For anyone wanting some historical information. http://www.archive.org/details/texts In the search box type 'Ireland' or 'Belfast' or 'Tyrone County' etc. The best way I've found is to then use the 'flip book' format. Happy reading! Betty Lynne

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gennut62 Surnames: Drummond Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/6712/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for father of Thomas DRUMMOND b. 1806, in Co. Tyrone. They lived in Woodside, in parish Termonomongan, in West Omagh before immigrating to America in 1860. He had daughter, Mary, b. abt 1842 and a brother, John DRUMMOND, who came to America ca. 1840 and a brother, James DRUMMOND, who was killed in the Crimean War. They were settled in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania by 1870. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gennut62 Surnames: Drummond Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/6711/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for father of Thomas DRUMMOND b. 1806, in Co. Tyrone. They lived in Woodside, in parish Termonomongan, in West Omagh before immigrating to America in 1860. He had daughter, Mary, b. abt 1842 and a brother, John DRUMMOND, who came to America ca. 1840 and a brother, James DRUMMOND, who was killed in the Crimean War. They were settled in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania by 1870. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Betharper31 Surnames: Mc Dowell/Black Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/164.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Peter - I get messages automatically on "Blacks" and on going back through this thread I see you know a lot about Mc Dowells(my lot pronounce it as if it was spelt Madole,and early members were in Co Down)In my case a William John Mc Dowell(b 1865) married Elizabeth (Lizzie)Black (b 1869) in Railway St Presbyterian Church in 1893 (my grandparents) so I have a double interest in these posts.William John Mc Dowell's father was John Mc Dowell(bc 1837) married Martha Ann Irwin in 1860 in Magheralin,Co Down. John's father(according to marriage cert.) was David Mc Dowell and there I'm stuck - can't find any David Mc Dowell/McDowall.Madole anywhere to fit the time frame. Lizzie Black was the daughter of Joseph Black who married Martha Craig,a widow,nee Weir(father Joseph Weir)in 1858 in Malkone Pres Church.Joseph Black was born 1822 in Kildress,Co Tyrone - must have gravitated to Belfast c 1850's.Lizzie Black had sisters Jane Black m'd James Irwin,Mary Black m'd Thomas Sinclair,Margaret Black m'd W.J. Shirlow and a brother Joseph Black b 1865 that I know nothing more about.Any help with David Mc Dowell appreciated. Betsy Harper. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PeterSeymour101 Surnames: Orr McDole Armstrong Wilson Knox Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/164.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have found some time to look at the Orr's from Tyrone. There were some Orr's of whom one Fleming Orr was invited to be on trial for the ministry in 1880 in Londonderry and possibly his kin James, Robert, Thomes as well in other cicuits. I will scan it and send it to you. the entry is from 'The history of Methodism in Ireland by Rev. Crookshank. I will check the Ontario lists. I have a site with a linf at the botom History of Methodism in Canada. see peterbees dot tribalpages dot com and the password is visitor. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CasoNewie Surnames: Black/Hamilton/Hill Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/604.1454.4.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I'm also interested in the Blacks of Kildress, my gg-grandfather was Alexander Black of Tattykeel/Terrywinny. His father was Samuel, I don't have his mother's name. Do you have any information on these Blacks? I look forward to hearing from you. Regards Cas Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Claire: To make things simple Claire, if I reply to the list and it doesn't show up due to "Specific Address" then I should leave the list, plain and simple, as should a whole bunch of us. Eric As in all genealogical endeavours, The further back you look, The further back you see, The longer you work for something, The longer you wait for something.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dabcpa_1 Surnames: McCarney, Cilgan Classification: immigration Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/6710/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Can you help me find a record of Patrick McCarney and Bridget Colgan immigration to USA from Ireland. Co. Cork andTyronne Co.? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Seamusarthurdoran Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/3243.1.1.1.1.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hiya Bob, Sorry, I made a mistake. My e-mail address wasn't in my profile. However, it is now Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: yted1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/6709/mb.ashx Message Board Post: my grandfather came to u.s.in 1924 as patrick gormley, but registered as patrick gormally, born in galway 1903.would like more info. please. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Seamusarthurdoran Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/3243.1.1.1.1.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry, Clare... my e-mail address is now in my profile. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: woodlane52 Surnames: Blacks of Kildress Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/604.1454.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: We have info on Blacks of Kildress. My husband is Desmond Black from Kildress, Cookstown. Do please contact me again if you think I an be of help. Helen Black Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tyroneire Surnames: McCRORY, MORRIS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/3243.1.1.1.1.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Seamus, for some reason I can't see your e-mail address in the profile. Mine is tyroneire (at) aol (dot) com. -Clare Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tyroneire Surnames: McCRORY, MORRIS, ROGERS, RODGERS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/3243.1.1.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Seamus, I also have McCRORYs from the parish & MORRISes by marriage to cousins. Do you know where in partocular yours lived? If you have names and dates (even if approximnate) I can check my records to see what I have for you. There were a number of McCRORY families is the district of Coneyglen (made up of a few townlands). Do you know if you McCRORYs (a.k.a. ROGERS/RODGERS) had a family nickname? Looking forward to hearing from you, Clare Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: moren Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/605.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Entry Details Record Type Civil Marriage Date of Marriage 19 Aug 1888 Groom Name edward CUSH Bride Name mary DONAGHY Church Dungannon Roman Catholic Church Parish Drumglass Civil District Dungannon County Tyrone Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tyroneire Surnames: MORRIS, McCRORY, ROGERS, RODGERS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/3243.1.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Just an FYI, the placename of "Crouck Morris" has not been in use since the time of the Tithe Applotment circa 1830. The current townland is Crock (or Crouck) and is a large townland in the civil parish of Badoney Lower which is in the Roman Catholic Parish of Greencastle. The R.C. Parish of Greencastle was formed and carved out from the R.C. parish of Badoney Lower in 1892. -Clare with a number of ties to this parish Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: patriciaschofield34 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/605.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My Father James Cush Born 1898 in Cranford Gorey Co Wexford had brother's. Peter(1886 died 1915 ww1 in France).as did Micheal(1901 died 1918 in France).They had another brother he went to USA I can't remember his name.I have a second cousin Ellen Nolan.Could your Father Peter be the same family. Regards Pat(nee Cush). Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: viaggiatore Surnames: Glasgow, McCormick, McNiece, Brown Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/1778.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Still looking for information on Letitia McCormich Glasgow born Cookstown 1831. Father Samuel Glasgow, gentleman of Cookstown(death certificate of Letitia) She married Robert Brown, Stone mason, emmigrated to Bacchus Marsh, Victoria, Australia, Had two children there, Mary Ann and Thoms McNeice Brown. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Cyndifraser Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/6706.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for your reply and all the great resources and ideas. I just purchased the book you mentioned but haven't had time to sit down and read it. You wrote "There was no "James Bates" but that doesn't necessarily mean that he wasn't in Ireland, just that he wasn't the man responsible for paying tithes on whatever farmland he held (his father or an older brother might have been responsible); or he lived on non-tithed land such as church glebe property. Alternatively, he could have been deceased or had emigrated to another country by the time of the 1820s-1830s tithes. Do you know if Jonathon Kelly's parents or Sarah Bates' parents emigrated to Canada?" One source I found stated that Sarah Bates immigrated with her father, James Bates, and brothers sometime around 1825. But I'm thinking it had to be earlier because she and Jonathan had a child, Maria, in Sept of 1823 in Grenville, Deux Montagner, Quebec, Canada and another, James, in 1825 born in Avoca, Argenteuil, Quebec, Canada I don't think Jonathan's father, Thomas, immigrated. Tried to contact you via Ancestry but it wouldn't let me contact you individually. My email is Fras4@Verizon.net if you care to reply. Thanks, Cyndi Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: anniecrenshaw Surnames: Bates, Batch, Kelly Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.tyr.general/6706.