke and Catherine Pelka came in from the > last > > email. Please let me know if anything sounds familiar or if it can be > > corrected. > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > Jo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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Anita: Thank you for your reply. I found the Duck family in 1880 Census for Munising (but, it was in Schoolcraft County, MI) - I don't know why it wasn't taken in Alger County, MI but, I am guessing that maybe that is just the way it was done in 1880. I truly don't know, the Duck family could just be the Duck family .....I just asked whether anyone might know if they could be Laduc/Laduke whatever spelling because my family hasn't ever seemed to commit to one version or another early on concerning the family name. My Peter Laduc couldn't read or write - which at times brings an interesting combination to how his last name is spelled. So far my family they have been found and used Laduke, Leduke, Laduc, Laduque, Leduc, and Leaduques. I had read sometimes Laduke type names are also spelled Laduck....it is a stretch but, I guess I was kinda hoping Duck wasn't that far off from Laduck either. In any case, maybe the Duck family might be looking for their ancestors and maybe they can find them from my post. 1880 Munising, Schoolcraft County, MI Census Louis Duck age 30 laborer Joseph Duck age 5 Peter Duck age 60 trapper I don't believe that my Peter would have been in Munising, MI in 1880 just yet....I believe part of his family was living there at that time. As far as I know by my family lore, Peter had family in Munising. He was part native american, from where or what side I truly don't know......so I could be looking for a maternal named family from Munising for him at that time- only I don't know his mother's name at all. I was told he joined some of his family in Munising between 1890 and 1900. In 1900 he lived in Ontonagon, MI, well at least that was the main location - he still traveled around. If I could locate his birth or death record for sure - I would be very happy. My family has tried before, looking for him in records in Detroit, MI. He could have been born anywhere really.......and he died at a hospital in Michigan between 1930-1940. It is just so difficult because he moved about so much. I can do some looking around in Cheboygan, MI and also keep my eyes peeled also. Thank you, again. Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anita Nelson" <anelson1@jamadots.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] In detail Laduke > Jolene: I had some old 1850/1860 census information copied from an old > microfilm from many years ago. I did not see the name Duck on it nor > Leduc. However, I have researched families in the Alger Co. Michigan area > that had the name Laduc in their lineage. My husband had an Elizabeth > Leduc, a Mrs. Lamouria, and a possibly cousin had an Emma Leduc. A Mrs. > Atherton, who recently passed, had a grandmother Leduc. These Leducs > migrated here from Cheboygan, Michigan and before that, Russell Co. Clarence > Creek, Ontario. Another Rosie Laduke, maiden name Carrow, from Cheboygan > who had children Dorris, Rena, Elmer, and Clyde. I will keep my eye out for > Duck while searching records. > > This probably don't help much but wanted to let you know I looked. The 1870 > Michigan Census is free on line. Give it a try > http://envoy.libomich.lib.mi.us/1870 and the Cheboygan Genealogical > Society is on line. > > Happy Hunting, Anita > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jolene Killoran" <sisgldhr@up.net> > To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:46 PM > Subject: [NISHNAWBE] In detail Laduke > > > > Hello, > > > > I gather from not getting a responce my Duck family question -it was a > stupid one. Sorry, just gets frustrating sometimes looking. Just hoping > someone might know of my family. Thought I give some more details. > > > > "Joseph" Peter LeDuke born abt. 1849 Detroit, Michigan. Assuming his > parents died young.... > > Peter had sisters by the name of Rose, Alice, and Kitty. Might be more > siblings??? > > > > I was thinking that Rose Laduke age 14 was placed with Antoine Morafa > family 1870 Census Detroit, MI. Alice Laduke 1870 Census age 11 St. > Vincent's Orphans Detroit, MI. Kitty was said to be married to a Voss - > Peter lived with her and ran away at about 12 years old. > > > > Peter Laduke married 1. unknown (could be Rose?) unsure > > > > Child: Nettie - nickname (could be Edna?) unsure * found Nettie Laduke > 1900 Detroit Michigan Census at Mother Mary of Saint Scholastica House of > Good Sheperd working in laundry. > > > > 2. Selena Sheff (her second marriage also) First marriage said to be > Anthony Charboneau. > > > > *birth record Mary Adelaide Charboneau birth May 14, 1886 Detroit, Wayne > County, Michigan. Name of Father: Anthony Charboneau Name of Mother: Selena > Sheff. 2nd Marriage Record of Mary Charboneau stated Father's name as: > Arthur Charbeneau. > > > > Children from Peter and who they married > > > > 1. Joseph Laduke born 1887 Saginaw, MI died 1954 - Mae Dougherty > > 2. Joseph Leduke born 1895 Whitefish Pointe, MI - Evelyn? > > 3. Theodore Laduke born 1892 Manistique, MI > > 4. Geneveive Germaine Laduke born 1894 died 1957 - LaFernier / Edward > Listermen > > 5. Priscilla Laduke born 1898 - L.J. Berger > > 6. Madelin Rose Laduke born 1899 - George LaTondress > > 7. Agnes Pearl Laduke born 1901- Raleigh Daugherty/Dougherty > > 8. Aloysius John LaDuke born 1903 - Elizabeth Fredrickson > > 9. Lewis Laduke- born and died 1904 > > 10. Francis Hubert Laduke - born 1909 died 1915 drowned > > > > *funeral card Selina LaDuke born August 11, 1862 died November 13, 1948 > buried Mt. Olivet Cemetery Detroit, MI. Her sister was Adelaide Sheff > married to Francis Goudreau. Selena came from Kent, Ontario Canada related > to Thibodeau's also. > > > > *Peter worked for the Diamond Match Co. in Ontonagon, MI and fished. For > his first paycheck he bought a gun to hunt to feed his family and a > newspaper subscription although he couldn't read. Short bio by Alma Swinton. > Mrs. Swinton was a doctor's wife and often accompanied Madelin Laduke to her > appts. She was sight and hearing impaired and had learned Braile. > > > > In 1920 Joseph Laduke and Mae nee Dougherty are living next to an Odelia > and Priscilla Leduke. > > In 1920 George Latondress and Madge are living next to a Claud and Agnes > Laduke. > > > > I don't have much more just tidbits here and there. I had ordered a death > record for Peter Laduke but, I am not sure if I have the right one. > > That is where the Austin Laduke and Catherine Pelka came in from the last > email. Please let me know if anything sounds familiar or if it can be > corrected. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Jo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

SORRY ABOUT THAT...IT SHOULD HAVE READ.... "ALGER COUNTY WAS ESTABLISHED ON MARCH 17, 1885"........... PAUL Paul Petosky <paul_petosky@yahoo.com> wrote: Jolene: Alger County wasn't established on March 17, 1885, before that it was made up of land originally assigned to Schoolcraft County. That is why you see Munising listed in Schoolcraft County. Hope this helps you out! Paul Petosky Postmarks from the Past http://www.grandmaraismichigan.com/History/postmarks.htm Jolene Killoran wrote: Anita: Thank you for your reply. I found the Duck family in 1880 Census for Munising (but, it was in Schoolcraft County, MI) - I don't know why it wasn't taken in Alger County, MI but, I am guessing that maybe that is just the way it was done in 1880. I truly don't know, the Duck family could just be the Duck family .....I just asked whether anyone might know if they could be Laduc/Laduke whatever spelling because my family hasn't ever seemed to commit to one version or another early on concerning the family name. My Peter Laduc couldn't read or write - which at times brings an interesting combination to how his last name is spelled. So far my family they have been found and used Laduke, Leduke, Laduc, Laduque, Leduc, and Leaduques. I had read sometimes Laduke type names are also spelled Laduck....it is a stretch but, I guess I was kinda hoping Duck wasn't that far off from Laduck either. In any case, maybe the Duck family might be looking for their ancestors and maybe they can find them from my post. 1880 Munising, Schoolcraft County, MI Census Louis Duck age 30 laborer Joseph Duck age 5 Peter Duck age 60 trapper I don't believe that my Peter would have been in Munising, MI in 1880 just yet....I believe part of his family was living there at that time. As far as I know by my family lore, Peter had family in Munising. He was part native american, from where or what side I truly don't know......so I could be looking for a maternal named family from Munising for him at that time- only I don't know his mother's name at all. I was told he joined some of his family in Munising between 1890 and 1900. In 1900 he lived in Ontonagon, MI, well at least that was the main location - he still traveled around. If I could locate his birth or death record for sure - I would be very happy. My family has tried before, looking for him in records in Detroit, MI. He could have been born anywhere really.......and he died at a hospital in Michigan between 1930-1940. It is just so difficult because he moved about so much. I can do some looking around in Cheboygan, MI and also keep my eyes peeled also. Thank you, again. Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anita Nelson" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] In detail Laduke > Jolene: I had some old 1850/1860 census information copied from an old > microfilm from many years ago. I did not see the name Duck on it nor > Leduc. However, I have researched families in the Alger Co. Michigan area > that had the name Laduc in their lineage. My husband had an Elizabeth > Leduc, a Mrs. Lamouria, and a possibly cousin had an Emma Leduc. A Mrs. > Atherton, who recently passed, had a grandmother Leduc. These Leducs > migrated here from Cheboygan, Michigan and before that, Russell Co. Clarence > Creek, Ontario. Another Rosie Laduke, maiden name Carrow, from Cheboygan > who had children Dorris, Rena, Elmer, and Clyde. I will keep my eye out for > Duck while searching records. > > This probably don't help much but wanted to let you know I looked. The 1870 > Michigan Census is free on line. Give it a try > http://envoy.libomich.lib.mi.us/1870 and the Cheboygan Genealogical > Society is on line. > > Happy Hunting, Anita > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jolene Killoran" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:46 PM > Subject: [NISHNAWBE] In detail Laduke > > > > Hello, > > > > I gather from not getting a responce my Duck family question -it was a > stupid one. Sorry, just gets frustrating sometimes looking. Just hoping > someone might know of my family. Thought I give some more details. > > > > "Joseph" Peter LeDuke born abt. 1849 Detroit, Michigan. Assuming his > parents died young.... > > Peter had sisters by the name of Rose, Alice, and Kitty. Might be more > siblings??? > > > > I was thinking that Rose Laduke age 14 was placed with Antoine Morafa > family 1870 Census Detroit, MI. Alice Laduke 1870 Census age 11 St. > Vincent's Orphans Detroit, MI. Kitty was said to be married to a Voss - > Peter lived with her and ran away at about 12 years old. > > > > Peter Laduke married 1. unknown (could be Rose?) unsure > > > > Child: Nettie - nickname (could be Edna?) unsure * found Nettie Laduke > 1900 Detroit Michigan Census at Mother Mary of Saint Scholastica House of > Good Sheperd working in laundry. > > > > 2. Selena Sheff (her second marriage also) First marriage said to be > Anthony Charboneau. > > > > *birth record Mary Adelaide Charboneau birth May 14, 1886 Detroit, Wayne > County, Michigan. Name of Father: Anthony Charboneau Name of Mother: Selena > Sheff. 