Hello Ally If it mentions "Administration" this indicates there was no Will, hence no image available.All there is, is what you have viewed on line. Michael Murphy who was granted administration was the son of the deceased James MurphyThe death certificate will give name and address of the person reporting and registering the death who may or may not be the next of kin. regards Robert www.ulsterancestry.com > Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 14:34:55 -0400 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NIR-TYRONE] [CoTyIre] Ordering Document from PRONI > > I went back to look, it says, "24 March Administration of the estate of > James Murphy late of Annaghmakeown County Tyrone Farmer who died 19 February > 1897 granted at Armagh to Michael Murphy of Annaghmakeown Steel Worker the > Son Effects £61 10s." > > To me this seems to have more text. It sounds like it should say "... The > Son of xxxxxx". In my family tree Michael and James were brothers (again if > I have the right family), which would make James ".....the son of Edward". > > So, I guess there is no will, just possibly a letter of administration. Now > to get a death cert. > > Ally > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Ulster Ancestry > Date: 5/29/2013 8:51:45 AM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NIR-TYRONE] [CoTyIre] Ordering Document from PRONI > > Hello Ally, > Are you sure there is a Will? Does the description make mention of "Letters > of Administration"If so, the person died intestate so there was no WillWhat > is the name and the year ? I can check it out for you in PRONI if you like. > best regardsRobertwww.ulsterancestry.com > > > Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 20:11:38 -0400 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > Subject: [CoTyIre] Ordering Document from PRONI > > > > I just found in the Will Calendars a will for someone who may be an > ancestor > > I checked the PRONI site and it is indeed listed, but it says 'No Image'. > > Does that mean there is no image online -OR- no image at all? Also, how > > would I go about ordering a copy of this will? > > > > Thanks, > > Ally > > ------------- > > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please post messages in plain text. Admin > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please post messages in plain text. Admin > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Sean, I have not heard it mentioned. I can ask, but as far as I am aware PRONI only intend to do major update to their website each year.The Revision Books was 2012-2013. I know they are presently working on more Will books but beyond that I cannot say. best regardsRobert > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 13:08:13 +0000 > Subject: Re: [NIR-TYRONE] [CoTyIre] Ordering Document from PRONI > > hi Robert, > > I wonder if you could ask PRONI if they intend putting online the Poll Tax List for Fermanagh which was taken in the 1600s ?? > > That would be a great help for me. > > I have an O'FEE family in the 1659 Census, but it doesn't give any names. > > In the Hearth Tax return there is a mention of Donagh O'FEE, who is probably the Grandfather of Patrick FEE 1715-1784 > who is buried in Pubble graveyard. > > Regards, > > SEAN > > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 12:50:18 +0000 > > Subject: Re: [NIR-TYRONE] [CoTyIre] Ordering Document from PRONI > > > > Hello Ally, > > Are you sure there is a Will? Does the description make mention of "Letters of Administration"If so, the person died intestate so there was no WillWhat is the name and the year ? I can check it out for you in PRONI if you like. > > best regardsRobertwww.ulsterancestry.com > > > > > Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 20:11:38 -0400 > > > From: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > > Subject: [CoTyIre] Ordering Document from PRONI > > > > > > I just found in the Will Calendars a will for someone who may be an ancestor > > > I checked the PRONI site and it is indeed listed, but it says 'No Image'. > > > Does that mean there is no image online -OR- no image at all? Also, how > > > would I go about ordering a copy of this will? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Ally > > > ------------- > > > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Please post messages in plain text. Admin > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please post messages in plain text. Admin > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I went back to look, it says, "24 March Administration of the estate of James Murphy late of Annaghmakeown County Tyrone Farmer who died 19 February 1897 granted at Armagh to Michael Murphy of Annaghmakeown Steel Worker the Son Effects £61 10s." To me this seems to have more text. It sounds like it should say "... The Son of xxxxxx". In my family tree Michael and James were brothers (again if I have the right family), which