THANK YOU HUGH! this marriage info answers quite alot of questions...did this practice continue into the early 1800's as well? Hugh Macartney <hhmacartney@shaw.ca> wrote: There are a lot of pitfalls in Irish names which were anglicised to a great extent. Dromore/Drumore/Drimore meant great ridge in Irish and there are about 24000 townland, towns and villages in Ireland which begin with variatins of drom, etc. There is the town of Dromore which is between Banbridge and Lisburn but also a townland in Warrenpoint with the same name. In the 18th.C there were large waves of emigration either due to crop failures, rack rents or to heavy taxes placed by England on Irish woollen goods. Another major factor was the Test Act which was used to place loyal Presbyterian on the same level of disability with the Roman Catholics. Presbyterian ministers were turned out of their pulpits or threatened. Since they no longer had official standing marriages they performed were not legal. Presbyterians had to choose between their office or their conscience. Presbyterian disenters could not teach school. The children of all Protestants not married in the Established Church were regarded as bastards and many Presbyterians were even prosecuted in the bishops' courts as fornicators for cohabiting with their own wives. This religious persecution was for many the last straw and people were easily persuaded to go to America. In 1717 crops were ruined by drought for the fourth year in a row and ships were charted, groups were organised and property sold. There were more waves of emigration in 1717-18, 1725-9, 1740-41, 1754-55 and 1771-75 from the North of Ireland. The result of this was that when the American Revolution began there were no more ardent people wishing to throw off England's yoke than the Ulster-Scot Presbyterians and these tough, hardy men formed at least a third of George Washington's army. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Boyd" To: Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:17 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] DRUMORE Townshpi, Lancaster Co., PA is based on DROMORE,COUNTY DOWN, NIR > >From the Boyd list there was this little bit of information > > "Since they misspelled the name you may have missed this, but did you know > that DRUMORE Township is based on DROMORE, COUNTY DOWN, NIR ?? > > Drumore Township is an original township in 1729. > > What's got Boyd implications is that you have three Donegal townships > (Raphoe, Donegal, Bart); one Derry township (Colerain); and one Down > township > (Dromore). > > I wonder who brought over the County Down place name. Do we have a Boyd > family near there in Ireland?" > > However, in 1729 Drumore would have been in Chester County, PA in eastern > PA > on the border with Maryland. > > Does anyone on this list know of this migration in 1729 of people from > Dromore? > > Save this weblink (especially if you deal with Lancaster County) and you > have my source: > _http://www.lancasterhistory.org/research/databases/townshipmap.html_ > (http://www.lancasterhistory.org/research/databases/townshipmap.html) > > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Brigitte brigitte@marmionfamilytree.com www.marmionfamilytree.com

It must have been very difficult for the Presbyterians as we have oral family history that tells of our Johnston family being forced to become C of I in Ireland, but when it came to baptisms, marriages, etc. they actually went back to Scotland to have a second and Presbyterian ceremony performed. When I first came across this story I was amazed and somewhat in disbelief; however, when the story came from a distant second and a third source it made a believer out of me. Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "B Marmion" <info@marmionfamilytree.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] DRUMORE Townshpi, Lancaster Co.,PA is based on DROMORE, COUNTY DOWN, NIR > THANK YOU HUGH! > this marriage info answers quite alot of questions...did this practice > continue into the early 1800's as well? > > Hugh Macartney <hhmacartney@shaw.ca> wrote: > There are a lot of pitfalls in Irish names which were anglicised to a > great > extent. Dromore/Drumore/Drimore meant great ridge in Irish and there are > about 24000 townland, towns and villages in Ireland which begin with > variatins of drom, etc. There is the town of Dromore which is between > Banbridge and Lisburn but also a townland in Warrenpoint with the same > name. > In the 18th.C there were large waves of emigration either due to crop > failures, rack rents or to heavy taxes placed by England on Irish woollen > goods. Another major factor was the Test Act which was used to place loyal > Presbyterian on the same level of disability with the Roman Catholics. > Presbyterian ministers were turned out of their pulpits or threatened. > Since > they no longer had official standing marriages they performed were not > legal. Presbyterians had to choose between their office or their > conscience. > Presbyterian disenters could not teach school. The children of all > Protestants not married in the Established Church were regarded as > bastards > and many Presbyterians were even prosecuted in the bishops' courts as > fornicators for cohabiting with their own wives. This religious > persecution > was for many the last straw and people were easily persuaded to go to > America. In 1717 crops were ruined by drought for the fourth year in a row > and ships were charted, groups were organised and property sold. There > were > more waves of emigration in 1717-18, 1725-9, 1740-41, 1754-55 and 1771-75 > from the North of Ireland. The result of this was that when the American > Revolution began there were no more ardent people wishing to throw off > England's yoke than the Ulster-Scot Presbyterians and these tough, hardy > men > formed at least a third of George Washington's army. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Boyd" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:17 PM > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] DRUMORE Townshpi, Lancaster Co., PA is based on > DROMORE,COUNTY DOWN, NIR > > >> >From the Boyd list there was this little bit of information >> >> "Since they misspelled the name you may have missed this, but did you >> know >> that DRUMORE Township is based on DROMORE, COUNTY DOWN, NIR ?? >> >> Drumore Township is an original township in 1729. >> >> What's got Boyd implications is that you have three Donegal townships >> (Raphoe, Donegal, Bart); one Derry township (Colerain); and one Down >> township >> (Dromore). >> >> I wonder who brought over the County Down place name. Do we have a Boyd >> family near there in Ireland?" >> >> However, in 1729 Drumore would have been in Chester County, PA in eastern >> PA >> on the border with Maryland. >> >> Does anyone on this list know of this migration in 1729 of people from >> Dromore? >> >> Save this weblink (especially if you deal with Lancaster County) and you >> have my source: >> _http://www.lancasterhistory.org/research/databases/townshipmap.html_ >> (http://www.lancasterhistory.org/research/databases/townshipmap.html) >> >> >> Mike Boyd >> Brisbane >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Brigitte > brigitte@marmionfamilytree.com > www.marmionfamilytree.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message