Reference note from Eric below I sense a great deal of frustration in this message and therefore, will allow Eric a degree of lattitude in his comments on a "contry full of horse traders". I am confident that when he reflects on these remarks he will, perhaps, feel a little ashamed. The suggestion that Americans and Canadians operate more sophisticated or (honest) processes and that this is not the case in Ireland, is really not an accurate reflection of reality.Or fair! Perhaps Eric, and those that nod in sympathy with his sentiments, should consider the relative size and resources at the disposal of a small country like Ireland. It was not so long ago that people were leaving those shores for the Americas because they were starving......they did not leave with much ... a name ...language, culture and some memories...my experience over the years has shown that the majority who travelled to the Americas did not leave their humility and good manners in Ireland. It is extremely irritating to learn that some of their children have forgotten the good manners and humility of their hungry ancestors. My people left Ireland 150 years ago and we all agree that this type of remark has no place on this site.... or any other..... Eric the forum await your unreserved apology. Slan go Foill Paul Giffnock Scotland Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:23:28 -0800 > From: "E Macklin" <emacklin@rogers.com> > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Graveyards in County DOWN. > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <001401c8706c$d45d1cb0$3d6eef63@IBM4084C04947B> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Fiona: > > I just said that UHF as compared to Irish Tombstones was the lesser of > two evils [or weevils]. As you know from your years of experience that > Genealogy anywhere in Ireland is a "cottage industry" ..... and like a > country full of horse traders from all calls and walks of life some horses > are better than others and for the most part it comes with buyer remorse > ...... that's why Americans look after the Passenger Lists and why Canadians > became involved with our National Archives section and arranged to have the > 1901 Irish Census digitized ... a process that was to have been completed by > Dec of last year, but because a few horses assess got in the way down Dublin > way, it won't be finished until 2009... the ubiquitous call for "more money" > to turn a simple project into a "national hobby" because once it is > completed it'll be free much to the general annoyance of a great many > ......... when that is done and the UHF have their new premises then maybe > I'll think of going back ..... right now the place over there is a mess > [still] ..... if anyone is looking for real assistance I suggest the myriad > local and small town libraries ... some of the Directors of the UHF are real > good folks, many of them professionals and the only ones as result getting > Govn't money to improve things, so my bet is on them so lets give them > another year and see what happens ... so save your money for the time being > ..... "one more river to Belfast" > > Slan > Eric