----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <NIR-TYRONE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 10:53 AM Subject: [NIR-TYRONE] RODGERS, Samuel > Looking for more information for Samuel John Rodgers, b. 6 Feb 1862 in > Tyrone, Ireland and died in 1938 in Australia. He was married to Annie > Mulligan, b. 19 Aug 1861 in Ireland and died 28 Mar 1931 in Australia. > I have a Thomas John MULLIGAN (School Teacher from Armaloughey, Tyrone) whose daughter Annie Elizabeth MULLIGAN b.1890 migrated to Bendigo, Victoria and married William John AYLETT. Do you have nore data on the Tyrone Mulligan family? Thomas may have been a brother of your Annie. Barry Graham Melbourne, Australia

Kathy, An excellent website is http://www.breadyancestry.com/index.php?id=genealogy which has some records digitized for Donagheady, including gravestone inscriptions from Grange, Old Donagheady and Old Leckpatrick burial grounds -----Original Message----- From: Kathy <bellmole@sympatico.ca> To: nir-tyrone@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 8:00 am Subject: Re: [NIR-TYRONE] Cemetery Surveys Thank you so much for the information Eric. My next question is where would I find such a survey for Donaheady? Thank You Kathy

Its funny, I have asked and been asked this question before and each time I go through it Faye tells me something new. So while this example concerns a relative of mine, the example is "relative" to your and as it turns out an olde question of mine. So here it is, and I quote [both of your e-mails arrived this morning] Hello Eric, When David Todd worked on the headstone inscriptions in Old Donagheady he wrote this in the book: Procedure for Recording. The graveyard is roughly rectangular as may be seen from the Strabane District Council's map on page vii. Starting at the north-west corner, grids ten metres square were marked, proceeding along the east wall and coded A1, A2, A3, B1, B3 and so on. (This coding continued to H3) The grids coded 3 narrow slightly as they approach the west wall and are never the exact ten metres square; both north and south walls are 80 metres; the east is 32.5 and the west 27. The Macklin headstone is located in B2 #4 I have attempted to show you below the layout of his B2 grid 3 4 2 1 Headstone #1 - no name, #2 - Divine, #3 - Brown & #4 - Macklin (only part of name J. MACKL..... ) From: "Kathy" <bellmole@sympatico.ca> To: <nir-tyrone@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 5:00 AM Subject: Re: [NIR-TYRONE] Cemetery Surveys Thank you so much for the information Eric. My next question is where would I find such a survey for Donaheady? Thank You Kathy

Thank you so much for the information Eric. My next question is where would I find such a survey for Donaheady? Thank You Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "E Macklin" <emacklin@rogers.com> To: <nir-tyrone@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:41 AM Subject: [NIR-TYRONE] Cemetery Surveys > Good morning Kathy: > > A "Cemetery Survey" is one where someone would create a geographical > layout of the cemetery then layout a grid. Then they would summarize all > existing headstones/monuments and inscriptions and place them on the grid. > They would do this in order to determine how the plots were arranged and > allotted to various individuals and families. Once that is done there will > appear empty spaces on the grid which are then sounded to determine if > some > of the original stones which at one time were standing were now flat of > the > ground and in many cases for the older cemeteries, just under the surface > of > the ground. In this case they would be "retrieved" by removing surface > material in order to read the inscription(s) on the stones. In a great > many > cases the stones are broken, which in this case they are left on the > ground > but re-assembled and repaired. At last there would be empty spaces which > are > then sounded to see if the plot had been used at all. Most if not all > Burial > Registers gave you everything but the location of the internment. > The reason this is done is that in a great many cases cemeteries were used > on a first come first served basis and filled in around some parts of the > cemetery which had been allotted to some of the families. In this case we > are dealing with some of the smaller cemeteries. The more current > cemeteries > all have grids with pre-determined plots laid out on a grid, all in nice > neat rows and columns. The older ones were a bit of a jumble. In most > cases > the stones were of limestone and are no longer legible, even if they could > be found. In the end, in many cases we are left with the notation, "that > they are buried there, but now only God knows". > So then that's it in a nut shell. Hope that answers your question. > > Eric > > From: "Kathy" <bellmole@sympatico.ca> > To: <nir-tyrone@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 6:54 PM > Subject: Re: [NIR-TYRONE] Cemetery Surveys > > > Could you please tell me exactly what cemetery survey actually means? > Thank You > > From: "E Macklin" <emacklin@rogers.com> > To: <nir-tyrone@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 11:25 AM > Subject: [NIR-TYRONE] Cemetery Surveys > > There have been surveys for the cemeteries at Donegheady and Old > Donegheady in Co Tyrone. Has the cemtery at Bunowen ever been done? > > Eric > > > Please post messages in plain text only > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-TYRONE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: NYLady847 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/6683/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ann McNalis b 1868 in Pa.lived with James Meighan and family in 1870 Wilkes Barre, Pa. She was probably a grandaughter. I am trying to find out who her parent were, any info please contact me. Elaine Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Good morning Kathy: A "Cemetery Survey" is one where someone would create a geographical layout of the cemetery then layout a grid. Then they would summarize all existing headstones/monuments and inscriptions and place them on the grid. They would do this in order to determine how the plots were arranged and allotted to various individuals and families. Once that is done there will appear empty spaces on the grid which are then sounded to determine if some of the original stones which at one time were standing were now flat of the ground and in many cases for the older cemeteries, just under the surface of the ground. In this case they would be "retrieved" by removing surface material in order to read the inscription(s) on the stones. In a great many cases the stones are broken, which in this case they are left on the ground but re-assembled and repaired. At last there would be empty spaces which are then sounded to see if the plot had been used at all. Most if not all Burial Registers gave you everything but the location of the internment. The reason this is done is that in a great many cases cemeteries were used on a first come first served basis and filled in around some parts of the cemetery which had been allotted to some of the families. In this case we are dealing with some of the smaller cemeteries. The more current cemeteries all have grids with pre-determined plots laid out on a grid, all in nice neat rows and columns. The older ones were a bit of a jumble. In most cases the stones were of limestone and are no longer legible, even if they could be found. In the end, in many cases we are left with the notation, "that they are buried there, but now only God knows". So then that's it in a nut shell. Hope that answers your question. Eric From: "Kathy" <bellmole@sympatico.ca> To: <nir-tyrone@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-TYRONE] Cemetery Surveys Could you please tell me exactly what cemetery survey actually means? Thank You From: "E Macklin" <emacklin@rogers.com> To: <nir-tyrone@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 11:25 AM Subject: [NIR-TYRONE] Cemetery Surveys There have been surveys for the cemeteries at Donegheady and Old Donegheady in Co Tyrone. Has the cemtery at Bunowen ever been done? Eric

