Claire Are these records that PRONI may keep? Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Claire McConville" <clairybums@dsl.pipex.com> To: <FERMANAGH-GOLD@rootsweb.com>; "Down Mailing List" <NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 12:05 AM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII > Hi All, > > > > I have been contacted by a lady whose father and his siblings were > children > during WWII and were sent, from Belfast, to live on a farm in Lisbellaw. I > know it was common practice in England, as well as Ireland, for children > to > be sent away to live with other families. >

I found all three with no problem. Your website is incredible! Thank you! Now, I just hope with all the tidbits I have gathered, I find my Burnsides there. Linda -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Murray Lynn <m.lynn@paradise.net.nz> > There are three Seacon Townlands in Antrim - Beg, More and Lower largely > between Seacon Road and the A26, with Fort Town to the NE, all in > Ballymoney Parish. Seacon Lower and Seaconmore extend into Londonderry. > > I've added them to the map. > > To find Seacon Road, search for "Seacon Road, UK" (it is just north of > the A26 as Mike says). > > BTW, to search for place names select "Map" as the search type. Exact, > Soundex and Partial options are for searching for Admin district. > > Note that in Antrim, all Townlands are in the database, even though only > a few are mapped. Also note that you can click on a district's Icon to > open it's info window and then on "Click here for More Information" to > get list of all of the Admin Districts it is in and all sub Districts in it. > > Kind Regards > > Murray > Christchurch > New Zealand > > Visit us at KiwiCelts.com <http://kiwicelts.com> > > * Cemeteries of New Zealand - Map, List and Web-links > * Parishes of Northern Ireland - Map > * Our Family History > > > > Mike Boyd wrote: > > Linda > > Secon would appear to be on the north side of the A26 Road - the main road > > between Ballymoney and Coleraine - about 8 kms form Ballymoney. From my > > 1:50,000 map it appear to be right on the Londonderry/Antrim border as it > > crosses the A26. > > > > While Forttown appear to be on the west side of the B62 Road - between > > Ballymoney and Portrush - about 7 kms form Ballymoney. It seems to run in a > > SW direction and appear to adjoin Secon to its SW > > > > There is an Secon filling station (gas station for the USA) on the A26 road > > about 1 km inside the boundary with Londonderry. > > > > Sorry I can't give you a web site map. > > > > Mike Boyd > > Brisbane > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Linda Holley" <ljholley@comcast.net> > > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:54 PM > > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Secon and Forttown > > > > > > > >> I have received info in the last few days that some Burnsides of Secon > >> married into the Moore family. Also that they married into the Boyd family > >> in Forttown. > >> > >> I know I need a better map of Co. Antrim but seem unable to find one - I > >> do have an Ordnance Survey map but it is a touring map. Can anyone please > >> tell me where these two areas are located or where I may download a map? > >> > >> Thank You, Linda > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Thank you! I have tried to look at your maps a couple of times but on my old computer - with not much luck. Will try again, right now, with my new Apple. Linda -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Murray Lynn <m.lynn@paradise.net.nz> > There are three Seacon Townlands in Antrim - Beg, More and Lower largely > between Seacon Road and the A26, with Fort Town to the NE, all in > Ballymoney Parish. Seacon Lower and Seaconmore extend into Londonderry. > > I've added them to the map. > > To find Seacon Road, search for "Seacon Road, UK" (it is just north