You are saying Them was it more than one child?? I wondered if perhaps he belonged to a member of the family like an elder sister and who he thought were his parents were actually his grandparents This is not uncommon Patricia New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of KPagape@aol.com Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 3:30 PM To: nir-down@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] I need to pick your brains=off topic In a message dated 12/5/2007 3:30:28 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, mikejboyd@bigpond.com writes: I assume that you and your husband have looked at "stolen" children Police reports for that period. You may need to look for a year or two either side of his known birthday. If he was stolen, what benefit would his "new" parents get from stealing him. Is there "Government" paper work his new parent would have had to fill out to get that benefit, etc. My husband and I have kidded through the years that we were going to keep checking every milk carton that we get to see if we find his picture. I have looked for newspaper articles to see if maybe that is what happened, but have not found anything. The only "government" paperwork would be the "Foster parents program" and that would give them a monthly payment from the county for taking care of them. They didn't file anything like that with the County Government. They didn't do anything (not even report them) They just wanted kept them and changed their names and treated them very poorly. regards, Kathy **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This was very common in any era or place where it was shameful to have a child out of wedlock. Whoever was in best position in the family to raise a new child would take him. Sometimes they would move out of town for the crucial months. Although it's interesting that his interests and personality are so different from the rest of the family. Talk to the neighbors or the church ladies' children or anyone who would have been in a position to know what was happening. Old family friends or their children. Teachers. Parole officers. LOL Diane Hettrick, dhettrick@earthlink.net May you ask the right question of the right person at the right time. On Dec 5, 2007, at 6:58 PM, Patricia Moosman wrote: > You are saying Them was it more than one child?? > I wondered if perhaps he belonged to a member of the family like an > elder > sister and who he thought were his parents were actually his > grandparents > This is not uncommon > > Patricia > New Zealand >

I must have missed something with this discussion - I can't recall reading about children being taken or stolen. However on the matter of adoption, I recently had an experience in relation to adoption records - I requested a b/c for a birth in 1901 and was told it couldn't be provided as it involved adoption. Odd thing was if I provided the post adoption name of the child and adoptive parents I could have a post adoption certificate without a problem. As a result we have discovered this person was born illegitimately and her mother gave her to her sister and brother-in-law. They adopted her formally - however when she was 3 her mother married and took her back - no re-adoption took place. This person grew up as a "P" believing her step father to be her birth father and used this surname throughout her adult life. It was only when she went to get her own birth certificate in preparation for her marriage in 1927 she learned the truth. She never spoke to her parents again. Her aunt who adopted her was apparently devastated when her mother recalimed her. This has answered so many puzzles surrounding why family members had no contact - it has filled a gap but we have had to handle the details with great sensitivity. I guess you could look at this case as a formal "in family adoption" Lyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Moosman" <pat.moosman@clear.net.nz> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] I need to pick your brains=off topic > You are saying Them was it more than one child?? > I wondered if perhaps he belonged to a member of the family like an elder > sister and who he thought were his parents were actually his grandparents > This is not uncommon > > Patricia > New Zealand > > -----Original Message----- > From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of KPagape@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 3:30 PM > To: nir-down@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] I need to pick your brains=off topic > > > > In a message dated 12/5/2007 3:30:28 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > mikejboyd@bigpond.com writes: > > I assume that you and your husband have looked at "stolen" children > Police > reports for that period. You may need to look for a year or two either > side > > of his known birthday. > > If he was stolen, what benefit would his "new" parents get from stealing > him. > > Is there "Government" paper work his new parent would have had to fill > out > to get that benefit, etc. > > > > My husband and I have kidded through the years that we were going to keep > checking every milk carton that we get to see if we find his picture. I > have > looked for newspaper articles to see if maybe that is what happened, but > have > not found anything. The only "government" paperwork would be the "Foster > parents program" and that would give them a monthly payment from the > county > for > taking care of them. They didn't file anything like that with the County > Government. They didn't do anything (not even report them) > They just wanted kept them and changed their names and treated them very > poorly. > > regards, > Kathy > > > > > **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's > hottest > > products. > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message