I have only noticed MGR on Catholic marriages and have always assumed that it means 'Monsignor' - a title given to certain Catholic priests. See Collins English Dictionary. RosemaryJoan----- Original Message ----- From: "Fiona Jones" <mourneminers@optonline.net> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] illegitimate birth registrations > MGR - I too have seen "MGR" added to records obtained from UHF > (ancestryireland) I have always taken it to mean that the ManaGeR had > added > a note to the record. I have emailed UHF to clarify these references but > I > have never received a response. I have seen it used to add a variety of > notes as in the example below: > > Field Value > Parish/ District KILKEEL > Date Of Birth 10/01/1842 > Date of Baptism 10/01/1842 > First name ELIZABETH ANNE > Surname DOYLE > Sex Female > Denomination Roman Catholic > Fathers Firstname > Fathers Surname DOYLE > Street > Townland Upper Mourne > Town Newry and Mourne > County CO Down > Misc > E [ELIZABETH = BESSY] MGR TWIN OF PETER REG 1A P 12 ENTRY NO 17. > > Fiona. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Hugh Macartney > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:12 PM > To: nir-down@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] illegitimate birth registrations > > Maternal Grand Mother ? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "B Marmion" <info@marmionfamilytree.com> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:34 AM > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] illegitimate birth registrations > > >> Yes, I have run into this as well. Turns out, from someone researching >> for > >> us that if the marriage was annulled, and the woman re-married, and her >> children were baptized in the RC church their baptism was listed as >> "illegitimate" even though they were married when the children were >> born...and this continued through 4 sons and one daughter they had >> together, the last born in the US was not so listed. >> the notation on the bottom has this: >> Misc 10 0 ILLEGITIMATE MGR MOTHER'S >> SURNAME ALSO ENTERED IN THE REGISTER AS MURPHY. >> anyone know what a MGR is? >> out 2x's Great Grandmother was listed under her previous married name >> (Shaw) (which lasted -it looks like -less than a year) AND her maiden >> name > >> Murphy. >> This has been plaguing us a very long time. >> Anyone have any ideas on where I could look further? >> Brigitte >> >> Pssheila@aol.com wrote: >> I agree with Wendy on this one - I have seen numerous baptism records >> where >> the child has been given the fathers name but has been recorded as being >> illegitimate because the parents were not legitimately married. Both >> parents >> names are recorded and the child was recorded in the fathers name. I know >> of a >> few, also, where only the mothers name is recorded but the child was >> recorded >> in the fathers name!! >> >> Sheila >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> Brigitte >> brigitte@marmionfamilytree.com >> www.marmionfamilytree.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message