Thanks Alma Lyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "FT. & AM." <kaw56@bigpond.net.au> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:28 AM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Wills calendars > Hello Lyn, > > If you go to the following site you will be able to read what they are. > http://www.ireland.com/ancestor/browse/records/wills/calen.htm > > Regards > Alma

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Hello Lyn, If you go to the following site you will be able to read what they are. http://www.ireland.com/ancestor/browse/records/wills/calen.htm Regards Alma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn Whelan" <johnwhelan@xtra.co.nz> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Wills calendars > Excuse my ignorance! What are Wills Calendars? > Lyn > >> >>> 1877 Thomas Aiken Newell Down >>> >> Record Type Wills Calendars

Thanks, Bev, for the good lead. I try to get to our LDS center this week to see what films I can order. Best regards, Dawn > Dawn Williams wrote: >> Hi, Bev. Thanks very much. Am confused, I guess, because I'm used to the >> Scottish records available on Scotlandspeople, which give so much >> information. Are there death certs available which might state parents >> names >> > Hi Dawn > > I don't know, because I've never been fortunate enough to find the right > deaths!!! A friend told me he was going to his LDS centre to research > the Probates, and this gentleman is a good researcher. Perhaps you > could try that also?! > > Cheers > Bev >

Many thanks Bev. I am not sure these fit in with my family yet. I found a similar situation, as you mentioned, in the 1851 census . They had a 63 yo and 60 yo couple as having a 3 year old daughter.If I could be sure that these were grandparents and not parents I would be failry certain they were my family. Does anyone know if it was common to make such mistakes or maybe if the real parents were dead or missing would they have said they were daughters/sons for custody issues? How likely was it for 57 yo women to have babies in those days? Alison> From: nir-down-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: NIR-DOWN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 519> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:01:16 -0700> > > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: Wills calendars (Bev Kerlin)> 2. Re: Wills calendars (Robt & Wendy Stevenson)> 3. Re: Bev's offer (Bev Kerlin)> 4. Re: Wills calendars (Bev Kerlin)> 5. Re: requesting lookup (Bev Kerlin)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:06:41 +1000> From: Bev Kerlin <bevkerlin@ozemail.com.au>> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Wills calendars> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4748E6C1.8070302@ozemail.com.au>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > Lyn Whelan wrote:> > Excuse my ignorance! What are Wills Calendars?> > Lyn> >> > > >>> 1877 Thomas Aiken Newell Down > >>> > >>> > >> Record Type Wills Calendars> >>> >> > Hope someone answers you Lyn - I'd like to know too! But I think it's > what is entered under that line which is of more importance!!!! ROFL> > Bev> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 22:13:02 -0500> From: "Robt & Wendy Stevenson" <stevensons@odyssey.on.ca>> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Wills calendars> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <007701c82f11$178f0ea0$5805efd1@MUMMY>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > The things that Will puts on his wall to tell the date....> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lyn Whelan" <johnwhelan@xtra.co.nz>> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 9:12 PM> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Wills calendars> > > > Excuse my ignorance! What are Wills Calendars?> > Lyn> >> >>> >>> 1877 Thomas Aiken Newell Down> >>>> >> Record Type Wills Calendars> >>> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:24:07 +1000> From: Bev Kerlin <bevkerlin@ozemail.com.au>> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Bev's offer> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4748EAD7.2060709@ozemail.com.au>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed> > waseely@aol.com wrote:> > Would you, if you have the opportunity, take a look for HUGH MCSHANE b. 1821 - d. 1891 > > Ballyobegan near Kircubbin and Mary Close McShane bc. 1831 - d. 1902 and a couple of Mary McShane's.s born 1852, 1854/> > When you look for a Mary Karr (Carr) perhaps you may look to see whether she has a sister named ELLEN born a year or two prior.> Hi Bill> > Your dates have not been transcribed to Emerald Ancestors yet - births > from 1865 and there are no deaths for those two prime individuals.> > This is an "off chance" Ellen's marriage - I don't know if she is yours > but she was in Newtownards too.> > Record Type Civil Marriage> Date of Marriage 23 Mar 1850> Groom Name hugh CARSON> Bride Name ellen KERR> Church Greyabbey Presbyterian Church> Parish Greyabbey> Civil District Newtownards> County Down> > Not too much help for you!> > Good luck> Bev> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:25:36 +1000> From: Bev Kerlin <bevkerlin@ozemail.com.au>> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Wills calendars> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4748EB30.5060800@ozemail.com.au>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > Robt & Wendy Stevenson wrote:> > The things that Will puts on his wall to tell the date....> >> > -> Hysterical laughter here Wendy!!!!! You're as quick as a flash!!!!!> > Bev> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:43:19 +1000> From: Bev Kerlin <bevkerlin@ozemail.com.au>> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] requesting lookup> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4748EF57.6030003@ozemail.com.au>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > Alison Aldersea wrote:> > Hi everyone,> > My subscription to Emerald Ancstors has run out and I am hoping someone out there may be willing to do a quick look-up for me. It is not strictly Co Down, as some of the family originated in Antrim...> > I have found an James Fleming in the initial search-in the 1841 Census (Antrim). Could somebody see what the details are please.> > > Hi Alison> > I have to stick my nose in here! I believe these people could well have > been in one household and the last 5 children have been allocated to the > Grandparents. I have copied them in the order of the transcription, but > I feel they are probably in the wrong order. More likely that the 28 yo > Hugh would have children of 7 and under, than the 57 yo Hugh. You will > know of course. > > Cheers> Bev> > 1841 Hugh FLEMING 28 Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name Hugh FLEMING> Age 28> Marital Status Married> Relationship in Household Head of Household> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 Jane FLEMING 28 Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name Jane FLEMING> Age 28> Marital Status Married> Relationship in Household Wife> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 Samuel FLEMING 11 m Vow Finvoy Antrim> Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name Samuel FLEMING> Age 11 m> Relationship in Household Son> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 Hugh FLEMING 57 Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name Hugh FLEMING> Age 57> Marital Status Married> Relationship in Household Head of