would make James ".....the son of Edward". So, I guess there is no will, just possibly a letter of administration. Now to get a death cert. Ally -------Original Message------- From: Ulster Ancestry Date: 5/29/2013 8:51:45 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [NIR-TYRONE] [CoTyIre] Ordering Document from PRONI Hello Ally, Are you sure there is a Will? Does the description make mention of "Letters of Administration"If so, the person died intestate so there was no WillWhat is the name and the year ? I can check it out for you in PRONI if you like. best regardsRobertwww.ulsterancestry.com > Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 20:11:38 -0400 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [CoTyIre] Ordering Document from PRONI > > I just found in the Will Calendars a will for someone who may be an ancestor > I checked the PRONI site and it is indeed listed, but it says 'No Image'. > Does that mean there is no image online -OR- no image at all? Also, how > would I go about ordering a copy of this will? > > Thanks, > Ally > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please post messages in plain text. Admin ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hi Robert, I wonder if you could ask PRONI if they intend putting online the Poll Tax List for Fermanagh which was taken in the 1600s ?? That would be a great help for me. I have an O'FEE family in the 1659 Census, but it doesn't give any names. In the Hearth Tax return there is a mention of Donagh O'FEE, who is probably the Grandfather of Patrick FEE 1715-1784 who is buried in Pubble graveyard. Regards, SEAN > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 12:50:18 +0000 > Subject: Re: [NIR-TYRONE] [CoTyIre] Ordering Document from PRONI > > Hello Ally, > Are you sure there is a Will? Does the description make mention of "Letters of Administration"If so, the person died intestate so there was no WillWhat is the name and the year ? I can check it out for you in PRONI if you like. > best regardsRobertwww.ulsterancestry.com > > > Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 20:11:38 -0400 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > Subject: [CoTyIre] Ordering Document from PRONI > > > > I just found in the Will Calendars a will for someone who may be an ancestor > > I checked the PRONI site and it is indeed listed, but it says 'No Image'. > > Does that mean there is no image online -OR- no image at all? Also, how > > would I go about ordering a copy of this will? > > > > Thanks, > > Ally > > ------------- > > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please post messages in plain text. Admin > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Ally, Are you sure there is a Will? Does the description make mention of "Letters of Administration"If so, the person died intestate so there was no WillWhat is the name and the year ? I can check it out for you in PRONI if you like. best regardsRobertwww.ulsterancestry.com > Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 20:11:38 -0400 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [CoTyIre] Ordering Document from PRONI > > I just found in the Will Calendars a will for someone who may be an ancestor > I checked the PRONI site and it is indeed listed, but it says 'No Image'. > Does that mean there is no image online -OR- no image at all? Also, how > would I go about ordering a copy of this will? > > Thanks, > Ally > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hi, I just transcribed the Will from the image, if there is no image it is doubtful there is anything to order. You can try emailing PRONI at... http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/contact_us.htm Good luck, SEAN > I just found in the Will Calendars a will for someone who may be an ancestor > I checked the PRONI site and it is indeed listed, but it says 'No Image'. > Does that mean there is no image online -OR- no image at all? Also, how > would I go about ordering a copy of this will? > > Thanks, > Ally > Please post messages in plain text. Admin > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LindaDaley782 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/7441.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: yes, he was working on the descendants of Thomas and Jane \Lightfoot. he didnt have any information on Thomas or Jane though. We were of some assistance to him. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: anniecrenshaw Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/7441.