I think you need to buy a good map of N.Ireland, Bartholo,ews for example. This will give details of all six counties. Google will help by giving you the nearest town. I went through all Griffith's Valuations for Co. Antrim 1861-2 to find every Burnside listed. To go further back you would have to go through the Tithe Aplotments for each place I have listed to get information for the early 1830's. Any Mormon library could get them. GRIFFITH"S VALUATIONS COUNTY ANTRIM 1861-2 Parishes and townlands Burnside listings. Ballymoney, Alex., Seacon Lower James, Drumnahisky Drumnamaul, Hugh, Groggan Ballyscullion, James, Taylorstown Loughguile, William, Ballybreagagh Belfast/Shankill, James, Dock Townparks, George's St. John, Smithfield T.P., Boundary St. Robert, St. George's T.P., Baker St. The Belfast Burnsides may have migrated there from some other Co. Antrim Parish. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Holley" <ljholley@comcast.net> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Burnside FAMILY > Hugh, > > Thank you for the reply! Would you mind telling me where Newry and Drumbo > are located, hopefully they are near Co. Antrim where Robert said he was > born. Do you happen to know where the Burnside name was found in Antrim? > I keep thinking someone may have done research before 1922 and their > material is deposited somewhere. I am coming there in the summer and a > kind person from another list has offered to help me look at PRONI. I am > trying to collect every tiny bit I can before I get there. > > Upon rereading my original email I see I made a hugh mistake - my Robert > reported on his naturlization papers he was born in Co. Antrim and 2 of > his sons said they were born in Co. Down. I apologize for the mistake. I > had one eye dilated this morning and I can barely see straight. > > Linda > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Hugh Macartney <hhmacartney@shaw.ca> >> In County Down the name Burnside was principally found in Newry and >> Drumbo. >> Most of the early Irish records were destroyed in 1922 so the early >> families >> might be difficult to trace. I would suggest you look at the >> International >> Genealogical Index (IGI) for Ireland in your nearest Mormon library and >> see >> if any show up. The 1843 Belfast directory listed only one Burnside - >> Thomas, a bricklayer. Likely he came there from somewhere else. The name >> can >> be either English or Scottish. A Burnside was an American senator in the >> 19th.C. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Linda Holley" <ljholley@comcast.net> >> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:18 AM >> Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Burnside FAMILY >> >> >> > Thought I would post info again about my Burnside family is case >> > someone >> > was new to the list that might have information about this family. My >> > gggggrandfather was Robert Burnside - born abt.1760 who immigrated to >> > American in 1817. He reported on his naturalization paper he was born >> > in >> > Co. Down and 2 of his sons reported in the 1860 census of PA that they >> > were born in Co. Down. >> > >> > Robert's sons were, Willaim, Samuel - born about 1790, Alexander, >> > John/James, and Robert. >> > >> > Thank you, Linda Holley >> > >> > -------------- Original message ---------------------- >> > From: Roxanne Neel <roxanne4mastiffs@verizon.net> >> >> Thank You Fiona! I will put these in a safe place ;-) >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Roxanne >> >> >> >> >> >> Fiona Jones wrote: >> >> >> >> >Hi Roxanne - the site address is: >> >> > >> >> >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/ >> >> >and the BRICKWALL page is at: >> >> > >> >> >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/brickwall.htm >> >> > >> >> >Fiona. >> >> >IGP Co. Down Coordinator >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >> >From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com >> >> >[mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> >> >On Behalf Of Roxanne Neel >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:20 PM >> >> >To: nir-down@rootsweb.com >> >> >Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Fiona's Website [Brickwall section] >> >> > >> >> >Hi Fiona, >> >> >What is the address to your website that includes Brickwalls? Sorry, >> >> >but I've misplaced it :-/ >> >> >Many Thanks, >> >> >Roxanne >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> quotes in >> >> the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marilyn: The Griffith's index on failteromhat.com shows Dugans mostly in Comber civil parish, which is Newtownards RC parish, but the filmed records go back only to 1856 (it's always possible there are earlier records at the parish church). Duggans were more widely scattered, with the largest numbers in Dromore, both civil and RC, records back to 1823 on LDS film 0926081, and Drumballyconey, which is is Annaclone RC parish, records back on 1834 on LDS film 0926074. Even though that's too late for Francis's baptism, you might look for him as a godfather or marriage witness in the late 1840s and early 1850s, before he emigrated. Diane