Household> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 Nancy FLEMING 63 Vow Finvoy Antrim > ecord Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name Nancy FLEMING> Age 63> Marital Status Married> Relationship in Household Wife> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 Matty FLEMING 7 Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name Matty FLEMING> Age 7> Relationship in Household Daughter> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 William FLEMING na Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name William FLEMING> Age na> Relationship in Household Son> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 John FLEMING na Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name John FLEMING> Age na> Relationship in Household Son> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 Ann FLEMING na Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name Ann FLEMING> Age na> Relationship in Household Daughter> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 James FLEMING na Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name James FLEMING> Age na> Relationship in Household Son> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > > ------------------------------> > To contact the NIR-DOWN list administrator, send an email to> NIR-DOWN-admin@rootsweb.com.> > To post a message to the NIR-DOWN mailing list, send an email to NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com.> > __________________________________________________________> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the> email with no additional text.> > > End of NIR-DOWN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 519> **************************************** _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! 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Alison My problem was the reverse.?? In the scottish census of 1851 my grandparents were listed as 35 and 39 with children ages 24 and 21.?? Instead they should have been 55 and 59 years old. Your family could have been more likely 40 and 43 since a 4 could look like a 6.? then Mom would have been abt 37 when having the child.??? Can you ask someone to look at the real census instead of the? transcribed version to prove the numbers of the ages????? Good luck Lindsey -----Original Message----- From: Charles Doll <padcfd@sbcglobal.net> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 6:01 pm Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] thanks for look up Dear Bev, I have seen the many requests for your help so I wonder if you could help me. I have tried for years to get info on my Campbell family . I need the names of my gr-gr-grandfather Robert Campbell's parents. he was born in 1791 or 1794 I think in Ireland not sure he married Sarah Clemens in abt 1806 and had twelfve children. He had a farm in Loughbrickland No. Ireland. Thank you for any help you may give me. Phyllis Doll Alison Aldersea <aesredla@hotmail.com> wrote: Many thanks Bev. I am not sure these fit in with my family yet. I found a similar situation, as you mentioned, in the 1851 census . They had a 63 yo and 60 yo couple as having a 3 year old daughter.If I could be sure that these were grandparents and not parents I would be failry certain they were my family. Does anyone know if it was common to make such mistakes or maybe if the real parents were dead or missing would they have said they were daughters/sons for custody issues? How likely was it for 57 yo women to have babies in those days? Alison> From: nir-down-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: NIR-DOWN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 519> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:01:16 -0700> > > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: Wills calendars (Bev Kerlin)> 2. Re: Wills calendars (Robt & Wendy Stevenson)> 3. Re: Bev's offer (Bev Kerlin)> 4. Re: Wills calendars (Bev Kerlin)> 5. Re: requesting lookup (Bev Kerlin)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:06:41 +1000> From: Bev Kerlin > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Wills calendars> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4748E6C1.8070302@ozemail.com.au>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > Lyn Whelan wrote:> > Excuse my ignorance! What are Wills Calendars?> > Lyn> >> > > >>> 1877 Thomas Aiken Newell Down > >>> > >>> > >> Record Type Wills Calendars> >>> >> > Hope someone answers you Lyn - I'd like to know too! But I think it's > what is entered un! der that line which is of more importance!!!! ROFL> > Bev> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 22:13:02 -0500> From: "Robt & Wendy Stevenson" > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Wills calendars> To: > Message-ID: <007701c82f11$178f0ea0$5805efd1@MUMMY>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > The things that Will puts on his wall to tell the date....> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lyn Whelan" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 9:12 PM> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Wills calendars> > > > Excuse my ignorance! What are Wills Calendars?> > Lyn> >> >>> >>> 1877 Thomas Aiken Newell Down> >>>> >> Record Type Wills Calendars> >>> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes! in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > > --------------- ---------------> > Message: 3> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:24:07 +1000> From: Bev Kerlin > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Bev's offer> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4748EAD7.2060709@ozemail.com.au>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed> > waseely@aol.com wrote:> > Would you, if you have the opportunity, take a look for HUGH MCSHANE b. 1821 - d. 1891 > > Ballyobegan near Kircubbin and Mary Close McShane bc. 1831 - d. 1902 and a couple of Mary McShane's.s born 1852, 1854/> > When you look for a Mary Karr (Carr) perhaps you may look to see whether she has a sister named ELLEN born a year or two prior.> Hi Bill> > Your dates have not been transcribed to Emerald Ancestors yet - births > from 1865 and there are no deaths for those two prime individuals.> > This is an "off chance" Ellen's marriage - I don't know if she is yours > but she was in Newtownards too.> > Record Type Civil Marriage> Date of Marriage 23 Mar 1850> Groom Name hugh ! CARSON> Bride Name ellen KERR> Church Greyabbey Presbyterian Church> Parish Greyabbey> Civil District Newtownards> County Down> > Not too much help for you!> > Good luck> Bev> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:25:36 +1000> From: Bev Kerlin > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Wills calendars> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4748EB30.5060800@ozemail.com.au>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > Robt & Wendy Stevenson wrote:> > The things that Will puts on his wall to tell the date....> >> > -> Hysterical laughter here Wendy!!!!! You're as quick as a flash!!!!!> > Bev> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:43:19 +1000> From: Bev Kerlin > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] requesting lookup> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4748EF57.6030003@ozemail.com.au>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > Alison ! Aldersea wrote:> > Hi everyone,> > My subscription to Emerald Ancstors has run out and I am hoping someone out there may be willing to do a quick look-up for me. It is not strictly Co Down, as some of the family originated in Antrim...