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    1. Re: [NIR-TYRONE] Mcmahon, Bernard M.D.

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: southwest50 Surnames: M'Mahon Gavin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/7419.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for your reply and source references. I do not have the name of the son. My principal interest is in William Gavin where I have reached a blank in trying to discover his origins. During his military service William Gavin wrote a diary in which he described, in 1810 whilst fighting in Portugal, a chance encounter with a soldier from the 30th Regiment who stated he was the son of Doctor M'Mahon of Omaghrin in Tyrone and his (William's) cousin. Through any connection with the M'Mahon family I was hoping to be able to trace William's origins. The full diary reference is at http://www.waterloodiary.net/william_gavin's_diary_05.html Pigots directory of Omagh in 1824 lists a Bernard M'Mahon M.D. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/23/2013 02:54:40
    1. Re: [NIR-TYRONE] Mcmahon, Bernard M.D.

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/7419.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you have the name of the son or are you trying to find a son with an unknown name? Tithe Applotments 1820-1839 "Ireland" 1827 Bernard McMahon, Parish Creggan Townland Sytrim, Armagh County (not Omagh, Tyrone) I did not find a Bernard McMahon as a M.D. in Tyrone or Armagh in any of the commercial directories. I've always thought of Bernard as an unusual name in Ireland but the the 1871 UK Census there are 8 born in Ireland and in the 1841 4 born in Ireland(all under 45) Irish Wills Index:National Library Will 1836 Armagh Diocese, for Bernard McMahon Addr:Killen IAR/1836/F/107 Vol. No. 4/237/35 Executor P.McMahon Will 1838 Clogher Diocese for Bernard McMahon Exe:A.McMahon Address: Crieve Transcript IAR/1838/F/131 Vol.4/237/36 Griffith Valuation: 1862 Armagh Bernard McMahon, Parish Creggan, Townland Creevkeeran, Poor Law Union Castleblayney tenant of Reps. John Reid #21 house, outbuildings and land 6 acres 0 roods 35 perches Other McMahon names in the same Parish are Bridget, Margaret, Rose, Mary & Patrick, John, Ardle, Arthur, Edward, Michael and Hugh. There are Church of Ireland marriages 1845-1862 for Armagh & Tyrone - none with a father Bernard There are two sources for information on birth records both are pay websites. www.emeraldancestors.com Free to view, pay for a record www.rootsireland.ie not for profit but fee based. Armagh Parish records from 1801 Church of Ireland, 1796 RC No births for Creggan, marriages from 1845-1921, Presbyterian Armagh 1707 many gaps, Creggan no births There is a message board for Military Genealogy called MILGENIRE Annette Code Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/22/2013 10:02:23
    1. [NIR-TYRONE] Mcmahon, Bernard M.D.

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: southwest50 Surnames: Mcmahon Gavin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/7419/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am seeking information on a son of Bernard Mcmahon, Physician who practiced in Omagh in the early 1800's. His son enlisted in the British Army during the Peninsular Wars and had a cousin William GAVIN in the 71st Highland Light Infantry Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/22/2013 11:31:16
    1. [NIR-TYRONE] Urney, Strabane Co.Tyrone Help Offered

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cows608 Surnames: Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/7418/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dear All, If you are looking for info. about ancestors in this area, more specifically, Protestants, presbyterian, let me know. I will be researching these church records at Proni when I go to a wedding there so I can keep an eye out for your ancestors too if you want. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/21/2013 05:24:31
    1. Re: [NIR-TYRONE] Corrigan/McGinn/Dunbar - County Tyrone, Ireland

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: badams5971 Surnames: McGinn, Corrigan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/2262.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am related to Corrigans from County Tyrone. Many came to the US and landed around Philadelphia area. Ellen Corrigan b. Feb. 1858. She married George McGinn of Philadelphia. (His parents had come from Ireland.) Haven't had much luck with this line. Maybe there is a connection. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/20/2013 02:57:43
    1. Re: [NIR-TYRONE] HAGAN/O'HAGAN families

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: badams5971 Surnames: Corrigan Hagan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/894.1344/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My 2nd great grandmother was Anne Hagan Corrigan. She was born about 1840 in Ireland. She had been living in Tyrone. It seems that husband John Corrigan died and over the years, Anne as well as many of their 9 children headed to the Philadelphia area of PA. Don't know much about the Hagan's that stayed in Ireland. Anne's parents were Hugh Hagan and Bridget Kelly Hagan. Let me know if there is a connection, would love to learn more. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/20/2013 02:19:57
    1. Re: [NIR-TYRONE] Archibald Noble

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: udoadam Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/1881.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Am working on Archibald noble born in Fivemiletown, Tyrone. I am trying to sort out the various family members as there are to many Roberts, Samuels etc. I do have some info to share and maybe we could collaborate Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/19/2013 08:23:20
    1. Re: [NIR-TYRONE] James Wallace b. May 30, 1717 in County Tyrone, Ireland

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Hwallace117 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/882.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, my name is Hugh Wallace, live in Watervliet, NY, Through the Wallace/Wallis FTDNA project, I have been connected to two or three other peeople who like you are connected to the Wallace/McCullough family, Mine is Scot ancestry and theirs is Irish,theirs matching the James Wallace, b. 1717 in Tyrone, moving to and living until his death in Abbeville So. Carolina,and the Joshua you note. I exchange info with them, we are trying to figure out just when we had the common parent,they have info beyond what you have written and probably would like to share, if and when you receive this please use my email to communicate, it is [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/18/2013 02:23:27
    1. Re: [NIR-TYRONE] Co. Tyrone Storeys & other families they married

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CJAnita Surnames: Story Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/2584.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am related to the Storys of Corick and would be interested in information you have about them. Thank you very much. Anita (Ransom, Groves, Groves-Lodge, Lodge-Tompson, Lodge-Story, Story-Young, Story-Theaker) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/14/2013 05:33:14
    1. Re: [NIR-TYRONE] Dardenellie Hartnett

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: trentshepherd Surnames: Hartnett Shepherd Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/3242.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry for the late reply, I have a Henry Hartnett 1878. In have a lot more. email me at [email protected] for further information. thanks trent Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/14/2013 02:27:55
    1. Re: [NIR-TYRONE] Williamson Family

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jaynj69 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/7406.2.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ok I forgot about Joseph father being John but yes quite possibly cousins then. I still just do not understand this whole Catholic/Protestant Baptism bit going to try find out some history on the Religion side. Thank you again. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/12/2013 07:17:04
    1. Re: [NIR-TYRONE] Williamson Family

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jaynj69 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/7406.2.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ok I forgot about Joseph father being John but yes quite possibly cousins then. I still just do not understand this whole Catholic/Protestant Baptism bit going to try find out some history on the Religion side. Thank you again. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/12/2013 07:16:54
    1. Re: [NIR-TYRONE] Williamson Family