of > the A26 as Mike says). > > BTW, to search for place names select "Map" as the search type. Exact, > Soundex and Partial options are for searching for Admin district. > > Note that in Antrim, all Townlands are in the database, even though only > a few are mapped. Also note that you can click on a district's Icon to > open it's info window and then on "Click here for More Information" to > get list of all of the Admin Districts it is in and all sub Districts in it. > > Kind Regards > > Murray > Christchurch > New Zealand > > Visit us at KiwiCelts.com <http://kiwicelts.com> > > * Cemeteries of New Zealand - Map, List and Web-links > * Parishes of Northern Ireland - Map > * Our Family History > > > > Mike Boyd wrote: > > Linda > > Secon would appear to be on the north side of the A26 Road - the main road > > between Ballymoney and Coleraine - about 8 kms form Ballymoney. From my > > 1:50,000 map it appear to be right on the Londonderry/Antrim border as it > > crosses the A26. > > > > While Forttown appear to be on the west side of the B62 Road - between > > Ballymoney and Portrush - about 7 kms form Ballymoney. It seems to run in a > > SW direction and appear to adjoin Secon to its SW > > > > There is an Secon filling station (gas station for the USA) on the A26 road > > about 1 km inside the boundary with Londonderry. > > > > Sorry I can't give you a web site map. > > > > Mike Boyd > > Brisbane > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Linda Holley" <ljholley@comcast.net> > > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:54 PM > > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Secon and Forttown > > > > > > > >> I have received info in the last few days that some Burnsides of Secon > >> married into the Moore family. Also that they married into the Boyd family > >> in Forttown. > >> > >> I know I need a better map of Co. Antrim but seem unable to find one - I > >> do have an Ordnance Survey map but it is a touring map. Can anyone please > >> tell me where these two areas are located or where I may download a map? > >> > >> Thank You, Linda > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, this sort of thing happened in England from many of the main areas when the Germans were bombing strategic targets. My father-in-law was sent from Birmingham, he lived near to the Dunlop factory, out to the wilds of Derbyshire. My mother's family were sent from south-east London up to Yorkshire, a trip of several hours by train, most of them went back many years later and settled there too. Rather than the phrase 'children sent away', the term 'evacuee' was deemed a suitable description of these children, many of whom were also evacuated to Canada, but some of these were home children, already orphans. Many were killed also after the ships they were traveling on were sunk. It is only reccently I have found out that there were bombings that had taken place in Ireland too! I thought the IRish were neutral during WW2! Regards, Michael McAllister > From: "Claire McConville" <clairybums@dsl.pipex.com> > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII > Hi All, > > > > I have been contacted by a lady whose father and his siblings were > children > during WWII and were sent, from Belfast, to live on a farm in Lisbellaw. I > know it was common practice in England, as well as Ireland, for children > to > be sent away to live with other families. > This lady has posted to the Belfast mailing list but unfortunately not had > any response so I am posting here as the two places mentioned fall into > the > boundaries and also, as I know how helpful and knowledgeable you all are. > Is there any way of finding out information about children sent away to > live > on farms? Government lists perhaps? I have emailed the lady back to get a > surname just in case someone has already been researching this, I have to > say most interesting, topic. >

