Mike I may have this info for you still working on it. Will try & get it to you this weekend. -----Original Message----- From: boyd-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:boyd-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 1:35 AM To: nir-down@rootsweb.com; irl-antrim-L@rootsweb.com; boyd@rootsweb.com Subject: [BOYD] John Boyd of Parish of Shankill, Co Armagh & Jane Bell of Kilmore Townland, Par. of Shankill, Co Down According to Chapter V, The Boyd and Bell Families, pp 173- 202, John Boyd and Jane Bell were married at the Quaker meeting house in Lurgan on 28 January 1708. Their marriage certificate states that both John and Jane are residents of the Parish of Shankill. Three-fourth of this parish (7.7 square miles), including the town of Lurgan, is in County Armagh; the remainder (2.6) square miles) is in the County Down. The boundaries of County Down are such that a small finger, about three-fourth of a mile wide, juts westward to the shore of Lough Neagh between Armagh and Antrim. This small strip of land, which comprises the townland of Kilmore, falls within the Parish of Shankill. John Boyd lived in the County Armagh section of this parish, the Bells within the small County Down portion. John Boyd was estimated to have been born about 1685, but no location or parents were recorded for him. Unfortunately, the marriage certificate does not give the names of the groom's or bride's parents. It is suspected that Elizabeth Boid, as the name is spelled in the first line, is John Boyd's mother, and Tamar Boid a sister, aunty, or other close relative. John's father, whose name has not been ascertained, may have been deceased because no male Boyd signed the certificate as a witness to the ceremony. Ann Bell's parents were William Bell and his wife names is just given as Ann - with no surname. Jane Bell is listed as the first daughter of William and Ann Bell and being born in the parish Aghagallan, County Antrim, while the 2 brothers and fifth daughter are all recorded as being born at Killmore. With three daughters not being listed. A second Bell family of Simon Bell and his wife Ann Crookes are listed as being in Killmore townland. This Simon was Jane Bell's uncle and brother of William Bell. I am looking to see if any of the Bell families of Kilmore Townland, Parish of Shankill, County Down, may know whom John Boyd's parents were or any details on his and Jane Bell's family. Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS _______________________________________ House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2011 will be held in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA in conjunction with The Highland Games and Celtic Gathering April 16-17, 2011. Mike will be returning to America to join us! Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested in helping to plan it. _______________________________________ Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 ______________________________________ House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The Society would not be what it is without you! ______________________________________ Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact Kevin McLachlan, Editor at Editor@clanboyd.org ==================== Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org ==================== For Officers and other Contacts, see http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml ==================== Most replies should go to the list, not just the author of the post. Make sure to include the list address Boyd@rootsweb.com ==================== Need to contact the Admin? Write me off list at Boyd-admin@rootsweb.com ==================== Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe mid-discussion? Visit the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd ==================== Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? Write the Help Desk for assistance http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ Honor your fellow subscribers -- follow the Golden Rule! **************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Elmfield Street is off the Crumlin Road in Belfast 14, Ardoyne, County Antrim. Milford Street is off Albert St, which is off Falls Road,Belfast 12. and in the shadow of St Peter's cathedral, County Antrim -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mick Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 8:23 AM To: nir-down@rootsweb.com Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Belfast Map showing County division Hi there fellow Listers, can anyone please point me in the direction of a street map of Belfast showing the County divisions? Trying to work out what Counties Elmfield Street and Milford Street would be in, or whether the same county. My g-grandfather was married in St Peter's Church, now the Cathedral in Belfast in 1895, and my grandfather was born in Elmfield Street in 1899. Would love to find them in the 1901 census but unable to pin them down at present. Many thanks, Michael McAllister -------------------------------------------------- 433 list members as of 1 Feb 2011. We lost a lot of members when AOL blocked RootsWeb in December, and even more when AT&T blocked RootsWeb in January. If you get unsubscribed, just keep resubscribing until it works. -------------------------------------------------- Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 19154 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Hi there fellow Listers, can anyone please point me in the direction of a street map of Belfast showing the County divisions? Trying to work out what Counties Elmfield Street and Milford Street would be in, or whether the same county. My g-grandfather was married in St Peter's Church, now the Cathedral in Belfast in 1895, and my grandfather was born in Elmfield Street in 1899. Would love to find them in the 1901 census but unable to pin them down at present. Many thanks, Michael McAllister