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DaveBoylan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/7406.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Emma, If you recall from my first reply, I had found the IFHF marriage index for Joseph Proctor and Susan Williamson, recorded in the Dungannon Registration District in 1885. The IFHF search engine accepted John as Joseph's father, which means that Joseph and Robert James Proctor could not have been brothers, though they may have been cousins. So that you don't have to go back to the previous reply to view the marriage index for Joseph and Susan, I've copied it below: Record Type: Marriage Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Proctor First Name: Joseph Spouse's Surname: Williamson Spouse's First Name: Susan Father's Surname: Proctor Father's First Name: John Mother's Surname: Mother's First Name: Year: 1885 Parish/District: Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) AND 1 match for the search criteria: Williamson (plus variants) Susan 1885 Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) Record Type: Marriage Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Williamson First Name: Susan Spouse's Surname: Proctor Spouse's First Name: Joseph Father's Surname: Williamson Father's First Name: John Mother's Surname: Mother's First Name: Year: 1885 Parish/District: Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) ____ I looked for the birth and baptism indexes for Robert James Proctor at the IFHF and found his baptism. I found his baptism index which shows he was baptized in the Coalisland Catholic Church in 1875. The IFHF search engine accepted John as his father, but I had to guess as to what his mother's first name was. After several attempts the search engine accepted Isabella as his mother: 1 match for the search criteria: Proctor (plus variants) Robert James 1875 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Proctor First Name: Robert James Father's Surname: Proctor Father's First Name: Alexander Mother's Surname: Mother's First Name: Isabella Year: 1875 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ To see if I could find out what Isabella's maiden name was, I next looked for the marriage index of an Alexander Proctor and Isabella at Ancestry.com, and found one entry. This is for the marriage of Alexander Proctor and Isabella McMinn recorded in the Dungannon, Tyrone Registration District in 1860. This is a civil marriage which means that Alexander and Isabella would have been Protestant: Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958 Name: Alexander Procter Date of Registration: 1860 Registration district: Dungannon Volume: 5 Page: 536 FHL Film Number: 101248 AND Name: Isabella McMinn Date of Registration: 1860 Registration district: Dungannon Volume: 5 Page: 536 FHL Film Number: 101248 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: "Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958," Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. General Register Office. "Quarterly Returns of Births in Ireland with Index to Births." Belfast, Ireland. ____ I then went back to the baptism index for Robert James Proctor to see if the search engine accepted McMinn as his mother's maiden name, but the search engine did not. But I did find the Coalisland birth and or baptism indexes for other children of Alexander and Isabella where Isabella's maiden name is McMinn. These children include Sarah Anne (1865); Alexander (1867); Charlotte (1870); and an un-named "Procton" child born in 1872. The birth indexes follow. There is not a birth index for Charlotte, as I only found her baptism index. The index for the un-named "Procton" child born in 1872, lists the mother's first name as Bella, rather than Isabella: Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 about Sarah Anne Proctor Name: Sarah Anne Proctor Gender: Female Birth Date: 27 May 1865 Birth Place: Coalisland, Tyrone, Ireland Father's Name: Alexander Proctor Mother's Name: Isabella Mcminn FHL Film Number: 101110 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 [database on-line]. Provo, UT: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911. Index. Salt Lake City, Utah: Family Search. ____ Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 Name: Alexander Proctor Gender: Male Birth Date: 18 Aug 1867 Birth Place: Coalisland, Tyrone, Ireland Father's Name: Alexander Proctor Mother's Name: Isabella Mcminn FHL Film Number: 101150 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 [database on-line]. Provo, UT: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911. Index. Salt Lake City, Utah: Family Search. ____ Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 Name: Procton Gender: Male Birth Date: 8 Jul 1872 Birth Place: Coalisland, Tyr, Ireland Baptism Place: Coalisland, Tyr, Ireland Father's Name: Alexander Procton Mother's Name: Bella Mcminn FHL Film Number: 255861 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 [database on-line]. Provo, UT: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911. Index. Salt Lake City, Utah: Family Search. ____ Next are the baptism indexes for four children of Alexander Proctor and Isabella/Bella McGinn. Like the birth index, the 1872 baptism index for the un-named "Procton" child lists his mother's first name as "Bella." 1 match for the search criteria: Proctor (plus variants) Sarah Ann 1865 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Proctor First Name: Sarah Ann Father's Surname: Proctor Father's First Name: Alexander Mother's Surname: McMinn Mother's First Name: Isabella Year: 1865 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Proctor (plus variants) Alexander 1867 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Proctor First Name: Alexander Father's Surname: Proctor Father's First Name: Alexander Mother's Surname: McMinn Mother's First Name: Isabella Year: 1867 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Proctor (plus variants) Charlotte 1870 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Proctor First Name: Charlotte Father's Surname: Proctor Father's First Name: Alexander Mother's Surname: McMinn Mother's First Name: Isabella Year: 1870 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Procton (plus variants) Unknown 1872 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Procton First Name: Unknown Father's Surname: Procton Father's First Name: Alexander Mother's Surname: McMinn Mother's First Name: Bella Year: 1872 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ You would have to order Robert James Proctor's 1875 baptism transcription to see if his mother's maiden name is listed, though I suspect his mother could have been Isabella McMinn. Just to recap, indications are that Joseph Proctor and Robert James Proctor did not share the same father, as the indexes above show that Joseph's father was John and that Robert James's father was Alexander. I looked for Alexander proctor's baptism index for the 1820s-1840s in Tyrone and other IFHF member counties, but didn't find it. Nor did I uncover a baptism index for Isabella McMinn. But I did find an Isabella Proctor in the 1901 census of Ireland living in an address of House No. 1, Mullaghmarget Tullyniskane, Tyrone. The census shows that she is a 60 year old widow born in Tyrone, and belonging to the Irish Church, that is, the Church of Ireland. In the household with her are two of her sons, 25 year old Robert, employed as a Tapper, and 23 year old William, employed as a porter. The sons are both unmarried. The census notes that Isabella, Robert, and William all speak "Broker English." The 1901 census transcription from the National Archives of Ireland website is below: Residents of a house 1 in Mullaghmarget (Tullyniskane, Tyrone) Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Proctor Isabella 60 Head of Family Irish Church Co Tyrone In House Read and write Broken English Widow Proctor Robt 25 Son Irish Church Ireland Tapper Read and write Broken English Not Married Proctor William 23 Son Irish Church Co Tyrone Porter Read and write Broken English Not Married ____ You can view a copy of the original 1901 census at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001200452/ The 1901 census also shows at least one McMinn household in close proximity to Isabella. This is the household of 72 year old widow Eliza McMinn born in County Tyrone, and her grandson, 18 year old William A. Armstrong, also born in County Tyrone. Their address is House No. 7, Mullaghmarget Tullyniskane, Tyrone: Residents of a house 7 in Mullaghmarget (Tullyniskane, Tyrone) Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses McMinn Eliza 72 Female Head of Family Church of Ireland Co Tyrone Read only Widow Armstrong William A 18 Male Grand Son Church of Ireland Co Tyrone Agricultural Labourer Read only Not Married ____ I then found 74 year old widow Isabella Proctor in the 1911 census in an address of House No. 4, Mullaghadun (Bernagh, Tyrone. In the household with her is her son, 26 year old William Proctor, employed as a railway porter. The 1901 census gave William's age as 23, which is another example as to why ages in these census returns can not always be trusted to be accurate: 1911 Census of Ireland Residents of a house 4 in Mullaghadun (Bernagh, Tyrone) Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living Proctor Isabella 74 Female Head of Family Church of Ireland Co Tyrone Read and write Widow Proctor William 26 Male Son Church of Ireland Co Tyrone Railway Porter Read and write Single ____ I'm still making progress on compiling information about the Longcake family of Cumberland, and will send that to you as soon as it is completed, hopefully by this weekend. Kind Regards, Dave Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/12/2013 07:09:52
    1. Re: [NIR-TYRONE] Williamson Family

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DaveBoylan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/7406.2.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Emma, Some planning ahead before going to Ireland may prove helpful. Good luck. I'll send the information about the Longcake family as soon as it is all compiled. I uncovered more information about the family than I thought I would. Hopefully, I'll be done with the research by Sunday, and if not by then, sometime early next week. Kind Regards, Dave Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/11/2013 09:12:33
    1. Re: [NIR-TYRONE] Williamson Family

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jaynj69 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/7406.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Proctor side: I thinking Robert James who you mentioned marriage in 1901 father Alexander, there is a strong link still in my family with the name Alexander or Alec so heres my theory. Robert poss born 1875ish Alexander b 1845ish My Joesph is born 1864 so could possibly be son of Alexander making Robert the brother of Joseph? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/11/2013 10:42:43
    1. Re: [NIR-TYRONE] Williamson Family

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jaynj69 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/7406.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes that would be great thank you. I will ask a priest I was planning on going around may so a few months to try and gain as much information as possible. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/11/2013 09:08:05
    1. Re: [NIR-TYRONE] Williamson Family

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DaveBoylan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/7406.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You're welcome Emma. If you do go to the Coalisland Catholic Church, the parish priest may be able to explain why Protestant parents had their children baptized in a Catholic Church. By the way, I've also found information about your Longcake ancestors of Cumberland. Would you like this information as well? Kind Regards, Dave Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/11/2013 08:59:27
    1. Re: [NIR-TYRONE] Williamson Family

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jaynj69 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/7406.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I really do not think there is enough words to describe how thank full I am for this Dave I will look at all the links now and compare to information I have. The bit about various children being baptised at Catholic churches I just do not understand though I knew the Flanagan side were catholics but the Wade, Proctor and Williamson I thought were Presbytarian or Church of Ireland. Will go through information now. Thank you for the advice about trip to Ireland I trying to get a list together of all the places to visit and Churches etc to try and contact. Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/11/2013 08:15:00
    1. Re: [NIR-TYRONE] Williamson Family

