Hi I am not even sure if this is a sensible question but I had this thought so will ask. I know my 3x gr grandfather James Rooney (or Roney) was buried in Egremont in 1880 when his age was given as 45. He is on the 61 and 71 census in Egremont, Cumberland when his birth place was given as Ireland, as were the births of his wife Elizabeth nee Taylor and his daughters Leticia and Rosannah in 1848 and 1850, his younger children being born in Egremont. There is a marriage for him and Elizabeth on the IGI for 1853 in Egremont and we have a solicitors letter dated 1953 that his daughters births were legitimised in January 1927 with the introduction of the Illegitimacy Act. I do know that within my Rooney family that I have just got in contact with, there is also his Orange Order sash that is now so faded that even if there had been any writing on it, it is now ileligable. As I am struggling to find his place of birth I am clutching at straws when I ask if there is any possibility of his Orange Lodge being in Cumberland? To compound my research he was obviously a Protestant, one of his daughters a devout Catholic and one of his sons was a Methodist. I am hoping sks can point me in the right direction as another question I have is, are the members lists for Orange Lodges of that period open to the public or are they still confidential? I have also put this on the google message board for Cumberland, although I do realize that I am clutching at straws. Thank you for your time. Regards Lin

I am also interested in the answer to this question, Lin, as I too have an old Orange Order Sash, the owner was also high up in the Masonic Lodge. And I also wonder where there may be information... Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "linda chapman" <linda_chapman4@btinternet.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] NIR-DOWN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 58 > Hi > > I am not even sure if this is a sensible question but I had this thought > so will ask. > > I > know my 3x gr grandfather James Rooney (or Roney) was buried in > Egremont in 1880 when his age was given as 45. He is on the 61 and 71 > census in Egremont, Cumberland when his birth place was given as Ireland, > as were > the births of his wife Elizabeth nee Taylor and his daughters Leticia > and Rosannah in 1848 and 1850, his younger children being born in > Egremont. There is a marriage for him and > Elizabeth on the IGI for 1853 in Egremont and we have a solicitors > letter dated 1953 that his daughters births were legitimised in January > 1927 with the introduction of the Illegitimacy Act. > > I do know > that within my Rooney family that I have just got in contact with, there > is also his Orange Order sash that is now so faded that even if there > had been any writing on it, it is now ileligable. As I am struggling > to find his place of birth I am clutching at straws when I ask if there > is any possibility of his Orange Lodge being in Cumberland? > > To > compound my research he was obviously a Protestant, one of his > daughters a devout Catholic and one of his sons was a Methodist. > > I am hoping sks can point me in the right direction as another question I > have is, are the members lists for Orange Lodges of that period open to > the public or are they still confidential? > > I have also put this on the google message board for Cumberland, although > I do realize that I am clutching at straws. > > Thank you for your time. > > Regards > > Lin > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Linda, This website may offer some insight: www.grandorangelodge.co.uk Best Wishes, Roxanne linda chapman wrote: >Hi > >I am not even sure if this is a sensible question but I had this thought so will ask. > >I >know my 3x gr grandfather James Rooney (or Roney) was buried in >Egremont in 1880 when his age was given as 45. He is on the 61 and 71 >census in Egremont, Cumberland when his birth place was given as Ireland, as were >the births of his wife Elizabeth nee Taylor and his daughters Leticia >and Rosannah in 1848 and 1850, his younger children being born in Egremont. There is a marriage for him and >Elizabeth on the IGI for 1853 in Egremont and we have a solicitors >letter dated 1953 that his daughters births were legitimised in January >1927 with the introduction of the Illegitimacy Act. > >I do know >that within my Rooney family that I have just got in contact with, there >is also his Orange Order sash that is now so faded that even if there >had been any writing on it, it is now ileligable. As I am struggling >to find his place of birth I am clutching at straws when I ask if there >is any possibility of his Orange Lodge being in Cumberland? > >To >compound my research he was obviously a Protestant, one of his >daughters a devout Catholic and one of his sons was a Methodist. > >I am hoping sks can point me in the right direction as another question I have is, are the members lists for Orange Lodges of that period open to the public or are they still confidential? > >I have also put this on the google message board for Cumberland, although I do realize that I am clutching at straws. > >Thank you for your time. > >Regards > >Lin > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

I have no information on them but there were several several Orange Lodges in Cumbria. There is some information on them in Donald M. MacRaild's book Culture, Conflict and Migration: The Irish in Victorian Cumbria. I cannot locate my copy at the momen or I would look the subject up for you. regards Michael Burns Roxanne Neel <roxanne4mastiffs@verizon.net> wrote: Linda, This website may offer some insight: www.grandorangelodge.co.uk Best Wishes, Roxanne linda chapman wrote: >Hi > >I am not even sure if this is a sensible question but I had this thought so will ask. > >I >know my 3x gr grandfather James Rooney (or Roney) was buried in >Egremont in 1880 when his age was given as 45. He is on the 61 and 71 >census in Egremont, Cumberland when his birth place was given as Ireland, as were >the births of his wife Elizabeth nee Taylor and his daughters Leticia >and Rosannah in 1848 and 1850, his younger children being born in Egremont. There is a marriage for him and >Elizabeth on the IGI for 1853 in Egremont and we have a solicitors >letter dated 1953 that his daughters births were legitimised in January >1927 with the introduction of the Illegitimacy Act. > >I do know >that within my Rooney family that I have just got in contact with, there >is also his Orange Order sash that is now so faded that even if there >had been any writing on it, it is now ileligable. As I am struggling >to find his place of birth I am clutching at straws when I ask if there >is any possibility of his Orange Lodge being in Cumberland? > >To >compound my research he was obviously a Protestant, one of his >daughters a devout Catholic and one of his sons was a Methodist. > >I am hoping sks can point me in the right direction as another question I have is, are the members lists for Orange Lodges of that period open to the public or are they still confidential? > >I have also put this on the google message board for Cumberland, although I do realize that I am clutching at straws. > >Thank you for your time. > >Regards > >Lin > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message