The county division is in the river. I have a number of maps of Belfast from the period and before on the web at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyairriess/sets/72157604322031931/ Most maps are at the bottom of the collection, scroll down Click on a thumbnail to make it bigger. To get the full-sized map (some are quite large), click the magnifying glass above right of the image and then click "All Sizes" in the top right of the page that displays. You can then choose the image size you want to see. The "original" size will give you the most detail. Most maps focus on the Sailortown part of Belfast, but you might get lucky. I recently added a 1832 map that, unfortunately, does not have street names, but it is interesting to see the growth of the city. Andy Airriess

In the recent past, my limited skill set when it came to web site design has meant that I found it challenging to share large files containing complex tables of information. Now, I have learned a new method - very basic to all of you who have more than a gnat's worth of know how when it comes to web design - which means that I can share a large and complex document quite simply. Today, I managed to post a pdf to my web site containing hundreds of pages and thousands of names of people and Irish townlands and such in one table. There are some names such as JACKSON or OLIVER that have received a significant amount of my attention over the years, but there are also dozens of other names that have also got dozens of entries connected with them, as well as thousands of others who at least receive cursory notice. I would be interested in knowing what you think - for example, how easy this table is to use. You can learn about it and also connect to it at: http://sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.com/2011/03/one-good-deed-deserves.html Enjoy, Sharon Oddie Brown -- Sharon Oddie Brown, Roberts Creek, BC, Canada. History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Blog: http://sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.com/ Some Become Flowers: http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl

Hi Jean, This is a lot of work which you have completed, and generously shared. None of my Irish were in Liverpool longer than to change ships! Do you know where I could get a list of London irish born for 1851? I am looking for Granny Wild Irish Annie Carney (Kearney?), who married in London, c. early 1870's to Anthony John Saunders. I'm looking for her birthplace in Ireland, or her family. Thanks, wendy On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Jean McCarthy <jeanmccarthy36@gmail.com>wrote: > 1851 Census Index Liverpool—Irish born on my web site at the link below. > > Alternatively type Jean McCarthy into the Google search engine for a > direct link. > > I have added over two thousand more records to the Index for the 1851 > Census for Liverpool Irish born people. I will add more records as > time permits. > > Kindest Regards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore. Staffordshire, England. > > My own main names of interest: MOORE, (Ireland, Canada & Australia) > BOWDEN, (Ireland, New Zealand, Tasmania & Australia) HAWTHORNE. > (Ireland and Pennsylvania) In Co Down, Co Armagh & Co Antrim Ireland: > McCALLISTER, McAULEY, FLINN, STRAIN, SPRATT, McCLENAGHAN & KENNEDY. > > > > -- > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/ > > jeanmccarthy36@googlemail.com > > JEAN.MCCARTHY@MSGH-TR.WMIDS.NHS.UK > > -------------------------------------------------- > 433 list members as of 1 Feb 2011. We lost a lot of members when AOL > blocked RootsWeb in December, and even more when AT&T blocked RootsWeb in > January. If you get unsubscribed, just keep resubscribing until it works. > -------------------------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Does anyone know anything about these: 1787 Nov 5 Marr art btw James JACKSON of town of Newtownards, Co Down, Surgeon of the 1^st part & Arabella BLACK of Tullindony dau of Joseph BLACKlate of Tullydonyof the 2^nd pt & the Rev James BIRCH of Dromorain sd Co. & Rev Thomas CUMMY of Tullindorry in sd Co of 3^rd pt reciting that the said Arabella BLACK is seized of & possessed of by virtue ofa deed of partition bearing date the 9^th day of August1780 that part of Skeagh then in possession of Samuel MAGOWEN & William LIMAN [ aka LEMON?] cont 14 acresthereabout &that part of Moygannon then in possession of John ANDREW, William ANDREW, Robert MOORE ? DONELLY & McCUPPAGE cont 10 acres or thereabouts that part of Drumbony then in possession of Wm HERON, Fraser HALL & Wm McMURRY cont 4 acres or thereabout & also those tenaments in Town of Dromore then in possession of James WILSON, John CRAIGE & Terrance MAGUIRE and reciting that a marriageis shortly to be had between sd James JACKSON & Arabella BLACK... witness Rev Andrew CRAIG of Lisburn, Co Antrim, Dissenting Minister & ors.... Ta, Sharon Oddie Brown -- Sharon Oddie Brown, Roberts Creek, BC, Canada. History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Blog: http://sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.com/ Some Become Flowers: http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl

Helena Independent (Montana) Sept 18 1898 Death of Dr John Hall Belfast, Ireland, Sept17 The Rev Dr John Hall of New York, died this morning at Bangor, County Down. Dr Hall was on his annual visit to Europe. He died at his sister's residence. His health had been broken down for more than a year, but he had hoped to return to New York sortly and had already engaged passage on the steamer for himself and his wife.