> > I have found an James Fleming in the initial search-in the 1841 Census (Antrim). Could somebody see what the details are please.> > > Hi Alison> > I have to stick my nose in here! I believe these people could well have > been in one household and the last 5 children have been allocated to the > Grandparents. I have copied them in the order of the transcription, but > I feel they are probably in the wrong order. More likely that the 28 yo > Hugh would have children of 7 and under, than the 57 yo Hugh. You will > know of course. > > Cheers> Bev> > 1841 Hugh FLEMING 28 Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name Hugh FLEMING> Age 28> Marital Status Married> Relationship in Household Head of Household> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 Jane FLEMING 2! 8 Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name Jane FLEMING> Age 28> Marital Status Married> Relationship in Household Wife> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 Samuel FLEMING 11 m Vow Finvoy Antrim> Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name Samuel FLEMING> Age 11 m> Relationship in Household Son> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 Hugh FLEMING 57 Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name Hugh FLEMING> Age 57> Marital Status Married> Relationship in Household Head of Household> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 Nancy FLEMING 63 Vow Finvoy Antrim > ecord Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name Nancy FLEMING> Age 63> Marital Status Married> Relationship in Household Wife> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 Matty FLEMING 7 Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Ab! stracts> Record Date 1841> Name Matty FLEMING> Age 7> Relationship in Household Daughter> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 William FLEMING na Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name William FLEMING> Age na> Relationship in Household Son> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 John FLEMING na Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name John FLEMING> Age na> Relationship in Household Son> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 Ann FLEMING na Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name Ann FLEMING> Age na> Relationship in Household Daughter> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 James FLEMING na Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name James FLEMING> Age na> Relationship in Household Son> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > > ------------------------------> > To contact the NIR-! 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Hi, Mistakes are common in transcriptions, but!!!so is having a child at 57 yrs old... remember no birth control... and many women were/are fertal in their 50's...I have a lot of relatives having children into their 50's NeldaNelda Percival IBSSG Volunteer Administrator "Gilpin & Bonstein DNA Project websites - http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/~~ LCG&DNARG: http://www.rootsweb.com/~molcgdrg/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Genealogy & DNA are like husband & wife: They work so much better when paired up properly..." Peter > To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:06:39 -0500> From: lafinken@aol.com> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] thanks for look up> > Alison> > My problem was the reverse.?? In the scottish census of 1851 my grandparents were listed as 35 and 39 with children ages 24 and 21.?? Instead they should have been 55 and 59 years old.> > Your family could have been more likely 40 and 43 since a 4 could look like a 6.? then Mom would> have been abt 37 when having the child.??? Can you ask someone to look at the real census instead> of the? transcribed version to prove the numbers of the ages?????> > Good luck> > Lindsey> > > -----Original Message-----> From: Charles Doll <padcfd@sbcglobal.net>> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 6:01 pm> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] thanks for look up> > > > Dear Bev, I have seen the many requests for your help so I wonder if you could > help me. I have tried for years to get info on my Campbell family . I need the > names of my gr-gr-grandfather Robert Campbell's parents. he was born in 1791 or > 1794 I think in Ireland not sure he married Sarah Clemens in abt 1806 and had > twelfve children. He had a farm in Loughbrickland No. Ireland. Thank you for > any help you may give me. Phyllis Doll> > Alison Aldersea <aesredla@hotmail.com> wrote: > Many thanks Bev. I am not sure these fit in with my family yet. I found a > similar situation, as you mentioned, in the 1851 census . They had a 63 yo and > 60 yo couple as having a 3 year old daughter.If I could be sure that these were > grandparents and not parents I would be failry certain they were my family. Does > anyone know if it was common to make such mistakes or maybe if the real parents > were dead or missing would they have said they were daughters/sons for custody > issues? How likely was it for 57 yo women to have babies in those days?> Alison> From: nir-down-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: NIR-DOWN Digest, Vol 2, > Issue 519> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:01:16 -0700> > > > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: Wills calendars (Bev Kerlin)> 2. Re: Wills calendars > (Robt & Wendy Stevenson)> 3. Re: Bev's offer (Bev Kerlin)> 4. Re: Wills > calendars (Bev Kerlin)> 5. Re: requesting lookup (Bev Kerlin)> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > > Message: 1> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:06:41 +1000> From: Bev Kerlin > Subject: > Re: [NIR-DOWN] Wills calendars> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: > <4748E6C1.8070302@ozemail.com.au>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; > format=flowed> > Lyn Whelan wrote:> > Excuse my ignorance! What are Wills > Calendars?> > Lyn> >> > > >>> 1877 Thomas Aiken Newell Down > >>> > >>> > >> > Record Type Wills Calendars> >>> >> > Hope someone answers you Lyn - I'd like to > know too! But I think it's > what is entered un!> der that line which is of more importance!!!! ROFL> > Bev> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 22:13:02 > -0500> From: "Robt & Wendy Stevenson" > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Wills calendars> > To: > Message-ID: <007701c82f11$178f0ea0$5805efd1@MUMMY>> Content-Type: > text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > The > things that Will puts on his wall to tell the date....> > ----- Original Message > ----- > From: "Lyn Whelan" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 9:12 PM> > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Wills calendars> > > > Excuse my ignorance! What are > Wills Calendars?> > Lyn> >> >>> >>> 1877 Thomas Aiken Newell Down> >>>> >> > Record Type Wills Calendars> >>> >> > -------------------------------> > To > unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes!> in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > > ---------------> ---------------> > Message: 3> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:24:07 +1000> From: Bev > Kerlin > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Bev's offer> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4748EAD7.2060709@ozemail.com.au>> Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=UTF-8; format=flowed> > waseely@aol.com wrote:> > Would you, if you have > the opportunity, take a look for HUGH MCSHANE b. 1821 - d. 1891 > > Ballyobegan > near Kircubbin and Mary Close McShane bc. 1831 - d. 1902 and a couple of Mary > McShane's.s born 1852, 1854/> > When you look for a Mary Karr (Carr) perhaps you > may look to see whether she has a sister named ELLEN born a year or two prior.> > Hi Bill> > Your dates have not been transcribed to Emerald Ancestors yet - > births > from 1865 and there are no deaths for those two prime individuals.> > > This is an "off chance" Ellen's marriage - I don't know if she is yours > but > she was in Newtownards too.> > Record Type Civil Marriage> Date of Marriage 23 > Mar 1850> Groom Name hugh !> CARSON> Bride Name ellen KERR> Church Greyabbey Presbyterian Church> Parish > Greyabbey> Civil District Newtownards> County Down> > Not too much help for > you!> > Good luck> Bev> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> > Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:25:36 +1000> From: Bev Kerlin > Subject: Re: > [NIR-DOWN] Wills calendars> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: > <4748EB30.5060800@ozemail.com.au>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; > format=flowed> > Robt & Wendy Stevenson wrote:> > The things that Will puts on > his wall to tell the date....> >> > -> Hysterical laughter here Wendy!!!!! > You're as quick as a flash!!!!!> > Bev> > > ------------------------------> > > Message: 5> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:43:19 +1000> From: Bev Kerlin > Subject: > Re: [NIR-DOWN] requesting lookup> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: > <4748EF57.6030003@ozemail.com.au>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; > format=flowed> > Alison !> Aldersea wrote:> > Hi everyone,> > My subscription to Emerald Ancstors> has run out and I am hoping someone out there may be willing to do a quick > look-up for me. It is not strictly Co Down, as some of the family originated in > Antrim...> > I have found an James Fleming in the initial search-in the 1841 > Census (Antrim). Could somebody see what the details are please.> > > Hi Alison> > > I have to stick my nose in here! I believe these people could well have > been > in one household and the last 5 children have been allocated to the > > Grandparents. I have copied them in the order of the transcription, but > I feel > they are probably in the wrong order. More likely that the 28 yo > Hugh would > have children of 7 and under, than the 57 yo Hugh. You will > know of course. > > > Cheers> Bev> > 1841 Hugh FLEMING 28 Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census > 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name Hugh FLEMING> Age 28> Marital Status > Married> Relationship in Household Head of Household> Occupation > Townland Vow> > Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 Jane FLEMING 2!> 8 Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name > Jane FLEMING> Age 28> Marital Status Married> Relationship in Household Wife> > Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 Samuel FLEMING > 11 m Vow Finvoy Antrim> Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> > Name Samuel FLEMING> Age 11 m> Relationship in Household Son> Occupation > > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 Hugh FLEMING 57 Vow Finvoy > Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name Hugh FLEMING> > Age 57> Marital Status Married> Relationship in Household Head of Household> > Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 Nancy FLEMING 63 > Vow Finvoy Antrim > ecord Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name > Nancy FLEMING> Age 63> Marital Status Married> Relationship in Household Wife> > Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 Matty FLEMING 7 > Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Ab!> stracts> Record Date 1841> Name Matty FLEMING> Age 7> Relationship in > Household Daughter> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > > 1841 William FLEMING na Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> > Record Date 1841> Name William FLEMING> Age na> Relationship in Household Son> > Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 John FLEMING na > Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name > John FLEMING> Age na> Relationship in Household Son> Occupation > Townland Vow> > Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 Ann FLEMING na Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record > Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name Ann FLEMING> Age na> > Relationship in Household Daughter> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> > County Antrim> > 1841 James FLEMING na Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census > 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name James FLEMING> Age na> Relationship in > Household Son> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > > > ------------------------------> > To contact the> NIR-!> DOWN list administrator, send an email to> NIR-DOWN-admin@rootsweb.com.> > To > post a message to the NIR-DOWN mailing list, send an email to > NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com.> > __________________________________________________________> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com> > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the> email with no additional text.> > > End of NIR-DOWN Digest, Vol 2, Issue > 519> ****************************************> _________________________________________________________________> It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au> http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message> > > ________________________________________________________________________> Email and AIM finally together. 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Could someone please look up the deaths of James Bultitude and his wife, Elizabeth-after 1911 and possibly in Belfast. Thanks. Sandra in Canada

Just out of curiousity, would any records exist to be able to look up a birth in Hilltown in 1845 or 1846? My g-g-grandfather Peter McAvoy was born that year then came to America (apparently alone) in 1858 to live with another Hilltown family, the McLaughlins, in Cattaraugus County NY. Shawn in AZ

Excuse my ignorance! What are Wills Calendars? Lyn > >> 1877 Thomas Aiken Newell Down >> > Record Type Wills Calendars >

