Thanks, Mike. So could one assume that if one were an undertaker leasor of several hundred acres, one had the means to acquire such a lease,, or at least had some means and some favor with the nobility holding the land? l would think that if one came over from Scotland at that time, that they would have had to have been of some means at the time they came...... I have just placed a purchase order for the first two books previously referenced, written by David Dobson, in the hopes of finding information about Russell ancestors listed. Your insight is greatly appreciated. Mary Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: Mary My lay understanding is that you could and often did have four levels of for land occupation. After 1609 you had the noblity being given large area of land. They in turn leased to Undertakers area of several hundred acres Who in term had tennant farmers They may have even subtennants Then in the early 1900 under a British Act of Parliament, these land owners had to sell the land to their tennants. I do not know what the conditions where, but I think it had to do with those who had been in long term rents. Hopefully that will give you an idea Mike boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Guler" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 12:39 AM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Question about land ownership > Is there anyone who can help me understand about land ownership post > Battle of the Boyne (and even into today) in County Down? > > My family, Russell, seemed to have land that was part of the Kilmorey > estate, which they rented out to others. Some (?all) of that land is > still in the hands of family members. How did they come to be in > possession of the land? Was it purchased from the Kilmorey Estate? Was > it a gift? Why is it still referred to as Kilmorey Estate? > > Thanks in advance! > Mary > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! > Search. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