Anaconda Standard July 8 1898 A William J. "W.J." Ennis of Madison Co (Ennis) Montana was murdered by a Mr Martin Peel. He was Episcopalian. Ennis, age 71, was born in Co Down about 1827 and emigrated at about age 14. He did railroading in Michigan and Chicago, before going to Colorado, then Montana. Very successful freighter, farmer and merchant. Survived by wife and three children: W.J. Ennis, Mrs C.W. Chowning and Miss Kitty Haines Ennis (adopted). Long article.....let me know if anyone wants more. Nan PS IGI gives his wife as Katherine Shriver of Oneida Ohio but it also incorrectly (apparently) gives his birth as Mar 17 1828 in Oneida Ohio. Marriage in Oneida on 05 Aug 1861

With thanks to Maura Kennedy for the folowing grave details IHS 1884 Of your charity pray for the repose of the souls of Margaret Jane McCartin who died 2nd April 1881 aged 28 years Rose Anna Mary McCartin who died 1st July 1881 aged 33 years Daniel McCartin who died 30th Nov 1882 aged 82 years John McCartin who died 29th July 1886 aged 36 years Margaret McCartin who died 25th July 1902 aged 48 years Both of Daniels wives are buried elsewhere?? Yvonne Lascelles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nan Brennan" <nan.brennan@mindspring.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com>; <CountyDownGenealogy@yahoogroups.com>; "McCartan List" <McCartan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 3:20 AM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] 1855 Belfast Marriage Daniel McCartin --JuliaFairfield--Shrigley killyleagh connection > > Thanks to Yvonne Lascelles for this marriage record. > > Sept 26 1855 > Daniel McCartin to Julia Fairchild > St Patrick's RC Church, Belfast > Rev Macaulay > > Husband witness J Anderson > Wife witness Christine Dougall > > Julia Fairchild's family was from Shrigley near Killyleagh > > Any information on Fairchilds or Belfast or Shrigley or Killeagh is > appreciated. > > Note Julia had a sister Catherine Fairchild, born presumably Belfast > @1830, > alive in 1901 in Belfast. > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > 433 list members as of 1 Feb 2011. We lost a lot of members when AOL > blocked RootsWeb in December, and even more when AT&T blocked RootsWeb in > January. If you get unsubscribed, just keep resubscribing until it works. > -------------------------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry.... I said, >> Any information on Fairchilds or Belfast or Shrigley or Killeagh is >> appreciated. >> I meant, 'information on Fairfields OF Shrigley or Killyleagh" Nan Begin forwarded message: > From: Nan Brennan <nan.brennan@mindspring.com> > Date: March 18, 2011 10:20:38 PM CDT > To: nir-down@rootsweb.com, CountyDownGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, > McCartan List <McCartan@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [CountyDownGenealogy] 1855 Belfast Marriage Daniel McCartin > --Julia Fairfield--Shrigley killyleagh connection > Reply-To: CountyDownGenealogy@yahoogroups.com > > > Thanks to Yvonne Lascelles for this marriage record. > > Sept 26 1855 > Daniel McCartin to Julia Fairchild > St Patrick's RC Church, Belfast > Rev Macaulay > > Husband witness J Anderson > Wife witness Christine Dougall > > Julia Fairchild's family was from Shrigley near Killyleagh > > Any information on Fairchilds or Belfast or Shrigley or Killeagh is > appreciated. > > Note Julia had a sister Catherine Fairchild, born presumably Belfast > @1830, > alive in 1901 in Belfast. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > __._,_.___ > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New > Topic > Messages in this topic (1) > RECENT ACTIVITY: New Members 5 New Photos 1 New Files 1 > Visit Your Group > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use > . > > __,_._,___

Thanks to Yvonne Lascelles for this marriage record. Sept 26 1855 Daniel McCartin to Julia Fairchild St Patrick's RC Church, Belfast Rev Macaulay Husband witness J Anderson Wife witness Christine Dougall Julia Fairchild's family was from Shrigley near Killyleagh Any information on Fairchilds or Belfast or Shrigley or Killeagh is appreciated. Note Julia had a sister Catherine Fairchild, born presumably Belfast @1830, alive in 1901 in Belfast.