Hi Marilyn, I don't know if this might be any help but I have a record of a Catherine Gribben born 31 Jan 1833 to Bernard Gribben and Elizabeth Fegan in Kilbroney Parish (Rostrevor area). Mary Star of the Sea is the Catholic Church in the area. I don't know if this is your area in County Down but if it should be the age is about right for marriage in the 1850's Judy In a message dated 1/11/2008 2:23:34 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, bnm29@comcast.net writes: I have been researching a Francis Dugan in County Down, but I believe it's a lost cause since he left for Phila. PA in 1854, and married a Catharine Gribbon in Phila. who had also come from Co. Down. He was born in ca 1827. This was a very early time period for catholic records. My question is, where in Co. Down was the name Dugan/Duggan principally found in that time period? Marilyn Partee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

I have been researching a Francis Dugan in County Down, but I believe it's a lost cause since he left for Phila. PA in 1854, and married a Catharine Gribbon in Phila. who had also come from Co. Down. He was born in ca 1827. This was a very early time period for catholic records. My question is, where in Co. Down was the name Dugan/Duggan principally found in that time period? Marilyn Partee

In County Down the name Burnside was principally found in Newry and Drumbo. Most of the early Irish records were destroyed in 1922 so the early families might be difficult to trace. I would suggest you look at the International Genealogical Index (IGI) for Ireland in your nearest Mormon library and see if any show up. The 1843 Belfast directory listed only one Burnside - Thomas, a bricklayer. Likely he came there from somewhere else. The name can be either English or Scottish. A Burnside was an American senator in the 19th.C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Holley" <ljholley@comcast.net> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:18 AM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Burnside FAMILY > Thought I would post info again about my Burnside family is case someone > was new to the list that might have information about this family. My > gggggrandfather was Robert Burnside - born abt.1760 who immigrated to > American in 1817. He reported on his naturalization paper he was born in > Co. Down and 2 of his sons reported in the 1860 census of PA that they > were born in Co. Down. > > Robert's sons were, Willaim, Samuel - born about 1790, Alexander, > John/James, and Robert. > > Thank you, Linda Holley > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Roxanne Neel <roxanne4mastiffs@verizon.net> >> Thank You Fiona! I will put these in a safe place ;-) >> Best Regards, >> Roxanne >> >> >> Fiona Jones wrote: >> >> >Hi Roxanne - the site address is: >> > >> >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/ >> >and the BRICKWALL page is at: >> > >> >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/brickwall.htm >> > >> >Fiona. >> >IGP Co. Down Coordinator >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com >> >[mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> >On Behalf Of Roxanne Neel >> >Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:20 PM >> >To: nir-down@rootsweb.com >> >Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Fiona's Website [Brickwall section] >> > >> >Hi Fiona, >> >What is the address to your website that includes Brickwalls? Sorry, >> >but I've misplaced it :-/ >> >Many Thanks, >> >Roxanne >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I typed Caora and immediately had a pick of which one I wanted and got the site for family geneology okay polly in Western Australia

Thank you for the information. I have records on William Carson from 1865-1900 in Illinois. He died in 1902 in Iowa. Just no records of who his parents were. I know near Belfast covers a lot of territory. Mary B