Could you please tell me exactly what cemetery survey actually means? Thank You ----- Original Message ----- From: "E Macklin" <emacklin@rogers.com> To: <nir-tyrone@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 11:25 AM Subject: [NIR-TYRONE] Cemetery Surveys > There have been surveys for the cemeteries at Donegheady and Old > Donegheady in Co Tyrone. Has the cemtery at Bunowen ever been done? > > Eric > Please post messages in plain text only > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-TYRONE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Eric and list, Regarding the COI registers, not all burned. The requirement at the time was that if the Church of Ireland rector did not have secure place to keep the registers (e.g., a safe), the originals were to be sent to Dublin for safekeeping -- ironic given the 1922 fire! HOWEVER, a number of registers were never turned over to Dublin and were kept in local custody. According to the Church of Ireland website, "[a]lmost half of the surviving registers were destroyed in 1922 and others have been lost at earlier periods. However, much of the lost information survives in transcripts and abstracts. The most recent published listing of parish registers is Noel Reid (ed) A table of Church of Ireland parochial records and copies (Irish Family History Society, Naas, 1994). In addition useful genealogical information may be had from other parish records especially vestry minute books, churchwardens' account books and cess applotment books." See http://ireland.anglican.org/index.php?do=information&id=68 Regards, Clare -----Original Message----- Eric wrote: <<<Just finished taking a look at one of your more recent items covering Parish Registers for Co Tyrone. I've edited it down for just the C of I and all I can say is that the fire of 1922 in Dublin must have been a biggie, there are hardly any Baptismal Registers for the C of I for the 1830 period covering Co Tyrone. The rest is now by guess and by golly. Looking for William Macklin C of I B 1830 Co Tyrone.>>>

There have been surveys for the cemeteries at Donegheady and Old Donegheady in Co Tyrone. Has the cemtery at Bunowen ever been done? Eric

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: elainksr Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/6680.1.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I wish I could help you with this, but at this point, I know very little about my Nelson ancestors except that my great grandparents were married at Omagh, Tyrone in 1860. I don't know if my grandfather, Thomas Beatty Nelson ever lived in Ohio. He married and lived out his life in northern Minnesota. He was born in Ire., but I don't know yet when he came to the U.S. If I find out any connection to your Ohio relatives, I will let you know! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello there: Just finished taking a look at one of your more recent items covering Parish Registers for Co Tyrone. I've edited it down for just the C of I and all I can say is that the fire of 1922 in Dublin must have been a biggie, there are hardly any Baptismal Registers for the C of I for the 1830 period covering Co Tyrone. The rest is now by guess and by golly. Looking for William Macklin C of I B 1830 Co Tyrone. Eric As in all genealogical endeavours, The further back you look, The further back you see, The longer you work for something, The longer you wait for something.