2nd Marriage Record of Mary Charboneau stated Father's name as: > Arthur Charbeneau. > > > > Children from Peter and who they married > > > > 1. Joseph Laduke born 1887 Saginaw, MI died 1954 - Mae Dougherty > > 2. Joseph Leduke born 1895 Whitefish Pointe, MI - Evelyn? > > 3. Theodore Laduke born 1892 Manistique, MI > > 4. Geneveive Germaine Laduke born 1894 died 1957 - LaFernier / Edward > Listermen > > 5. Priscilla Laduke born 1898 - L.J. Berger > > 6. Madelin Rose Laduke born 1899 - George LaTondress > > 7. Agnes Pearl Laduke born 1901- Raleigh Daugherty/Dougherty > > 8. Aloysius John LaDuke born 1903 - Elizabeth Fredrickson > > 9. Lewis Laduke- born and died 1904 > > 10. Francis Hubert Laduke - born 1909 died 1915 drowned > > > > *funeral card Selina LaDuke born August 11, 1862 died November 13, 1948 > buried Mt. Olivet Cemetery Detroit, MI. Her sister was Adelaide Sheff > married to Francis Goudreau. Selena came from Kent, Ontario Canada related > to Thibodeau's also. > > > > *Peter worked for the Diamond Match Co. in Ontonagon, MI and fished. For > his first paycheck he bought a gun to hunt to feed his family and a > newspaper subscription although he couldn't read. Short bio by Alma Swinton. > Mrs. Swinton was a doctor's wife and often accompanied Madelin Laduke to her > appts. She was sight and hearing impaired and had learned Braile. > > > > In 1920 Joseph Laduke and Mae nee Dougherty are living next to an Odelia > and Priscilla Leduke. > > In 1920 George Latondress and Madge are living next to a Claud and Agnes > Laduke. > > > > I don't have much more just tidbits here and there. I had ordered a death > record for Peter Laduke but, I am not sure if I have the right one. > > That is where the Austin Laduke and Catherine Pelka came in from the last > email. Please let me know if anything sounds familiar or if it can be > corrected. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Jo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. 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Jolene: Alger County wasn't established on March 17, 1885, before that it was made up of land originally assigned to Schoolcraft County. That is why you see Munising listed in Schoolcraft County. Hope this helps you out! Paul Petosky Postmarks from the Past http://www.grandmaraismichigan.com/History/postmarks.htm Jolene Killoran <sisgldhr@up.net> wrote: Anita: Thank you for your reply. I found the Duck family in 1880 Census for Munising (but, it was in Schoolcraft County, MI) - I don't know why it wasn't taken in Alger County, MI but, I am guessing that maybe that is just the way it was done in 1880. I truly don't know, the Duck family could just be the Duck family .....I just asked whether anyone might know if they could be Laduc/Laduke whatever spelling because my family hasn't ever seemed to commit to one version or another early on concerning the family name. My Peter Laduc couldn't read or write - which at times brings an interesting combination to how his last name is spelled. So far my family they have been found and used Laduke, Leduke, Laduc, Laduque, Leduc, and Leaduques. I had read sometimes Laduke type names are also spelled Laduck....it is a stretch but, I guess I was kinda hoping Duck wasn't that far off from Laduck either. In any case, maybe the Duck family might be looking for their ancestors and maybe they can find them from my post. 1880 Munising, Schoolcraft County, MI Census Louis Duck age 30 laborer Joseph Duck age 5 Peter Duck age 60 trapper I don't believe that my Peter would have been in Munising, MI in 1880 just yet....I believe part of his family was living there at that time. As far as I know by my family lore, Peter had family in Munising. He was part native american, from where or what side I truly don't know......so I could be looking for a maternal named family from Munising for him at that time- only I don't know his mother's name at all. I was told he joined some of his family in Munising between 1890 and 1900. In 1900 he lived in Ontonagon, MI, well at least that was the main location - he still traveled around. If I could locate his birth or death record for sure - I would be very happy. My family has tried before, looking for him in records in Detroit, MI. He could have been born anywhere really.......and he died at a hospital in Michigan between 1930-1940. It is just so difficult because he moved about so much. I can do some looking around in Cheboygan, MI and also keep my eyes peeled also. Thank you, again. Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anita Nelson" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] In detail Laduke > Jolene: I had some old 1850/1860 census information copied from an old > microfilm from many years ago. I did not see the name Duck on it nor > Leduc. However, I have researched families in the Alger Co. Michigan area > that had the name Laduc in their lineage. My husband had an Elizabeth > Leduc, a Mrs. Lamouria, and a possibly cousin had an Emma Leduc. A Mrs. > Atherton, who recently passed, had a grandmother Leduc. These Leducs > migrated here from Cheboygan, Michigan and before that, Russell Co. Clarence > Creek, Ontario. Another Rosie Laduke, maiden name Carrow, from Cheboygan > who had children Dorris, Rena, Elmer, and Clyde. I will keep my eye out for > Duck while searching records. > > This probably don't help much but wanted to let you know I looked. The 1870 > Michigan Census is free on line. Give it a try > http://envoy.libomich.lib.mi.us/1870 and the Cheboygan Genealogical > Society is on line. > > Happy Hunting, Anita > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jolene Killoran" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:46 PM > Subject: [NISHNAWBE] In detail Laduke > > > > Hello, > > > > I gather from not getting a responce my Duck family question -it was a > stupid one. Sorry, just gets frustrating sometimes looking. Just hoping > someone might know of my