The origin of the Kennedys in Scotland and Ireland goes back a very long way. Like so many Scottish names it is of Irish origin from O Cinneide meaning ceann, head, and eidigh meaning ugly. The Irish Kennedys were descended from Cennedig who was Brian Boru's nephew. They were Lords of Ormonde from the 11th. to 16th.C's. Originally from Clare, they spread down as far as Wexford where John F. Kennedy's ancesters came from. There were three branches: O'Kennedy Donn (brown),O'Kennedy Fionn (fair) and O'Kennedy Rua (red). Some moved to Country Antrim where the name is still common. The Irish O'Kennedys migrated to Scotland and became MacKennedys and were a sept of the Clan Cameron and those in Invernesshire descend from the Ayrshire Kennedys where they were first known as Lords Kennedys and later as Earls of Cassilis. A 16th. C Scottish rhyme goes: "Twixt Wigton and the toun of Ayr, Portpatrick and the Cruives of Cree, No man needs think for to bide there, Unless he courts with Kennedie. Ayrshire Kennedys were brough over to Ulster to build the post of Donaghadee in 1603 and spread through the Ards peninsula at Bangor, Comber and Newtownards and on Down to Downpatrick.What I find strange is that the Muster Roll of County Down held in Bangor in 1631 lists only one Kennedy - Constantyne. Similarly the Muster Roll of Clandeboye held in Killyleagh in 1642 listed only Thomas Kenedy. Sir Arthur Edward Kennedy, 1810-83, was born at Culta near Holywood and became Governor of Gambia, West Australia, Hing Kong and later Queensland. There is a lot of early Kennedy information in Hanna's, "The Scotch-Irish". There were Kennedys of Clogher, Co. Tyrone who descended from Cornet John Kennedy 1615-1680 of the Ayrshire Kennedys, who came there in 1641 with the Scottish army under Lord Leven. Most County Down and County Down Kennedys came from Ayrshire and Galloway. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Kennedy" <kennedmr@siscom.net> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 11:18 AM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] lookup request - from Books by David Dobson > Greetings: > > Is there anyone willing to do some lookups from the books by David Dobson > on the Scots-Irish around the period 1725-1825. > Apparently he wrote three to five books on the Scot-Irish, with at least > three dealing with this period of time. > I am looking for information on the Kennedy surname in County Down, > especially the area in and near the town of Killyleagh or the Barony of > Dufferin and the whole area known as East Down. > What area of Scotland did these Kennedys originally come from? > Did these Kennedys belong to any particular branch of the Scottish > Kennedys? > Are any of them mentioned as coming from Glasgow? > Are there any family trees or genealogies available that tie these County > Down Kennedy's with Scottish Kennedy's? > Are any of these books online? > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks > > Mike Kennedy > Dayton Ohio > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mike, Thank you for the info on the Burnsides! I will bring this number with me - got my ticket yesterday - July 1st. Can't wait. Linda -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> > Some on in the last few days was asking about a Burnside family > > While doing another task I found this reference > > "the Burnside family tree (T.2707 P.R.O.N.I.), " > > You may like to ask a local or someone who is going to PRONI in ht enext > month otr so if they can do a look up for you to see what is contained in > this record > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Hi Nan: Just going through me emails and found this one that you sent. Did you get any replies. I could look up the deaths here in Ontario to see if there is more information. Let me know Brenda Brampton, Ontario Nan Brennan wrote: >There was a Patrick McEvoy in the Ontario Canada Death Register >Simcoe District : Date of death Sept 17 1876, age 50, b Ireland @1826. >occupation Merchant. > >Another Patrick McEvoy, born Ireland, died in York (Ontario) on Dec >17, 1886, age 53 > > >I am still looking for my Greatgrandfather's brother: >My gG was MICHAEL MCEVOY, born Ballymagreen @1834, died >Ballymagreehan 1901. >He was the son of LAWRENCE MCEVOY AND MARY GRIBBEN of Ballymagreehan. > >Other siblings : Owen died in Iowa. Dennis died in Sunderland Durham >England. >Margaret married Patrick O'prey of Ballymagreehan. Died in >Ballymagreehan. >Bridget May have come to Iowa. No info on a daughter/sister "Mary" >and a son Patrick. > >I have no birth info on Patrick. I have no info on Patrick except >family stories that there was a Patrick. > >Does any one have knowledge of either of these Patricks that died in >Ontario Canada? > >Thanks for any help or info anyone might have. > >Nan/Çhicago. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Mike The Kennedy's held land from Ayr Town, Ayrshire down to almost Stranraer in Wigtonshire. There were a number of Cadet Branches of them. For Ayrshire there are two writers that have done quite a bit of publishing of family trees. - George Robertson in the 1820's and - James Paterson, in the 1860/s Many of the Kennedy siblings help high office in Scotland like Chancellor, Biship, etc >From the area that you are talking about, your Kennedy's could have been part of the 1607 migration under Mr Montgomery and Mr Hamilton. So you will need to work your way back through your own family in County Down and then look at Robertson and Paterson. I would ask the Local Studies Library at Ardrossan Library what information they may have for Kennedy's that came from XYZ part of Ayrshire. Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Kennedy" <kennedmr@siscom.net> To: "nir-down" <nir-down-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 5:16 AM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] lookup request -David Dobson books > Greetings: > > Is there anyone willing to do some lookups from the books by David Dobson > on the Scots-Irish around the period 1725-1825. > Apparently he wrote three to five books on the Scot-Irish, with at least > three dealing with this period of time. > I am looking for information on the Kennedy surname in County Down, > especially the area in and near the town of Killyleagh or the Barony of > Dufferin and the whole area known as East Down. > What area of Scotland did these Kennedys originally come from? > Did these Kennedys belong to any particular branch of the Scottish > Kennedys? > Are any of them mentioned as coming from Glasgow? > Are there any family trees or genealogies available that tie these County > Down Kennedy's with Scottish Kennedy's? > Are any of these books online? > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks > > Mike Kennedy > Dayton Ohio > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is there anyone who can help me understand about land ownership post Battle of the Boyne (and even into today) in County Down? My family, Russell, seemed to have land that was part of the Kilmorey estate, which they rented out to others. Some (?all) of that land is still in the hands of family members. How did they come to be in possession of the land? Was it purchased from the Kilmorey Estate? Was it a gift? Why is it still referred to as Kilmorey Estate? Thanks in advance! Mary --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

Thank you, Hugh. You have corroborated my info. I appreciate your courtesy. Dave

Anyone out there researching the COOPER and/or McCONAHY families? I have received information today that they are connected to my Robert BURNSIDE whose children were born in Co. Down. These family apparently immigrated to American together in 1817. Thank you, Linda Holley