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DaveBoylan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/7406.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Emma, I'm not a descendant of the Williamson and Marshall families but found information that may pertain to them. You may already have some of this information. For example, below is the civil marriage index for John Williamson and Sarah Marshall. The index shows they were married in Killyman, Tyrone, Ireland, on 26 September 1856. John's father's is listed as Thomas Williamson, while Sarah's father is Thomas Marshall. The index is from the Latter Day Saints (LDS) website link at: https://www.familysearch.org/#form=advanced-records Please see below: John Williamson, "Ireland, Marriages, 1619-1898" groom's name: John Williamson groom's birth date: groom's birthplace: groom's age: bride's name: Sarah Marshall bride's birth date: bride's birthplace: bride's age: marriage date: 26 Sep 1856 marriage place: Killyman, Tyr, Ireland groom's father's name: Thomas Williamson groom's mother's name: bride's father's name: Thomas Marshall bride's mother's name: groom's marital status: Single groom's previous wife's name: bride's marital status: Single bride's previous husband's name: indexing project (batch) number: M70214-5 system origin: Ireland-EASy reference number: 495 source film number: 101376 = Marriage records, 1845-1870, in the General Registry Office of Ireland Marriages v. 5 1856 Collection: John Williamson, "Ireland, Marriages, 1619-1898" https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGC2-TVP Citing this Record "Ireland, Marriages, 1619-1898," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGC2-TVP : accessed 14 Dec 2012), John Williamson and Sarah Marshall, 26 Sep 1856; citing reference 495, FHL microfilm 101376. ____ The marriage record can be found in LDS microfilm number 101376. You can order the film from your nearest Family History Center. Or, if you don't want to order the microfilm, you can order a copy of the marriage record from the General Register Office (GRO) in Roscommon Town, County Roscommon. For information about ordering civil birth, marriage, and death records, and the fees involved, go to the GRO website at: http://www.groireland.ie/ The marriage of John and Sarah would have been a Protestant marriage. The government in Ireland commenced with civil registration in 1845 when only Protestant marriages were recorded. Civil registration of births, marriages, and deaths for all religious denominations didn't begin in Ireland until the year 1864. With this in mind, I wanted to see if I could uncover a church marriage for John Williamson and Sarah Marshall. I didn't find a church marriage for them but did uncover, once again, their civil marriage index at the Irish Family History Foundation (IFHF) website for County Tyrone, showing their marriage was recorded in the Dungannon Registration District (RD) in 1856. The names of the fathers of the groom and bride aren't automatically provided for you at this site, as they were in LDS index. But, the search engine accepted Thomas Williamson as the name of John's father: 1 match for the search criteria: Williamson (plus variants) John 1856 Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) Record Type: Marriage Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Williamson First Name: John Spouse's Surname: Marshall Spouse's First Name: Sarah Father's Surname: Williamson Father's First Name: Thomas Mother's Surname: Mother's First Name: Year: 1856 Parish/District: Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) ____ With Sarah Marshall as the primary partner in the IFHF marriage index, I wanted to see if the search engine accepted Thomas as the first name of her father, which it did: 1 match for the search criteria: Marshall (plus variants) Sarah 1856 Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) Record Type: Marriage Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Marshall First Name: Sarah Spouse's Surname: Williamson Spouse's First Name: John Father's Surname: Marshall Father's First Name: Thomas Mother's Surname: Mother's First Name: Year: 1856 Parish/District: Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) ____ The IFHF homepage can be found at: http://www.rootsireland.ie/ Before accessing indexes at the IFHF you'll first have to register. Registration is free. You'll also be able to access the indexes that I did for free, but you will be charged to obtain the marriage transcription for John Williamson and Sarah Marshall. You'll need to purchase credits with a credit card to obtain the marriage transcription, as well as the other transcriptions you'll see later on. The IFHF website will have more information about purchasing credits for baptism, as well as birth, marriage, and death or burial transcriptions. Next I looked for civil birth indexes and church baptism indexes for any children of John Williamson and Sarah Marshall. I uncovered civil birth indexes for five of their children at both the LDS and Ancestry.com websites. These children and their dates of birth are: Susan (1864); John (1866); John (1870); Female child (1874); and a Male child (1876). The two births for John indicate the first-born John had died young. The indexes for the female child and male child probably mean that when their individual births were registered, the parents hadn't chosen names for them. The indexes for Susan, both children named John, and the female child show the births as well as the baptisms took place in Coalisland, Tyrone. The index for the male child born in 1876 just lists Tyrone as the birthplace, but this index also gives the name of the birthplace for his father John. The name of John's birthplace is "Intgonis." I'll have more information about this place a little later. Each index is accompanied by an LDS microfilm number. These microfilms contain copies of the original birth records of the Williamson children. You can order the films from the Family History Center. If you don't want to order the LDS microfilms, you can order the Williamson birth records from the GRO in Roscommon Town, County Roscommon. There won't be civil birth records for children born in Ireland before 1864. The birth indexes from Ancestry.com are below: Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 Name: Susan Williamson Gender: Female Birth Date: 10 Apr 1864 Birth Place: Coalisland, Tyrone, Ireland Father's Name: John Williamson Mother's Name: Sarah Marshal FHL Film Number: 101085 = Quarterly returns of births in Ireland, 1864-1955: Births v. 6 1864. Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 [database on-line]. Provo, UT: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911. Index. Salt Lake City, Utah: Family Search. ____ Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 Name: John Williamson Gender: Male Birth Date: 23 May 1866 Birth Place: Coalisland, Tyr, Ireland Baptism Place: Coalisland, Tyr, Ireland Father's Name: John Williamson Mother's Name: Sarah Marshall FHL Film Number: 101125 = Quarterly returns of births in Ireland, 1864-1955: Births v. 6 1866. Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 [database on-line]. Provo, UT: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911. Index. Salt Lake City, Utah: Family Search. ____ Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 Name: John Williamson Gender: Male Birth Date: 30 Apr 1870 Birth Place: Coalisland, Tyr, Ireland Baptism Place: Coalisland, Tyr, Ireland Father's Name: John Williamson Mother's Name: Sarah Marshal FHL Film Number: 101205 = Quarterly returns of births in Ireland, 1864-1955: Births v. 6 1870. Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 [database on-line]. Provo, UT: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911. Index. Salt Lake City, Utah: Family Search. ____ Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 Name: Williamson Gender: Female Birth Date: 7 Jul 1874 Birth Place: Coalisland, Tyr, Ireland Baptism Place: Coalisland, Tyr, Ireland Father's Name: John Williamson Mother's Name: Sarah Marshall FHL Film Number: 255907 = Quarterly returns of births in Ireland, 1864-1955: Births v. 11-1 to 11-2 1874 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 [database on-line]. Provo, UT: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911. Index. Salt Lake City, Utah: Family Search. ____ Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 Name: Williamson Gender: Male Birth Date: 27 Apr 1876 Birth Place: Tyrone, Ireland Father's Name: John Williamson Father's Birth Place: Intgonis Mother's Name: Sarah Williamson Marshall FHL Film Number: 255951 = Quarterly returns of births in Ireland, 1864-1955: Births v. 6-1 to 6-2 1876. Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 [database on-line]. Provo, UT: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911. Index. Salt Lake City, Utah: Family Search. ____ I couldn't find a place called "Ingonis," in County Tyrone. I believe that this place name was either too difficult to read in a copy of the original 1876 birth record for the male child, or was not transcribed properly, as I did find a very small townland of 363 acres in Tyrone called Gortgonis, located in the civil parish of Tullyniskan. This information was found at the IreAtlas, which is part of the Leitrim Roscommon website. The IreAtlas can be found at: http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/index.shtml The entry from the IreAtlas follows: Townland: Gortgonis AKA: (Also Known As): Acres: 363 County: Tyrone Barony: Dungannon Middle Civil Parish: Tullyniskan PLU: Dungannon Province: Ulster ____ Next I wanted to see if I could find any baptism indexes for children of John and Susan before 1864. I figured that having being married in 1856, they would have had children between the time they married and the year 1864, when civil registration of births commenced in Ireland. I was disappointed not to uncover any baptisms for Williamson children before 1864. But I did find the baptism indexes for the children named in the birth indexes above: Susan (1864); John (1866); John (1870); Female child (1874); and a Male child (1876). I also found the baptism for a Thomas in 1868, and a child not named, baptized in 1872. I was perplexed by these baptisms however, as the indexes from the IFHF for County Tyrone, show all the children were christened in the Coalisland Catholic Church, whereas their parents John and Susan, would have been married in a Protestant church. Emma, have you ever come across information showing that John Williamson and Susan Marshall had converted from a Protestant denomination, to Roman Catholic? Or was John a Catholic and Sarah Pprotestant? One of the advantages of Catholic baptism records, is that they give the names of the godparents or sponsors of the children. The godparents were often relatives or friends of the father and mother. You'll have to order transcriptions of the baptisms to find out who the godparents were. The baptism indexes for the seven Williamson children are below: 1 match for the search criteria: Williamson (plus variants) Susan 1864 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Williamson First Name: Susan Father's Surname: Williamson Father's First Name: John Mother's Surname: Marshall Mother's First Name: Sarah Year: 1864 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Williamson (plus variants) John 1866 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Williamson First Name: John Father's Surname: Williamson Father's First Name: John Mother's Surname: Marshall Mother's First Name: Sarah Year: 1866 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Williamson (plus variants) Thomas 1868 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Williamson First Name: Thomas Father's Surname: Williamson Father's First Name: John Mother's Surname: Marshall Mother's First Name: Sarah Year: 1868 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Williamson (plus variants) John 1870 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Williamson First Name: John Father's Surname: Williamson Father's First Name: John Mother's Surname: Marshall Mother's First Name: Sarah Year: 1870 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Williamson (plus variants) Unknown 1872 