Dear Bev, I have seen the many requests for your help so I wonder if you could help me. I have tried for years to get info on my Campbell family . I need the names of my gr-gr-grandfather Robert Campbell's parents. he was born in 1791 or 1794 I think in Ireland not sure he married Sarah Clemens in abt 1806 and had twelfve children. He had a farm in Loughbrickland No. Ireland. Thank you for any help you may give me. Phyllis Doll Alison Aldersea <aesredla@hotmail.com> wrote: Many thanks Bev. I am not sure these fit in with my family yet. I found a similar situation, as you mentioned, in the 1851 census . They had a 63 yo and 60 yo couple as having a 3 year old daughter.If I could be sure that these were grandparents and not parents I would be failry certain they were my family. Does anyone know if it was common to make such mistakes or maybe if the real parents were dead or missing would they have said they were daughters/sons for custody issues? How likely was it for 57 yo women to have babies in those days? Alison> From: nir-down-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: NIR-DOWN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 519> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:01:16 -0700> > > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: Wills calendars (Bev Kerlin)> 2. Re: Wills calendars (Robt & Wendy Stevenson)> 3. Re: Bev's offer (Bev Kerlin)> 4. Re: Wills calendars (Bev Kerlin)> 5. Re: requesting lookup (Bev Kerlin)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:06:41 +1000> From: Bev Kerlin > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Wills calendars> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4748E6C1.8070302@ozemail.com.au>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > Lyn Whelan wrote:> > Excuse my ignorance! What are Wills Calendars?> > Lyn> >> > > >>> 1877 Thomas Aiken Newell Down > >>> > >>> > >> Record Type Wills Calendars> >>> >> > Hope someone answers you Lyn - I'd like to know too! But I think it's > what is entered un! der that line which is of more importance!!!! ROFL> > Bev> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 22:13:02 -0500> From: "Robt & Wendy Stevenson" > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Wills calendars> To: > Message-ID: <007701c82f11$178f0ea0$5805efd1@MUMMY>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > The things that Will puts on his wall to tell the date....> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lyn Whelan" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 9:12 PM> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Wills calendars> > > > Excuse my ignorance! What are Wills Calendars?> > Lyn> >> >>> >>> 1877 Thomas Aiken Newell Down> >>>> >> Record Type Wills Calendars> >>> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes! in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > > --------------- ---------------> > Message: 3> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:24:07 +1000> From: Bev Kerlin > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Bev's offer> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4748EAD7.2060709@ozemail.com.au>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed> > waseely@aol.com wrote:> > Would you, if you have the opportunity, take a look for HUGH MCSHANE b. 1821 - d. 1891 > > Ballyobegan near Kircubbin and Mary Close McShane bc. 1831 - d. 1902 and a couple of Mary McShane's.s born 1852, 1854/> > When you look for a Mary Karr (Carr) perhaps you may look to see whether she has a sister named ELLEN born a year or two prior.> Hi Bill> > Your dates have not been transcribed to Emerald Ancestors yet - births > from 1865 and there are no deaths for those two prime individuals.> > This is an "off chance" Ellen's marriage - I don't know if she is yours > but she was in Newtownards too.> > Record Type Civil Marriage> Date of Marriage 23 Mar 1850> Groom Name hugh ! CARSON> Bride Name ellen KERR> Church Greyabbey Presbyterian Church> Parish Greyabbey> Civil District Newtownards> County Down> > Not too much help for you!> > Good luck> Bev> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:25:36 +1000> From: Bev Kerlin > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Wills calendars> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4748EB30.5060800@ozemail.com.au>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > Robt & Wendy Stevenson wrote:> > The things that Will puts on his wall to tell the date....> >> > -> Hysterical laughter here Wendy!!!!! You're as quick as a flash!!!!!> > Bev> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:43:19 +1000> From: Bev Kerlin > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] requesting lookup> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4748EF57.6030003@ozemail.com.au>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > Alison ! Aldersea wrote:> > Hi everyone,> > My subscription to Emerald Ancstors has run out and I am hoping someone out there may be willing to do a quick look-up for me. It is not strictly Co Down, as some of the family originated in Antrim...> > I have found an James Fleming in the initial search-in the 1841 Census (Antrim). Could somebody see what the details are please.> > > Hi Alison> > I have to stick my nose in here! I believe these people could well have > been in one household and the last 5 children have been allocated to the > Grandparents. I have copied them in the order of the transcription, but > I feel they are probably in the wrong order. More likely that the 28 yo > Hugh would have children of 7 and under, than the 57 yo Hugh. You will > know of course. > > Cheers> Bev> > 1841 Hugh FLEMING 28 Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name Hugh FLEMING> Age 28> Marital Status Married> Relationship in Household Head of Household> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 Jane FLEMING 2! 8 Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name Jane FLEMING> Age 28> Marital Status Married> Relationship in Household Wife> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 Samuel FLEMING 11 m Vow Finvoy Antrim> Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name Samuel FLEMING> Age 11 m> Relationship in Household Son> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 Hugh FLEMING 57 Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name Hugh FLEMING> Age 57> Marital Status Married> Relationship in Household Head of Household> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 Nancy FLEMING 63 Vow Finvoy Antrim > ecord Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name Nancy FLEMING> Age 63> Marital Status Married> Relationship in Household Wife> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 Matty FLEMING 7 Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Ab! stracts> Record Date 1841> Name Matty FLEMING> Age 7> Relationship in Household Daughter> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 William FLEMING na Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name William FLEMING> Age na> Relationship in Household Son> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 John FLEMING na Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name John FLEMING> Age na> Relationship in Household Son> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 Ann FLEMING na Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name Ann FLEMING> Age na> Relationship in Household Daughter> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > 1841 James FLEMING na Vow Finvoy Antrim > Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts> Record Date 1841> Name James FLEMING> Age na> Relationship in Household Son> Occupation > Townland Vow> Parish Finvoy> County Antrim> > > ------------------------------> > To contact the NIR-! DOWN list administrator, send an email to> NIR-DOWN-admin@rootsweb.com.> > To post a message to the NIR-DOWN mailing list, send an email to NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com.> > __________________________________________________________> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the> email with no additional text.> > > End of NIR-DOWN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 519> **************************************** _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! 