-------------- Original message from ljholley@comcast.net (Linda Holley): -------------- > Thank you so much for the information! I have a map of N. Ireland but I now > realize that it is not detailed enough. > > Linda > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Hugh Macartney > > I think you need to buy a good map of N.Ireland, Bartholo,ews for example. > > This will give details of all six counties. Google will help by giving you > > the nearest town. I went through all Griffith's Valuations for Co. Antrim > > 1861-2 to find every Burnside listed. To go further back you would have to > > go through the Tithe Aplotments for each place I have listed to get > > information for the early 1830's. Any Mormon library could get them. > > GRIFFITH"S VALUATIONS COUNTY ANTRIM 1861-2 Parishes and townlands > > Burnside listings. > > Ballymoney, Alex., Seacon Lower > > James, Drumnahisky > > Drumnamaul, Hugh, Groggan > > Ballyscullion, James, Taylorstown > > Loughguile, William, Ballybreagagh > > Belfast/Shankill, James, Dock Townparks, George's St. > > John, Smithfield T.P., Boundary St. > > Robert, St. George's T.P., Baker St. > > The Belfast Burnsides may have migrated there from some other Co. Antrim > > Parish. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Linda Holley" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:56 PM > > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Burnside FAMILY > > > > > > > Hugh, > > > > > > Thank you for the reply! Would you mind telling me where Newry and Drumbo > > > are located, hopefully they are near Co. Antrim where Robert said he was > > > born. Do you happen to know where the Burnside name was found in Antrim? > > > I keep thinking someone may have done research before 1922 and their > > > material is deposited somewhere. I am coming there in the summer and a > > > kind person from another list has offered to help me look at PRONI. I am > > > trying to collect every tiny bit I can before I get there. > > > > > > Upon rereading my original email I see I made a hugh mistake - my Robert > > > reported on his naturlization papers he was born in Co. Antrim and 2 of > > > his sons said they were born in Co. Down. I apologize for the mistake. I > > > had one eye dilated this morning and I can barely see straight. > > > > > > Linda > > > > > > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > > From: Hugh Macartney > > >> In County Down the name Burnside was principally found in Newry and > > >> Drumbo. > > >> Most of the early Irish records were destroyed in 1922 so the early > > >> families > > >> might be difficult to trace. I would suggest you look at the > > >> International > > >> Genealogical Index (IGI) for Ireland in your nearest Mormon library and > > >> see > > >> if any show up. The 1843 Belfast directory listed only one Burnside - > > >> Thomas, a bricklayer. Likely he came there from somewhere else. The name > > >> can > > >> be either English or Scottish. A Burnside was an American senator in the > > >> 19th.C. > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Linda Holley" > > >> To: > > >> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:18 AM > > >> Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Burnside FAMILY > > >> > > >> > > >> > Thought I would post info again about my Burnside family is case > > >> > someone > > >> > was new to the list that might have information about this family. My > > >> > gggggrandfather was Robert Burnside - born abt.1760 who immigrated to > > >> > American in 1817. He reported on his naturalization paper he was born > > >> > in > > >> > Co. Down and 2 of his sons reported in the 1860 census of PA that they > > >> > were born in Co. Down. > > >> > > > >> > Robert's sons were, Willaim, Samuel - born about 1790, Alexander, > > >> > John/James, and Robert. > > >> > > > >> > Thank you, Linda Holley > > >> > > > >> > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > >> > From: Roxanne Neel > > >> >> Thank You Fiona! I will put these in a safe place ;-) > > >> >> Best Regards, > > >> >> Roxanne > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> Fiona Jones wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> >Hi Roxanne - the site address is: > > >> >> > > > >> >> >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/ > > >> >> >and the BRICKWALL page is at: > > >> >> > > > >> >> >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/brickwall.htm > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Fiona. > > >> >> >IGP Co. Down Coordinator > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >-----Original Message----- > > >> >> >From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com > > >> >> >[mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > >> >> >On Behalf Of Roxanne Neel > > >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:20 PM > > >> >> >To: nir-down@rootsweb.com > > >> >> >Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Fiona's Website [Brickwall section] > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Hi Fiona, > > >> >> >What is the address to your website that includes Brickwalls? Sorry, > > >> >> >but I've misplaced it :-/ > > >> >> >Many Thanks, > > >> >> >Roxanne > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> ------------------------------- > > >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > >> >> quotes in > > >> >> the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > ------------------------------- > > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > >> quotes in > > >> the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