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Williamson First Name: Unknown Father's Surname: Williamson Father's First Name: John Mother's Surname: Marshall Mother's First Name: Sarah Year: 1872 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Williamson (plus variants) Unknown 1874 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Williamson First Name: Unknown Father's Surname: Williamson Father's First Name: John Mother's Surname: Marshall Mother's First Name: Sarah Year: 1874 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Williamson (plus variants) Unknown 1876 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Williamson First Name: Unknown Father's Surname: Williamson Father's First Name: John Mother's Surname: Marshall Mother's First Name: Sarah Year: 1876 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ The Roman Catholic Church in Coalisland is called St. Mary and St. Joseph. To learn more and see a photo of the church, go to the GenUKI website link at: http://www.genuki.eu/TYR/Church136.htm#History The information found at the GenUKI website for St. Mary and St. Joseph's Catholic Church shows the church is located on Brackaville Road, Brackaville, Coalisland. The church was built in 1857 and is still open. The church also has a graveyard. If you visit Coalisland this year, you may want to include the church on your itinerary to see where the Williamson children were baptized. If you do plan to visit the church, I recommend contacting the parish priest or the parish secretary a few weeks before you arrive, so that you can let them know you are visiting and to see if you set up an appointment with the parish priest. If you talk to the parish priest, explain that your Williamson and Marshall were married in a Protestant church, but that you have records showing their children were baptized in St. Mary and St. Joseph's. You can then ask the priest what would be the circumstances where a Protestant couple would have their children baptized in a Catholic Church, if they ha! dn't converted beforehand. Indications are that John and Sarah did not convert to Roman Catholicism, as I believe I found them and their son Thomas in the 1901 census, in an address of House 30, Derry, Tullyniskane, Tyrone. John's birthplace of Gortgonis, as shown earlier, was also located in the civil parish of Tullniskan. The census shows that 60 year old John Williamson as well as his 58 year old wife Sarah, and their 30 year old son Thomas, all belonged to the Church of Ireland. Thomas's occupation is listed as "Carter," while Thomas worked as a labourer. Ages of people in these census returns are not always accurate. For instance, indexes earlier had shown that Thomas Williamson was born in 1868, which would have made him 32-33 years old, rather than 30 years old in 1901. The 1901 census transcription below is from the National Archives of Ireland website link at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ 1901 Census of Ireland Residents of a house 30 in Derry (Tullyniskane, Tyrone) Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Williamson John 60 Male Head of Family Church of Ireland Co Tyrone Carter Cannot read English Married Williamson Sarah 58 Female Wife Church of Ireland Co Tyrone Cannot read English Married Williamson Thomas 30 Male Son Church of Ireland Co Tyrone Labourer Read and write English Not Married ____ You can access a copy of the original 1901 census for the Williamson family at the National Archives link at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001200095/ I didn't find John or Sarah Williamson in the 1911 census of Ireland, but found what I believe to be their son Thomas in that enumeration. The 1911 census shows that 40 year old Thomas is married to 30 year old Elizabeth. Thomas's occupation is farmer. He and his family are shown to belong to the Church of Ireland. The census also shows that Thomas can read and read but that Elizabeth cannot read. The census also shows that Thomas and Elizabeth have been married for 10 years as of 1911, and that in that time they had five children, with all five still alive and residing in the household with them in an address of House 43, Derry, Tullyniskane, Tyrone. The children in the household are 8 year old Thomas, 7 year old Mary, 5 year old Elizabeth, 3 year old Sarah, and 1 month old Isabella. The census transcription below is from the National Archives of Ireland: 1911 Census of Ireland Residents of a house 43 in Derry (Tullyniskane, Tyrone) Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living Williamson Thomas 40 Male Head of Family Church of Ireland Tyrone Farmer Read and write Married Williamson Elizabeth 30 Female Wife Church of Ireland Tyrone Cannot read Married 10 5 5 Williamson Thomas 8 Male Son Church of Ireland Tyrone Scholar Cannot read Single Williamson Mary 7 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Tyrone Scholar Cannot read Single Williamson Elizabeth 5 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Tyrone Scholar Cannot read Single Williamson Sarah 3 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Tyrone Cannot read Single Williamson Isabella 1 month Female Daughter Church of Ireland Tyrone Cannot read Single ____ A copy of the original 1911 census for the family of Thomas and Elizabeth Williamson can be found at the National Archives link at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003445886/ The 1911 census also shows that living in House 43, Derry, Tullyniskane, is the family of 40 year William Marhsall and his 38 year old wife Maggie, plus three of their children. William Marshall may have been related to Thomas Williamson through Thomas's mother, Sarah Marshall. The Marshall family are listed as belonging to the Irish Church, meaning the Church of Ireland: 1911 Census of Ireland Residents of a house 42 in Derry (Tullyniskane, Tyrone) Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living Marshall William 40 Male Head of Family Irish Church County Tyrone Spade Finisher Read and write Married Marshall Maggie 38 Female Wife Irish Church Co Tyrone Read and write Married 7 3 3 Marshall Thomas 7 Male Son Irish Church Co Tyrone Scholar Cannot read Single Marshall Robert 5 Male Son Irish Church Co Tyrone Scholar Cannot read Single Marshall Cecil 2 Male Son Irish Church ____ The Marshall family can be found in a copy of the original 1911 census at the National Archives link at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003445884/ I then wanted to see see if I could find the marriage index for Thomas Williamson and Elizabeth. To do this I went to Ancestry.com, where I located the following marriage indexes showing that a Mary Ann Holmes, Robert James Proctor, Elizabeth Wade, and Thomas Williamson, were married in the December quarter of 1901. Their marriage was recorded in the Dungannon Registration District. People in the index are listed alphabetically by their last names. Only one Elizabeth is in the index, and so Thomas must have married Elizabeth Wade: Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958 Name Registration Date Registration district Mary Ann Holmes Oct-Nov-Dec 1901 Dungannon Robert James Proctor Oct-Nov-Dec 1901 Dungannon Elizabeth Wade Oct-Nov-Dec 1901 Dungannon Thomas Williamson Oct-Nov-Dec 1901 Dungannon Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: "Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958," Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. General Register Office. "Quarterly Returns of Births in Ireland with Index to Births." Belfast, Ireland. ____ I then went back to the IFHF website for County Tyrone to see if the search engine accepted Elizabeth Wade as Thomas Williamson's wife, with the following results: 1 match for the search criteria: Williamson (plus variants) Thomas 1901 Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) Record Type: Marriage Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Williamson First Name: Thomas Spouse's Surname: Wade Spouse's First Name: Elizabeth Father's Surname: Williamson Father's First Name: John Mother's Surname: Mother's First Name: Year: 1901 Parish/District: Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) ____ As you can see the search engine also accepted John Williamson as Thomas 's father. Next, with Elizabeth Wade as the primary partner in the marriage index, I took a few guesses as to what her father's first name was. The search engine accepted John: 1 match for the search criteria: Wade (plus variants) Elizabeth 1901 Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) Record Type: Marriage Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Wade First Name: Elizabeth Spouse's Surname: Williamson Spouse's First Name: Thomas Father's Surname: Wade Father's First Name: John Mother's Surname: Mother's First Name: Year: 1901 Parish/District: Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) ____ Also, because the Proctors are in your genealogy, I found the IFHF marriage index for Robert James Proctor and Mary Ann Holmes. The IFHF search engine accepted the name Alexander for Robert James's father, while the search engine accepted John Holmes as Mary's father: 1 match for the search criteria: Proctor (plus variants) Robert James 1901 Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) Record Type: Marriage Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Proctor First Name: Robert James Spouse's Surname: Holmes Spouse's First Name: Mary Ann Father's Surname: Proctor Father's First Name: Alexander Mother's Surname: Mother's First Name: Year: 1901 Parish/District: Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Holmes (plus variants) Mary Ann 1901 Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) Record Type: Marriage Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Holmes First Name: Mary Ann Spouse's Surname: Proctor Spouse's First Name: Robert James Father's Surname: Holmes Father's First Name: John Mother's Surname: Mother's First Name: Year: 1901 Parish/District: Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) ____ Back to the Williamson family, with the 1911 census as a guide I looked for the birth and baptism indexes for Thomas and Elizabeth's children Thomas, Mary, Elizabeth, Sarah, and Isabella. I found the birth indexes for all five children, but also discovered that Sarah was born before Elizabeth. If you go back to the 1911 census you'll see that Elizabeth is listed as being 5 years old, while Sarah is 3 years old. The birth indexes on the other hand show that Sarah was born in 1905 and Elizabeth in 1907. The birth indexes that follow are from Ancestry.com. Each index is accompanied by an LDS microfilm number. But, unlike the Williamson birth indexes from Ancestry.com seen earlier, the LDS film numbers in the indexes that follow, according to the Family History Library Catalog, are in themselves indexes, and will not contain copies of the original birth certs. For these births order the records from the GRO: Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 Name: Thomas Williamson Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1902 Registration district: Dungannon Birth Country: Ireland Volume: 1 Page: 525 FHL Film Number: 101069 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: "Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958," Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. General Register Office. "Quarterly Returns of Births in Ireland with Index to Births." Belfast, Ireland. ____ Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 Name: Mary Williamson Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1904 Registration district: Dungannon Birth Country: Ireland Volume: 1 Page: 560 FHL Film Number: 101070 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: "Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958," Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. General Register Office. "Quarterly Returns of Births in Ireland with Index to Births." Belfast, Ireland. ____ Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 Name: Sarah Williamson Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1905 Registration district: Dungannon Birth Country: Ireland Volume: 1 Page: 541 FHL Film Number: 101070 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: "Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958," Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. General