Hello List I am searching for William MOFFAT, [any spelling] who married Agnes WATSON. They had two sons William, born about 1843, and James born about 1848 in County Down, and I would really appreciate any help to find this family please. Best wishes from Moira in New Zealand

I also am looking at Moffats in Down, however; I only know mine married there in Magheralin Parish. I do have info on the marriage from online source (early 1800's). My couple was supposedly both born in Scotland but I do not know where. They are Thomas Moffat and Jane Pickering. I have found info on Pickering in the area. It seems to me that maybe my Jane Pickering was born right there in Ireland but on a death cert of one of their sons, it lists both parents born in Scotland and says the same on at least one census for the son. Their children that I know of thus far are William, Charlotte, Wesley, and possibly John. William Moffat, Charlotte, and Wesley were born in Horton area, Grand Pre Nova Scotia..called Wolfville also I think and later called Cornwallis. I have found Wesley marrying in Annapolis Nova Scotia. I do not know why they would have come from Scotland to marry in Ireland and then move onto Nova Scotia. William eventually ended up in Boston, MA. I have seen this family on a few ship lists also back and forth from NS to Boston, MA. Christy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Guler" <mlmguler@yahoo.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] MOFFAT Hi Moira, I can't help you, but I would be interested in any information that you find. My great great grandfather was Richard Russell, b 1834 in Annalong, Kilkeel, Down. His older brother, William Russell's will listed his siblings, and the sister that I knew to be Jane Russell, was called Jane Moffat Russell in the will. Based on naming custom, this would indicate that my great great great grandfather (John Russell's) mother was likely Jane Moffat. Although I have been told that the Russell's came to Down from Scotland at the time of the Battle of the Boyne (1690), I find the marriage of a couple, William Russell and Jane Moffat, in Neilston, Renfrew, Scotland on 23 Jan 1790. I do not know for sure that this is "them", but have been told that sometimes folks in Down did go back to Scotland to marry. The timeframe is about right, and could account for the name of a 2nd granddaughter. I cannot find children for this couple in Scotland, increasing the chances that they went to Down after they married. I hope you will share what you find, and wish you luck. Mary ________________________________ From: Moira Draper <moira_draper@xtra.co.nz> To: NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 10:27 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] MOFFAT Hello List I am searching for William MOFFAT, [any spelling] who married Agnes WATSON. They had two sons William, born about 1843, and James born about 1848 in County Down, and I would really appreciate any help to find this family please. Best wishes from Moira in New Zealand -------------------------------------------------- 441 list members as of 1 Aug 2011. We lost a lot of members when AOL blocked RootsWeb in December 2010, and even more when AT&T blocked RootsWeb in January 2011. If you get unsubscribed, just keep resubscribing until it works. -------------------------------------------------- Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------- 441 list members as of 1 Aug 2011. We lost a lot of members when AOL blocked RootsWeb in December 2010, and even more when AT&T blocked RootsWeb in January 2011. If you get unsubscribed, just keep resubscribing until it works. -------------------------------------------------- Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Moira, I can't help you, but I would be interested in any information that you find. My great great grandfather was Richard Russell, b 1834 in Annalong, Kilkeel, Down.  His older brother, William Russell's will listed his siblings, and the sister that I knew to be Jane Russell, was called Jane Moffat Russell in the will.  Based on naming custom, this would indicate that my great great great grandfather (John Russell's) mother was likely Jane Moffat. Although I have been told that the Russell's came to Down from Scotland at the time of the Battle of the Boyne (1690), I find the marriage of a couple, William Russell and Jane Moffat, in Neilston, Renfrew, Scotland on 23 Jan 1790.  I do not know for sure that this is "them", but have been told that sometimes folks in Down did go back to Scotland to marry.  The timeframe is about right, and could account for the name of a 2nd granddaughter.  I cannot find children for this couple in Scotland, increasing the chances that they went to Down after they married. I hope you will share what you find, and wish you luck. Mary ________________________________ From: Moira Draper <moira_draper@xtra.co.nz> To: NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 10:27 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] MOFFAT Hello List I am searching for William MOFFAT, [any spelling] who married Agnes WATSON. They had two sons William, born about 1843, and James born about 1848 in County Down, and I would really appreciate any help to find this family please. Best wishes from Moira in New Zealand -------------------------------------------------- 441 list members as of 1 Aug 2011. We lost a lot of members when AOL blocked RootsWeb in December 2010, and even more when AT&T blocked RootsWeb in January 2011.  If you get unsubscribed, just keep resubscribing until it works. -------------------------------------------------- Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I put out a call on a few Irish lists for Ancestor photos to put in the IGP Archives this month. We got a few. If you have one or more to share (assuming you know the county) you can use our Photo uploader to add them. We are about preserving our ancestors faces as well as their names. http://www.genrecords.org/irfiles/photos.html Example: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/longford/photos.htm All the best...Christina Ireland Genealogy Projects Archives http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/