Thanks Alma, I've got right into this now. Looks like I'll be doing a lot of reading tomorrow! Claire www.claires-rosleaancestry.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of FT. & AM. Sent: 19 January 2008 21:23 To: nir-down@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII Hello Claire, You might like to look at the following site and read about David Hill and his 2 brothers who were sent to Australia from England. As you can see, he has written a book (The Forgotten Children). http://www.abc.net.au/melbourne/stories/s1916836.htm Regards Alma

The shipyards in Belfast were bombed early in the blitz of 1940. After that every time the Luftwaffe flew past London (and therefore heading elsewhere)....the air raid sirens in Belfast and surrounding areas would go off. My mother and one of her sister's also spent the war years living on a relative's farm outside of Lisburn because of the threat. Even so, every time the air raid sirens went off they were sent home from school, gas masks in hand, often to get half-way there before the all clear sirens went off and they would have to trudge back to class. My father was in hospital in Belfast for tonsillitis when the first bombs hit Belfast. His picture, along with others, was featured in the paper afterwards...as several windows were shattered by the blasts. Eric Bain ----- Original Message ----- From: <Juditoh@aol.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII > Regarding the comment by Mr McAllister about Irish neutrality. That did > not > include Northern Ireland and I know that Belfast harbor had large ship > yards. > I would think it would be seen as a potential target. The rest of Ireland > was > neutral. > > > In a message dated 1/19/2008 3:21:47 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, > mcallisterfamily@btopenworld.com writes: > > Hi all, this sort of thing happened in England from many of the main > areas > when the Germans were bombing strategic targets. > My father-in-law was sent from Birmingham, he lived near to the Dunlop > factory, out to the wilds of Derbyshire. My mother's family were sent > from > south-east London up to Yorkshire, a trip of several hours by train, most > of > them went back many years later and settled there too. > Rather than the phrase 'children sent away', the term 'evacuee' was > deemed a > suitable description of these children, many of whom were also evacuated > to > Canada, but some of these were home children, already orphans. Many were > killed also after the ships they were traveling on were sunk. > It is only reccently I have found out that there were bombings that had > taken place in Ireland too! > I thought the IRish were neutral during WW2! > Regards, Michael McAllister > >> From: "Claire McConville" <clairybums@dsl.pipex.com> >> Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> I have been contacted by a lady whose father and his siblings were >> children >> during WWII and were sent, from Belfast, to live on a farm in Lisbellaw. >> I >> know it was common practice in England, as well as Ireland, for children >> to >> be sent away to live with other families. > >> This lady has posted to the Belfast mailing list but unfortunately not >> had >> any response so I am posting here as the two places mentioned fall into >> the >> boundaries and also, as I know how helpful and knowledgeable you all >> are. > >> Is there any way of finding out information about children sent away to >> live >> on farms? Government lists perhaps? I have emailed the lady back to get >> a >> surname just in case someone has already been researching this, I have >> to >> say most interesting, topic. >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Regarding the comment by Mr McAllister about Irish neutrality. That did not include Northern Ireland and I know that Belfast harbor had large ship yards. I would think it would be seen as a potential target. The rest of Ireland was neutral. In a message dated 1/19/2008 3:21:47 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, mcallisterfamily@btopenworld.com writes: Hi all, this sort of thing happened in England from many of the main areas when the Germans were bombing strategic targets. My father-in-law was sent from Birmingham, he lived near to the Dunlop factory, out to the wilds of Derbyshire. My mother's family were sent from south-east London up to Yorkshire, a trip of several hours by train, most of them went back many years later and settled there too. Rather than the phrase 'children sent away', the term 'evacuee' was deemed a suitable description of these children, many of whom were also evacuated to Canada, but some of these were home children, already orphans. Many were killed also after the ships they were traveling on were sunk. It is only reccently I have found out that there were bombings that had taken place in Ireland too! I thought the IRish were neutral during WW2! Regards, Michael McAllister > From: "Claire McConville" <clairybums@dsl.pipex.com> > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII > Hi All, > > > > I have been contacted by a lady whose father and his siblings were > children > during WWII and were sent, from Belfast, to live on a farm in Lisbellaw. I > know it was common practice in England, as well as Ireland, for children > to > be sent away to live with other families. > This lady has posted to the Belfast mailing list but unfortunately not had > any response so I am posting here as the two places mentioned fall into > the > boundaries and also, as I know how helpful and knowledgeable you all are. > Is there any way of finding out information about children sent away to > live > on farms? Government lists perhaps? I have emailed the lady back to get a > surname just in case someone has already been researching this, I have to > say most interesting, topic. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

Hi Rosemary, Thanks for your input! I hope the term 'sent away' didn't come across as in any way offensive, as in some kind of punishment, as it wasn't intended that way. I was trying to think of the word and couldn't come up with anything suitable. Thinking about it, 'refugees' would be more suitable. It just wouldn't work its way to the front of my brain at the time. I think you are probably right about it not being an official thing and people going to families. I'm thinking that perhaps there were establishments set up for those people who didn't have contacts elsewhere. I must say though, that this is an extremely interesting subject. I have found a few good sites and got carried away reading them. http://multitext.ucc.ie/d/The_BlitzBelfast_during_the_second_World_War and http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/categories/c1103/index_10.shtml Thanks once again. Claire www.claires-rosleaancestry.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rosemary Joan McCormack Sent: 19 January 2008 16:17 To: nir-down@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII I was 'sent away' from Belfast during WW2, but with my mother and my sister. We were 'sent' to family in Co. Down. We were only 'away' for about 5 months at most. I doubt if there was any official evacuation, as most people had family connections in the country. My husband and his mother moved down to the family farm and he went to the local school. RosemaryJoan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII > Claire > Are these records that PRONI may keep? > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Claire McConville" <clairybums@dsl.pipex.com> > To: <FERMANAGH-GOLD@rootsweb.com>; "Down Mailing List" > <NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 12:05 AM > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII > > >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> I have been contacted by a lady whose father and his siblings were >> children >> during WWII and were sent, from Belfast, to live on a farm in Lisbellaw. >> I >> know it was common practice in England, as well as Ireland, for children >> to >> be sent away to live with other families.