Register Office. "Quarterly Returns of Births in Ireland with Index to Births." Belfast, Ireland. ____ Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 Name: Elizabeth Williamson Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1907 Registration district: Dungannon Birth Country: Ireland Volume: 1 Page: 565 FHL Film Number: 101071 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: "Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958," Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. General Register Office. "Quarterly Returns of Births in Ireland with Index to Births." Belfast, Ireland. ____ Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 Name: Isabella Williamson Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1911 Registration district: Dungannon Birth Country: Ireland Volume: 1 Page: 557 FHL Film Number: 101074 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: "Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958," Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. General Register Office. "Quarterly Returns of Births in Ireland with Index to Births." Belfast, Ireland. ____ Next I found the baptism indexes for the children listed in the birth indexes above. The baptisms are for Thomas (1902); Mary (1904); Sarah (1905); Elizabeth (1907); and Isabella (1911). I also found the baptism indexes for three children born after the 1911 census. These are for William John (1914); Norah (1916); and Maggie (1918). Even though the 1911 census had noted that Thomas, Elizabeth, and their children belonged to the Church of Ireland, the baptisms for all their children in the indexes that follow, show they were christened in the Coalisland Roman Catholic Church: 1 match for the search criteria: Williamson (plus variants) Thomas 1902 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Williamson First Name: Thomas Father's Surname: Williamson Father's First Name: Thomas Mother's Surname: Wade Mother's First Name: Elizabeth Year: 1902 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Williamson (plus variants) Mary 1904 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Williamson First Name: Mary Father's Surname: Williamson Father's First Name: Thomas Mother's Surname: Wade Mother's First Name: Elizabeth Year: 1904 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Williamson (plus variants) Sarah 1905 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Williamson First Name: Sarah Father's Surname: Williamson Father's First Name: Thomas Mother's Surname: Wade Mother's First Name: Elizabeth Year: 1905 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Williamson (plus variants) Elizabeth 1907 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Williamson First Name: Elizabeth Father's Surname: Williamson Father's First Name: Thomas Mother's Surname: Wade Mother's First Name: Elizabeth Year: 1907 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Williamson (plus variants) Isabella 1911 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Williamson First Name: Isabella Father's Surname: Williamson Father's First Name: Thomas Mother's Surname: Wade Mother's First Name: Elizabeth Year: 1911 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Williamson (plus variants) William John 1914 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Williamson First Name: William John Father's Surname: Williamson Father's First Name: Thomas Mother's Surname: Wade Mother's First Name: Elizabeth Year: 1914 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Williamson (plus variants) Norah 1916 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Williamson First Name: Norah Father's Surname: Williamson Father's First Name: Thomas Mother's Surname: Wade Mother's First Name: Elizabeth Year: 1916 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Williamson (plus variants) Maggie 1918 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Williamson First Name: Maggie Father's Surname: Williamson Father's First Name: Thomas Mother's Surname: Wade Mother's First Name: Elizabeth Year: 1918 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ I next went back to Ancestry.com to see if I could locate the civil birth indexes for William John, Norah, and Maggie Williamson. I found the birth indexes for William John and Norah Williamson, but not for Maggie. The births were recorded in the Dungannon Registration District: Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 Name: William John Williamson Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1914 Registration district: Dungannon Birth Country: Ireland Volume: 1 Page: 568 FHL Film Number: 101075 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: "Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958," Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. General Register Office. "Quarterly Returns of Births in Ireland with Index to Births." Belfast, Ireland. ____ Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 Name: Norah Williamson Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1916 Registration district: Dungannon Birth Country: Ireland Volume: 1 Page: 526 FHL Film Number: 101076 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: "Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958," Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. General Register Office. "Quarterly Returns of Births in Ireland with Index to Births." Belfast, Ireland. ____ Earlier I had mentioned that I didn't find Thomas Williamson's parents, John and Sarah in the 1911 census. It's possible I may have missed them in the census, or they may have died between 1901 and 1911. I looked for their death indexes at Ancestry.com. First, the results for John Williamson. I found three death indexes, one of which may pertain to Thomas's father. All three deaths were recorded in Dungannon. One index shows the death of a John Williamson in 1904. He was was 90 years old when he died. The second and third indexes shows the death of a John Williamson in 1905. In one index John was 75 when he died, while in the other index he was 53. The 1911 census had shown that John was 60 years old, which means that none of the three death indexes tally with his age of 60 in the 1911 census. But again, his age in the 1911 census may have been inaccurate, or it's possible his age at death in the Ancestry.com indexes, is inaccurate. The indexes follow: Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958 Name Death Age Date of Registration Registration district John Williamson 90 Jan-Feb-Mar 1904 Dungannon John Williamson 75 Jan-Feb-Mar 1905 Dungannon John Williamson 53 Jul-Aug-Sep 1905 Dungannon Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: "Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958," Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. General Register Office. "Quarterly Returns of Births in Ireland with Index to Births." Belfast, Ireland. ____ Next I found two death indexes for Sarah Williamsons recorded in Dungannon between 1901 and 1911. The first index shows the death of a Sarah Williamson in 1903 at the age of 45, while the second index shows the death of a Sarah Williamson in 1906 at the age of 60. The 1901 census had shown that Sarah was 58. The ages of the Sarah Williamsons in the death index and the age of Sarah Williamson in the 1901 census, do not add up chronologically. The 1906 death index may pertain to Thomas's mother, but that's just speculation: Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958 Name Death Age Date of Registration Registration district Sarah Williamson 45 Apr-May-Jun 1903 Dungannon Sarah Williamson 60 Jan-Feb-Mar 1906 Dungannon Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: "Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958," Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. General Register Office. "Quarterly Returns of Births in Ireland with Index to Births." Belfast, Ireland. ____ I recommend holding off spending money on death certs for John and Sarah Williamson, as you may uncover more information in the future about when they died. PROCTOR AND WILLIAMSON In going through your postings to the Ancestry.com message board for County Tyrone, I noticed a connection between the Proctor and Williamson families. You already have information concerning Joseph Proctor and Susan Williamson, but I also found information about them and their children, some of which you may or may not have. For example, below is the 1901 census for Joseph and Susan Proctor and their eight children, including your Sarah Jane, who is listed as 3 year old S Jane in the census. This enumerations shows the family were living in Gortgonis, Tullyniskane, Tyrone. It also shows that Joseph's occupation was "Cloth Beether." As you will see in a copy of the original census later, Joseph's occupation should actually be Cloth Beetler, rather than Cloth Beether. More on this later. The 1901 census also shows the Proctor family belonged to the Church of Ireland. All members of the Proctor family in the 1901 census were born in County Tyrone: 1901 Census of Ireland Residents of a house 13 in Gortgonis (Tullyniskane, Tyrone) Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Proctor Joseph 36 Male Head of Family Church of Ireland Ireland, Co Tyrone Cloth Beether Read only Married Proctor Susan 34 Female Wife Church of Ireland Ireland, Co Tyrone House Keeper Read only Married Proctor W John 14 Male Son Church of Ireland Ireland, Co Tyrone Factory Worker Read write Not Married Proctor Joseph 12 Male Son Church of Ireland Ireland, Co Tyrone Factory Worker Read write Not Married Proctor Samuel 11 Male Son Church of Ireland Ireland, Co Tyrone School Boy Read write Not Married Proctor Alexander 9 Male Son Church of Ireland Ireland, Co Tyrone School Boy Read write Not Married Proctor Thomas 7 Male Son Church of Ireland Ireland, Co Tyrone School Boy Read write Not Married Proctor Sharlott 5 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Ireland, Co Tyrone School Girl Read Proctor S Jane 3 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Ireland, Co Tyrone School Girl Cannot read Proctor Annie 1 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Ireland, Co Tyrone ____ A copy of the original 1901 census for the Proctor family can be found in the National Archives of Ireland link at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001200375/ When you access the copy of the census, enlarge it, and you'll see that Joseph's occupation is Cloth Beetler. I found several definitions for "beetle," including having to do with the cloth industry at: http://thinkexist.com/dictionary/meaning/beetle/ The definitions follow: Beetle Meaning and Definition 1. (v. t.) To beat with a heavy mallet. 2. (v. t.) Any insect of the order Coleoptera, having four wings, the outer pair being stiff cases for covering the others when they are folded up. See Coleoptera. 3. (v. t.) To finish by subjecting to a hammering process in a beetle or beetling machine; as, to beetle cotton goods. 4. (v. t.) A heavy mallet, used to drive wedges, beat pavements, etc. 5. (v. t.) A machine in which fabrics are subjected to a hammering process while passing over rollers, as in cotton mills; -- called also beetling machine. 