Don't I wish I were young - I am 66. Maybe my problem is that I live in America where I have always been able to choose where I worship. Linda -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: WLCHAPPELL@aol.com > Linda - you don't sound dumb - just young - and with hope for us all! . If > you have grandparents of any denomination - ask them or an ancient neighbor - > to TRY to explain > it to you. > > Isabella > > > In a message dated 2/11/2008 2:23:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > bev@denmarkwa.com.au writes: > > In message <021120082202.11120.47B0C6050006E6F300002B702205884484970A0 > 40401080604@comcast.net> > ljholley@comcast.net (Linda Holley) wrote: > Don't know if you saw Billy Connolly's tour of Ireland but he said > that there was a brick wall in the ground dividing the protestants and > catholics in the cemetery in Belfast. As he said 'What did they think > they were going to do? And Chrisianity was the common religion! > Bev > > I know this may sound extremely dumb on my part but what vast > > differences were there in the two religions that would have made > > someone think they needed to have a second ceremony? > > > Linda > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > From: "Cliff. Johnston" <moments-in-time@comcast.net> > >> It must have been very difficult for the Presbyterians as we have oral > >> family history that tells of our Johnston family being forced to become C > of > >> I in Ireland, but when it came to baptisms, marriages, etc. they actually > >> went back to Scotland to have a second and Presbyterian ceremony > performed. > >> When I first came across this story I was amazed and somewhat in > disbelief; > >> however, when the story came from a distant second and a third source it > >> made a believer out of me. > >> > >> Cliff. Johnston > >> "May the best you've ever seen, > >> Be the worst you'll ever see;" > >> from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "B Marmion" <info@marmionfamilytree.com> > >> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 1:15 PM > >> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] DRUMORE Townshpi, Lancaster Co.,PA is based on > >> DROMORE, COUNTY DOWN, NIR > >> > >> > >>> THANK YOU HUGH! > >>> this marriage info answers quite alot of questions...did this practice > >>> continue into the early 1800's as well? > >>> > >>> Hugh Macartney <hhmacartney@shaw.ca> wrote: > >>> There are a lot of pitfalls in Irish names which were anglicised to a > >>> great > >>> extent. Dromore/Drumore/Drimore meant great ridge in Irish and there are > >>> about 24000 townland, towns and villages in Ireland which begin with > >>> variatins of drom, etc. There is the town of Dromore which is between > >>> Banbridge and Lisburn but also a townland in Warrenpoint with the same > >>> name. > >>> In the 18th.C there were large waves of emigration either due to crop > >>> failures, rack rents or to heavy taxes placed by England on Irish woollen > >>> goods. Another major factor was the Test Act which was used to place > loyal > >>> Presbyterian on the same level of disability with the Roman Catholics. > >>> Presbyterian ministers were turned out of their pulpits or threatened. > >>> Since > >>> they no longer had official standing marriages they performed were not > >>> legal. Presbyterians had to choose between their office or their > >>> conscience. > >>> Presbyterian disenters could not teach school. The children of all > >>> Protestants not married in the Established Church were regarded as > >>> bastards > >>> and many Presbyterians were even prosecuted in the bishops' courts as > >>> fornicators for cohabiting with their own wives. This religious > >>> persecution > >>> was for many the last straw and people were easily persuaded to go to > >>> America. In 1717 crops were ruined by drought for the fourth year in a > row > >>> and ships were charted, groups were organised and property sold. There > >>> were > >>> more waves of emigration in 1717-18, 1725-9, 1740-41, 1754-55 and 1771-75 > >>> from the North of Ireland. The result of this was that when the American > >>> Revolution began there were no more ardent people wishing to throw off > >>> England's yoke than the Ulster-Scot Presbyterians and these tough, hardy > >>> men > >>> formed at least a third of George Washington's army. > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Mike Boyd" > >>> To: > >>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:17 PM > >>> Subject: [NIR-DOWN] DRUMORE Townshpi, Lancaster Co., PA is based on > >>> DROMORE,COUNTY DOWN, NIR > >>> > >>> > >>>>>From the Boyd list there was this little bit of information > >>>> > >>>> "Since they misspelled the name you may have missed this, but did you > >>>> know > >>>> that DRUMORE Township is based on DROMORE, COUNTY DOWN, NIR ?? > >>>> > >>>> Drumore Township is an original township in 1729. > >>>> > >>>> What's got Boyd implications is that you have three Donegal townships > >>>> (Raphoe, Donegal, Bart); one Derry township (Colerain); and one Down > >>>> township > >>>> (Dromore). > >>>> > >>>> I wonder who brought over the County Down place name. Do we have a Boyd > >>>> family near there in Ireland?" > >>>> > >>>> However, in 1729 Drumore would have been in Chester County, PA in > eastern > >>>> PA > >>>> on the border with Maryland. > >>>> > >>>> Does anyone on this list know of this migration in 1729 of people from > >>>> Dromore? > >>>> > >>>> Save this weblink (especially if you deal with Lancaster County) and you > >>>> have my source: > >>>> _http://www.lancasterhistory.org/research/databases/townshipmap.html_ > >>>> (http://www.lancasterhistory.org/research/databases/townshipmap.html) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Mike Boyd > >>>> Brisbane > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Brigitte > >>> brigitte@marmionfamilytree.com > >>> www.marmionfamilytree.com > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in > >> the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > Bev McGuinness, > Cinnamon Coloureds Farmstay, RMB 1017 DENMARK WA 6333 > Tel: +61 8 9848 1781 Fax: +61 8 9848 1231 > Web: http://www.denmarkwa.com.au/cc/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and > the body of the message > > > > > > **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy > Awards. 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