We have just added RIC men from County Down who enlisted in 1843. The names are: BARRY, David COTTER, John CRYMBLE, Samuel DAVIS, Robert DOYLE, John FORSYTHE, Samuel KARR, John McKEE, Robert MERCER, Stephen MURPHY, William NIXON, Samuel SPEERS, James If anyone is of interest you can check out further info at: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Click on DOWN and then MILITARY& CONSTABULARY Thanks, Christina Ireland Genealogy Projects - Archives ===============================

We have just added RIC men from County Down who enlisted in 1843. The names are: BARRY, David COTTER, John CRYMBLE, Samuel DAVIS, Robert DOYLE, John FORSYTHE, Samuel KARR, John McKEE, Robert MERCER, Stephen MURPHY, William NIXON, Samuel SPEERS, James If anyone is of interest you can check out further info at: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Click on DOWN and then MILITARY & CONSTABULARY Thanks, Christina Ireland Genealogy Projects - Archives ===============================

On 7/30/11 1:00 AM, "nir-down-request@rootsweb.com" <nir-down-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Don't hit Reply to respond to a digest message, but cut & paste the specific > message into a new email AND change the subject line. -------- > > Today's Topics: > > 1. County Down Births updated (the_researcher) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:05:49 +0100 > From: "the_researcher" <the_researcher@raymondscountydownwebsite.com> > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] County Down Births updated > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BDCEB2AA7AC74B848F8E7C5F7A8F871A@home6456387d28> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > About 400 birth records has been added in the county down section of my > website. > Raymond > > http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NIR-DOWN list administrator, send an email to > NIR-DOWN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NIR-DOWN mailing list, send an email to > NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NIR-DOWN Digest, Vol 6, Issue 103 > ****************************************

About 400 birth records has been added in the county down section of my website. Raymond http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com

I have just added more than 400 new names to my family tree at Rootsweb. My focus this time is the line of Jacksons who started in Co. Meath, and then moved to Ballybay, Co. Monaghan in the mid 1700s. From there, many of them moved to America. They parked for periods of time in just about every county in Ireland, and married people from wherever they happened to land. I have written a blog to intorduce you to them and it contains links at the bottom to all the new material on both my web site and at Rootsweb. SEE: http://sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.com/2011/07/jackson-connexion.html The collateral lines of this lot have also introduced some promising leads with respect to connections with BOYDs, BROWNEs and others who lived in Armagh, Tyrone, Fermanagh, Monaghan, Cavan and Down. As I said, they did get around. Enjoy - and as always let me know about my mistakes. I often leave a few in my wake. Sharon Oddie Brown -- Sharon Oddie Brown, Roberts Creek, BC, Canada. History Project: www.thesilverbowl.com

Hi Can anyone tell what BDM information I would obtain from the ROOTSIRELAND website? Regards Sandra Kelleher

I have recently focused on the 17th & 18th century English settlers in Ireland, in particular JACKSONs. Their families moved about and settled in virtually every county in Ireland. Often they used Ireland as a stepping stone to America, Canada, Australia or anywhere else they saw greener pastures. I have parked them all in about half a dozen trees, and posted them to my web site. They helped me see to see new links between Carlow and Tyrone, for example, that I would not have otherwise known about. Likely readers will notice others. I have just posted the third of three pieces that I did on my blog about this work. For those of you who want to cut to the chase and just get the links to all the new records I have posted as a result, just click on the third one. If my process interests you as well, check out the first two as well: The first is about my experiences of learning from family crests: http://sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.com/2011/07/crests-and-coats-of-arms-1st-in-small.html The second focuses on the Red Hand of Ulster and the red hand in baronial crests (hint: not the same) http://sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.com/2011/07/arms-and-red-hand-of-ulster-2nd-in.html The third focuses on the new trees that I have cobbled together http://sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.com/2011/07/sheldrake-and-other-elements-3rd-in.html As always, there will be more to learn. I will update the pages as I go. Let me know if you spot errors. It is how I learn. Enjoy, Sharon PS I have also updated my database at rootsweb - it is called silverbowl . There are now more than 9,700 records, most of which are reasonably documented. -- Sharon Oddie Brown, Roberts Creek, BC, Canada. History Project: www.thesilverbowl.com