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Alison Aldersea wrote: > Hi everyone, > My subscription to Emerald Ancstors has run out and I am hoping someone out there may be willing to do a quick look-up for me. It is not strictly Co Down, as some of the family originated in Antrim... > I have found an James Fleming in the initial search-in the 1841 Census (Antrim). Could somebody see what the details are please. > Hi Alison I have to stick my nose in here! I believe these people could well have been in one household and the last 5 children have been allocated to the Grandparents. I have copied them in the order of the transcription, but I feel they are probably in the wrong order. More likely that the 28 yo Hugh would have children of 7 and under, than the 57 yo Hugh. You will know of course. Cheers Bev 1841 Hugh FLEMING 28 Vow Finvoy Antrim Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts Record Date 1841 Name Hugh FLEMING Age 28 Marital Status Married Relationship in Household Head of Household Occupation Townland Vow Parish Finvoy County Antrim 1841 Jane FLEMING 28 Vow Finvoy Antrim Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts Record Date 1841 Name Jane FLEMING Age 28 Marital Status Married Relationship in Household Wife Occupation Townland Vow Parish Finvoy County Antrim 1841 Samuel FLEMING 11 m Vow Finvoy Antrim Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts Record Date 1841 Name Samuel FLEMING Age 11 m Relationship in Household Son Occupation Townland Vow Parish Finvoy County Antrim 1841 Hugh FLEMING 57 Vow Finvoy Antrim Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts Record Date 1841 Name Hugh FLEMING Age 57 Marital Status Married Relationship in Household Head of Household Occupation Townland Vow Parish Finvoy County Antrim 1841 Nancy FLEMING 63 Vow Finvoy Antrim ecord Type Census 1841 Abstracts Record Date 1841 Name Nancy FLEMING Age 63 Marital Status Married Relationship in Household Wife Occupation Townland Vow Parish Finvoy County Antrim 1841 Matty FLEMING 7 Vow Finvoy Antrim Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts Record Date 1841 Name Matty FLEMING Age 7 Relationship in Household Daughter Occupation Townland Vow Parish Finvoy County Antrim 1841 William FLEMING na Vow Finvoy Antrim Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts Record Date 1841 Name William FLEMING Age na Relationship in Household Son Occupation Townland Vow Parish Finvoy County Antrim 1841 John FLEMING na Vow Finvoy Antrim Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts Record Date 1841 Name John FLEMING Age na Relationship in Household Son Occupation Townland Vow Parish Finvoy County Antrim 1841 Ann FLEMING na Vow Finvoy Antrim Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts Record Date 1841 Name Ann FLEMING Age na Relationship in Household Daughter Occupation Townland Vow Parish Finvoy County Antrim 1841 James FLEMING na Vow Finvoy Antrim Record Type Census 1841 Abstracts Record Date 1841 Name James FLEMING Age na Relationship in Household Son Occupation Townland Vow Parish Finvoy County Antrim

Robt & Wendy Stevenson wrote: > The things that Will puts on his wall to tell the date.... > > - Hysterical laughter here Wendy!!!!! You're as quick as a flash!!!!! Bev

waseely@aol.com wrote: > Would you, if you have the opportunity, take a look for HUGH MCSHANE b. 1821 - d. 1891 > Ballyobegan near Kircubbin and Mary Close McShane bc. 1831 - d. 1902 and a couple of Mary McShane's.s born 1852, 1854/ > When you look for a Mary Karr (Carr) perhaps you may look to see whether she has a sister named ELLEN born a year or two prior. Hi Bill Your dates have not been transcribed to Emerald Ancestors yet - births from 1865 and there are no deaths for those two prime individuals. This is an "off chance" Ellen's marriage - I don't know if she is yours but she was in Newtownards too. Record Type Civil Marriage Date of Marriage 23 Mar 1850 Groom Name hugh CARSON Bride Name ellen KERR Church Greyabbey Presbyterian Church Parish Greyabbey Civil District Newtownards County Down Not too much help for you! Good luck Bev

Lyn Whelan wrote: > Excuse my ignorance! What are Wills Calendars? > Lyn > > >>> 1877 Thomas Aiken Newell Down >>> >>> >> Record Type Wills Calendars >> >> Hope someone answers you Lyn - I'd like to know too! But I think it's what is entered under that line which is of more importance!!!! ROFL Bev

Record Type Civil Marriage Date of Marriage 05 Sep 1918 Groom Name peter FARRELL Bride Name elizabeth CUNNINGHAM Church Kilkeel Roman Catholic Church Parish Kilkeel District 2 Civil District Kilkeel County Down This one has got to be them, do you know if there is any other information on them? date of birth jobs or anything?Thanks very very much :-)Kevin _________________________________________________________________ Get the next generation of Windows Live services now! http://get.live.com

Hi everyone, My subscription to Emerald Ancstors has run out and I am hoping someone out there may be willing to do a quick look-up for me. It is not strictly Co Down, as some of the family originated in Antrim... I have found an James Fleming in the initial search-in the 1841 Census (Antrim). Could somebody see what the details are please. Thank you in anticipation. Alison ALdersea > From: nir-down-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: NIR-DOWN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 517> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 16:26:44 -0700> > > > Today's Topics:> > 1. US Passport Collection at ancestry.com (Claire McConville)> 2. Re: [Fwd: Re: Emerald Ancestors Lookup (Don Ondracek)> 3. Re: Emerald Ancestors Lookup Request Deaths] (DLCulhane@cs.com)> 4. Re: Hugh's reply to Allen (and a HANNA) (Jim & Sherry Beattie)> 5. Lookup again Bev...! (ascullion)> 6. I am researching my family history and was wondering if you> knew of an Elizabeth Cunningham or Peter (Kevin Sproule)> 7. 1901 Census Burrenreagh Townland Kilcoo CP Kilkeel PLU> (Peter J Meaney)> 8. 1901 Census Bryansford Road & and Castlewellan Road> (Peter J Meaney)> 9. Re: Emerald Ancestors Lookup Request Deaths (Bev Kerlin)> 10. Re: US Passport Collection at ancestry.com (Bev Kerlin)> 11. Re: Lookup again Bev (Bev Kerlin)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 13:06:54 -0000> From: "Claire McConville" <clairybums@dsl.pipex.com>> Subject: [NIR-DOWN] US Passport Collection at ancestry.com> To: "Down Mailing List" <NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com>,> <NIR-ARMAGH@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <016801c82e9a$e2f5f3f0$a8e1dbd0$@pipex.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > Hi All,> > > > Sorry if this has already been mentioned. For those of you who haven't heard> yet, there is a new collection available at www.ancestry.com for passport> applications 1795-1925. These applications included a small photo of the> applicant, as well as information as to their father's name, where they were> born, etc. I'm actually thinking of subscribing now!> > > > If you click on the link above, you will see a link for the new collection> at the bottom of the page. Good Luck!> > > > Claire McConville> > > > www.claires-rosleaancestry.co.uk > > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:26:53 -0500> From: "Don Ondracek" <dondra30@bellsouth.net>> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] [Fwd: Re: Emerald Ancestors Lookup> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <000901c82e9d$aeb0baa0$5f01a8c0@Don>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > For Bev> > Would you lookup the following for me.