Hello Listers General Registration began in Ireland as follows; Protestant marriages from 1st January 1845 Catholic marriages from 1st January 1864 All Births from 1st January 1864 All Deaths from 1st January 1864 With a few exceptions all pre 1901 Census returns were pulped for waste paper during the First World War. Prior to these dates research is fully dependent on Church Records of baptism and marriage. The make this feasible we must narrow the search to a Parish. We must do this without the aid of census records. GRONI in Belfast hold all records of birth and death from 1864, Protestant marriage from 1845, Catholic marriages from 1864 {all to the present day}, which took place in the 6 counties of Northern Ireland. They also have some registers for the Republic where a Registration district crossed the old County {later international border} line. A good example of this would be Kilderry District { Londonderry Lower Liberties and Muff County Donegal} 60% in N Ireland 40% in The Republic best regards Robert www.ulsterancestry.com > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 04:47:38 +0000 > CC: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NIR-DERRY] Difference between Ireland and Northern Ireland forresearchers > > Just to add to Ray's information. > Ireland as a whole is an Island consisting of 32 counties and those are > divided between 4 Provinces, Ulster. Munster, Leinster and Connaght. > When the Border was established in 1922 [You are correct Ray] the Southern > 26 Counties became the Irish Free State, later becoming the Republic of > Ireland (Eiré). > When the RoI made application to join the European Union (EU) the Irish > Government of the day insisted they be registered as Ireland > Northern Ireland now consists of 6 of the original 9 Counties of the > Province of Ulster, namely Counties Antrim, Armagh, Down, Fermanagh, > Londonderry and Tyrone. > Birth Marriage and Death [BMD] Records for all of Ireland, prior to 1922, > were held in Dublin and most were housed in the GPO buildings where, sadly > there was a fire and most of the records were destroyed. > Surviving census records are those fragments of 1841 and 1851 which had been > "called down" by local authorities dealing with applications for the Old Age > Pension for verification of peoples ages who had applied for the pension > c1906/7. Other Census records were pulped due to a paper shortage during > WW1. > That is why Census substitutes, such as Tithe Applotment Books, [c1823 to > 1835] if available, and Griffith's Valuation [c1837 to 1862/3] records, > which gives the occupier, as head of family, of each household. > The 1901 and 1911 Census are available free on line at > http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ > Copies of most of the records held by the National Archives in Dublin are > held at PRONI in Belfast. > BMDs after 1922 for the Northern 6 Counties are held at GRONI in Belfast. > There are still BMD records for before 1922 but most of those are held by > the local Registrars or in the Parish Church where the event took place. > Hope that helps > Viola > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message