This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: elwynsoutter1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/7414.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This might be the family in the 1901 & 1911 censuses: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Killyclogher/Tirquin/1745930/ http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Killyclogher/Tirquin/874478/ Occupation changes from stonemason to farmer so he presumably did a bit of both. 12 children born to them, of whom 9 were alive in 1911. Looks as though James and Jane married c 1862 which is before RC marriages were recorded in the statutory records (1864). So the only record of their marriage would be in the church (if you know which one they married in). Familysearch has the following additional children to that couple: James 1868; Edward 1870; Luke 1871; Mary Jane 1873; Elizabeth 1875; Matilda 1877. In addition the 1901 census gives you Maggie & Susan. Births were in different parts of the county so the family seems to have moved a couple of times over the years. Probably worth getting all the birth certs to get the townlands to see exactly where the family were living at each time. (Birth registration only started in 1864, so any births before that won't be in the stat records. You would need baptism records). Cheapest way of getting the certs is from GRO Roscommon. Ask for photocopies which are cheaper than formal certs. http://www.groireland.ie/ You could use the Griffiths revaluation records in PRONI, Belfast to find out when James acquired the farm in Tirquin, and who succeeded him. VAL12B series. Killyclogher DED. (They are not on-line). You could also use them to locate him prior to that, from the townlands on the children's birth certs. Some of the births were in Drumragh RC parish. PRONI has copies of the following records: Drumragh (Omagh) (Derry diocese) Baptisms, marriages and deaths, 1846 and 1853-81; index to baptisms, 1846-79; printed history of the parish, mainly from the 17th century to c.1900. MIC1D/60; CR/2/9 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.