It is my pleasure to announce that the complete 1864 Ireland Birth Index is now online at the Ireland GenWeb website at: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/ We had much help with this project which enabled us to complete it in a record four months. Here are the good people who took time out of their busy lives to help others by transcribing pages: Rosemary Cairns, Bill Roberge, Jan MacMillan, Joy Burgos, Bob McConihe, Ronnie Lorentz, Ellen Ahrens, Eileen Redman, Diane Culhane, Kathy Snowberger, Jim Cox, Jim Buckley, Patricia McGill, Colleen McNamara, Rita Meistrel, Bill King, Margaret Minoughan, Eileen Sullivan, James Sullivan, MaryPat Carey, Candi Zizek, Maggie Lambert, Mary Devlin, Kelly Anne Binari, Judie Mason, Mary Mizzi, Dan Doherty, Nora Fitzgerald and David Collins. The volunteers came from all over the world, many from Australia and Canada, some from England, one from Croatia and many from the USA. It was great talking to all of you. Other new updates on the site include the Surname Registries and DataBank plus new Special Projects. Wanted: We need coordinators for the following counties: Carlow, Longford, Laois, Meath, Westmeath and Waterford. If you have knowledge of how to make webpages plus an interest in the county, contact me off list. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: letom2 Surnames: Nelson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/6680.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My Maternal G.G.Grandfather, John Nelson, born district of Killen, Castlederg,Co.Tyrone abt.1825 emigrated with his wife(? Scott from Londonderry) to Ohio abt. 1847. His wife died in the USA abt. 1858 and so he returned to Castlederg in 1860 with his daughter,Margaret Jane Nelson born ,Ohio 1855. Margaret Jane was my G.Grandmother and she married My G.Grandfather,William McCracken in Castlederg Church of Ireland in 14 November 1879. One of my Aunts who lives in California visited the Nelson Burial site in Ohio back in 1968 but she can't remember the location or even the name of the town. all she could tell me that there was an indian massacre there in the 1800s. My great aunt, Kathleen McCracken was killed in a car train collision on a railroad crossing in the 1920s in Ohio where she was living with one of her Nelson kin. My great Uncle,Robert Mccracken(deceased)inherited the Nelson homestead at Killen. l still reside in Northern Ireland. ring any bells? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mjbi11 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/6682.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks so much! I know also that Robert's parents were Patrick Fitzgerald and Catherine Donnelly. I'm hoping for some information about Sarah's parents or siblings. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: moren Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/6682.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Name: Robert FITZGERALD Date of departure: 12 October 1914 Port of departure: Londonderry Passenger destination port: New York, USA Passenger destination: New York, USA Date of Birth: 1854 (calculated from age) Age: 60 Marital status: Married Sex: Male Occupation: Farmer Passenger recorded on: Page 5 of 18 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: - Elizabeth FITZGERALD Page 5 of 18 View transcript Ellen FITZGERALD Page 5 of 18 View transcript Francis FITZGERALD Page 5 of 18 View transcript James FITZGERALD Page 5 of 18 View transcript Sarah FITZGERALD Page 5 of 18 View transcript Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: moren Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/6682.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Entry Details Record Type Civil Marriage Date of Marriage 14 Aug 1873 Groom Name robert FITZGERALD Bride Name sarah QUIN Church Coalisland Roman Catholic Church Parish Donaghenry Civil District Dungannon County Tyrone Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mjbi11 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/6682/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for any information on Sarah Quinn (or Quin), b. 1856, who married Robert Fitzgerald in Ireland. They came to US in 1914 from Coalisland, Co. Tyrone. I'd love to know parents and siblings. And, a separate branch...Hugh Quinn, b. 1723 Cookstown, Co. Tyrone. Married Margaret Fondren and came to South Carolina after 1748. Any information appreciated on either family! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: emamc Surnames: Lynn; McQuade; Deignan; McSporran; Smith; Barr; Young Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/3267.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi I am sorry you have had no luck with your Lynn/Linn look up. I was interested in that you had Lynn/Linn's from Co Tyrone. My lot came from Shanmaghrey a townland near Dungannon. I would be interested to find if there was any connection with yours, although so far all of mine have been catholic. Liz Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: elainksr Surnames: Nelson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/6680.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much for this information. I wish I knew when they emigrated from Ireland, or maybe, only Thomas the younger left. Are there any death records for anyone of this family? Or any other information about them? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: azpiper Surnames: Loans in Ireland Classification: birth Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/66.116.592.803.835.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hi there. I had Loans who were born in Northern Ireland, one was Thomas Loan, born abt 1850 during the famine, and emigrated to the USA around 1868. He lived in Pennsylvania. His grandfather may have been Joseph Loan, his mother was most likely from Scotland. Don't know her name though. Any information (further) would be appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.