Not quite sure how the Landowner gave out the leases to the Undertakers. I know with Colonel David Boyd who was a natural son of the 5th Lord Boyd, that he got 1,000 acres on the Ards Peninsular in which townland were named but I have not had time to read my CD on the Montgomery Manuscripts. I can only assume that some fee was paid or rent. I know that Viscount Montgomery had some standing army of about 1,000 men so part of his fee may have been to run this for Viscount Montgomery. So other Undertakers may have done other tasks to rebuilding that part of County Down. Colonel David Boyd came form Tourgill which is about 6 kms NE of Largs. Will Viscount Montgomery also came form north Ayrshire, so one can only assume that they both knew each other in Ayrshire before coming to County Down. Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Guler" <mlmguler@yahoo.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Question about land ownership > Thanks, Mike. So could one assume that if one were an undertaker leasor > of several hundred acres, one had the means to acquire such a lease,, or > at least had some means and some favor with the nobility holding the land? > l would think that if one came over from Scotland at that time, that they > would have had to have been of some means at the time they came...... > > I have just placed a purchase order for the first two books previously > referenced, written by David Dobson, in the hopes of finding information > about Russell ancestors listed. > > Your insight is greatly appreciated. > Mary > > Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: > Mary > My lay understanding is that you could and often did have four levels of > for > land occupation. > > After 1609 you had the noblity being given large area of land. > They in turn leased to Undertakers area of several hundred acres > Who in term had tennant farmers > They may have even subtennants > > Then in the early 1900 under a British Act of Parliament, these land > owners > had to sell the land to their tennants. I do not know what the conditions > where, but I think it had to do with those who had been in long term > rents. > > Hopefully that will give you an idea > > Mike boyd > Brisbane > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Guler" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 12:39 AM > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Question about land ownership > > >> Is there anyone who can help me understand about land ownership post >> Battle of the Boyne (and even into today) in County Down? >> >> My family, Russell, seemed to have land that was part of the Kilmorey >> estate, which they rented out to others. Some (?all) of that land is >> still in the hands of family members. How did they come to be in >> possession of the land? Was it purchased from the Kilmorey Estate? Was >> it a gift? Why is it still referred to as Kilmorey Estate? >> >> Thanks in advance! >> Mary >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! >> Search. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message