6. (v. i.) To extend over and beyond the base or support; to overhang; to jut. ____ Next are the individual marriage indexes from the IFHF showing that Joseph Proctor and Susan Williamson's marriage was recorded in the Dungannon Registration District in 1885. The index with Joseph as the primary partner shows his father was John Proctor, while the index for Susan shows that her father was John Williamson. Thus I think Susan would have been the daughter of John Williamson and Sarah Marshall: 1 match for the search criteria: Proctor (plus variants) Joseph 1885 Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) Record Type: Marriage Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Proctor First Name: Joseph Spouse's Surname: Williamson Spouse's First Name: Susan Father's Surname: Proctor Father's First Name: John Mother's Surname: Mother's First Name: Year: 1885 Parish/District: Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) AND 1 match for the search criteria: Williamson (plus variants) Susan 1885 Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) Record Type: Marriage Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Williamson First Name: Susan Spouse's Surname: Proctor Spouse's First Name: Joseph Father's Surname: Williamson Father's First Name: John Mother's Surname: Mother's First Name: Year: 1885 Parish/District: Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) ____ I then found the baptism indexes for all eight Proctor children enumerated in the 1901 census, plus the baptism index for an un-named child who isn't in the 1901 census. These children and their years of birth/baptism are: William John (1886); Joseph (1888); Samuel (1890); Alexander (1891); Thomas (1893); Charlotte (1895); Sarah (1897); Annie (1899) and Unknown Proctor (1899). It appears that Annie and the child un-named were born in 1899. This child may have been a twin, but that's just a guess. All of the children were baptized in the Coalisland Catholic Church. Yet the 1901 census states the family belonged to the Church of Ireland: 1 match for the search criteria: Proctor (plus variants) William John 1886 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Proctor First Name: William John Father's Surname: Proctor Father's First Name: Joseph Mother's Surname: Williamson Mother's First Name: Susan Year: 1886 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Proctor (plus variants) Joseph 1888 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Proctor First Name: Joseph Father's Surname: Proctor Father's First Name: Joseph Mother's Surname: Williamson Mother's First Name: Susan Year: 1888 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Proctor (plus variants) Samuel 1890 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Proctor First Name: Samuel Father's Surname: Proctor Father's First Name: Joseph Mother's Surname: Williamson Mother's First Name: Susan Year: 1890 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Proctor (plus variants) Alexander 1891 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Proctor First Name: Alexander Father's Surname: Proctor Father's First Name: Joseph Mother's Surname: Williamson Mother's First Name: Susan Year: 1891 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Proctor (plus variants) Thomas 1893 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Proctor First Name: Thomas Father's Surname: Proctor Father's First Name: Joseph Mother's Surname: Williamson Mother's First Name: Susan Year: 1893 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Proctor (plus variants) Charlotte 1895 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Proctor First Name: Charlotte Father's Surname: Proctor Father's First Name: Joseph Mother's Surname: Williamson Mother's First Name: Susan Year: 1895 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Proctor (plus variants) Sarah 1897 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Proctor First Name: Sarah Father's Surname: Proctor Father's First Name: Joseph Mother's Surname: Williamson Mother's First Name: Susan Year: 1897 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Proctor (plus variants) Annie 1899 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Proctor First Name: Annie Father's Surname: Proctor Father's First Name: Joseph Mother's Surname: Williamson Mother's First Name: Susan Year: 1899 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) AND Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Proctor First Name: Unknown Father's Surname: Proctor Father's First Name: Joseph Mother's Surname: Williamson Mother's First Name: Susan Year: 1899 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ Below are the civil birth indexes for all the Proctor children in the 1901 census and as found in the Dungannon baptism indexes from the IFHF for County Tyrone above. There are two birth indexes for 1899, one for Annie and one noted as a "Female" Proctor. Both births were recorded in the Dungannon Registration District for the March quarter of 1899. Indications are that Annie and her un-named sister were twins. The birth certs of the Proctor children can be ordered from the GRO in Roscommon Town: Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 Name: William John Proctor Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1886 Registration district: Dungannon Birth Country: Ireland Volume: 1 Page: 492 FHL Film Number: 101061 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: "Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958," Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. General Register Office. "Quarterly Returns of Births in Ireland with Index to Births." Belfast, Ireland. ____ Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 Name: Joseph Proctor Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1888 Registration district: Dungannon Birth Country: Ireland Volume: 1 Page: 495 FHL Film Number: 101062 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: "Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958," Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. General Register Office. "Quarterly Returns of Births in Ireland with Index to Births." Belfast, Ireland. ____ Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 Name: Samuel Proctor Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1890 Registration district: Dungannon Birth Country: Ireland Volume: 1 Page: 631 FHL Film Number: 101063 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: "Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958," Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. General Register Office. "Quarterly Returns of Births in Ireland with Index to Births." Belfast, Ireland. ____ Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 Name: Alexander Proctor Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1891 Registration district: Dungannon Birth Country: Ireland Volume: 1 Page: 520 FHL Film Number: 101063 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: "Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958," Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. General Register Office. "Quarterly Returns of Births in Ireland with Index to Births." Belfast, Ireland. ____ Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 Name: Thomas Proctor Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1893 Registration district: Dungannon Birth Country: Ireland Volume: 1 Page: 569 FHL Film Number: 101064 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: "Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958," Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. General Register Office. "Quarterly Returns of Births in Ireland with Index to Births." Belfast, Ireland. ____ Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 Name: Charlotte Proctor Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1895 Registration district: Dungannon Birth Country: Ireland Volume: 1 Page: 551 FHL Film Number: 101065 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: "Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958," Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. General Register Office. "Quarterly Returns of Births in Ireland with Index to Births." Belfast, Ireland. ____ Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 Name: Sarah Proctor Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1897 Registration district: Dungannon Birth Country: Ireland Volume: 1 Page: 576 FHL Film Number: 101066 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: "Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958," Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. General Register Office. "Quarterly Returns of Births in Ireland with Index to Births." Belfast, Ireland. ____ Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 Name: Annie Proctor Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1899 Registration district: Dungarvan Birth Country: Ireland FHL Film Number: 101068 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: "Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958," Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. General Register Office. "Quarterly Returns of Births in Ireland with Index to Births." Belfast, Ireland. AND Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 Name: Female Proctor Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1899 Registration district: Dungannon Birth Country: Ireland Volume: 1 Page: 562 FHL Film Number: 101067 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Original data: "Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958," Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. General Register Office. "Quarterly Returns of Births in Ireland with Index to Births." Belfast, Ireland. ____ Next, the 1911 census shows that Joseph and Susan Proctor and seven of their children are still living in Gortgonis, Tullyniskane, County Tyrone. This enumeration was transcribed properly in that it gives Joseph's occupation as "Beetler." The census also shows that Joseph and Susan have been married for 27 years and in that time had 10 children, with 8 of those children still alive. Your Sarah Jane Proctor is listed as a 12 year old scholar. The oldest child in the household is 24 year old Samuel, while the youngest is 10 year old Annie. The census is from the National Archives of Ireland: 1911 Census of Ireland Residents of a house 30 in Gortgonis (Tullyniskane, Tyrone) Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living Proctor Joseph 47 Male Head of Family Church of Ireland Co Tyrone in Ireland Beetler Read and write All English Married 27 10 8 Proctor Susan 45 Female Wife Church of Ireland Co Tyrone Read and write Married 27 10 8 Proctor William John 24 Male Son Church of Ireland Co Tyrone Porter Read and write Single Proctor Samuel 20 Male Son Church of Ireland Co Tyrone Porter Read and write Single Proctor Alexander 18 Male Son Church of Ireland Co Tyrone Soldier Read and write Single Proctor Thomas 16 Male Son Church of Ireland Co Tyrone Farm Labourer Read and write Single Proctor Charlotte 14 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Co Tyrone Winner Read and write Single Proctor Sarah Jane 12 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Co Tyrone Scholar Read and write Single Proctor Annie 10 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Co Tyrone Scholar Read and write Single ____ A copy of the original 1911 census for the Proctor family can be found at the National Archives link at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003446255/ Below is the IFHF marriage index for Thomas Wade and Sarah Jane Proctor. Their marriage was recorded in the Dungannon Registration District in 1917. The index states the name of Thomas Wade's father is unknown: 1 match for the search criteria: Wade (plus variants) Tho 1917 Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) Record Type: Marriage Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Wade First Name: Thomas Spouse's Surname: Proctor Spouse's First Name: Sarah Jane Father's Surname: Unknown Father's First Name: Unknown Mother's Surname: Mother's First Name: Year: 1917 Parish/District: Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) ____ With Sarah Jane Wade as the primary partner the IFHF search engine accepted Joseph Proctor as her father: 1 match for the search criteria: Proctor (plus variants) Sarah Jane 1917 Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) Record Type: Marriage Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Proctor First Name: Sarah Jane Spouse's Surname: Wade Spouse's First Name: Thomas Father's Surname: Proctor Father's First Name: Joseph Mother's Surname: Mother's First Name: Year: 1917 Parish/District: Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) ____ I then found two baptism indexes at the IFHF for children of Thomas Wade and Sarah Jane Proctor. These children are Alexander (1918); and Charles (1920). Thomas and Sarah Jane probably had more children but records at the IFHF do not go much past the year 1920: 1 match for the search criteria: Wade (plus variants) Alexander 1918 Parish: COALISLAND (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Wade First Name: Alexander Father's Surname: Wade Father's First Name: Thomas Mother's Surname: Proctor Mother's First Name: Sarah Jane Year: 1918 