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Any child in a birth/christening record could have died soon afterwards, so I wouldn't be doubtful when a family doesn't have that child with them a year later, or a month later, or a week later. Infant mortality was high in the early 1800s. If you only had access to the TYPED Donaghmore Church of Ireland records, I'd work on getting someone to view the original handwritten records on microfilm. Did you have any luck in your correspondence with "bambuskateboards" (Rick) last year? He seemed to be researching the same family. ------------------------------------------------------------ Re: Jane Ardrey - christened 1816 - Tyrone Ireland bambuskateboards Posted: 28 Mar 2012 Surnames: Ardrey, Lightfoot I show Jane was born in Ireland Mar. 26, 1816 and Died Jul. 1, 1907 in Aylmer Ontario, Canada. Her Husband Thomas [Lightfoot] was born Sep. 10, 1811 in Great Ayton North Yorkshire, England and died Sep. 9, 1898 in Elgin, Ontario, Canada. I show Jane's father to be William Ardrey, born Sep. 7, 1792 in Ireland and died Oct. 26, 1869 in Lewiston Niagara County New York, USA ----------------------------------------------------------- Regards, Annie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LindaDaley782 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/7441.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Annie, Yes I have ordered the microfilm reel of the church of donaghmore records and see Jane christened as well as a brother Robert. We cannot find any further trace of Robert...IF this is our family when we can first find them in the united States there was no Robert with them, however he would still have been very young and should have been with it. Thanks for the information. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I just found in the Will Calendars a will for someone who may be an ancestor I checked the PRONI site and it is indeed listed, but it says 'No Image'. Does that mean there is no image online -OR- no image at all? Also, how would I go about ordering a copy of this will? Thanks, Ally

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: anniecrenshaw Surnames: ARDREY, ARDRAY Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/7441.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jan, Did you ever fully search Donaghmore Church of Ireland records for this family? LDS indexes of those church records show what you seem to have found: Name: Jane Ardray Gender: Female Christening Date: Mar 1816 Christening Place: DONAGHMORE,TYRONE,IRELAND Father's Name: Wm Ardray Mother's Name: Jane Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C70070-1 GS Film number: 0962187 IT 9 You can read through all the Ardrey/Ardray entries in that database in the IGI (International Genealogical Index) on LDS FamilySearch, under Batch # C70070-1. Exact dates were not always written in early church records, and the month and year may be all that was written for Jane's baptism or christening at the time. Microfilmed originals of these Donaghmore records are at PRONI in Belfast. You could have a researcher there go over all the Donaghmore records for you, to fully extract details on the various Ardreys. Ardrey is NOT a common name in County Tyrone, and this March 1816 baptism/christening certainly seems to be the same Jane Ardrey who is in your family tree. Regards, Annie C. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: annewolstenholme Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/7472.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi I found these Bloomer's living at 51 Eureka st Belfast on 1901 census. I know there was a Bloomer Family living at Anacramp Caledon, don't know when they left, my mother was from Anacramp. Bloomer Annie 10 Daughter Bloomer Maria 17 Daughter Bloomer Mary 40 Head of Family Hope you find this useful, regards Anne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

We have just added the 1857 enlistees to the Irish Constabulary. These were transcribed by Richard Leonard and put into text format by Gary Caldwell. So, a joint effort, as usual. To view the transcriptions - go to the County and then Military & Constabulary. http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Enjoy! Christina

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BloomerG29 Surnames: Bloomer Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/7472/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to find out information about anyone called Bloomer who moved from County Tyrone (maybe Caledon area) to Sandy Row area of Belfast (Eureka Street, Hunter Stree, Matilda Street) around 1850 to 1900. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Baker_Oliver Surnames: SCOTT, NEWTON Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/7471/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I'm trying to work out who the parents of my 3rd great grandfather James SCOTT are. James SCOTT was born in 1799, though I do not know where. Burke's records would have me believe he was born in Broomhill ,FIFE, Scotland. What I do know is that he married an Eliza NEWTON in Co. Antrim 1820. James SCOTT owned Bloomhill (different from Broomhill )in the parish of Tullyniskan, in the Barony of Dungannon, in the province of Ulster, in Co. Tyrone. I have heard there are no census records from 1821-91 in this area, as they were burned or destroyed by the government. However, I recently came across James SCOTT's will. He died 06/05/1873 in Dungannon. The will also states that his eldest son Thomas Scott predeceased him. I am not sure if I am allowed to give the link to the source. The will mentions that he had a cousin called Thomas SCOTT Jr., residing in Rathfryland. Other sons I know existed are: Robert William SCOTT m. Charlotte Pike, from whom I descend, Andrew Newton SCOTT, named in the will, and James Hamilton SCOTT. James SCOTT might have been a J.P for Co. Tyrone. If anyone could please help me discover James Scott of Bloomhill's parentage and where he, and his parents came from I would be most grateful as this problem has had me stumped for awhile. James SCOTT's wife Eliza NEWTON was descended from the NEWTONs of Carrickfergus. This I know to be fact as in James SCOTT's will it mentions other descendants of the Carrickfergus NEWTONs. Eliza was born in 1898. I am also struggling to find who her exact parents are as well, I think her father is most likely to be Henry NEWTON b.1779. Please could someone also attempt to find whom Eliza's parents are, as this is another problem that has had me stumped. Many thanks, Ollie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jcmaher471 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/228.53.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Reference to your inquiry about Cunningham family from Maine. My name, and that of my father, is James Cunningham Maher. My grandmother was Gertrude Agnes Maher, née Cunningham. Her father was James Cunningham. We are all originally from Portland, Maine. My great-grandfather, James, was from Manor Hamilton, Co. Leitrim, Ireland. By profession he was a mason and builder. He constructed many if the brick buildings in the port area of Portland, as well as the Lafayette Hotel on Congress Street. I have a photo of the family's home in Manor Hamilton prominently showing the Cunningham name. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MarilynGappa Surnames: Sause, Stokes, Lonergan, O'Connor, Downey, Conway, Riney, McCord, Bradley Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/7470.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so much. My gg grandparents James SAUSE b. circa 1800 and wife Ellenor STOKES were from Co Tipperary, m. 21 Oct 1803 in Thurles, Co Tipperary. My great granfather Michael SAUSE baptized in the Parish of Moyne, Co Tipperary 26 Oct 1825, and his siblings. My gg grandma Julia LUNDERGAN LONERGAN FITZGIBBON O'CONNOR was also born in Co Tipperary circa 1820. My great grandma Margaret Downey Sause was born 29 Aug 1834 Doonan, Co Queens, now Co Laois. Her father Matthew DOWNEY b. circa 1800 Parish of Doonan, and his father Michael DOWNEY, and his father George DOWNEY, Co Queens Matthew DOWNEY's wife, Ellen CONWAY born circa 1805 in Athy, Co Kildare. Ellen went from Liverpool to NY 15 Sept 1840, they were in Philadelphia area, Pottsville, PA. After he died in 1850 she went to Martin Co IN. My gg grand Michael O'CONNOR was born Co Kerry about 1820. My maternal RINEY ancestors were probably from Co Kerry. Their son, my ggg grand, Jeremiah RINEY was born in Maryland USA circa 1765. There is a RINEY pub in Sneem, Co Kerry. Many of Mom's ancestors were from Maryland in the mid 1700's. We won't get north on this trip, but my ancestor William McCORD born circa 1680, his father John McCORD died 1715 Stewartstown, Co Tyrone. My ggg grand, Phfelix BRADLEY born Maghera, Co Derry 7 Apr 1780, his son Patrick BRADLEY b.1 Jun 1804 my gg grandfather and wife Roseanne b 9 Feb 1815 in Maghera. Thanks for any help available Marilyn (Sause Conlon) Gappa Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: curtis27V Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/164.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: That would be great. Make sure you check out the free military records this weekend. I just pulled up a few interesting ones. will email you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nsmurray1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/164.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have William Orr born 1765 in Tyrone, could be a nephew of Patrick? It will be fun to trade information. I would love to have copeis of what you have. You can contact me at [email protected] if you wish. Many thanks, Brenda My mom was an Orr Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: curtis27V Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/7470.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have my info handed down throught the family. A lot of the records were destoryed in a fire in Ireland I was told. Really haven't had time to look on any web sights lately to see what is out there. This web sight is good. Have you checked out familysearch.org or rootsweb.com great sight also. Good Luck! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.