About 300 births have been added to the "County Down Births" section of my website, an index has also been added to help those researching the births of ancestors, a link on the opening page of the website will help to people researching ancestors in Scotland, this was provided by my local Family history group. Raymond (Thanks to Ned) http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com

Black Islands are adjacent to Cloghey Rocks, South of Strangford. The Quayle family lived in nearby Causeway House. -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patti Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 5:58 PM To: NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Location of BLACKCAUSWAY in 1796? Hello, Seek to determine location of BLACKCAUSWAY, which is listed in a transcript of a 1796 baptism record for the Parish of Saul. On a current map, only reference found is a Blackcauseway Road in Strangford. Welcome any information re: location of Blackcausway in 1796. Thanks -------------------------------------------------- 440 list members as of 1 May 2011. We lost a lot of members when AOL blocked RootsWeb in December 2010, and even more when AT&T blocked RootsWeb in January 2011. If you get unsubscribed, just keep resubscribing until it works. -------------------------------------------------- Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 19593 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Hello, Seek to determine location of BLACKCAUSWAY, which is listed in a transcript of a 1796 baptism record for the Parish of Saul. On a current map, only reference found is a Blackcauseway Road in Strangford. Welcome any information re: location of Blackcausway in 1796. Thanks

Thanks for this Nan - very interesting. On Jul 14, 2011, at 9:56 PM, Nan Brennan wrote: > Irish World > News from Ireland > New York > August 22 1896 > > The remains of the late MR THOMAS MARNER, of Carnacally, Crossgar, > were interred in Loughinisland Cemetery, funeral cortege long and > respectable. > > The chief mourners were : Henry Marner (brother), Michael Marner, > Thomas Marner and Patrick Marner (nephews), Very Rev Richard Marner, > Kilkeel, and John Marner, Thomas Martin, John Maguire and Thomas > Maguire (cousins). > > Among those present were: Very Rev James Crickard,V.F. Loughlinisland, > Rev J McAleese, do., Rev J. McArdle, Crossgar; Rev Richard Smyth, > Saintfield; > Rev J Neeson, Killyleigh; Rev J Eardley, Kilkeel; Rev. W. J. Boylan, > Ballymena; Rev R 'Rawe, do; Rev G. Crolly, St Patrick's, Belfast; > Rev W.J. Kelly, Newtownards; Rev P. McErlean, Belfast; Rev J > McDonnell, Ballycruttie; > Rev Thomas Jameson, rector of Kilmore; Messrs James Cleland, Crossgar; > William Davidson, Ballywoollen; John Denvir, Downpatrick; Dr Carlisle, > Crossgar; > H.C. Weir, solicitor , do; Hugh Maglennon do; Matthew King, do., R. A. > Gracey, do.; > J.H. Gracey, do.; J. G. Napier, Do.; Samuel McMullan, do., Daniel > Murray, > Crossgar; Patrick Murray, do; Daniel Murray, Crossgar; Patrick Murray, > do; > Thomas Mason, do; James Bell, do., William Morrison, do; Francis > Morrow, do; > Patrick Savage, do,; George Edgar, do.; R. Madine., do.; Michael > Morrison, do.; > J. McCoubrey, do,; R. and S. Shields, do.; Roland Seay, Kilmore; John > and Luke > Killien, Clontinaglare; Daniel Rice, Ballymacaramery. Fiona. ====== Genealogist/Writer 0f MOURNE MINERS http://web.me.com/fmj170901/Mourne_Miners_Genealogy_Publications/Home.html IGP Co. Down Coordinator http://www.igp-web.com/down/ Moderator CDG Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CountyDownGenealogy/ =======