family. Thought I give some more details. > > > > "Joseph" Peter LeDuke born abt. 1849 Detroit, Michigan. Assuming his > parents died young.... > > Peter had sisters by the name of Rose, Alice, and Kitty. Might be more > siblings??? > > > > I was thinking that Rose Laduke age 14 was placed with Antoine Morafa > family 1870 Census Detroit, MI. Alice Laduke 1870 Census age 11 St. > Vincent's Orphans Detroit, MI. Kitty was said to be married to a Voss - > Peter lived with her and ran away at about 12 years old. > > > > Peter Laduke married 1. unknown (could be Rose?) unsure > > > > Child: Nettie - nickname (could be Edna?) unsure * found Nettie Laduke > 1900 Detroit Michigan Census at Mother Mary of Saint Scholastica House of > Good Sheperd working in laundry. > > > > 2. Selena Sheff (her second marriage also) First marriage said to be > Anthony Charboneau. > > > > *birth record Mary Adelaide Charboneau birth May 14, 1886 Detroit, Wayne > County, Michigan. Name of Father: Anthony Charboneau Name of Mother: Selena > Sheff. 2nd Marriage Record of Mary Charboneau stated Father's name as: > Arthur Charbeneau. > > > > Children from Peter and who they married > > > > 1. Joseph Laduke born 1887 Saginaw, MI died 1954 - Mae Dougherty > > 2. Joseph Leduke born 1895 Whitefish Pointe, MI - Evelyn? > > 3. Theodore Laduke born 1892 Manistique, MI > > 4. Geneveive Germaine Laduke born 1894 died 1957 - LaFernier / Edward > Listermen > > 5. Priscilla Laduke born 1898 - L.J. Berger > > 6. Madelin Rose Laduke born 1899 - George LaTondress > > 7. Agnes Pearl Laduke born 1901- Raleigh Daugherty/Dougherty > > 8. Aloysius John LaDuke born 1903 - Elizabeth Fredrickson > > 9. Lewis Laduke- born and died 1904 > > 10. Francis Hubert Laduke - born 1909 died 1915 drowned > > > > *funeral card Selina LaDuke born August 11, 1862 died November 13, 1948 > buried Mt. Olivet Cemetery Detroit, MI. Her sister was Adelaide Sheff > married to Francis Goudreau. Selena came from Kent, Ontario Canada related > to Thibodeau's also. > > > > *Peter worked for the Diamond Match Co. in Ontonagon, MI and fished. For > his first paycheck he bought a gun to hunt to feed his family and a > newspaper subscription although he couldn't read. Short bio by Alma Swinton. > Mrs. Swinton was a doctor's wife and often accompanied Madelin Laduke to her > appts. She was sight and hearing impaired and had learned Braile. > > > > In 1920 Joseph Laduke and Mae nee Dougherty are living next to an Odelia > and Priscilla Leduke. > > In 1920 George Latondress and Madge are living next to a Claud and Agnes > Laduke. > > > > I don't have much more just tidbits here and there. I had ordered a death > record for Peter Laduke but, I am not sure if I have the right one. > > That is where the Austin Laduke and Catherine Pelka came in from the last > email. Please let me know if anything sounds familiar or if it can be > corrected. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Jo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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Jolene: I had some old 1850/1860 census information copied from an old microfilm from many years ago. I did not see the name Duck on it nor Leduc. However, I have researched families in the Alger Co. Michigan area that had the name Laduc in their lineage. My husband had an Elizabeth Leduc, a Mrs. Lamouria, and a possibly cousin had an Emma Leduc. A Mrs. Atherton, who recently passed, had a grandmother Leduc. These Leducs migrated here from Cheboygan, Michigan and before that, Russell Co. Clarence Creek, Ontario. Another Rosie Laduke, maiden name Carrow, from Cheboygan who had children Dorris, Rena, Elmer, and Clyde. I will keep my eye out for Duck while searching records. This probably don't help much but wanted to let you know I looked. The 1870 Michigan Census is free on line. Give it a try http://envoy.libomich.lib.mi.us/1870 and the Cheboygan Genealogical Society is on line. Happy Hunting, Anita ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jolene Killoran" <sisgldhr@up.net> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:46 PM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] In detail Laduke > Hello, > > I gather from not getting a responce my Duck family question -it was a stupid one. Sorry, just gets frustrating sometimes looking. Just hoping someone might know of my family. Thought I give some more details. > > "Joseph" Peter LeDuke born abt. 1849 Detroit, Michigan. Assuming his parents died young.... > Peter had sisters by the name of Rose, Alice, and Kitty. Might be more siblings??? > > I was thinking that Rose Laduke age 14 was placed with Antoine Morafa family 1870 Census Detroit, MI. Alice Laduke 1870 Census age 11 St. Vincent's Orphans Detroit, MI. Kitty was said to be married to a Voss - Peter lived with her and ran away at about 12 years old. > > Peter Laduke married 1. unknown (could be Rose?) unsure > > Child: Nettie - nickname (could be Edna?) unsure * found Nettie Laduke 1900 Detroit Michigan Census at Mother Mary of Saint Scholastica House of Good Sheperd working in laundry. > > 2. Selena Sheff (her second marriage also) First marriage said to be Anthony Charboneau. > > *birth record Mary Adelaide Charboneau birth May 14, 1886 Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan. Name of Father: Anthony Charboneau Name of Mother: Selena Sheff. 