A James Mournian was listed in the 1901 Census for Kilkeel, Greencastle. The name is also spelled Mornian, Mornian and Murnin, Mourname, etc. No Mournians were listed in Griffith's for Kilkeel and likely James was from somewhere else. The name was not listed in Bassett's Kilkeel directory for 1886 though it is not comprehensive. Ros Davies and caora.net have Murnins, etc. listed in various places. ----- Original Message ----- From: "conaught2" <conaught2@charter.net> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com>; "the_researcher" <the_researcher@raymondscountydownwebsite.com> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Ancestor research, County Down Mournian surname Hi Tony, You probably have learned that the Irish have several variations in spelling for the same name. Mournian phonetically sounds like Mournane which is found in the Griffith's Valuation in Counties Tipperary and Kerry (4). Originally when I read your name I thought of Marmion which is found in County Down and several other counties. Marnane also is pretty close phonetically to Mournian. Do you have any indication from what area of County Down Robert Mournian came from? You peaked my interest when you mentioned the few places where the name is found so I googled and found your post about Robert in California. I'm in northern California. Beannachtai, Margaret (Máiread) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Hugh and Tony - The James Mournian Hugh referred to in his post is the grandfather of Oisen Murnion currently of Kilkeel. My family also goes back to Mournian from County Down & Tony & I have been in touch for some years. The problem we have is not in tracking the variations of the surname, but rather, trying to connect his (Tony's) Mournians to any of the families we have found. Because of the early date that Robert Mournien went to California (approx. 1849) it has proven difficult to find any records. We are hoping, however, that will change before too long as more and more records become available. My grandmother was Annie Marie Mournian whose ancestors originated from Ballyculter area, per a church record - and the name in that 1836 record was Murnan. In the interim, they were in Cumberland & Durham ENG and Hamilton/Cambusnethan SCT. We have proven the family in those areas, and are in touch with various individuals who have been key in providing us with not only family connections, but also with photos of some ancestors. We have not yet proven a connection to Oisen's Murnions either, however, the researchers involved are of the opinion that we will get there at some point as the name is not especially common and many of the family stories match ours. So, I'll be posting my Mournian line as soon as I get the page done for Raymond's County Down Web Site, and you will all see where we have come so far. Any assistance at all in connecting our line to Tony's or Oisen's would be greatly appreciated by all of us! Thanks. Grit grit@raymondscountydownwebsite Hugh Macartney <hhmacartney@shaw.ca> wrote: A James Mournian was listed in the 1901 Census for Kilkeel, Greencastle. The name is also spelled Mornian, Mornian and Murnin, Mourname, etc. No Mournians were listed in Griffith's for Kilkeel and likely James was from somewhere else. The name was not listed in Bassett's Kilkeel directory for 1886 though it is not comprehensive. Ros Davies and caora.net have Murnins, etc. listed in various places. ----- Original Message ----- From: "conaught2" To: ; "the_researcher" Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Ancestor research, County Down Mournian surname Hi Tony, You probably have learned that the Irish have several variations in spelling for the same name. Mournian phonetically sounds like Mournane which is found in the Griffith's Valuation in Counties Tipperary and Kerry (4). Originally when I read your name I thought of Marmion which is found in County Down and several other counties. Marnane also is pretty close phonetically to Mournian. Do you have any indication from what area of County Down Robert Mournian came from? You peaked my interest when you mentioned the few places where the name is found so I googled and found your post about Robert in California. I'm in northern California. Beannachtai, Margaret (Máiread) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a long shot, but would any one have any information on Newry School, and Dr. Lyons? John Kells Ingram was possibly educated there, and also Patrick Alfred Jennings (Premier NSW). It may have been on Corry Square, but there was also a Lyons Academy at no. 1 Hill St., where there was an Edward Lyons M.A. who was a Protestant in 1836. I think I am looking for a Catholic school specifically called Newry School, but cannot be sure. I need help in identifying the school, and whether there is any information out there about it, or any records anywhere. I have googled it without success. I realise this is very vague, but would greatly appreciate any help. Nicola Jennings