I have updated my 1901 census pages for Kilkeel civil parish. Thanks to the hard work of Sheila Phillips I've now added the townlands of Ballymadeerfy, Benagh Upper & Lower and Lurganconary. Go to 'latest updates' on my home page at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~meaneypj/index.htm I have also placed a link to Ross Davies's map of Kilkeel Parish on my 'Kilkeel civil parish 1901 census page'. Regards Pete. Peterjmeaney@ntlworld.com <mailto:Peterjmeaney@ntlworld.com>

Forwarded from someone not on the LIST. === hello from canada found your site and would like some help.my gr.gr.gr.was the vicar at bangor abby in1830sthen the family immagrated to pembrook ont.1836 on a ship called the --bee.if you can help me in anyway i would be grateful looking to link up to some family in ireland thank you j r hamilton

Greetings: Is there anyone willing to do some lookups from the books by David Dobson on the Scots-Irish around the period 1725-1825. Apparently he wrote three to five books on the Scot-Irish, with at least three dealing with this period of time. I am looking for information on the Kennedy surname in County Down, especially the area in and near the town of Killyleagh or the Barony of Dufferin and the whole area known as East Down. What area of Scotland did these Kennedys originally come from? Did these Kennedys belong to any particular branch of the Scottish Kennedys? Are any of them mentioned as coming from Glasgow? Are there any family trees or genealogies available that tie these County Down Kennedy's with Scottish Kennedy's? Are any of these books online? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Mike Kennedy Dayton Ohio

Greetings: Is there anyone willing to do some lookups from the books by David Dobson on the Scots-Irish around the period 1725-1825. Apparently he wrote three to five books on the Scot-Irish, with at least three dealing with this period of time. I am looking for information on the Kennedy surname in County Down, especially the area in and near the town of Killyleagh or the Barony of Dufferin and the whole area known as East Down. What area of Scotland did these Kennedys originally come from? Did these Kennedys belong to any particular branch of the Scottish Kennedys? Are any of them mentioned as coming from Glasgow? Are there any family trees or genealogies available that tie these County Down Kennedy's with Scottish Kennedy's? Are any of these books online? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Mike Kennedy Dayton Ohio

What was his name ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fiona Jones" <mourneminers@optonline.net> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:17 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Forwarded Message > Forwarded from someone not on the LIST. > > === > > hello from canada found your site and would like some help.my gr.gr.gr.was > the vicar at bangor abby in1830sthen the family immagrated to pembrook > ont.1836 on a ship called the --bee.if you can help me in anyway i would > be > grateful looking to link up to some family in ireland thank you j r > hamilton > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Owing to computer and web hosting problems, i will be using my grandsons email for a few days. Raymond

