Yes, I have run into this as well. Turns out, from someone researching for us that if the marriage was annulled, and the woman re-married, and her children were baptized in the RC church their baptism was listed as "illegitimate" even though they were married when the children were born...and this continued through 4 sons and one daughter they had together, the last born in the US was not so listed. the notation on the bottom has this: Misc 10 0 ILLEGITIMATE MGR MOTHER'S SURNAME ALSO ENTERED IN THE REGISTER AS MURPHY. anyone know what a MGR is? out 2x's Great Grandmother was listed under her previous married name (Shaw) (which lasted -it looks like -less than a year) AND her maiden name Murphy. This has been plaguing us a very long time. Anyone have any ideas on where I could look further? Brigitte Pssheila@aol.com wrote: I agree with Wendy on this one - I have seen numerous baptism records where the child has been given the fathers name but has been recorded as being illegitimate because the parents were not legitimately married. Both parents names are recorded and the child was recorded in the fathers name. I know of a few, also, where only the mothers name is recorded but the child was recorded in the fathers name!! Sheila ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Brigitte brigitte@marmionfamilytree.com www.marmionfamilytree.com

My grandmother was illegitimate. She was born in 1867. Her mother registered her under her name only but she was baptised in the Church of Ireland and her father's name was put on the baptism record. I don't think she ever knew her father's name. I discovered it by chance. She was always known by her mother's maiden name. RosemaryJoan ----- Original Message ----- From: "B Marmion" <info@marmionfamilytree.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] illegitimate birth registrations > Yes, I have run into this as well. Turns out, from someone researching for > us that if the marriage was annulled, and the woman re-married, and her > children were baptized in the RC church their baptism was listed as > "illegitimate" even though they were married when the children were > born...and this continued through 4 sons and one daughter they had > together, the last born in the US was not so listed. > the notation on the bottom has this: > Misc 10 0 ILLEGITIMATE MGR MOTHER'S > SURNAME ALSO ENTERED IN THE REGISTER AS MURPHY. > anyone know what a MGR is? > out 2x's Great Grandmother was listed under her previous married name > (Shaw) (which lasted -it looks like -less than a year) AND her maiden name > Murphy. > This has been plaguing us a very long time. > Anyone have any ideas on where I could look further? > Brigitte > > Pssheila@aol.com wrote: > I agree with Wendy on this one - I have seen numerous baptism records > where > the child has been given the fathers name but has been recorded as being > illegitimate because the parents were not legitimately married. Both > parents > names are recorded and the child was recorded in the fathers name. I know > of a > few, also, where only the mothers name is recorded but the child was > recorded > in the fathers name!! > > Sheila > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Brigitte > brigitte@marmionfamilytree.com > www.marmionfamilytree.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message