Diane/Michelle With this "new" information set it out as an "unproved" family as a separate section from the "proved" family of Matthew Rice. This will help you to build "evidence" to confirm if this family is connected. You second point about the Brother being in the 1st Bn of the Rifle Brigade. You may need to contact the Public Records Office to find their Muster Roll for that period. During WWII some of the Old Army records were destroyed - I think by bombing - so lets hope it was not these records. Or you may like to join the [email protected] Net list for short time to ask its members how you may go about find this brothers name. Some of their members would have more specific knowledge about these records than I do. Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Hettrick" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 8:29 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Rice <Michelle is having technical difficulties, hence the blank messages. I'm posting this for her in the interim - Diane> Hi List I am on annual leave here in hot Western Australia and finally trying to continue with research. I had some information from Owen Davey re the Rices and also on Ros Davies website which lead me to Bridget Brennan. What I am not clear on - I am only assuming these Rices are also mine. There is no definite something to say YES! My Matthew Rice was born Ballynahinch and baptised Loughinisland RC Church on 7.5.1818. I found others baptised similar time at same place all with dad John. Assume they are siblings. They were John Rice c1806, William Rice c1808, James Rice c1810, Frances Rice c1815 and then of course Matthew. This dad John is possibly sibling to James, Philip, Edward, Peter and Ann, all with parents James Rice and Margaret Grimes who were married around 1788. All born Loughinisland. Is it ok to assume but be not sure, to claim this family? I would really like to know definitely but is this something that eventually happens when researching? Do you just make a note in files not verified or something? Matthew Rice joined the military on 20.10.1834 supposedly 18 years (that would mean 1816 born). He joined 74rgt, then transferred to 1st battn, rifle brigade to serve with brother. He served 21 years. He married in England and after a number of wars and discharge from military, came out to WA. I am thinking if I find out the brother's name in the military then I can confirm at least Owen's info. Any ideas? Cheers Michelle Roberts (nee Rice) --------------------------------- 469 list members as of 8 Jan 2009 --------------------------------- Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message