Fiona Was Samuel married in Ayr Town or Shire? I am also on the Ayrshire list. A friend in Fenwich tols me some years ago, that quite a lot of Irish came to work in the Coal mines and also in hte explosive works at Saltcoats. He mayhave mentioned some other sites as well. Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fiona Arnold" <fionajkennedy@gmail.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Samuel KENNEDY > Hi Mike, > Sorry, I should have been clearer. > > Samuel KENNEDY was actually married in Ayr, Scotland in 1862. His marriage > certificate lists his parents names of Halliday KENNEDY and Lydia LATTA. > But > I haven't been able to locate either one of those names on any nline > source > so I'm casting my net wider. > > It is the 1861 census that lists Ireland as Samuel's birthplace. > > After a search for any LATTA's in the areas of Ireland (as that was for > less > common than KENNEDY), a couple were found in Co Donegal. Only one KENNEDY > there via Griffiths Valuation > > Samuel's supposed birth of 1823 (listed as aged 38 on 1861 census). I'm > taking the date with a grain of salt as he was supposedly then over 10 > years > older than his wife to be - not overly common, so I'm broadening it to the > 1830's. > > The reason I am directing my searches to Co Down along with Donegal, Derry > and Antrim is because of the small list of Samuel Kennedy births found on > IFHS site between 1817 and 1845. But no specific parishes/towns as yet > from > a census, marriage certificate, Griffiths Valuations plus IFHS indexes. > > > > > Hopefully that make sit all a little clearer for you. >

Hi Mike, Samuel KENNEDY was married in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland and is actually listed as a coal miner on his marriage certificate in 1862. He lost a 4 year battle with consumption only ten years later as a pauper with a wife Martha NEIL and five children, one of which was born only 2 days after he died. Which seems quite sad to me. Not sure how else to connect him to a town in Ireland as yet. Fiona On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: > Fiona > Was Samuel married in Ayr Town or Shire? > > I am also on the Ayrshire list. A friend in Fenwich tols me some years > ago, > that quite a lot of Irish came to work in the Coal mines and also in hte > explosive works at Saltcoats. He mayhave mentioned some other sites as > well. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fiona Arnold" <fionajkennedy@gmail.com> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 7:11 PM > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Samuel KENNEDY > > > > Hi Mike, > > Sorry, I should have been clearer. > > > > Samuel KENNEDY was actually married in Ayr, Scotland in 1862. His > marriage > > certificate lists his parents names of Halliday KENNEDY and Lydia LATTA. > > But > > I haven't been able to locate either one of those names on any nline > > source > > so I'm casting my net wider. > > > > It is the 1861 census that lists Ireland as Samuel's birthplace. > > > > After a search for any LATTA's in the areas of Ireland (as that was for > > less > > common than KENNEDY), a couple were found in Co Donegal. Only one KENNEDY > > there via Griffiths Valuation > > > > Samuel's supposed birth of 1823 (listed as aged 38 on 1861 census). I'm > > taking the date with a grain of salt as he was supposedly then over 10 > > years > > older than his wife to be - not overly common, so I'm broadening it to > the > > 1830's. > > > > The reason I am directing my searches to Co Down along with Donegal, > Derry > > and Antrim is because of the small list of Samuel Kennedy births found on > > IFHS site between 1817 and 1845. But no specific parishes/towns as yet > > from > > a census, marriage certificate, Griffiths Valuations plus IFHS indexes. > > > > > > > > > > Hopefully that make sit all a little clearer for you. > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > 472 list members as of 1 Aug 2010. > -------------------------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Fiona I will copy this to the Ayrshire list as well. I have not had to chace up any miners, but I assume that you will "need" to try to find out which mine he was working at when he married in 1862 and see if there is an history of where that mine recruited people from. His father may have come from Ireland and then he followed him into the mines. The Ayrshire Census may also help you to find any other parnets and siblings in Kilmarnock Good hunting Mike Boyd Brisbane where our River a running a little high at present ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fiona Arnold" <fionajkennedy@gmail.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Samuel KENNEDY > Hi Mike, > > Samuel KENNEDY was married in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland and is > actually > listed as a coal miner on his marriage certificate in 1862. He lost a 4 > year > battle with consumption only ten years later as a pauper with a wife > Martha > NEIL and five children, one of which was born only 2 days after he died. > Which seems quite sad to me. > > Not sure how else to connect him to a town in Ireland as yet. > > Fiona > > > On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: > >> Fiona >> Was Samuel married in Ayr Town or Shire? >> >> I am also on the Ayrshire list. A friend in Fenwich tols me some years >> ago, >> that quite a lot of Irish came to work in the Coal mines and also in hte >> explosive works at Saltcoats. He mayhave mentioned some other sites as >> well. >> >> Mike Boyd >> Brisbane >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Fiona Arnold" <fionajkennedy@gmail.com> >> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 7:11 PM >> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Samuel KENNEDY >> >> >> > Hi Mike, >> > Sorry, I should have been clearer. >> > >> > Samuel KENNEDY was actually married in Ayr, Scotland in 1862. His >> marriage >> > certificate lists his parents names of Halliday KENNEDY and Lydia >> > LATTA. >> > But >> > I haven't been able to locate either one of those names on any nline >> > source >> > so I'm casting my net wider. >> > >> > It is the 1861 census that lists Ireland as Samuel's birthplace. >> > >> > After a search for any LATTA's in the areas of Ireland (as that was for >> > less >> > common than KENNEDY), a couple were found in Co Donegal. Only one >> > KENNEDY >> > there via Griffiths Valuation >> > >> > Samuel's supposed birth of 1823 (listed as aged 38 on 1861 census). I'm >> > taking the date with a grain of salt as he was supposedly then over 10 >> > years >> > older than his wife to be - not overly common, so I'm broadening it to >> the >> > 1830's. >> > >> > The reason I am directing my searches to Co Down along with Donegal, >> Derry >> > and Antrim is because of the small list of Samuel Kennedy births found >> > on >> > IFHS site between 1817 and 1845. But no specific parishes/towns as yet >> > from >> > a census, marriage certificate, Griffiths Valuations plus IFHS indexes. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Hopefully that make sit all a little clearer for you. >> > >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> 472 list members as of 1 Aug 2010. >> -------------------------------------------------- >> Searchable list archive at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > -------------------------------------------------- > 472 list members as of 1 Aug 2010. > -------------------------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message