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There are many excellent sources on the Internet with guidelines and suggestions for County Tyrone research, just do a Google search for "County Tyrone" with "research guide" or a similar phrase. John Grenham's "Tracing Your Irish Ancestors" is an excellent guide book, and much of it is paraphrased on this RootsWeb/Ancestry site: www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nirtyr/tyrone-research.htm The Public Record Office of Northern Ireland in Belfast (PRONI) has helpful guidelines for family history on their web site, as does the National Archives of Ireland in Dublin. Remember that Co. Tyrone was once part of all Ireland, so early Dublin/Republic of Ireland records cover what is now Tyrone in Northern Ireland/U.K. You might find your Bates, Kelly and Batch families listed in early Co. Tyrone records such as the Religious Census, 1766 (indexed on Ancestry.com); Spinning Wheel census, 1796 (indexed on Ancestry.com and various Ireland research web sites); the Freeholders lists, 1795-1796 (indexed at PRONI); and the Tithe Applotments, 1823-1838 (Co. Tyrone is included in Ancestry's index and you can also purchase the 6 northern counties tithe index on CD). Since you know "Thomas Kelly" was the father of your ancestor Jonathon Kelly, for example, you can search the Tithe Applotments for the surname KELLY in Co. Tyrone, and you'll find these names indexed among the nearly 400 Kellys of different spellings in Tyrone: Tithe Applotments 1823/24-1837/38 Name / County / Parish / Townland / Date Thomas Kelley Tyrone, Donaghmore, Derryveen 1826 Thos. Kelley Tyrone, Donaghmore, Derryveen 1826 Thomas Kelly Tyrone, Aghaloo, Cronkill 1825 Thomas Kelly Tyrone, Aghaloo, Cronkill 1837 Thomas Kelly Tyrone, Aghaloo, Kilshanagh 1825 Thomas Kelly Tyrone, Aghaloo, Kilshanagh 1837 Thomas Kelly Tyrone, Aghaloo, Knocknaroy 1825 Thomas Kelly Tyrone, Aghaloo, Knocknaroy 1837 Thomas Kelly Tyrone, Cappagh, Ervalee 1827 Thomas Kelly Tyrone, Clogher, Beltany 1825 Thomas Kelly Tyrone, Clogher, Lisnamoghery 1825 Thomas Kelly Tyrone, Clogher, Lurgnaglar 1825 Thomas Kelly Tyrone, Clonoe, Mulinaloghog 1827 Thomas Kelly Tyrone, Donacavey, Tullarush 1827 Thomas Kelly Tyrone, Donacavey, Tyreenan 1827 Thomas Kelly Tyrone, Kilskeery, Lifford 1826 Thomas Kelly Tyrone, Termonamongan, Ardarrow 1826 Thomas Kelly Tyrone, Tullyniskan, Drumey and Woodhill 1826 Thomas, Jr. Kelly Tyrone, Termonamongan, Sleveduff 1826 Thos. Kelly Tyrone, Cappagh, Ervalee 1827 Thos. Kelly Tyrone, Desertcreat, Tullyodonnell 1825 Thos. Kelly Tyrone, Desertcreat, Waterard 1825 Thos. Kelly Tyrone, Termonmaguirk, Aldrummond (Old Glen) 1825 Thos., Jr. Kelly Tyrone, Dromore, Esker 1834 Thos., Sr. Kelly Tyrone, Dromore, Esker 1834 Thos., Sr. Kelly Tyrone, Termonamongan, Sleveduff 1826 ---------------------------------------------------------- Tithe Applotments for the surname BATES in Co. Tyrone: Name / County / Parish / Townland / Date Francis Bates Tyrone, Kildress, Glanarny 1826 John Bates Tyrone, Artrea, Aughrim Bates and Donnelly 1825 Saml. Bates Tyrone, Ardstraw, Newtownstewart (Back St.) 1834 Samuel Bates Tyrone, Derryloran, Gortalowry 1826 Samuel Bates Tyrone, Derryloran, Loy Gardens 1826 Thomas Bates Tyrone, Ardstraw, Cavandoragh 1834 Thomas Bates Tyrone, Artrea, Aughrim Bates and Donnelly 1825 Thos. Bates Tyrone, Desertcreat, Derryhash 1825 William Bates Tyrone, Artrea, Aughrim Bates and Donnelly 1825 Wm. Bates Tyrone, Artrea, Ballinenagh There was no "James Bates" but that doesn't necessarily mean that he wasn't in Ireland, just that he wasn't the man responsible for paying tithes on whatever farmland he held (his father or an older brother might have been responsible); or he lived on non-tithed land such as church glebe property. Alternatively, he could have been deceased or had emigrated to another country by the time of the 1820s-1830s tithes. Do you know if Jonathon Kelly's parents or Sarah Bates' parents emigrated to Canada? ---------------------------------------------------------- There were no surnames resembling "Batch" in the Tithes index but that may have been a phonetic spelling of another name. ---------------------------------------------------------- PRONI has microfilms of many Co. Tyrone Presbyterian church registers, but you'd have to get an idea of your ancestor's parish and townland or village location to see what churches they might have attended in their area. I'd suggest trying to trace the Presbyterian BATES family and find a KELLY family living in the same parish and townland in the Freeholders and Tithes records. Then go to PRONI's Presbyterian church records index and see if the pertinent parish or parishes has been microfilmed. A professional researcher or research company in Belfast/Northern Ireland can then search the church registers for a fee, if you have funds to spend on genealogy. Or you might find a helping-hands volunteer on one of the Irish forums who'd do a look-up for you. I'll be glad to help further if you want to write me directly. Regards, Annie Crenshaw Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.