I was 'sent away' from Belfast during WW2, but with my mother and my sister. We were 'sent' to family in Co. Down. We were only 'away' for about 5 months at most. I doubt if there was any official evacuation, as most people had family connections in the country. My husband and his mother moved down to the family farm and he went to the local school. RosemaryJoan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII > Claire > Are these records that PRONI may keep? > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Claire McConville" <clairybums@dsl.pipex.com> > To: <FERMANAGH-GOLD@rootsweb.com>; "Down Mailing List" > <NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 12:05 AM > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII > > >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> I have been contacted by a lady whose father and his siblings were >> children >> during WWII and were sent, from Belfast, to live on a farm in Lisbellaw. >> I >> know it was common practice in England, as well as Ireland, for children >> to >> be sent away to live with other families. >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mike, Thanks for the quick response! I'm not too sure at the moment but I am going to do my best to find out 1. If they exist and 2. Where they are. I thought perhaps, if someone on the list has already looked into this area in the past, it may make things a little easier. If I do find out anything, in the meantime, I will be sure to post in the hope it might help someone else in the future. Claire www.claires-rosleaancestry.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd Sent: 19 January 2008 14:05 To: nir-down@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII Claire Are these records that PRONI may keep? Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Claire McConville" <clairybums@dsl.pipex.com> To: <FERMANAGH-GOLD@rootsweb.com>; "Down Mailing List" <NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 12:05 AM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII > Hi All, > > > > I have been contacted by a lady whose father and his siblings were > children > during WWII and were sent, from Belfast, to live on a farm in Lisbellaw. I > know it was common practice in England, as well as Ireland, for children > to > be sent away to live with other families. >

Linda Secon would appear to be on the north side of the A26 Road - the main road between Ballymoney and Coleraine - about 8 kms form Ballymoney. From my 1:50,000 map it appear to be right on the Londonderry/Antrim border as it crosses the A26. While Forttown appear to be on the west side of the B62 Road - between Ballymoney and Portrush - about 7 kms form Ballymoney. It seems to run in a SW direction and appear to adjoin Secon to its SW There is an Secon filling station (gas station for the USA) on the A26 road about 1 km inside the boundary with Londonderry. Sorry I can't give you a web site map. Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Holley" <ljholley@comcast.net> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:54 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Secon and Forttown >I have received info in the last few days that some Burnsides of Secon >married into the Moore family. Also that they married into the Boyd family >in Forttown. > > I know I need a better map of Co. Antrim but seem unable to find one - I > do have an Ordnance Survey map but it is a touring map. Can anyone please > tell me where these two areas are located or where I may download a map? > > Thank You, Linda > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Fiona, a quick google search turned up references in these pages: http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/PT_MN1880.htm http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com/html/newcastle11.htm http://www.libraryireland.com/UlsterDirectory1910/Newcastle.php http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/D/DowDoy.htm Peter Fiona Jones wrote: > Would anyone know anything about HYLAND LODGE, Newcastle? > > > > ========= > > Probate of the Will of Ann Doyle late of Hyland Lodge Newcastle County Down > Spinster who died 4 December 1906 . > > =========== > > > > Fiona. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi All, I have been contacted by a lady whose father and his siblings were children during WWII and were sent, from Belfast, to live on a farm in Lisbellaw. I know it was common practice in England, as well as Ireland, for children to be sent away to live with other families. This lady has posted to the Belfast mailing list but unfortunately not had any response so I am posting here as the two places mentioned fall into the boundaries and also, as I know how helpful and knowledgeable you all are. Is there any way of finding out information about children sent away to live on farms? Government lists perhaps? I have emailed the lady back to get a surname just in case someone has already been researching this, I have to say most interesting, topic. Thanks in advance. Claire McConville www.claires-rosleaancestry.co.uk

Thank you for the directions! I am going to order a larger scale ordinance map for that area. Earlier I had been looking around in Derry for my Burnsides but since some of the children say they were born in Down I moved farther south in Antrim. I am still on the Derry list - maybe I'll post again. Hope the Boyd info I sent matches one on your list - it looked promising to me. I looked at an obit site yesterday for Boyds in SW PA. Guess I will wait until I get there to get any copy you many want - there were a lot! Linda -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> > Linda > Secon would appear to be on the north side of the A26 Road - the main road > between Ballymoney and Coleraine - about 8 kms form Ballymoney. From my > 1:50,000 map it appear to be right on the Londonderry/Antrim border as it > crosses the A26. > > While Forttown appear to be on the west side of the B62 Road - between > Ballymoney and Portrush - about 7 kms form Ballymoney. It seems to run in a > SW direction and appear to adjoin Secon to its SW > > There is an Secon filling station (gas station for the USA) on the A26 road > about 1 km inside the boundary with Londonderry. > > Sorry I can't give you a web site map. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Holley" <ljholley@comcast.net> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:54 PM > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Secon and Forttown > > > >I have received info in the last few days that some Burnsides of Secon > >married into the Moore family. Also that they married into the Boyd family > >in Forttown. > > > > I know I need a better map of Co. Antrim but seem unable to find one - I > > do have an Ordnance Survey map but it is a touring map. Can anyone please > > tell me where these two areas are located or where I may download a map? > > > > Thank You, Linda > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Sheila Phillips has sent us more 1901 Census. New files are: Ballymadeerfy, Benagh Upper Benagh Lower Lurganconary Glasdrumman Kilkeel Streets - Newry St. Workhouse Leitrim Leitrim Upper To see any of these go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/ Pick DOWN and then CENSUS. Thanks, Christina Ireland Genealogy Projects Archives To add files... http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/form.htm