2nd Marriage Record of Mary Charboneau stated Father's name as: Arthur Charbeneau. > > Children from Peter and who they married > > 1. Joseph Laduke born 1887 Saginaw, MI died 1954 - Mae Dougherty > 2. Joseph Leduke born 1895 Whitefish Pointe, MI - Evelyn? > 3. Theodore Laduke born 1892 Manistique, MI > 4. Geneveive Germaine Laduke born 1894 died 1957 - LaFernier / Edward Listermen > 5. Priscilla Laduke born 1898 - L.J. Berger > 6. Madelin Rose Laduke born 1899 - George LaTondress > 7. Agnes Pearl Laduke born 1901- Raleigh Daugherty/Dougherty > 8. Aloysius John LaDuke born 1903 - Elizabeth Fredrickson > 9. Lewis Laduke- born and died 1904 > 10. Francis Hubert Laduke - born 1909 died 1915 drowned > > *funeral card Selina LaDuke born August 11, 1862 died November 13, 1948 buried Mt. Olivet Cemetery Detroit, MI. Her sister was Adelaide Sheff married to Francis Goudreau. Selena came from Kent, Ontario Canada related to Thibodeau's also. > > *Peter worked for the Diamond Match Co. in Ontonagon, MI and fished. For his first paycheck he bought a gun to hunt to feed his family and a newspaper subscription although he couldn't read. Short bio by Alma Swinton. Mrs. Swinton was a doctor's wife and often accompanied Madelin Laduke to her appts. She was sight and hearing impaired and had learned Braile. > > In 1920 Joseph Laduke and Mae nee Dougherty are living next to an Odelia and Priscilla Leduke. > In 1920 George Latondress and Madge are living next to a Claud and Agnes Laduke. > > I don't have much more just tidbits here and there. I had ordered a death record for Peter Laduke but, I am not sure if I have the right one. > That is where the Austin Laduke and Catherine Pelka came in from the last email. Please let me know if anything sounds familiar or if it can be corrected. > > Thank you. > > Jo > > > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hi All I have just completed my volunteer work with the annual Times Colonist (our local newspaper) book sale. I have several copies of Peter Newman's books Company of Adventurers (ISBN 0-670-80379-0) and Caesars of the Wilderness (ISBN 0-670-80967-5) - six (6) hardcover copies of Caesars of the Wilderness and nine (9) hardcover copies of Company of Adventurers. I also have a quantity of soft cover copies of each - C of A (ISBN 0-14-006720-5) AND C of the W (ISBN 0-14-008630-7). The only cost involved is postage as I did not have to pay for the books - but remember postage in and out of Canada is expensive. Depending on where you live the postage can be from $2.00 to over $10.00 so think about the cost before you ask for a copy since I am going to ask for payment before mailing. I also picked up a copy of the local history book for Bragg Creek, Priddis, Kew and Millarville (Alberta) but it cost me $10.00 (I already have a copy in my library but thought someone might be interest! ed). There is a slight tear in the top of the spine where someone pulled at the top of it, but otherwise it is in good condition. It is a first edition in 1975, ISBN 0-919212-81-6 (cost is $10.00 plus postage). Tomorrow is our clean-up day but I don't think there are any more books that might be of interest. There are thousands of book that will be sent to recycle for the paper - seems like a shame to destroy so many books but the cost of storage and distribution is prohibitive. If you are interested please contact me off the list at nanitort@shaw.ca Take care Stan

Thanks to several of you for the help you're trying to give me on locating information Israel Francis Bernier and others in my lines. Today I located a Francois Bernier b. 1806 at Maskinonge, Quebec, CA. He wound up in the area of St. Paul, Oregon and was busy building a family there at the time my Israel Francis Bernier was born in Maskinonge (1845), but it appears his father Francois Bernier was born abt. 1780 in Maskinonge. The younger Francois have a connection to Hudson's Bay Fur Company here. Of all the men with the Bernier surname who emigrated to the US this is the first I've found from that same community other than Israel Francis Bernier. So, I'm tossing this out to see if anyone knows anything of this family. Thanks to Anita for the idea of getting his Civil War and pension records. I'll get busy on that. You all are keeping me in the hunt! Thanks! Linda

Did you mean Grand Rapids, Michigan? If you send to the National Archives for your Civil War ancestor's file and ask for the Personnel File and Pension File, it will give you much more information than the Military File. I will take a look at my Prairie du Chien information. Remember that Crawford Co. and Brown Co. Wisconsin were Michigan at one time. You may want to try writing the State Historical Society of Wisconsin for your information. They were very helpful to me in this type of research. Anita, great grand daughter of a Michigan Civil War Vet. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Llking47@aol.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 1:13 PM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Israel Francis Bernier > Greetings! > I am new to this list but have been reading it and the archives for > several weeks. I've found information that makes me believe one of many of you > may have the information I'm seeking, so offer thanks to the many > contributors! > > My paternal great grandfather was Israel Francis Bernier. According to > his Civil War discharge papers he was born 1845 at Maskinonge, Quebec, CA. On > his citizenship application he says he emigrated to the US in July 1846 > through Detroit. > He enlisted in Company B, the 46th Infantry from Grand Rapids, WI in > 1865, catching the last months of the war. > Family information says he married Mary Susan LaVigne about 1873 and > probably in Juneau County, perhaps Necedah, WI. He died there 11 Sept 1895. > Mary Susan, born 11 June 1850, was the daughter of Charles LaVigne and > Ursula Lessard LeRoy (Roy, Roi) LaVigne of Portage, WI. > I am drawing blanks on the US census lists for Israel Francis Bernier. > This family was Catholic--Charles and Ursula LaVigne are buried in St. > Mary's Cemetery at Portage. The story is that Ursula was born at Prairie Du > Chein, 1818 to Pierre Lessard and Julie Crelie, was a sister to Pierre > Pauquette's wife and a granddaughter to Joseph Creley (Creli). Charles LaVigne > claimed Michigan as a birth place and gave the year as 1810. His parents are > supposed to be Jean Baptist LaVigne and Elizabeth Hyotte of Prairie du Chein. > > I would appreciate any help you can give confirming any of this. I am > especially interested in any traditional