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Wade (plus variants) Charles 1920 Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Wade First Name: Charles Father's Surname: Wade Father's First Name: Thomas Mother's Surname: Proctor Mother's First Name: Sarah Jane Year: 1920 Parish/District: COALISLAND (RC) ____ I then wanted to see if I could determine who Thomas Wade's parents were. One of the placenames you had listed for your ancestors in Tyrone in your messages to Ancestry.com, was Congo. With this information I found what may be Thomas and his family in the 1901 and 1911 census enumerations. Both enumerations show the family residing in Congo, Donaghmore, County Tyrone. First the 1911 census, which shows that 18 year old stone mason ThomasWade is living in the household of his parents, 60 year old Thomas and 51 year old Mary Wade, in House 7, Congo. Thomas Wade the father is shown to be a farmer who cannot read, while his wife Mary can read and write. The census also shows that Thomas and Mary were married for 25 years as of 1911, and in that time had 8 children, with all 8 children still alive. Including the young Thomas, there are 4 children in the household with Thomas listed as the oldest. The other children are 15 year old Mary; 12 year old Joe; and 8 year old Robert. The census transcription lists the family religious affiliation as "Pesbyterian:" 1911 Census of Ireland Residents of a house 7 in Congo (Donaghmore, Tyrone) Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living Wade Thomas 60 Male Head of Family Pesbyterian Church Co Tyrone Farmer Cannot read Married 8 Wade Mary 51 Female Wife Pesbyterian Co Tyrone Read a write Married 25 8 8 Wade Thomas 18 Male Son Pesbyterian Co Tyrone Stone Mason Read a write Single Wade Mary 15 Female Daughter Pesbyterian Co Tyrone Read a write Single Wade Joe 12 Male Son Pesbyterian Co Tyrone Scholar Read a write Single Wade Robert 8 Male Son Pesbyterian Co Tyrone Scholar Read a write Single ____ A copy of the original 1911 census for the Wade family can be found at the National Archives link at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003450936/ The 1901 census also shows the Wade family living in Congo. In this enumeration the father Thomas is listed as being 60 years old. He was also listed as being 60 years old in the 1911 census, which shows you can't always trust these enumerations for accuracy. Thomas's wife Mary is 45 years old. Their children include 13 year old Eliza; 12 year old Charles; 10 year old John; 8 year old Thomas; 6 year old Mary Ann; 5 year old Margaret; and 3 year old Joseph. All the family members were born in Tyrone and all are Presbyterian: 1901 Census of Ireland Residents of a house 4 in Congo (Donaghmore, Tyrone) Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Wade Thomas 60 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Co Tyrone Farmer Cannot read Married Wade Mary 45 Female Wife Presbyterian Co Tyrone Read and write Married Wade Eliza 13 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Tyrone Scholar Read and write Not Married Wade Charles 12 Male Son Presbyterian Co Tyrone Scholar Read and write Not Married Wade John 10 Male Son Presbyterian Co Tyrone Scholar Read and write Not Married Wade Thos 8 Male Son Presbyterian Co Tyrone Scholar Read and write Not Married Wade Mary Ann 6 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Tyrone Scholar Read and write Not Married Wade Margt 5 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Tyrone Cannot read Not Married Wade Joseph 3 Male Son Presbyterian Co Tyrone Cannot read Not Married ____ A copy of the original 1901 census for the Wade family can be found at the National Archives link at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001202692/ I knew from information you received in a reply to one of your posts to Ancestry.com that Thomas Wade married Mary Curran. I found the IFHF marriage indexes for Thomas and Mary showing they were married in 1885. The IFHF search engine accepted Charles Wade as Thomas's father: 1 match for the search criteria: Wade (plus variants) Thomas 1886 Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) Record Type: Marriage Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Wade First Name: Thomas Spouse's Surname: Curran Spouse's First Name: Mary Father's Surname: Wade Father's First Name: Charles Mother's Surname: Mother's First Name: Year: 1885 Parish/District: Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) ____ Next, the IFHF search engine accepted Thomas Curran as Mary's father: 1 match for the search criteria: Curran (plus variants) Mary 1886 Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) Record Type: Marriage Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Curran First Name: Mary Spouse's Surname: Wade Spouse's First Name: Thomas Father's Surname: Curran Father's First Name: Thomas Mother's Surname: Mother's First Name: Year: 1885 Parish/District: Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) ____ I then found the civil birth indexes for 8 children of Thomas Wade and Mary Curran at the IFHF website. These children are: Eliza (1887); Charles (1888); John (1890); Thomas (1892); Mary Ann (1894); Margaret (1896); Joseph (1897); and Robert (1902). The births of all the children were recorded in the Dungannon Registration District: 1 match for the search criteria: Wade (plus variants) Eliza 1887 Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Wade First Name: Eliza Father's Surname: Wade Father's First Name: Thomas Mother's Surname: Curran Mother's First Name: Mary Year: 1887 Parish/District: DUNGANNON (RD) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Wade (plus variants) Charles 1888 Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Wade First Name: Charles Father's Surname: Wade Father's First Name: Thomas Mother's Surname: Curran Mother's First Name: Mary Year: 1888 Parish/District: DUNGANNON (RD) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Wade (plus variants) John 1890 Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Wade First Name: John Father's Surname: Wade Father's First Name: Thomas Mother's Surname: Curran Mother's First Name: Mary Year: 1890 Parish/District: DUNGANNON (RD) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Wade (plus variants) Thomas 1892 Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Wade First Name: Thomas Father's Surname: Wade Father's First Name: Thomas Mother's Surname: Curran Mother's First Name: Mary Year: 1892 Parish/District: DUNGANNON (RD) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Wade (plus variants) Mary Anne 1894 Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Wade First Name: Mary Anne Father's Surname: Wade Father's First Name: Thomas Mother's Surname: Curran Mother's First Name: Mary Year: 1894 Parish/District: DUNGANNON (RD) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Wade (plus variants) Margaret 1896 Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Wade First Name: Margaret Father's Surname: Wade Father's First Name: Thomas Mother's Surname: Curran Mother's First Name: Mary Year: 1896 Parish/District: DUNGANNON (RD) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Wade (plus variants) Joseph 1897 Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Wade First Name: Joseph Father's Surname: Wade Father's First Name: Thomas Mother's Surname: Curran Mother's First Name: Mary Year: 1897 Parish/District: DUNGANNON (RD) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Wade (plus variants) Robert 1902 Parish: DUNGANNON (RD) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Tyrone Surname: Wade First Name: Robert Father's Surname: Wade Father's First Name: Thomas Mother's Surname: Curran Mother's First Name: Mary Year: 1902 Parish/District: DUNGANNON (RD) ____ Next I looked for but did not find baptism indexes for Thomas Wade (son of Charles Wade), and Mary Curran (daughter of Thomas Curran), at the IFHF website for County Tyrone. FLANAGAN Emma, in one of your messages to the Ancestry.com message boards last year, you wrote that you were looking for the marriage of John Patrick Flanagan, who was born in Shorncliffe, Kent in 1890. I didn't have enough information to find a marriage record for him in England or Ireland, but I believe I uncovered information about his parents, Joseph Flanagan and Ellen Sullivan, as well as his siblings. For instance I found what I believe is the marriage index for Joseph Flanagan and Ellen Sullivan at the IFHF website for County Cork (North & East), showing the couple were married in the Cobh Catholic Church in 1888. When Joseph and Ellen were married, Cobh was called Queenstown, and was the point of embarkation for millions of Irish, especially after the Great Famine of the 1840s. Cobh (Queeenstown) is not only famous for its role as a major emigration seaport, but also as the home of a magnificent hill-top gothic cathedral known as St. Coleman's. Construction of St. Coleman's began around 1867, but it wasn't until 1915 that the cathedral was finally consecrated. I'm not sure if Joseph and Ellen would have been married in St. Coleman's. For more information and photos of the cathedral, go to the following links: http://www.cobhcathedral.ie/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Colman's_Cathedral,_Cobh In accessing the marriage index for Joseph and Ellen, I found that the names of their respective parents were also part of the index. But, the IFHF doesn't provide you with their names. You either have to know who they were, guess as to who they may have been, find out who they were through additional research, or order the marriage transcription to find out who the parents were. After a few guesses the IFHF search engine accepted John Flanagan as Joseph's father, and Ann as his mother. I didn't try to guess Ann's maiden name: 1 match for the search criteria: Flanagan (plus variants) Joseph 1888 Parish: COBH (RC) Record Type: Marriage Records for Co. Cork (North & East) Surname: Flanagan First Name: Joseph Spouse's Surname: Sullivan Spouse's First Name: Ellen Father's Surname: Flanagan Father's First Name: John Mother's Surname: Mother's First Name: Ann Year: 1888 Parish/District: Parish: COBH (RC) ____ With Ellen Sullivan as the primary partner in the marriage index, I got lucky. I guessed that her father was John Sullivan and her mother Catherine Sullivan, though I don't know for sure if Sullivan was also Catherine's maiden name: 1 match for the search criteria: Sullivan (plus variants) Ellen 1888 Parish: COBH (RC) Record Type: Marriage Records for Co. Cork (North & East) Surname: Sullivan First Name: Ellen Spouse's Surname: Flanagan Spouse's First Name: Joseph Father's Surname: Sullivan Father's First Name: John Mother's Surname: Sullivan Mother's First Name: Catherine Year: 1888 Parish/District: Parish: COBH (RC) ____ Next I found the IFHF baptism indexes for three children of Joseph Flanagan and Ellen/Helen Sullivan. The children were baptized in the Tullamore (Kings County) Offaly Catholic Church. The children are Michael (1895); Andrew (1897); and Mathew (1899). The IFHF search engine did not accept Ellen as the first name of Andrew's mother, but did accept the alternate spelling of Helen. If you want to access the index and the baptism transcription for Andrew, make sure to spell his mother's first name as Helen. Tullamore, as you probably know, was located in the Civil Parish of Kilbride in Kings County: 1 match for the search criteria: Flanagan (plus variants) Michael 1895 Parish: TULLAMORE (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Offaly Surname: Flanagan First Name: Michael Father's Surname: Flanagan Father's First Name: Joseph Mother's Surname: Sullivan Mother's First Name: Ellen Year: 1895 Parish/District: TULLAMORE (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Flanagan (plus variants) Andrew 1897 Parish: TULLAMORE (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Offaly Surname: Flanagan First Name: Andrew Father's Surname: Flanagan Father's First Name: Joseph Mother's Surname: Sullivan Mother's First Name: Helen Year: 1897 Parish/District: TULLAMORE (RC) ____ 1 match for the search criteria: Flanagan (plus variants) Mathew 1899 Parish: TULLAMORE (RC) Record Type: Baptism/Birth Records for Co. Cork (North & East) Surname: Flanagan First Name: Mathew