Irish World News from Ireland New York August 22 1896 The remains of the late MR THOMAS MARNER, of Carnacally, Crossgar, were interred in Loughinisland Cemetery, funeral cortege long and respectable. The chief mourners were : Henry Marner (brother), Michael Marner, Thomas Marner and Patrick Marner (nephews), Very Rev Richard Marner, Kilkeel, and John Marner, Thomas Martin, John Maguire and Thomas Maguire (cousins). Among those present were: Very Rev James Crickard,V.F. Loughlinisland, Rev J McAleese, do., Rev J. McArdle, Crossgar; Rev Richard Smyth, Saintfield; Rev J Neeson, Killyleigh; Rev J Eardley, Kilkeel; Rev. W. J. Boylan, Ballymena; Rev R 'Rawe, do; Rev G. Crolly, St Patrick's, Belfast; Rev W.J. Kelly, Newtownards; Rev P. McErlean, Belfast; Rev J McDonnell, Ballycruttie; Rev Thomas Jameson, rector of Kilmore; Messrs James Cleland, Crossgar; William Davidson, Ballywoollen; John Denvir, Downpatrick; Dr Carlisle, Crossgar; H.C. Weir, solicitor , do; Hugh Maglennon do; Matthew King, do., R. A. Gracey, do.; J.H. Gracey, do.; J. G. Napier, Do.; Samuel McMullan, do., Daniel Murray, Crossgar; Patrick Murray, do; Daniel Murray, Crossgar; Patrick Murray, do; Thomas Mason, do; James Bell, do., William Morrison, do; Francis Morrow, do; Patrick Savage, do,; George Edgar, do.; R. Madine., do.; Michael Morrison, do.; J. McCoubrey, do,; R. and S. Shields, do.; Roland Seay, Kilmore; John and Luke Killien, Clontinaglare; Daniel Rice, Ballymacaramery.

Your welcome. Begin forwarded message: > Go raibh maith agat Dear Nan, Go raibh maith agat. It was very interesting reading the old newspaper articles, especially about the bombing in WWII. Beannachtai, Mairead (Margaret

Dear Nan, Go raibh maith agat. It was very interesting reading the old newspaper articles, especially about the bombing in WWII. Beannachtai, Mairead (Margaret