names and tribal affiliations you > might have for any of the above as that information is lacking from the > information that's been passed to me by distant cousins. > I discussed this with my father before he died and it was all new > information to him although he said his German cousins from his mother's side > always called him and his sister "The Indian" and "The Squaw" and they weren't > being nice about it. He questioned his parents but was only told he was half > French and to be quiet about "that Indian nonsense". I would like to claim with > pride something that appears to have been lost to him, if in fact it was > there. > Unfortunately I'm 2000 miles distant from being able to research any > records in Wisconsin and am unable to travel so I'm depending on your > generosity to help me put the family story together for younger generations. Thanks so > much! Linda. > > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Here is the second part - additions/corrections appreciated, thanks, Jim. Third Generation 9. Julie CRELIE, born 2 Apr 1795. She married Pierre LESSARD, 11 May 1813 in Prairie du Chien, WI.[1] Children: i Ursule LESARD, born 13 Oct 1818, baptized 6 Aug 1827 in Prairie du Chien, WI.[2] ii Ignace LESARD, born 22 Feb 1822, baptized 6 Aug 1827 in Prairie du Chien, WI,[3] died 17 May 1829, buried 18 May 1829 in Prairie du Chien, WI. iii Jean-Baptiste LESARD, born 4 Oct 1825, baptized 6 Aug 1827 in Prairie du Chien, WI.[4] 10. Josephine CRELIE, born 1807, died 4 May 1829, buried 5 May 1829 in Prairie du Chien, WI.[5] She married Pierre LEGRIS, 1823.[6] Children: i Sophie LEGRIS, born 18 Apr 1829,[7] baptized 26 Apr 1829 in Prairie du Chien, WI.[8] 11. Genevieve COURVILLE, born c. 1809, baptized 28 Apr 1817 in Prairie du Chien, WI. She married George FISHER, 11 Jun 1825 in Prairie du Chien, WI, born c. 1805, (son of Henry Munro FISHER/FISCHER and Magdelene GAUTIER-de-VERVILLE). Children: i Henry FISHER, born (1)5 May 1826, baptized 28 May 1827 in Prairie du Chien, WI. ii Magdaleine FISHER, born 24 Nov 1828, baptized 11 Dec 1828 in St. Gabriels, Prairie du Chien, WI.[9] iii George FISHER, born 25 Jul 1830 in Little Chute, WI, died 25 Nov 1898 in Lebret, SK, CAN. iv Ambroise FISHER, born c. 1838 in US, died 31 Oct 1913 in Duck Lake, SK, CAN. v Alexander Pierre FISHER, born c. 1838 in WI, baptized 16 Jan 1839 in Little Chute, WI, died 19 Jan 1900. 12. Florence COURVILLE, born Dec 1816 in Prairie du Chien, WI, died 3 Mar 1882. Partner Pierre PAQUETTE. Children: i Celeste PAQUETTE. She married _____ CORMIER. She married (2) Toussaint ST-ONGE, born c. 1810 in CAN. Toussaint: Son of Glode and Quin [sic) (Payant) ST-ONGE. Children: ii Oliver SAINTONGE, born 1842. iii Celina SAINTONGE, born c. 1843. iv Theodore SAINTONGE, born 1843/5, died 19 Sept 1879, (see note 2). Single. 13. v Alexis b. 31 Mar 1847. 14. vi Napoleon SAINT b. 22 Jul 1848. vii Charles SAINTONGE, born 1850. viii Augustine/Gustav SAINTONGE, born Jul 1852/3. 15. ix Mary Ann b. 12 Oct 1854. x Toussaint SAINTONGE Jr., born 28 Aug 1858. Fourth Generation 13. Alexis SAINTONGE, born 31 Mar 1847, died 7 Jan 1909 in Fairchild, WI. He married (1) Philomene LEMEROND, born 28 Aug 1856, died 6 Jan 1883. Children: i Joseph SAINTONGE, born 1873. ii Mary SAINTONGE, born 1876. iii Alzada SAINTONGE, born 1878. iv Rose SAINTONGE, born May 1880, died young. He married (2) Mary REED, born 27 Jun 1868, (daughter of Joseph REED and Charlotte CHARBONNEAU) died 25 Jun 1943. Children: v Josephine SAINTONGE, born 1902. 14. Napoleon SAINTONGE/ST. ONGE, born 22 Jul 1848. He married (1) Louise LEMERE, born 1850, died 21 Jan 1887. Children: i Charles ST. ONGE, born 1878. He married Rose PAYANT. ii Sarah Marie ST. ONGE, born 8 Jul 1880. She married _____ LAMBERT. iii Samuel ST. ONGE, born 1883. He married (2) Adelaide ALLARD. 15. Mary Ann SAINTONGE, born 12 Oct 1854, died 22 Mar 1931. She married James GAGNON, born 1853. Children: i Margaret GAGNON. ii Martha GAGNON. iii August GAGNON. Note 1 Surname listed as PAUSE in Bp. record. Note 2 Killed leaving a saloon. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1] Rentmeester, Les & Jeanne, WISCONSIN CREOLES (Rentmeester, Melbourne, FL, c. 1987), 231. [2] O'Reilly, Isabel (transcriber), Parish Registers of Prairie-du-Chien, Galena, and Fever River, 1827-1833 (American Catholic Historical Society Records, 1911, v. 22), 172. [3] O'Reilly, Isabel (transcriber), Parish Registers of Prairie-du-Chien, Galena, and Fever River, 1827-1833 (American Catholic Historical Society Records, 1911, v. 22), 173. [4] O'Reilly, Isabel (transcriber), Parish Registers of Prairie-du-Chien, Galena, and Fever River, 1827-1833 (American Catholic Historical Society Records, 1911, v. 22), 173. [5] O'Reilly, Isabel (transcriber), Parish Registers of Prairie-du-Chien, Galena, and Fever River, 1827-1833 (American Catholic Historical Society Records, 1911, v. 22), 190. [6] Rentmeester, Les & Jeanne, WISCONSIN CREOLES (Rentmeester, Melbourne, FL, c. 1987), 231. [7] Rentmeester, Les & Jeanne, WISCONSIN CREOLES (Rentmeester, Melbourne, FL, c. 1987), 231. [8] O'Reilly, Isabel (transcriber), Parish Registers of Prairie-du-Chien, Galena, and Fever River, 1827-1833 (American Catholic Historical Society Records, 1911, v. 22), 189. [9] O'Reilly, Isabel (transcriber), Parish Registers of Prairie-du-Chien, Galena, and Fever River, 1827-1833 (American Catholic Historical Society Records, 1911, v. 22), 188. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Llking47@aol.