> > Andrew McGraw b. abt 1812> Annie Smith b. abt 1802-1812> Married April 1830 Ballee, Down Ireland> Came to St Andrews NB abt 1830-31> > Thank you,> > Don in GA> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:51:47 EST> From: DLCulhane@cs.com> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Emerald Ancestors Lookup Request Deaths]> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <c9b.211a4ff8.34798673@cs.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > Bev:> > I'd be very grateful if you could look for deaths of James Johnston between > 1900 and 1906, probably in Co. Monaghan but possibly Cavan, Fermanagh, Armagh, > Down (also possibly Meath and Louth, but I know they're not in Ulster). Sorry > it's such a common name.> > Diane > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:54:05 -0500> From: "Jim & Sherry Beattie" <jim.sherrybeattie@kos.net>> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Hugh's reply to Allen (and a HANNA)> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <003e01c82ea9$dc38a670$0201fea9@Sherry>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > Thanks Hugh> all the best> Jim & Sherry Beattie> jim.sherrybeattie@kos.net> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hugh Macartney" <hhmacartney@shaw.ca>> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 11:31 PM> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Hugh's reply to Allen (and a HANNA)> > > > There is also a gravestone for a Robert and Jane Allen of Belfast in > > Bangor> > Abbey.> > (Small marble shield in a high railed enclosure, probably 1840-60.> > Interred here the remains of Robert Allen of Belfast. Also Jane, his > > beloved> > wife, with four of their children who died young.> > Since they were buried in Bangor it suggests at least one of them was from> > there. Looking at the 1843 Belfast Directory I see a John Allen, > > Shoemaker,> > 53 North Queen St. Another John Allen was a bricklayer, 32 Church Lane.> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim & Sherry Beattie" <jim.sherrybeattie@kos.net>> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 4:18 PM> > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Hugh's reply to Allen (and a HANNA)> >> >> >> Hi Hugh> >>> >> Thanks for the info re: John and Agnes. I was not aware of their final> >> resting spot. I am trying to find info re my greatgrandmother Agnes Jane> >> Allen who gave birth to Margaret Allen on December 24 1888/9. No father > >> is> >> listed on this birth cert. My grandmother however listed a John Allen as> >> her> >> father on her marriage cert to my grandfather James Beattie of Cottown in> >> 1906. It is not an easy puzzle to put together for sure. THe only other> >> clue> >> that I have is a letter to my grandmother in 1970 by her cousin Madge> >> Campbell of Rathmore St off Ravenhill Rd Belfast that mentioned the names> >> of> >> Archie, John and Freddie Allen. My grandmother never spoke of her family> >> that I know of when she was alive and my father knew nothing of them. > >> Like> >> I> >> said, not an easy puzzle to fit together.> >> Anyway, thanks a million for the cemetery info> >> all the best> >> Jim> >> jim.sherrybeattie@kos.net> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Hugh Macartney" <hhmacartney@shaw.ca>> >> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com>> >> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:31 PM> >> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Allen (and a HANNA)> >>> >>> >>> Likely you are aware of John Allen & Agnes's gravestone in Bangor > >>> Abbey.> >>> She died 1883 Dec. 22. Daughter Sarah d. June 7 1885. John d. June 19> >>> 1899.> >>> The inscription appears to have been arranged by Margaret Major. I think> >>> these Allens were related to the Allens of Crawfordsburn and Ballygrot> >>> (now> >>> Helen's Bay).> >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Jim & Sherry Beattie" <jim.sherrybeattie@kos.net>> >>> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com>> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 3:18 PM> >>> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Allen (and a HANNA)> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Bev> >>>>> >>>> Thanks a million and all the best> >>>> Jim> >>>> jim.sherrybeattie@kos.net> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > Record Type Civil Birth> >>>>> Date of Birth 21 Nov 1870> >>>>> Name Agnes Elizabeth ALLEN> >>>>> Gender F> >>>>> Fathers Name John ALLEN> >>>>> Mothers Maiden Name Agnes Elizabeth MCKEE> >>>>> Civil District Newtownards> >>>>> Sub District Bangor> >>>>> County Down> >>>>>> >>>>> Record Type Civil Birth> >>>>> Date of Birth 8 Sep 1870> >>>>> Name Agnes Jane ALLEN> >>>>> Gender F> >>>>> Fathers Name John ALLEN> >>>>> Mothers Maiden Name Agnes HANNA> >>>>> Civil District Newtownards> >>>>> Sub District Bangor> >>>>> County Down> >>>>>> >>>>> No transcription for Margaret, Jim.> >>>>>> >>>>> Cheers> >>>>> Bev> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> >>>>> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -------------------------------> >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> >>>> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >>>> >>>> >>> -------------------------------> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> >>> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> -------------------------------> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 13:49:03 +0000> From: ascullion <ascullion@blueyonder.co.uk>> Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Lookup again Bev...!> To: NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <474042CF.4090008@blueyonder.co.uk>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > Truly fab offer hope you can have a look for Birth of either of the > following> > and if possible their marriage...> > William McCulloch(or McCullough) bn Ballywalter c 1825> > Mary Kerr(or Carr) bn Kirkcubbin c.1832> > married c.1848 Newtonards> > Any parents details would obviously be another immense leap thanks ..> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 6> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:04:44 +0000> From: Kevin Sproule <kevsproule@msn.com>> Subject: [NIR-DOWN] I am researching my family history and was> wondering if you knew of an Elizabeth Cunningham or Peter> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <BAY102-W399DE8E0D3BD91EA4FFF34DF7B0@phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > > I am researching my family history and was wondering if you knew of an Elizabeth Cunningham or Peter Farrell from Greencastle?> My great Uncle 'Alphonsus Farrell' still lives at Greencastle and breeds, deals & looks after horses there. My Grandmother who is still living is Kathleen Farrell and is his brother. You may also know peter-joe who lived behind the castle and you need to drive on the shore to get round to his house? he is around 87 now, and is in a care home on the mountain road in kilkeel town.> > Thanks very much> Kevin Sproule :-)> _________________________________________________________________> Get the next generation of Windows Live services now!> http://get.live.com> > ------------------------------> > Message: 7> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:59:52 -0000> From: "Peter J Meaney" <peterjmeaney@ntlworld.com>> Subject: [NIR-DOWN] 1901 Census Burrenreagh Townland Kilcoo CP Kilkeel> PLU> To: "Nir-Down@Rootsweb.Com" <nir-down@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <EAEBLOHJPBLMGOBIKBIGOENCCFAA.peterjmeaney@ntlworld.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > The 1901 census for Burrenreagh townland Kilcoo Civil Parish is now on my> website at> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~meaneypj/index.htm by clicking on> the 'Latest updates' link.