The Lecale Historical Society has transcribed the 1901 Census for the Downpatrick and area a few years ago on their site:_http://www.lecalehistory.co.uk/1901/_ (http://www.lecalehistory.co.uk/1901/) Muriel USA **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

I have received info in the last few days that some Burnsides of Secon married into the Moore family. Also that they married into the Boyd family in Forttown. I know I need a better map of Co. Antrim but seem unable to find one - I do have an Ordnance Survey map but it is a touring map. Can anyone please tell me where these two areas are located or where I may download a map? Thank You, Linda

photocopies are fine for genealogy but if you need one for legal purposes such as getting a passport or estate needs you must have it certified. I like to have photocopy rather than transcribed content because I have concrete evidence that there is nothing more available. However, if you have trouble with the script it can be helpful to have a transcription by someone who has done a lot of research in an area and knows the names, handwriting of clergy etc. At times it is a little like trying to interpret a doctors writing. Other times it is beautifully written script. Judy In a message dated 1/17/2008 3:11:40 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rosemary.mccormack1@ntlworld.com writes: Sarah, Family Ulster will send the complete contents of a certificate (transcribed) by email for £6. RosemaryJoan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Fernley" <sfernley@ccm.ac.uk> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 7:42 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] advice please: ordering marriage certificates vsphotocopies (REYNOLDS-HADZER) > Hi listers, > > Can anyone help me ? > > I have finally got to my local LDS library and found marraigeS registered > in Newry who may be related to my ancestor John Hadzer/HATZER. ( He > married an Ellen Reynolds b.c. 1859 connected to Newry, prob both > Catholics but I have not found their marriage yet) > > I was told that i could just order a cheaper photocopy of the certificate > and i would rather do this as i also have a few across various counties > that i want to order. I have just had a look at Groni website but can't > see the photocopy option. Am i reading this incorrectly? > > As there are so many Reynolds, I am working on the > HATZER/HADSOR/HADZAR.... line first. > As I have a few, which might just be eliminations, is there a cheaper way > of doing it than ordering certs at ten euros each? > > 1874 Sarah HADZAR, Newry 1/966 > 1878 Anne HADZER, Newry, 3rd Qrtr 1/1029 > 1884 Thomas Hadson, Newry, 4th Qrtr 1/1011 > > Sarah Fernley > > ********************************** > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any > views or > opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily > represent those of City College Manchester. > > If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have > received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, > printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. > > ********************************** > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

Dear LIST, I have gathered-up an enormous amount of information from a variety of sources on the name DOYLE. My research is primarily in the Kilkeel area but extends to Drumgooland, Bryansford, etc. If anyone has any research interest in the name DOYLE around this area please let me know and I'll see if I have any data that will help you in your research. Fiona. ============ IGP County Down Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/ Author of "The Miners of Mourne" http://www.fipacian.com/MinersofMourne.htm

Sarah, Family Ulster will send the complete contents of a certificate (transcribed) by email for £6. RosemaryJoan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Fernley" <sfernley@ccm.ac.uk> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 7:42 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] advice please: ordering marriage certificates vsphotocopies (REYNOLDS-HADZER) > Hi listers, > > Can anyone help me ? > > I have finally got to my local LDS library and found marraigeS registered > in Newry who may be related to my ancestor John Hadzer/HATZER. ( He > married an Ellen Reynolds b.c. 1859 connected to Newry, prob both > Catholics but I have not found their marriage yet) > > I was told that i could just order a cheaper photocopy of the certificate > and i would rather do this as i also have a few across various counties > that i want to order. I have just had a look at Groni website but can't > see the photocopy option. Am i reading this incorrectly? > > As there are so many Reynolds, I am working on the > HATZER/HADSOR/HADZAR.... line first. > As I have a few, which might just be eliminations, is there a cheaper way > of doing it than ordering certs at ten euros each? > > 1874 Sarah HADZAR, Newry 1/966 > 1878 Anne HADZER, Newry, 3rd Qrtr 1/1029 > 1884 Thomas Hadson, Newry, 4th Qrtr 1/1011 > > Sarah Fernley > > ********************************** > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any > views or > opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily > represent those of City College Manchester. > > If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have > received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, > printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. > > ********************************** > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message