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 1:13 PM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Israel Francis Bernier > Greetings! > I am new to this list but have been reading it and the archives for > several weeks. I've found information that makes me believe one of many > of you > may have the information I'm seeking, so offer thanks to the many > contributors! > > My paternal great grandfather was Israel Francis Bernier. According > to > his Civil War discharge papers he was born 1845 at Maskinonge, Quebec, > CA. On > his citizenship application he says he emigrated to the US in July 1846 > through Detroit. > He enlisted in Company B, the 46th Infantry from Grand Rapids, WI in > 1865, catching the last months of the war. > Family information says he married Mary Susan LaVigne about 1873 and > probably in Juneau County, perhaps Necedah, WI. He died there 11 Sept > 1895. > Mary Susan, born 11 June 1850, was the daughter of Charles LaVigne > and > Ursula Lessard LeRoy (Roy, Roi) LaVigne of Portage, WI. > I am drawing blanks on the US census lists for Israel Francis > Bernier. > This family was Catholic--Charles and Ursula LaVigne are buried in > St. > Mary's Cemetery at Portage. The story is that Ursula was born at Prairie > Du > Chein, 1818 to Pierre Lessard and Julie Crelie, was a sister to Pierre > Pauquette's wife and a granddaughter to Joseph Creley (Creli). Charles > LaVigne > claimed Michigan as a birth place and gave the year as 1810. His parents > are > supposed to be Jean Baptist LaVigne and Elizabeth Hyotte of Prairie du > Chein. > > I would appreciate any help you can give confirming any of this. I am > especially interested in any traditional names and tribal affiliations > you > might have for any of the above as that information is lacking from the > information that's been passed to me by distant cousins. > I discussed this with my father before he died and it was all new > information to him although he said his German cousins from his mother's > side > always called him and his sister "The Indian" and "The Squaw" and they > weren't > being nice about it. He questioned his parents but was only told he was > half > French and to be quiet about "that Indian nonsense". I would like to > claim with > pride something that appears to have been lost to him, if in fact it was > there. > Unfortunately I'm 2000 miles distant from being able to research any > records in Wisconsin and am unable to travel so I'm depending on your > generosity to help me put the family story together for younger > generations. Thanks so > much! Linda. > > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Here is part 1 (5 pages total) - additions/corrections appreciated. 1. Pierre PELLETIER-ANTAYA/ANTAILLIA, born c. 1750, (son of Pierre PELLETIER-ANTAYA and Francoise PARENT) died 1816 in Prairie du Chien, WI. Taken from the Draper Manuscript, "Forsyth Papers", series 2T and reprinted in Michigan's Habitant Heritage, v.9 #3 (Jul. 1988), p.60 by the French-Canadian Heritage Society of Michigan. It is a list of metis Sauk-Fox "who claim land according to the treaty made at Washington City, on the 4th August, 1824." The list is given twice, the first list contains the names of people living at the time of the treaty, the second list is that of the children "who are supposed to be now living." Additional info was given in the article taken from Prairie du Chien parish records. . He married Catherine POKOUPEE-RENAUD, buried in Old French Cem., Prairie du Chien, WI. Catherine: Fox Indian. Children: 2. i Elizabeth b. c. 1784. 3. ii Frances b. c. 1785. 4. iii Margaret b. c. 1786. 5. iv Maria b. c. 1790. v Therese ANTAYA. Unsure of her parentage. She married Michael GAUTIER, born 1790, (son of Claude-Charles GAUTIER/GAULTHIER and unknown). vi Josephte Louise ANTAYA/ANTAILLIA. She married Charles LaPOINTE, (son of _____ LaPOINTE and unknown). 6. vii Theotiste/Theodille b. c. 1795. 7. viii Euphrosine b. c. 1797. 8. ix Catherine b. c. 1797. x Isaac ANTAYA/ANTAILLIA, born c. 1799, baptized 7 May 1817 in Prairie du Chien, WI. xi Isidore ANTAYA/ANTAILLIA, born c. 1801, baptized 2 May 1817 in Prairie du Chien, WI. xii Chrystsom ANTAYA, born 1804. He married Julia GRIGNON, born 1813, (daughter of Augustin GRIGNON and Teresa DeKORAH/Ma-Na-Tee-See). Second Generation 2. Elizabeth ANTAYA/ANTAILLIA, born c. 1784. She married (1) Jean-Marie CARDINAL, died 1823. Children: i Eustache CARDINAL, born 21 Jan 1808, baptized 4 May 1817 in Prairie du Chien, WI. ii Helie CARDINAL, born 14 Jan 1810, baptized 4 May 1817 in Prairie du Chien, WI. iii Pierre CARDINAL, born 20 Dec 1812, baptized 4 May 1817 in Prairie du Chien, WI. iv Paul CARDINAL, baptized 4 May 1817 in Prairie du Chien, WI. v Julien CARDINAL, born 19 Dec 1826?, baptized 9 Jul 1827 in Prairie du Chien, WI.[1] She married (2) Jean-Baptiste OUELLET. 3. Frances ANTAYA/ANTAILLIA, born c. 1785. She married (1) Joseph CRELIE/CRELIS, born 1771, died 1865. Children: 9. i Julie b. 2 Apr 1795. ii Marie-Louise CRELIE, born 12 May 1796. iii Therese-Josephine CRELIE, born 4 Dec 1798. iv Joseph CRELIE, born 1803. 10. v Josephine b. 1807. She married (2) Pierre COURVILLE, born 1784, (son of Antoine COURVILLE and unknown). Children: 11. vi Genevieve b. c. 1809. vii Pierre COURVILLE Jr., born 1811. viii Antoine COURVILLE, born c. 1812, baptized 28 Apr 1817 in Prairie du Chien, WI. 12. ix Florence b. Dec 1816. x Francoise COURVILLE, born 1 Apr 1821, baptized 17 Jun 1827 in Prairie du Chien, WI. 4. Margaret ANTAYA/ANTAILLIA, born c. 1786. She married Pierre LARIVIERE. Children: i Baptiste LARIVIERE. 5. Maria ANTAYA/ANTAILLIA, born c. 1790. She married Pierre LAPOINTE, (son of _____ LaPOINTE and unknown). Children: i Euphrosine LAPOINTE. ii Pierre LAPOINTE. 6. Theotiste/Theodille ANTAYA/ANTAILLIA, born c. 1795. She married (1) Edouard LaGOTERIE. Children: i Judith LaGOTERIE. She married (2) Francois PREVO(S)T. 7. Euphrosine ANTAYA/ANTAILLIA, born c. 1797, baptized 5 May 1817 in Prairie du Chien, WI. She married (1) James FRAZER. Children: i Domitille FRAZER. She married (2) Strange POWERS. Children: ii Helene POWERS, born 18 Sept 1819, baptized 12 Aug 1827 in Prairie du Chien, WI. iii Euphrosine POWERS, born 13 Feb 1821, baptized 26 Jun 1827 in Prairie du Chien, WI.[2] iv Jean-Baptiste POWER(S), born 10 Oct 1826, baptized 4 Jun 1827 in Prairie du Chien, WI.[3] v George POWERS, baptized 8 Sept 1828 in Prairie du Chien, WI,[4] (see note 1). vi Harriet POWERS. 