From the pages of the Down Recorder, May 18, 1941 REFUGEES � Downpatrick Board of Poor Law Guardians on Saturday discussed the woeful outpouring upon the countryside of poor Belfast folk, driven by the fear of a recurrence of deadly air attacks. The result has been the overcrowding of dwellings, some of them primitive enough, besides the massing together in improvised lodgings, all to the danger of public health. Mr. Hurst said that Mr. McCoubrey, the member for Ballynahinch, was apprehensive, like himself, of an outbreak of disease before the summer ended, what with the congestion, no proper sanitation, wells dipped into with old cans, overdrawn and liable to pollution by users hitherto accustomed to taps, and now throwing rubbish about. Herding in droves was to be seen at Drumaness. That was not good either for those concerned or the neighbourhood. Mr. Wightman praised the Women�s Voluntary Society, and his tale of Killyleagh being full up was duplicated by Mr. Cleland in regard to Killinchy, where from 32 to 40 persons were to be found in some houses, and a hall had been requisitioned. An order should be issued prohibiting more importations. Mr. McEvoy spoke of Killough as similarly ill off. It did not have police, and they were badly needed. Mothers seemed to have no influence over their children, who were running about wrecking the place. Mr. Caher told of the Ministry refusing to permit entry into six Tyrella houses, empty but furnished. In one case the police had to be brought before a man with a ten-roomed house could be induced to admit refugees. Undoubtedly some of them were hard to deal with. Their habits were appalling. Had the Belfast health authorities been neglectful? If owing to their hurried exit refugees could not be expected to arrive clean, that was no reason why they should continue not to be clean. Mr. McKenna said that the poorer people of Annsborough had to bear the brunt, in spite of vacant houses in the area. Some farmers had come to the rescue by giving over buildings. Rent profiteering had been nipped in the bud. The Workhouse Master stated that whereas the normal number of children in the workhouse was anything from 16 to 20, the previous night there were no fewer than 61. CASTLEWELLAN � At Downpatrick Rural Council�s meeting on Saturday Mr. Hugh McAleenan, civil engineer, in a letter addressed to Mr. F. McKenna, councillor, set out that despite all the expenditure of public money there was little improvement in Castlewellan�s water supply. �On April 23 I took the fire brigade out for practice. The first hydrant we tried in the lower Market square was completely dry. From another at the barracks the flow could not fill the barrel for the stirrup pump in any reasonable time. The filters are only capable of dealing with about 2,000 gallons per day, and the consumption is about 50 per cent above this. �The town is absolutely starved most of the time. We cannot get any assurance from Hitler that he will wait any longer, so we must fall back on the Council. If fire broke out we could do nothing.� Mr. Munce, the Council�s engineer, convinced that something was radically wrong, said he would visit Castlewellan on Monday; and he was empowered to purchase new hydrants if necessary. KILLYLEAGH � On his leaving to join the R.A.F., Mr. F. J. Perry, of Killyleagh school, was presented by Mr. R. N. Greer, principal, on behalf of the teaching staff and pupils, with a suitably inscribed solid silver cigarette case, filled with precious �smokes.� Mr. H. Brown, J.P., chairman, Revs. J. C. Boggs, S. Eaton and S. Mann, and Messrs T. Stevenson and J. H. Wightman, J.P., spoke of Mr. Perry�s estimable qualities, and hoped he would soon return, his duty done, victory accomplished. Mr. Perry assured them that he would take away happy memories of the nine years spent at Killyleagh, where he had made many friends amongst all sections of the community. Then the National Anthem was lustily sung. The Union Jack was hoisted in the grounds during the ceremony. LOUGHINISLAND � Second-Lieut. George Kerr Lorthwood and Private Cyril Reynolds were killed near Loughinisland on Tuesday. An Army vehicle in which they were travelling crashed over a road embankment into a field. Two others in the vehicle were seriously injured. Yesterday a motorcyclist, Lieut. Richard Percival, a native of Lancashire, was killed at Lisburn in collision with a military lorry. NEWRY � Currency is given to details of border cattle smuggling in the vicinity of Newry. The Government are determined to suppress it. No one (Lord Glentoran has said) can be allowed to endanger the whole of the cattle in his neighbourhood in order to gain two or three pounds. Nor is there any good (he went on) in sending deputations pleading in each case, on behalf of offenders, �He is a decent man.� If they want to see him, they must go to the Crumlin! ARDS � Fourteen defaulting Ards cottagers have been warned by the Rural Council that unless they till their plots they will be served with notices to quit. Are they impervious to the fact that feeding stuffs cannot now be imported? Garden and farm have now a new value. To the farmers the Ministry of Agriculture repeat their urgent advice to grow green crops such as cabbage and kale and to make grass silage. CARRICKNAB � Yesterday at Newcastle petty sessions, three male N.A.A.F.I. canteen workers who were accused of loitering late on May 6 near Francis Smyth�s fowl house, Carricknab, were each ordered to pay �1 to the Belfast relief fund. PORTAFERRY � Mr. H. A. Campbell, manager of Portaferry branch Northern Bank, is being transferred on his promotion to the bank�s Newtownards branch. SAINTFIELD � The vicar of Saintfield, Rev. C. M. Gorman, was the speaker at the Mothers� Union festival service in Down Cathedral on Wednesday.

1851 Census Index Liverpool—Irish born on my web site at the link below. Alternatively type Jean McCarthy into the Google search engine for a direct link. I have added over four thousand more records to the Index for the 1851 Census for Liverpool Irish born people. I will add more records as time permits. Kindest Regards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore. Staffordshire, England. My own main names of interest: MOORE, (Ireland, Canada & Australia) BOWDEN, (Ireland, New Zealand, Tasmania & Australia) HAWTHORNE. (Ireland and Pennsylvania) McCALLISTER, McAULEY, FLINN, STRAIN, SPRATT, McCLENAGHAN & KENNEDY (County Down, County Armagh & County Antrim Ireland) -- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/ jeanmccarthy36@googlemail.com JEAN.MCCARTHY@MSGH-TR.WMIDS.NHS.UK