> > The search engine has also been re-indexed and updated.> > Regards Pete> mailto:Peterjmeaney@ntlworld.com> > PS. If you find the information on my site useful please be kind enough to> leave a brief message in my guestbook.> > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 8> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 21:28:42 -0000> From: "Peter J Meaney" <peterjmeaney@ntlworld.com>> Subject: [NIR-DOWN] 1901 Census Bryansford Road & and Castlewellan> Road> To: "Nir-Down@Rootsweb.Com" <nir-down@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <EAEBLOHJPBLMGOBIKBIGEENDCFAA.peterjmeaney@ntlworld.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > I wonder if anyone on the list with experience researching the Newcastle> area knows which LDS films contain the 1901 census for Castlewellan Road &> Bryansford Road?> > > Pete.> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 9> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 08:42:33 +1000> From: Bev Kerlin <bevkerlin@ozemail.com.au>> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Emerald Ancestors Lookup Request Deaths> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4748A8D9.90605@ozemail.com.au>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > Dawn Williams wrote:> > Hi, Bev. Thanks very much. Am confused, I guess, because I'm used to the > > Scottish records available on Scotlandspeople, which give so much > > information. Are there death certs available which might state parents > > names> > > Hi Dawn> > I don't know, because I've never been fortunate enough to find the right > deaths!!! A friend told me he was going to his LDS centre to research > the Probates, and this gentleman is a good researcher. Perhaps you > could try that also?!> > Cheers> Bev> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 10> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 08:46:09 +1000> From: Bev Kerlin <bevkerlin@ozemail.com.au>> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] US Passport Collection at ancestry.com> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4748A9B1.7040509@ozemail.com.au>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > Claire McConville wrote:> > Hi All,> >> > > >> > Sorry if this has already been mentioned. For those of you who haven't heard> > yet, there is a new collection available at www.ancestry.com for passport> > applications 1795-1925. These applications included a small photo of the> > applicant, as well as information as to their father's name, where they were> > born, etc. I'm actually thinking of subscribing now!> > > How I wish we had the collection for Australia Claire!!!!> > Bev> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 11> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 09:25:58 +1000> From: Bev Kerlin <bevkerlin@ozemail.com.au>> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Lookup again Bev> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4748B306.2040705@ozemail.com.au>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > ascullion wrote:> > Truly fab offer hope you can have a look for Birth of either > Hi - too early for their births' records> > of the following and if possible their marriage...> > William McCulloch(or McCullough) bn Ballywalter c 1825> > Mary Kerr(or Carr) bn Kirkcubbin c.1832> > married c.1848 Newtonards> > Any parents details would obviously be another immense leap thanks ..> > > Record Type Civil Marriage> Date of Marriage 30 Oct 1847> Groom Name william MCCULLOUGH> Bride Name mary KERR> Church Newtownards Civil Registrars Office> Parish Newtownards> Civil District Newtownards> County Down> > Record Type Wills Calendars> Date of Death 20 Apr 1886> Year of Probate 1886> Name William McCullough> County Down> Residence Newtownards> > Checked for their children, but they must have been born before 1865. I > thought that maybe the death in Newtownards could be of interest.> > Good luck> Bev> > > ------------------------------> > To contact the NIR-DOWN list administrator, send an email to> NIR-DOWN-admin@rootsweb.com.> > To post a message to the NIR-DOWN mailing list, send an email to NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com.> > __________________________________________________________> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the> email with no additional text.> > > End of NIR-DOWN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 517> **************************************** _________________________________________________________________ What are you waiting for? Join Lavalife FREE http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D30288&_t=764581033&_r=email_taglines_Join_free_OCT07&_m=EXT

Jim & Sherry Beattie wrote: > Hi Bev > > Again thanks so much for all of your help. I wonder if you might do one more > and then I'll not bother you again. Along the same Allen trail: Archibald > Allen married Margaret 1898 County Down. > Here we go Jim: Record Type Civil Marriage Date of Marriage 8 Feb 1898 Groom Name archibald ALLEN Bride Name margaret TAYLOR Church Ballygilbert Presbyterian Church Parish Bangor Civil District Newtownards County Down The one and only entry in Down for Archibald - we got lucky!! Bev

Kevin Sproule wrote: > I am researching my family history and was wondering if you knew of an Elizabeth Cunningham or Peter Farrell from Greencastle? > Record Type Civil Marriage Date of Marriage 05 Sep 1918 Groom Name peter FARRELL Bride Name elizabeth CUNNINGHAM Church Kilkeel Roman Catholic Church Parish Kilkeel District 2 Civil District Kilkeel County Down Record Type Civil Marriage Date of Marriage 17 Apr 1890 Groom Name peter FARRELL Bride Name ann SAVAGE Church Rostrevor Roman Catholic Church Parish Kilbroney Civil District Kilkeel County Down Record Type Civil Marriage Date of Marriage 19 Aug 1878 Groom Name peter FARRELL Bride Name mary MCPOLIN Church Banbridge Roman Catholic Church Parish Seapatrick Civil District Banbridge County Down > My great Uncle 'Alphonsus Farrell' still lives at Greencastle and breeds, deals & looks after horses there. My Grandmother who is still living is Kathleen Farrell and is his brother. You may also know peter-joe who lived behind the castle and you need to drive on the shore to get round to his house? he is around 87 now, and is in a care home on the mountain road in kilkeel town. > Wonder if any of that is helpful Kevin? Good luck Bev

DLCulhane@cs.com wrote: > Bev: > > I'd be very grateful if you could look for deaths of James Johnston between > 1900 and 1906, probably in Co. Monaghan but possibly Cavan, Fermanagh, Armagh, > Down (also possibly Meath and Louth, but I know they're not in Ulster). Sorry > it's such a common name. > Record Type Wills Calendars Date of Death 5 Feb 1900 Year of Probate 1908 Name James Johnston County Fermanagh Residence Carrick Record Type Wills Calendars Date of Death 27 Jan 1900 Year of Probate 1900 Name James Johnston County Armagh Residence Tannaghmore Record Type Wills Calendars Date of Death 10 Apr 1901 Year of Probate 1901 Name James Johnston County Down Residence Ballykeelartifinny Record Type Wills Calendars Date of Death 17 Sep 1903 Year of Probate 1904 Name James Johnston County Down Residence Dollingstown Record Type Wills Calendars Date of Death 16 Jul 1903 Year of Probate 1904 Name James Johnston County Fermanagh Residence Aghakeeran That is all that are available Diane. All the best Bev