Well Sharon it seems to me that you're looking at a time frame of roughly 1788 to about 1850 for Lieutenant John Martin's Naval service - the First Fleet arrived at Port Jackson in January 1788 then afterwards, there was steady visits with the arrival of more convicts ships and Royal Navy vessels. Lieutenant John Martin could either have been part of the First Fleet or a member of the crew of later arrivals. In any case it seems to me his naval career would fall somewhere within those years, 1788 to 1850 - if he visited Port Jackson as seems likely, you can be sure that. Having established that it would/should make a search for his service papers fall within those limits. Good luck with your searches, James. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Sharon Oddie Brown Sent: 31 January 2009 02:55 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Ringfad - 1841 Sundial Dear James, William and Anton, Thank you all for your suggestions. I have looked through the ADM (admiralty) and WO records as well as the Naval wills section and found nothing that looked like a likely fit - or else (in the case of the Naval wills) there were too many documents that would have to be purchased in order to see if there is a match. I think I will wait until I have a few more longitudes and latitudes for him genealogy-wise. Once I can winnow it down a little, then the search is likely to be productive. Again, Thank you! Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl --------------------------------- 469 list members as of 8 Jan 2009 - hopefully at least one of them will answer your question! --------------------------------- Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1926 - Release Date: 1/30/2009 5:31 PM

Your suggestion is interesting. I have an Allan MARTIN (1743-1820) of Ringfad who had a son, John MARTIN (1784-1847). This John would be too young to fit your scenario, but is is not unlikely that he had an uncle John, a younger brother of Allan MARTIN. I suspect I'll be able in time to patch this together. Thanks! Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl ----- Original Message ----- From: "james twycross" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Ringfad - 1841 Sundial > Well Sharon it seems to me that you're looking at a time frame of roughly > 1788 to about 1850 for Lieutenant John Martin's Naval service - the First > Fleet arrived at Port Jackson in January 1788 then afterwards, there was > steady visits with the arrival of more convicts ships and Royal Navy > vessels. Lieutenant John Martin could either have been part of the First > Fleet or a member of the crew of later arrivals. In any case it seems to > me > his naval career would fall somewhere within those years, 1788 to 1850 - > if > he visited Port Jackson as seems likely, you can be sure that. Having > established that it would/should make a search for his service papers fall > within those limits. Good luck with your searches, James. >