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    1. [NIR-TYRONE] Passenger Lists from the Port of Derry/Londonderry

    3. Interesting ... but try to find the lists for 1850 for Port of Derry/Londonderry .... looking for the Macklins from Longford [Londford] and Donegheady [Dunnamangh] as well who in all likelihood went to Quebec/Halifax via the usual Liverpool transit point. Eric Macklin   ________________________________ From: Chris McAnall <[email protected]> To: Ulster Ancestry <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:36:31 AM Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Passenger Lists from the Port of Derry/Londonderry Thanks Robert! My 2nd great grandfather's name in the US records was John Robert McAnall and he was born on Feb 9, 1840. During the 1860s (if not earlier as well), his family lived in Donagheady parish of County Tyrone, in or nearby the townland Moyagh. He was the oldest of 11 children and likely the only one to come over to the US ("parting on the Derry Quay" as a letter from one of his siblings put it). He first shows up on the 1870 census and the 1900 census says he immigrated to the US in 1867. The spelling of the surname varied a lot in Ireland from the records I have found thus far for his parents and siblings: M'Nall/McNall/McNaul/McAnal. Hope that's enough (but not too much) information for you. I really appreciate your help. Chris On Jan 11, 2013 11:11 AM, "Ulster Ancestry" <[email protected]> wrote: >  Hello Chris, > > There is no such thing as a "complete" passengers list of all ships or > passengers leaving Londonderry Port > however I do have transcripts of the J & J Cooks Line from 1847-1863 and > the McCorkell line up to 1871 both out of Londonderry. > Local sailing ships were overtaken soon after that by the big Steam Ships > lines which left out of Glasgow, stopping off in Lough Foyle to pick up > their Irish passengers on route. > > Have you names for your family and I'll check for you. > > best regards > Robert > www.ulsterancestry.com > > > From: [email protected] > > Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 10:21:53 -0500 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Passenger Lists from the Port of Derry/Londonderry > > > > Does anyone know of a complete list of all the passenger ships that left > > Londonderry (with or withour passenger lists)? > > > > I'm particularly interested in the 1860s, as I know this is when my 2nd > > great grandfather came over to the States. > > > > Thanks, > > Chris > > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Ulster Ancestry < > [email protected] > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Boyd, > > > > > > I have had these McCorkell Passenger Lists on my website for some years > > > now, as a free page. > > > > > > see http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ShowFreePage.php?id=146 > > > > > > There are several other ships lists as well, complied over the past 12 > > > years. > > > All are free to search.. > > > > > > best regards > > > Robert > > > www.ulsterancestry.com > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > To: [email protected]; [email protected]; > > > [email protected]; [email protected] > > > > Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:29:13 +0000 > > > > Subject: [CoTyIre] Passenger Lists from the Port of Derry/Londonderry > > > > > > > > Hi Listers, > > > > > > > > I was sent this link recently and to my amazement, it contains the > > > passenger > > > > lists of the Cooke and McCorkell shipping lines that operated out of > > > Derry > > > > and they are searchable and FREE!! > > > > http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_ships.shtml > > > > > > > > I did not know these were online. It searches places as well as > names. > > > I > > > > noticed a list from 1847 which has no less than 94 people shipped > out to > > > > Quebec from Strabane Workhouse! > > > > > > > > Boyd Gray > > > > > > > > http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/default.htm > > > > > > > > http://www.westulstergenealogy.com/ > > > > > > > > http://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------- > > > > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------- > > > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------- > > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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