8. Catherine ANTAYA/ANTAILLIA, born c. 1797, baptized 2 May 1817 in Prairie du Chien, WI, buried 10 Oct 1817 in Prairie du Chien, WI. She married Andre BAZIN. Children: i Pierre BAZIN. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1] O'Reilly, Isabel (transcriber), Parish Registers of Prairie-du-Chien, Galena, and Fever River, 1827-1833 (American Catholic Historical Society Records, 1911, v. 22), 170. [2] O'Reilly, Isabel (transcriber), Parish Registers of Prairie-du-Chien, Galena, and Fever River, 1827-1833 (American Catholic Historical Society Records, 1911, v. 22), 170. [3] O'Reilly, Isabel (transcriber), Parish Registers of Prairie-du-Chien, Galena, and Fever River, 1827-1833 (American Catholic Historical Society Records, 1911, v. 22), 166. [4] O'Reilly, Isabel (transcriber), Parish Registers of Prairie-du-Chien, Galena, and Fever River, 1827-1833 (American Catholic Historical Society Records, 1911, v. 22), 186. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Llking47@aol.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 1:13 PM Subject: [NISHNAWBE] Israel Francis Bernier > Greetings! > I am new to this list but have been reading it and the archives for > several weeks. I've found information that makes me believe one of many > of you > may have the information I'm seeking, so offer thanks to the many > contributors! > > My paternal great grandfather was Israel Francis Bernier. According > to > his Civil War discharge papers he was born 1845 at Maskinonge, Quebec, > CA. On > his citizenship application he says he emigrated to the US in July 1846 > through Detroit. > He enlisted in Company B, the 46th Infantry from Grand Rapids, WI in > 1865, catching the last months of the war. > Family information says he married Mary Susan LaVigne about 1873 and > probably in Juneau County, perhaps Necedah, WI. He died there 11 Sept > 1895. > Mary Susan, born 11 June 1850, was the daughter of Charles LaVigne > and > Ursula Lessard LeRoy (Roy, Roi) LaVigne of Portage, WI. > I am drawing blanks on the US census lists for Israel Francis > Bernier. > This family was Catholic--Charles and Ursula LaVigne are buried in > St. > Mary's Cemetery at Portage. The story is that Ursula was born at Prairie > Du > Chein, 1818 to Pierre Lessard and Julie Crelie, was a sister to Pierre > Pauquette's wife and a granddaughter to Joseph Creley (Creli). Charles > LaVigne > claimed Michigan as a birth place and gave the year as 1810. His parents > are > supposed to be Jean Baptist LaVigne and Elizabeth Hyotte of Prairie du > Chein. > > I would appreciate any help you can give confirming any of this. I am > especially interested in any traditional names and tribal affiliations > you > might have for any of the above as that information is lacking from the > information that's been passed to me by distant cousins. > I discussed this with my father before he died and it was all new > information to him although he said his German cousins from his mother's > side > always called him and his sister "The Indian" and "The Squaw" and they > weren't > being nice about it. He questioned his parents but was only told he was > half > French and to be quiet about "that Indian nonsense". I would like to > claim with > pride something that appears to have been lost to him, if in fact it was > there. > Unfortunately I'm 2000 miles distant from being able to research any > records in Wisconsin and am unable to travel so I'm depending on your > generosity to help me put the family story together for younger > generations. Thanks so > much! Linda. > > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Greetings! I am new to this digest but have been reading it and the archives for several weeks. I've found information that makes me believe one of many of you may have the information I'm seeking, so offer thanks to the many contributors! My paternal great grandfather was Israel Francis Bernier. According to his Civil War discharge papers he was born 1845 at Maskinonge, Quebec, CA. On his citizenship application he says he emigrated to the US in July 1846 through Detroit. He enlisted in Company B, the 46th Infantry from Grand Rapids, WI in 1865, catching the last months of the war. Family information says he married Mary Susan LaVigne about 1873 and probably in Juneau County, perhaps Necedah, WI. He died there 11 Sept 1895. Mary Susan, born 11 June 1850, was the daughter of Charles LaVigne and Ursula Lessard LeRoy (Roy, Roi) LaVigne of Portage, WI. I am drawing blanks on the US census lists for Israel Francis Bernier. This family was Catholic--Charles and Ursula LaVigne are buried in St. Mary's Cemetery at Portage. The story is that Ursula was born at Prairie Du Chein, 1818 to Pierre Lessard and Julie Crelie, was a sister to Pierre Pauquette's wife and a granddaughter to Joseph Creley (Creli). Charles LaVigne claimed Michigan as a birth place and gave the year as 1810. His parents are supposed to be Jean Baptist LaVigne and Elizabeth Hyotte of Prairie du Chein. I would appreciate any help you can give confirming any of this. I am especially interested in any traditional names and tribal affiliations you might have for any of the above as that information is lacking from the information that's been passed to me by distant cousins. I discussed this with my father before he died and it was all new information to him although he said his German cousins from his mother's side always called him and his sister "The Indian" and "The Squaw" and they weren't being nice about it. He questioned his parents but was only told he was half French and to be quiet about "that Indian nonsense". I would like to claim with pride something that appears to have been lost to him, if in fact it was there. Unfortunately I'm 2000 miles distant from being able to research any records in Wisconsin and am unable to travel so I'm depending on your generosity to help me put the family story together for younger generations. Thanks so much! Linda.