Nan, It does look quite likely, unless James had a brother and sister called Hugh and Catherine. The townland is undoubtedly the same, if spelled differently. Claire www.claires-rosleaancestry.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nan Brennan Sent: 13 January 2008 07:39 To: nir-down@rootsweb.com Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Hugh McEvoy will 3/7/1887 WILLS INDEX Hugh McEvoy Death 3/7/1887 Grant 3/3/1892 Letters of Administration of the personal estate of Hugh M'Evoy late of Ballymagrahan County Down Labourer who died 3 July 1887 at Concord Massachusetts U.S. America were granted at Belfast to Catherine M'Evoy of Ballymagrahan Spinster a Sister QUESTION Is this the HUGH MCEVOY born March 20 1865 to JAMES MCEVOY & MARY KING of BALLYMAGREEHAN. They had a son Hugh born 1866 and daugher Catherine born Apr 24, 1867. James and Mary were married Jan 23, 1859 Any help appreciated. Nan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nan Virtually all of those wills were destroyed in the Four Courts. Sean. -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nan Brennan Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 10:48 AM To: nir-down@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Hugh McEvoy will 3/7/1887 Thanks very much Rosemary. Did photocopies of Letters give substantially more info than in the index? Nan On Jan 13, 2008, at 4:45 AM, Rosemary Joan McCormack wrote: > If you are lucky, you can buy a photocopy of these documents which may > answer your question. Send an email to PRONI with all the details, > and if > the documents still exist they will photocopy them for a small fee > and post > them to you. I have done this myself, with some success. > RosemaryJoan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nan Brennan" <nan.brennan@mindspring.com> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 7:38 AM > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Hugh McEvoy will 3/7/1887 > > >> WILLS INDEX >> Hugh McEvoy Death 3/7/1887 >> Grant 3/3/1892 >> >> Letters of Administration of the personal estate of Hugh M'Evoy late >> of Ballymagrahan County Down Labourer who died 3 July 1887 at Concord >> Massachusetts U.S. America were granted at Belfast to Catherine >> M'Evoy of Ballymagrahan Spinster a Sister >> >> >> QUESTION >> >> Is this the HUGH MCEVOY born March 20 1865 to JAMES MCEVOY & MARY >> KING of BALLYMAGREEHAN. >> They had a son Hugh born 1866 and daugher Catherine born Apr 24, >> 1867. >> James and Mary were married Jan 23, 1859 >> >> Any help appreciated. >> >> Nan >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1218 - Release Date: 1/10/2008 1:32 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1218 - Release Date: 1/10/2008 1:32 PM

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:45:20 -0000, you wrote: >If you are lucky, you can buy a photocopy of these documents which may >answer your question. Send an email to PRONI with all the details, and if >the documents still exist they will photocopy them for a small fee and post Looks like the fee is £5.35 according to <http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/about_proni/are_there_any_fees_and_charges.htm> David

If you are lucky, you can buy a photocopy of these documents which may answer your question. Send an email to PRONI with all the details, and if the documents still exist they will photocopy them for a small fee and post them to you. I have done this myself, with some success. RosemaryJoan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nan Brennan" <nan.brennan@mindspring.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 7:38 AM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Hugh McEvoy will 3/7/1887 > WILLS INDEX > Hugh McEvoy Death 3/7/1887 > Grant 3/3/1892 > > Letters of Administration of the personal estate of Hugh M'Evoy late > of Ballymagrahan County Down Labourer who died 3 July 1887 at Concord > Massachusetts U.S. America were granted at Belfast to Catherine > M'Evoy of Ballymagrahan Spinster a Sister > > > QUESTION > > Is this the HUGH MCEVOY born March 20 1865 to JAMES MCEVOY & MARY > KING of BALLYMAGREEHAN. > They had a son Hugh born 1866 and daugher Catherine born Apr 24, 1867. > James and Mary were married Jan 23, 1859 > > Any help appreciated. > > Nan > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Garth In recent times a SIMMONS family lived at Maghera, near Newcastle. Sean -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Garth Elvery Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 4:56 AM To: Down Co, Mail List Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Thomas SHIMMONS of Co.Down In May 1850, my wife's great-grandfather, Thomas SHIMMONS arrived in Moreton Bay (now Queensland) as an 'Exile' from the UK. He was born in Co. Down in 1830, but he and his family arrived in Ayrshire, Scotland around 1835. The 1841 UK Census shows him aged 10, together with siblings and parents, Thomas (shown as '40') and Elizabeth (shown as '35') residing at Back Lane, Kilmarnock, Ayrshire. The 1851 Census shows only his older brother, Hugh, resident in Kilmarnock; so presumably the family moved back to Co.Down prior to that date. My research so far has only found references to a 'Thomas SHIMON', at Ballygally, Parish of Inch in Griffith's Valuation and a 'Thomas SHIMINON', Drumee, Parish of Maghera, Co.Down in the Tithe Applotment Books of 1831. I would be pleased to have contact with anyone interested in this family who might be able to shed more light on the SHIMMONS family and their birthplace in Down. Kind regards, Garth Elvery, KFHS #1907, QFHS #2213, The ELVERY Worldwide One Name Study Convenor - QFHS FTM Users' Group, Brisbane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1218 - Release Date: 1/10/2008 1:32 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1218 - Release Date: 1/10/2008 1:32 PM