1851 Census Index Liverpool—Irish born on my web site at the link below. Alternatively type Jean McCarthy into the Google search engine for a direct link. I have added over two thousand more records to the Index for the 1851 Census for Liverpool Irish born people. I will add more records as time permits. Kindest Regards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore. Staffordshire, England. My own main names of interest: MOORE, (Ireland, Canada & Australia) BOWDEN, (Ireland, New Zealand, Tasmania & Australia) HAWTHORNE. (Ireland and Pennsylvania) In Co Down, Co Armagh & Co Antrim Ireland: McCALLISTER, McAULEY, FLINN, STRAIN, SPRATT, McCLENAGHAN & KENNEDY. -- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/ jeanmccarthy36@googlemail.com JEAN.MCCARTHY@MSGH-TR.WMIDS.NHS.UK

We will be sending in our website updates and any news we hear about new resources. You can share your photos of Ireland, recipes, opinions. Anything about Ireland. To find us on Facebook search for Ireland Genealogy Projects. Cheers, Christina http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ ===============================

About 1,000 County Down births entries, have been added to my website, each entry giving the childs name, where born, fathers name and mothers maiden name. Information on the births now made easier, thanks to Eddie Williams. The website search engine has been a bit slow in picking up the new material, but these can be viewed by going to "The County Down Births,1865/75" on the website index bar, as the birth sections are all in alphabetical order, the last added are names beginning with W, X or Y, more will be added next week Raymond, on behalf of Eddie http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com

Raymond, You have done a wonderful job on your website! I remember when you first started it. Do you know if anyone is working on the births & deaths of Bangor Parish, or Bangor itself? I'm interested in the 1800-1850 time period. My John Kelley/Kelly was born about 1810 and his son John R. Kelley/Kelly was born in March 1845....somewhere in Bangor Parish. John senior's wife Mary Crozier died in Bangor 23 Aug 1847 and is buried in her family's plot in the Bangor Abbey Graveyard. Her parents were James and Jane Crozier. Thanks, Carole Hammond in wet Gresham, Oregon

Over 1,000 County Down births entries, have been added to my website, each entry giving the childs name, where born, fathers name and mothers maiden name. Information on the births now made easier, thanks to Eddie Williams. Raymond http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com

Recently I have been intrigued about how memory works, and particularly how it works when we construct stories that include both personal and national memories. I have recently written a couple of blogs about this. The first is about how personal memory works. See it at: http://sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.com/2011/03/memory-is-like-water.html The second pertains more to Irish family history: http://sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.com/2011/03/memory-is-like-water-part-2.html Leave a comment on the blog site, or email me if you'd like to let me know what you think. Sharon Oddie Brown -- Sharon Oddie Brown, Roberts Creek, BC, Canada. History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Blog: http://sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.com/ Some Become Flowers: http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl

Although the "Emerald Isle" is divided into two regions, representatives from both Northern Irelandand the Republic of Ireland share a common goal of re-connecting their homelands with their scattered “diaspora.” “Our diaspora is hugely important to us, not least our diaspora here in the United States. Twelve percent of the population of the United States is Irish-American,” said Michael Collins, Ireland's ambassador to the U.S., at a luncheon held in Atlanta to celebrate the opening of Ireland’s new consulate general in Atlanta. http://www.globalatlanta.com/article/24585/

Hello Everyone, I am new to this list and I am hoping that I'll be able to find some information on a couple of ancestors. I am searching for two brothers, Thomas and William Gordon. They emigrated to New Zealand around 1840-1842 from Northern Ireland. I have found immigration papers in Sydney, Australia which I believe relate to Thomas and William. Thomas's record states that Thomas came from "Moran" Co. Down. I think that it is possible that it was Mourne. They were both single at the time of their departing Ireland. I believe that Thomas was born about 1812/1813 and that William was born about 1815/1817. Thomas's death notice in Auckland, NZ, 1872, asks that Newry papers take note. Their parents were Jane and James Gordon (although for some time we thought that the father was a Thomas). As most of us researching this family live in Australia and NZ, we would be grateful for any information or advice on how to proceed to find anything about the brothers' lives and family in Irelan! d. Thanks, Heather.