Belfast Directory 1862 William Carson, Flesher William Carson, Solicitor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Barringer" <marpaybar@insightbb.com> To: <NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:39 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] (NIR-DOWN) William Carson > Thank you for the information. I have records on William Carson from > 1865-1900 in Illinois. He died in 1902 in Iowa. Just no records of who his > parents were. I know near Belfast covers a lot of territory. > Mary B > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Polly, I immediately checked as soon as I received your post below. I am NOT able to access the Caora Database on www.caora.net. What is the webpage/URL of the site you reached. Nan On Jan 10, 2008, at 7:37 PM, Paulette Kossiedowski wrote: > I typed Caora and immediately had a pick of which one I wanted and > got the site for family geneology okay > polly in Western Australia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I noticed elsewhere you said that William Hugh Carson was born in Belfast. The 1843 Belfast Directory listed: CARSON William, Grocer, tea and wine merchant, 14 Corn Market. Residence 1 Howard St. Robert M., Ship Chanderly stores, 61 Waring St. Robert, Wholesale & Retail grocer, teas dealer & gunpowder merchant, 43 Ann St. Henry, 58 Great Patrick St. Samuel, Gentleman, 28 York St. John, Publican, Shankill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Barringer" <marpaybar@insightbb.com> To: <NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:30 AM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] (BRICKWALL) Carson > Looking for parents of: William Hugh Carson > Born: May 6, 1834 in Ireland. I have census records that state abt. 1834 > but obituarary states 1831. Obituary states born in County Down near > Belfast. He came to America (Illinois) when about 16 years old according > to obituary. > > Would like to know where to search for Ireland records. Thank you. > > Mary R. Barringer > marpaybar@insightbb.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You might ry the IGI for Ireland which you could get at your nearest branch of the Mormon library. Few records exist in the time frame you are searching. Ros Davies lists a lot of County Down Carsons and I think you might need more info to narrow the search. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Barringer" <marpaybar@insightbb.com> To: <NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:30 AM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] (BRICKWALL) Carson > Looking for parents of: William Hugh Carson > Born: May 6, 1834 in Ireland. I have census records that state abt. 1834 > but obituarary states 1831. Obituary states born in County Down near > Belfast. He came to America (Illinois) when about 16 years old according > to obituary. > > Would like to know where to search for Ireland records. Thank you. > > Mary R. Barringer > marpaybar@insightbb.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looking for parents of: William Hugh Carson Born: May 6, 1834 in Ireland. I have census records that state abt. 1834 but obituarary states 1831. Obituary states born in County Down near Belfast. He came to America (Illinois) when about 16 years old according to obituary. Would like to know where to search for Ireland records. Thank you. Mary R. Barringer marpaybar@insightbb.com

Thank You Fiona! I will put these in a safe place ;-) Best Regards, Roxanne Fiona Jones wrote: >Hi Roxanne - the site address is: > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/ >and the BRICKWALL page is at: > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/brickwall.htm > >Fiona. >IGP Co. Down Coordinator > > >-----Original Message----- >From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] >On Behalf Of Roxanne Neel >Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:20 PM >To: nir-down@rootsweb.com >Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Fiona's Website [Brickwall section] > >Hi Fiona, >What is the address to your website that includes Brickwalls? Sorry, >but I've misplaced it :-/ >Many Thanks, >Roxanne > > >

Hi Roxanne - the site address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/ and the BRICKWALL page is at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/brickwall.htm Fiona. IGP Co. Down Coordinator -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roxanne Neel Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:20 PM To: nir-down@rootsweb.com Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Fiona's Website [Brickwall section] Hi Fiona, What is the address to your website that includes Brickwalls? Sorry, but I've misplaced it :-/ Many Thanks, Roxanne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The website Caora is presently under construction, Raymond

I am astonished or words to that effect , I have a number of e mails lying there am I now unable to collect them ??, what is going on ?? can anyone explain On Jan 9, 2008 1:03 PM, Rachel McPhee <nandr@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Sheila > > I was on it less than a week ago but haven't been able to get on again > since, I just get page cannot be displayed on it now. > > Regards > Rachel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Pssheila@aol.com> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 12:50 AM > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] CAORA > > > > Hello Listers > > > > Has anyone tried to get into Caora.net <http://caora.net/> lately??? I > keep getting a Spanish > > or > > South American site!! Where has Caora gone??? > > > > Sheila > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- twocats

Hi Sheila I was on it less than a week ago but haven't been able to get on again since, I just get page cannot be displayed on it now. Regards Rachel ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pssheila@aol.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 12:50 AM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] CAORA > Hello Listers > > Has anyone tried to get into Caora.net lately??? I keep getting a Spanish > or > South American site!! Where has Caora gone??? > > Sheila > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ive never heard of caora but thought Id have a look cos it sounded so good. If you search via google and look at the cached page then you get something- dont know whether you would get email retrieval tho. As usual Ive found out about something too late:( carol

Hi Fiona, What is the address to your website that includes Brickwalls? Sorry, but I've misplaced it :-/ Many Thanks, Roxanne

I tried it yesterday and got the message that the site couldn't be found! Roxanne Pssheila@aol.com wrote: >Hello Listers > >Has anyone tried to get into Caora.net lately??? I keep getting a Spanish or >South American site!! Where has Caora gone??? > >Sheila > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >