Thanks so much for the wonderful response from members of this list. I'm overwhelmed by your kindness. Gloria Taylor

You didn't identify the place you are calling from and to What you need to do is use the international code of your country 011 if in US then the code for their country 44 if in UK which includes northern ireland then drop the beginning 0 and dial the remaining numbers after your area code. I live in the us so I would dial 01144 then 28 9573 3170 in the example you gave. And if you go to that country be sure that you know how to dial from North to rest of Ireland and how to dial home and from the rest of Ireland to northern ireland. Isn't it fun. Hope you have a good chat when you get it all figured out. Judy In a message dated 1/21/2008 2:33:03 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, Ktsc100@aol.com writes: Hello, As suggested by some NIR-DOWN list members, I attempted to find a phone number for a person in County Down using _www.192.com_ (http://www.192.com) . I got several listings that showed 11 digit numbers such as 028 9573 3170, but the list did not identify these numbers as phone numbers. How does one know if they are or not? Thank you for your help. KT **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

When you dial a number in N.Ireland from overseas you omit the zero at the beginning. When I phone there from Canada, I put 011 44 2891 and then the person's six digit number. The zero is only used if you are phoning from inside the U.K. Each area in Britain has a different code number before the personal phone number. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ktsc100@aol.com> To: <NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 1:31 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Ckounty Down Phone Numbers > Hello, > > As suggested by some NIR-DOWN list members, I attempted to find a phone > number for a person in County Down using _www.192.com_ > (http://www.192.com) . I > got several listings that showed 11 digit numbers such as 028 9573 3170, > but > the list did not identify these numbers as phone numbers. How does one > know > if they are or not? > > Thank you for your help. > > KT > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, As suggested by some NIR-DOWN list members, I attempted to find a phone number for a person in County Down using _www.192.com_ (http://www.192.com) . I got several listings that showed 11 digit numbers such as 028 9573 3170, but the list did not identify these numbers as phone numbers. How does one know if they are or not? Thank you for your help. KT **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

Hi Patriica Thats a very nice thing to do for someone . I had relatives who lived in Auckland now long gone. Kind regards jean On Jan 21, 2008 4:18 PM, Patricia Moosman <pat.moosman@clear.net.nz> wrote: > To all you good folks out there I am not looking for Elizabeth McKee > I just put some information on line I found for James in Australia > So I hope he too is picking up these little gems > > Patricia > New Zealand > > -----Original Message----- > From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of jean old > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 6:04 PM > To: nir-down@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] McKee family > > Hi Peter and Patriica > I too have a Elizabeth McKee she is my ggg grandmother all i know her > father > was John i dont know her mothers name .Eliza married a David Clarke they > had > two Daughters Elizabeth and Mary .Elizabeth married a Robert McConnell in > 1890 in Scotland . Robert came from Donegal . > Kind regards jean > > On Jan 20, 2008 11:28 PM, <Peter10Appletree@aol.com> wrote: > > > Patricia > > > > coincidence or not > > > > My grandmother was named Elizabeth McKEE and was born 10 Dec 1864 in > > Ballynahinch. There is no Christian name on her birth certificate (as > > with the IGI) > > uncovered within my father's effects. > > Her parents were John McKEE and Catherine (EMERSON) > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Kind regards Jean > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kind regards Jean

Hi Peter and Patriica I too have a Elizabeth McKee she is my ggg grandmother all i know her father was John i dont know her mothers name .Eliza married a David Clarke they had two Daughters Elizabeth and Mary .Elizabeth married a Robert McConnell in 1890 in Scotland . Robert came from Donegal . Kind regards jean On Jan 20, 2008 11:28 PM, <Peter10Appletree@aol.com> wrote: > Patricia > > coincidence or not > > My grandmother was named Elizabeth McKEE and was born 10 Dec 1864 in > Ballynahinch. There is no Christian name on her birth certificate (as > with the IGI) > uncovered within my father's effects. > Her parents were John McKEE and Catherine (EMERSON) > > Peter > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kind regards Jean

CHAPTER 30 A FEARFUL FATE "No hope of help! No chance of flight! Better to die in open fight!" - OLD BALLAD. ONE MILE from Saintfield and about three hundred yards off the Lisburn Road stood the house occupied by Hugh McKee and his family. It was new, substantially built of blue stone, slated two storeys high, with windows in front and gable, but none in the rere. The foundation was partly cut out of the fade of a hill. McKee was a comfortable farmer; he and his family had received numerous prizes from the Linen Board for their success in cultivating flax and spinning yarn. Several old spinning wheels which they obtained as prizes are still to be seen in the neighbourhood, given by them as presents to their relatives. The household consisted of McKee, his wife, five sons - the youngest sixteen years of age - three daughters, grown-up women - as daring as the father and sons, and afraid of nothing; the whole family large, stout and robust, so much so that they were generally described by their neighbours as "a lot o' big, fat, course folk." There was also in the house a blind girl, aged about thirteen, who was a relative, and a servant named John Boles, McKee and his family were most unpopular. The father had made himself obnoxious by persecuting United Irishmen, and by his offensive ultra-loyalty. The family were in the habit of going out at night, challenging every one they met on the road, and firing shots, to the terror and indignation of people who passed their house. So great was the fear they thus inspired that many persons were in the habit of making a detour through the fields. One night a United Irishman, named Samuel Adams, was shot through the arm and side. Nelly McKee, a daughter of Hugh, seized a hatchet and attempted to hack off the man's head, remarking that "deid men tell nae tales!" Two Scotch soldiers who were in the house at the time prevented the perpetration of the deed................................. see Chapter 30 http://www.lisburn.com/books/betsey_gray/betsy-gray7.htm#INSURGENTS full book http://www.lisburn.com/books/betsey_gray/betsy-gray1.htm Other books on County Down on line a wealth of information http://www.lisburn.com/lisburn_books.html Enjoy Jane

Today on www.abebooks.com there are 41 copies available worldwide of Empty Cradles by Margaret Humphreys ranging in price from US$1 to US$45 plus postage and packing. I've used this site for several years without mishap. Kind regards, Gaye Cleeland. ----- Original Message ----- From: <nir-down-request@rootsweb.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:58 AM Subject: NIR-DOWN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 41 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Children 'sent away' during WWII (Dawn Williams) > 2. Phone number in County Down (Ktsc100@aol.com) > 3. Re: Children 'sent away' during WWII (Lyn Whelan) > 4. Re: Phone number in County Down (Stan Megraw) > 5. gravestone inscriptions or death records for the Killinchy > Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or the Killinchy > Presbyterian Church (Co Down) (Pat Jones) > 6. Re: McKee family (Judith and Graeme Collins) > 7. Re: gravestone inscriptions or death records for theKillinchy > Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or theKillinchy > Presbyterian Church (Co Down) (Rachel McPhee) > 8. Re: gravestone inscriptions or death records fortheKillinchy > Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or theKillinchy > Presbyterian Church (Co Down) (Hugh Macartney) > 9. Re: Phone number in County Down (Juditoh@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:30:38 -0500 > From: "Dawn Williams" <dawnewil@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <5768F6A28386445A8509062A9AACD883@DewPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Thanks for the book suggestion. I'll try to get it. I have a cousin born in > England at the end of WWII who was sent to Australia along with his > brothers, as orphans. When a law change allowed him access to his records, > he found out that his parents had not died until much later when he would > have been able to meet them had he known. I guess it was his parents > economic conditions during and after the war that led to the circumstances. > Dawn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lyn Whelan" <johnwhelan@xtra.co.nz> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:49 PM > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII > > > > As a child, my former mother-in-law lived in Glasgow. She was evacuated > > to > > Blair Athol during the war. She did return to her family home afterwards. > > > > It appears this did not just happen in time of war and often the move was > > more permanent. I have a book by Margaret Humphreys (1997) called Empty > > Cradles. (Corgi Books, London). This book is about an estimated 150,00 > > children who were "deported from children's homes in Britain and shipped > > off > > to a "new life" in distant parts of the Empire" - the last as recent as > > 1967. Many children were told their parents were deceased. > > > > Margaret Humphreys was a Nottingham social worker. She investigated the > > case of a woman who claimed that at the age of 4, she had been put on a > > boat > > to Australia by the British government. > > > > This is well worth a read for those interested such a topic. Warning > > though - some of the content could be considered sensitive - it is an > > emotional account of life for these children. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:48:31 EST > From: Ktsc100@aol.com > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Phone number in County Down > To: NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c61.236bf27a.34c4ff8f@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hello, > > I would like to find a phone number for a family in County Down, Northern > Ireland. I have not been able to find an on-line directory for that area. > Does anyone know how I can find one to look up the number? > > Thank you for your help. > > Ken T. > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:56:01 +1300 > From: "Lyn Whelan" <johnwhelan@xtra.co.nz> > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <002201c85b9e$7d25d190$6601a8c0@Lyn> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I see in my posting regarding the book Empty Cradles, I missed a 0 in the > total number of children > It was 150,000 children not 15000 - quite disturbing really. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dawn Williams" <dawnewil@verizon.net> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:30 AM > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII > > > > Thanks for the book suggestion. I'll try to get it. I have a cousin born > > in > > England at the end of WWII who was sent to Australia along with his > > brothers, as orphans. When a law change allowed him access to his records, > > he found out that his parents had not died until much later when he would > > have been able to meet them had he known. I guess it was his parents > > economic conditions during and after the war that led to the > > circumstances. > > Dawn > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lyn Whelan" <johnwhelan@xtra.co.nz> > > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:49 PM > > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII > > > > > >> As a child, my former mother-in-law lived in Glasgow. She was evacuated > >> to > >> Blair Athol during the war. She did return to her family home afterwards. > >> > >> It appears this did not just happen in time of war and often the move was > >> more permanent. I have a book by Margaret Humphreys (1997) called Empty > >> Cradles. (Corgi Books, London). This book is about an estimated 150,00 > >> children who were "deported from children's homes in Britain and shipped > >> off > >> to a "new life" in distant parts of the Empire" - the last as recent as > >> 1967. Many children were told their parents were deceased. > >> > >> Margaret Humphreys was a Nottingham social worker. She investigated the > >> case of a woman who claimed that at the age of 4, she had been put on a > >> boat > >> to Australia by the British government. > >> > >> This is well worth a read for those interested such a topic. Warning > >> though - some of the content could be considered sensitive - it is an > >> emotional account of life for these children. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:58:05 -0500 > From: Stan Megraw <smegraw@videotron.ca> > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Phone number in County Down > To: nir-down@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAgBS7AtcnR0K0MuGKy6bn+8KAAAAQ AAAAXDMGMRdjqUq4G8/E7xik/AEAAAAA@videotron.ca> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > I've had success with > http://www.thephonebook.bt.com/publisha.content/en/search/residential/search > .publisha > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Ktsc100@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 2:49 PM > To: NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Phone number in County Down > > Hello, > > I would like to find a phone number for a family in County Down, Northern > Ireland. I have not been able to find an on-line directory for that area. > > Does anyone know how I can find one to look up the number? > > Thank you for your help. > > Ken T. > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:29:40 -0600 > From: "Pat Jones" <kin-hunter25@cox.net> > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] gravestone inscriptions or death records for the > Killinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or the Killinchy > Presbyterian Church (Co Down) > To: <NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <001d01c85ba3$2f98d080$640fa8c0@Desktop> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > If someone has access to the gravestone inscriptions or death records for the Killinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or the Killinchy Presbyterian Church, County Down, could you please do a look up for any MARSHALL and/or David GIBSON and his family. Thanks so much. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:53:43 +1100 > From: "Judith and Graeme Collins" <gcol6113@bigpond.net.au> > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] McKee family > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <002a01c85ba6$8b295660$71e4bc7c@XPPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Peter / Patricia > > I have a Hugh McKee Erskine in my family Tree and as he married an Agnes > Armstrong from Ballynahinch I have suspected the Erskines came from > Ballynahinch area as well as the Armstrongs. > > . Hugh emigrated to New Zealand c 1881 and Agnes at the age of 19 sailed > there to be wed possibly on her own or maybe with someone else c 1883 .They > were married at the residence of a Thomas McKee. > Now many years later c 1916 my Great Aunt was married in Belfast by a Rev > John/James McKee. > As yet I haven't unraveled the McKee Erskine connection but there must be > one. > > The Erskines apparently came across from Scotland at some time. > > If any of these names link up with your family I would be pleased to know. > > > Judith > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Peter10Appletree@aol.com> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:28 PM > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] McKee family > > > > Patricia > > > > coincidence or not > > > > My grandmother was named Elizabeth McKEE and was born 10 Dec 1864 in > > Ballynahinch. There is no Christian name on her birth certificate (as > > with the IGI) > > uncovered within my father's effects. > > Her parents were John McKEE and Catherine (EMERSON) > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:57:56 -0000 > From: "Rachel McPhee" <nandr@blueyonder.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] gravestone inscriptions or death records for > theKillinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or theKillinchy > Presbyterian Church (Co Down) > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <115F9AD9E85F4BBFB21AF1248534DF12@mcpheefamilyPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I also have an interest in this area, I am looking for surnames HAMILTON and > ALEXANDER in Killinchy and surrounding areas from around 1800 - 1850, I know > it's a big timescale but am stuck at a great big brickwall and any > information would be a start. Many thanks in advance. > > Rachel McPhee > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Jones" <kin-hunter25@cox.net> > To: <NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 8:29 PM > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] gravestone inscriptions or death records for > theKillinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or theKillinchy > Presbyterian Church (Co Down) > > > > If someone has access to the gravestone inscriptions or death records for > > the Killinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or the Killinchy > > Presbyterian Church, County Down, could you please do a look up for any > > MARSHALL and/or David GIBSON and his family. Thanks so much. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:50:27 -0800 > From: Hugh Macartney <hhmacartney@shaw.ca> > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] gravestone inscriptions or death records > fortheKillinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or > theKillinchy Presbyterian Church (Co Down) > To: nir-down@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <000601c85bae$780e7670$26f64518@ownercc2198af2> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; > reply-type=original > > The Killinchy Alexanders were mostly living at Carrickmannon, Raffrey and > Drumreagh and the Ros Davies web site will contain many details. I think > most were buried in the Ballygowan Presbyterian Graveyard. One family lived > in Carrickmannon House. The Killinch Presb. Graveyard has: > HAMILTON > (Railed enclosure with KIRK stone and modern Hamilton stones) > Erected by George Hamilton of Raffery who d. Feb.12 1812 aged 55. Also his > wife Margaret COUSSE alias Hamilton who d. Aug. 15 1803 aged 36. Also his > son George aged 2. Also John Hamilton who d. Jan.23 1846 aged 52. Also two > children who died young. John Stewart d. Jan 1865 aged 52. Mary Hamilton d. > May 29 1873 aged 66. > KIRK > In Hamilton enclosure 1811. Erected by John Kirk of Barnamaghery who d. May > 1 1826 aged 85. Also his wife Jane Kirk alias HAMILTON who d. Ap. 26 1826 > aged 72. > (The Kirks I believe were originally from Raffery) > No Alexanders or Hamiltons listed in Killinchy Non-Subscribing Presb. > Graveyard. > If there are any present day descendants they might be listed in the > N.ireland Directory at bt.com Killinchy likely listed under Comber or > Newtownards. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rachel McPhee" <nandr@blueyonder.co.uk> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 12:57 PM > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] gravestone inscriptions or death records > fortheKillinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or theKillinchy > Presbyterian Church (Co Down) > > > >I also have an interest in this area, I am looking for surnames HAMILTON > >and > > ALEXANDER in Killinchy and surrounding areas from around 1800 - 1850, I > > know > > it's a big timescale but am stuck at a great big brickwall and any > > information would be a start. Many thanks in advance. > > > > Rachel McPhee > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Pat Jones" <kin-hunter25@cox.net> > > To: <NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 8:29 PM > > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] gravestone inscriptions or death records for > > theKillinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or theKillinchy > > Presbyterian Church (Co Down) > > > > > >> If someone has access to the gravestone inscriptions or death records for > >> the Killinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or the Killinchy > >> Presbyterian Church, County Down, could you please do a look up for any > >> MARSHALL and/or David GIBSON and his family. Thanks so much. > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:57:07 EST > From: Juditoh@aol.com > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Phone number in County Down > To: nir-down@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <cac.262f6abf.34c51db3@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > _http://www.192.com/_ (http://www.192.com/) May be helpful if phone > directory doesn't help. > > > In a message dated 1/20/2008 12:50:27 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, > Ktsc100@aol.com writes: > > Hello, > > I would like to find a phone number for a family in County Down, Northern > Ireland. I have not been able to find an on-line directory for that area. > Does anyone know how I can find one to look up the number? > > Thank you for your help. > > Ken T. > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > > > **************Start the year off right. 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I see in my posting regarding the book Empty Cradles, I missed a 0 in the total number of children It was 150,000 children not 15000 - quite disturbing really. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawn Williams" <dawnewil@verizon.net> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII > Thanks for the book suggestion. I'll try to get it. I have a cousin born > in > England at the end of WWII who was sent to Australia along with his > brothers, as orphans. When a law change allowed him access to his records, > he found out that his parents had not died until much later when he would > have been able to meet them had he known. I guess it was his parents > economic conditions during and after the war that led to the > circumstances. > Dawn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lyn Whelan" <johnwhelan@xtra.co.nz> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:49 PM > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII > > >> As a child, my former mother-in-law lived in Glasgow. She was evacuated >> to >> Blair Athol during the war. She did return to her family home afterwards. >> >> It appears this did not just happen in time of war and often the move was >> more permanent. I have a book by Margaret Humphreys (1997) called Empty >> Cradles. (Corgi Books, London). This book is about an estimated 150,00 >> children who were "deported from children's homes in Britain and shipped >> off >> to a "new life" in distant parts of the Empire" - the last as recent as >> 1967. Many children were told their parents were deceased. >> >> Margaret Humphreys was a Nottingham social worker. She investigated the >> case of a woman who claimed that at the age of 4, she had been put on a >> boat >> to Australia by the British government. >> >> This is well worth a read for those interested such a topic. Warning >> though - some of the content could be considered sensitive - it is an >> emotional account of life for these children. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Peter / Patricia I have a Hugh McKee Erskine in my family Tree and as he married an Agnes Armstrong from Ballynahinch I have suspected the Erskines came from Ballynahinch area as well as the Armstrongs. . Hugh emigrated to New Zealand c 1881 and Agnes at the age of 19 sailed there to be wed possibly on her own or maybe with someone else c 1883 .They were married at the residence of a Thomas McKee. Now many years later c 1916 my Great Aunt was married in Belfast by a Rev John/James McKee. As yet I haven't unraveled the McKee Erskine connection but there must be one. The Erskines apparently came across from Scotland at some time. If any of these names link up with your family I would be pleased to know. Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: <Peter10Appletree@aol.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] McKee family > Patricia > > coincidence or not > > My grandmother was named Elizabeth McKEE and was born 10 Dec 1864 in > Ballynahinch. There is no Christian name on her birth certificate (as > with the IGI) > uncovered within my father's effects. > Her parents were John McKEE and Catherine (EMERSON) > > Peter > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Carol, I have the Newry Vol 21. I found one: CUMMING - (slate headstone) Sacred to the memory of James Hamilton Cumming who departed this life at Newry 19th July 1866 aged 13 years. His sun is gone down while it is yet day. Also John CARTY who departed 30th July 1868. Erected by his wife Letticia Cumming-Carty. Is located in St. Patrick's Parish graveyard on Church Street, Newry. I didn't find your grandmother. Muriel **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

Hugh Many thanks for the below information. I have visited Ros Davies website many times and it is really good. I will try and follow up the information you have provided me with. Even an elimination is a start. Would love to hear from anyone else researching the names HAMILTON or ALEXANDER in County Down. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Macartney" <hhmacartney@shaw.ca> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] gravestone inscriptions or death records fortheKillinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or theKillinchy Presbyterian Church (Co Down) > The Killinchy Alexanders were mostly living at Carrickmannon, Raffrey and > Drumreagh and the Ros Davies web site will contain many details. I think > most were buried in the Ballygowan Presbyterian Graveyard. One family > lived > in Carrickmannon House. The Killinch Presb. Graveyard has: > HAMILTON > (Railed enclosure with KIRK stone and modern Hamilton stones) > Erected by George Hamilton of Raffery who d. Feb.12 1812 aged 55. Also his > wife Margaret COUSSE alias Hamilton who d. Aug. 15 1803 aged 36. Also his > son George aged 2. Also John Hamilton who d. Jan.23 1846 aged 52. Also two > children who died young. John Stewart d. Jan 1865 aged 52. Mary Hamilton > d. > May 29 1873 aged 66. > KIRK > In Hamilton enclosure 1811. Erected by John Kirk of Barnamaghery who d. > May > 1 1826 aged 85. Also his wife Jane Kirk alias HAMILTON who d. Ap. 26 1826 > aged 72. > (The Kirks I believe were originally from Raffery) > No Alexanders or Hamiltons listed in Killinchy Non-Subscribing Presb. > Graveyard. > If there are any present day descendants they might be listed in the > N.ireland Directory at bt.com Killinchy likely listed under Comber or > Newtownards. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rachel McPhee" <nandr@blueyonder.co.uk> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 12:57 PM > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] gravestone inscriptions or death records > fortheKillinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or theKillinchy > Presbyterian Church (Co Down) > > >>I also have an interest in this area, I am looking for surnames HAMILTON >>and >> ALEXANDER in Killinchy and surrounding areas from around 1800 - 1850, I >> know >> it's a big timescale but am stuck at a great big brickwall and any >> information would be a start. Many thanks in advance. >> >> Rachel McPhee >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pat Jones" <kin-hunter25@cox.net> >> To: <NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 8:29 PM >> Subject: [NIR-DOWN] gravestone inscriptions or death records for >> theKillinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or theKillinchy >> Presbyterian Church (Co Down) >> >> >>> If someone has access to the gravestone inscriptions or death records >>> for >>> the Killinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or the Killinchy >>> Presbyterian Church, County Down, could you please do a look up for any >>> MARSHALL and/or David GIBSON and his family. Thanks so much. >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I have a problem.......my 22lb Main Coon Cat stepped on #16 CD.........marriages P-Z now has a crack in it and is unusable LDS does not have this set of CD's anymore. IF someone has this set, could them please email me. I desperately need a copy or a look up. I've helped many with these CD's and now find myself without the CD that I require for my own research of Taylor's in Ireland and Sizer's in Norfolk. Thanks Gloria Taylor

Hello Ken, Try www.192.com For location enter either the nearest town or the post code. Post codes can be found on line at the Post Office site. best regards Robert www.ulsterancestry.com> From: Ktsc100@aol.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:48:31 -0500> To: NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Phone number in County Down> > Hello,> > I would like to find a phone number for a family in County Down, Northern > Ireland. I have not been able to find an on-line directory for that area. > Does anyone know how I can find one to look up the number?> > Thank you for your help.> > Ken T.> > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml

Hi James Not sure if this would be your family in the 1851 census of County Down Margaret is showing as wife but with Elizabeth being deceased it is possible he married a 2nd time. Also William Jnr is William John not James Hoping this may be of some help Patricia New Zealand 1851 William McKEE na Dromore St, Ballynahinch Magheradrool Down 1851 Margaret McKEE na Dromore St, Ballynahinch Magheradrool Down 1851 Henry McKEE 14 Dromore St, Ballynahinch Magheradrool Down 1851 Anna McKEE 11 Dromore St, Ballynahinch Magheradrool Down 1851 James McKEE 9 Dromore St, Ballynahinch Magheradrool Down 1851 Margaret McKEE 7 Dromore St, Ballynahinch Magheradrool Down 1851 William John McKEE 5 Dromore St, Ballynahinch Magheradrool Down 1851 Elizabeth McKEE deceased Dromore St, Ballynahinch Magheradrool Down -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of james twycross Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 8:08 PM To: NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com Subject: [NIR-DOWN] McKee family I write from Melbourne Australia, first time to this list, in the hope that some kind subscriber/s can assist this puzzled Aussie trace accurate lines of descent. Here is what I have so far, William McKee, Bangor, Farmer married Elizabeth Little (I have no dates of births, marriage or deaths). One of their children, William James McKee migrated to Victoria in 1863 aboard the ship "Caduceus" with David McKee, 50 (father John McKee and mother Agnes McGill) and his wife Agnes, 40 (maiden name McTeer or maybe Mateer ?) and two other children,Ann 11 and Jan 6. William James McKee later joined the Victoria Police Force and his papers state that he was born on 2nd October 1848, his parents names were established from his death certificate. My first problem is to establish why William James McKee was travelling on a ship to Australia with David McKee and Agnes who were not his parents - was David his uncle ? It seems obvious that his parents sent him here under the care of a relative but what was the relationship between William's father and David ? I also wanted to establish if William James had any siblings and if so who are they and when were they born. And did his father, Farmer William McKee, have any brothers and sisters ? there is mention of a James McKee, born 11th May 1839 to William McKee and Elizabeth Little but that information comes second-hand and not from a reliable source. Any help and advice will be greatly appreciated. Best wishes from Melbourne, James Twycross. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I also have an interest in this area, I am looking for surnames HAMILTON and ALEXANDER in Killinchy and surrounding areas from around 1800 - 1850, I know it's a big timescale but am stuck at a great big brickwall and any information would be a start. Many thanks in advance. Rachel McPhee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Jones" <kin-hunter25@cox.net> To: <NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 8:29 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] gravestone inscriptions or death records for theKillinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or theKillinchy Presbyterian Church (Co Down) > If someone has access to the gravestone inscriptions or death records for > the Killinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or the Killinchy > Presbyterian Church, County Down, could you please do a look up for any > MARSHALL and/or David GIBSON and his family. Thanks so much. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

G'day Patricia, Thank you so much for your prompt response, I'm so grateful. Well, because I don't have any more information than I printed in my e-mail I'm not in a position to comment. It is quite possible that Elizabeth could have passed away and William re-married and the dates seem to fit OK. It might sound like a dumb question but I'm not too familiar with Bangor and nearby place names, is Ballynahinch, Magheradrool near to Bangor ? It will be interesting to see if any other subscriber can add to your great information. If William re-married perhaps some of his first wife's children were not happy about a new woman in their fathers life. All speculation of course, but possibilities. You have already given me something to chew over Patricia, I'm delighted to receive your message. Regards, James. -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Patricia Moosman Sent: 20 January 2008 19:07 To: nir-down@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] McKee family Hi James Not sure if this would be your family in the 1851 census of County Down Margaret is showing as wife but with Elizabeth being deceased it is possible he married a 2nd time. Also William Jnr is William John not James Hoping this may be of some help Patricia New Zealand 1851 William McKEE na Dromore St, Ballynahinch Magheradrool Down 1851 Margaret McKEE na Dromore St, Ballynahinch Magheradrool Down 1851 Henry McKEE 14 Dromore St, Ballynahinch Magheradrool Down 1851 Anna McKEE 11 Dromore St, Ballynahinch Magheradrool Down 1851 James McKEE 9 Dromore St, Ballynahinch Magheradrool Down 1851 Margaret McKEE 7 Dromore St, Ballynahinch Magheradrool Down 1851 William John McKEE 5 Dromore St, Ballynahinch Magheradrool Down 1851 Elizabeth McKEE deceased Dromore St, Ballynahinch Magheradrool Down -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of james twycross Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 8:08 PM To: NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com Subject: [NIR-DOWN] McKee family I write from Melbourne Australia, first time to this list, in the hope that some kind subscriber/s can assist this puzzled Aussie trace accurate lines of descent. Here is what I have so far, William McKee, Bangor, Farmer married Elizabeth Little (I have no dates of births, marriage or deaths). One of their children, William James McKee migrated to Victoria in 1863 aboard the ship "Caduceus" with David McKee, 50 (father John McKee and mother Agnes McGill) and his wife Agnes, 40 (maiden name McTeer or maybe Mateer ?) and two other children,Ann 11 and Jan 6. William James McKee later joined the Victoria Police Force and his papers state that he was born on 2nd October 1848, his parents names were established from his death certificate. My first problem is to establish why William James McKee was travelling on a ship to Australia with David McKee and Agnes who were not his parents - was David his uncle ? It seems obvious that his parents sent him here under the care of a relative but what was the relationship between William's father and David ? I also wanted to establish if William James had any siblings and if so who are they and when were they born. And did his father, Farmer William McKee, have any brothers and sisters ? there is mention of a James McKee, born 11th May 1839 to William McKee and Elizabeth Little but that information comes second-hand and not from a reliable source. Any help and advice will be greatly appreciated. Best wishes from Melbourne, James Twycross. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1233 - Release Date: 1/19/2008 6:37 PM

Barnes & Noble website also has the book in stock. Dawn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaye Cleeland" <gcl50440@bigpond.net.au> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 6:13 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Empty Cradles by Margaret Humphreys > Today on www.abebooks.com there are 41 copies available worldwide of Empty > Cradles by Margaret Humphreys ranging in price from US$1 to US$45 plus > postage and packing. > > I've used this site for several years without mishap. > > Kind regards, > > Gaye Cleeland. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <nir-down-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:58 AM > Subject: NIR-DOWN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 41 > > >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Children 'sent away' during WWII (Dawn Williams) >> 2. Phone number in County Down (Ktsc100@aol.com) >> 3. Re: Children 'sent away' during WWII (Lyn Whelan) >> 4. Re: Phone number in County Down (Stan Megraw) >> 5. gravestone inscriptions or death records for the Killinchy >> Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or the Killinchy >> Presbyterian Church (Co Down) (Pat Jones) >> 6. Re: McKee family (Judith and Graeme Collins) >> 7. Re: gravestone inscriptions or death records for theKillinchy >> Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or theKillinchy >> Presbyterian Church (Co Down) (Rachel McPhee) >> 8. Re: gravestone inscriptions or death records fortheKillinchy >> Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or theKillinchy >> Presbyterian Church (Co Down) (Hugh Macartney) >> 9. Re: Phone number in County Down (Juditoh@aol.com) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:30:38 -0500 >> From: "Dawn Williams" <dawnewil@verizon.net> >> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII >> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <5768F6A28386445A8509062A9AACD883@DewPC> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Thanks for the book suggestion. I'll try to get it. I have a cousin born > in >> England at the end of WWII who was sent to Australia along with his >> brothers, as orphans. When a law change allowed him access to his >> records, > >> he found out that his parents had not died until much later when he would >> have been able to meet them had he known. I guess it was his parents >> economic conditions during and after the war that led to the > circumstances. >> Dawn >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lyn Whelan" <johnwhelan@xtra.co.nz> >> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:49 PM >> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII >> >> >> > As a child, my former mother-in-law lived in Glasgow. She was >> > evacuated >> > to >> > Blair Athol during the war. She did return to her family home > afterwards. >> > >> > It appears this did not just happen in time of war and often the move > was >> > more permanent. I have a book by Margaret Humphreys (1997) called >> > Empty >> > Cradles. (Corgi Books, London). This book is about an estimated >> > 150,00 >> > children who were "deported from children's homes in Britain and >> > shipped >> > off >> > to a "new life" in distant parts of the Empire" - the last as recent as >> > 1967. Many children were told their parents were deceased. >> > >> > Margaret Humphreys was a Nottingham social worker. She investigated >> > the >> > case of a woman who claimed that at the age of 4, she had been put on a >> > boat >> > to Australia by the British government. >> > >> > This is well worth a read for those interested such a topic. Warning >> > though - some of the content could be considered sensitive - it is an >> > emotional account of life for these children. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:48:31 EST >> From: Ktsc100@aol.com >> Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Phone number in County Down >> To: NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <c61.236bf27a.34c4ff8f@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> Hello, >> >> I would like to find a phone number for a family in County Down, Northern >> Ireland. I have not been able to find an on-line directory for that > area. >> Does anyone know how I can find one to look up the number? >> >> Thank you for your help. >> >> Ken T. >> >> >> >> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. >> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:56:01 +1300 >> From: "Lyn Whelan" <johnwhelan@xtra.co.nz> >> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII >> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <002201c85b9e$7d25d190$6601a8c0@Lyn> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> I see in my posting regarding the book Empty Cradles, I missed a 0 in the >> total number of children >> It was 150,000 children not 15000 - quite disturbing really. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dawn Williams" <dawnewil@verizon.net> >> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:30 AM >> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII >> >> >> > Thanks for the book suggestion. I'll try to get it. I have a cousin >> > born >> > in >> > England at the end of WWII who was sent to Australia along with his >> > brothers, as orphans. When a law change allowed him access to his > records, >> > he found out that his parents had not died until much later when he > would >> > have been able to meet them had he known. I guess it was his parents >> > economic conditions during and after the war that led to the >> > circumstances. >> > Dawn >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Lyn Whelan" <johnwhelan@xtra.co.nz> >> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:49 PM >> > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Children 'sent away' during WWII >> > >> > >> >> As a child, my former mother-in-law lived in Glasgow. She was > evacuated >> >> to >> >> Blair Athol during the war. She did return to her family home > afterwards. >> >> >> >> It appears this did not just happen in time of war and often the move > was >> >> more permanent. I have a book by Margaret Humphreys (1997) called > Empty >> >> Cradles. (Corgi Books, London). This book is about an estimated > 150,00 >> >> children who were "deported from children's homes in Britain and > shipped >> >> off >> >> to a "new life" in distant parts of the Empire" - the last as recent >> >> as >> >> 1967. Many children were told their parents were deceased. >> >> >> >> Margaret Humphreys was a Nottingham social worker. She investigated > the >> >> case of a woman who claimed that at the age of 4, she had been put on >> >> a >> >> boat >> >> to Australia by the British government. >> >> >> >> This is well worth a read for those interested such a topic. Warning >> >> though - some of the content could be considered sensitive - it is an >> >> emotional account of life for these children. >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:58:05 -0500 >> From: Stan Megraw <smegraw@videotron.ca> >> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Phone number in County Down >> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> > <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAgBS7AtcnR0K0MuGKy6bn+8KAAAAQ > AAAAXDMGMRdjqUq4G8/E7xik/AEAAAAA@videotron.ca> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> >> I've had success with >> > http://www.thephonebook.bt.com/publisha.content/en/search/residential/search >> .publisha >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Ktsc100@aol.com >> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 2:49 PM >> To: NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Phone number in County Down >> >> Hello, >> >> I would like to find a phone number for a family in County Down, Northern >> Ireland. I have not been able to find an on-line directory for that > area. >> >> Does anyone know how I can find one to look up the number? >> >> Thank you for your help. >> >> Ken T. >> >> >> >> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. >> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:29:40 -0600 >> From: "Pat Jones" <kin-hunter25@cox.net> >> Subject: [NIR-DOWN] gravestone inscriptions or death records for the >> Killinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or the Killinchy >> Presbyterian Church (Co Down) >> To: <NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <001d01c85ba3$2f98d080$640fa8c0@Desktop> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> If someone has access to the gravestone inscriptions or death records for > the Killinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or the Killinchy > Presbyterian Church, County Down, could you please do a look up for any > MARSHALL and/or David GIBSON and his family. Thanks so much. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:53:43 +1100 >> From: "Judith and Graeme Collins" <gcol6113@bigpond.net.au> >> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] McKee family >> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <002a01c85ba6$8b295660$71e4bc7c@XPPC> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Peter / Patricia >> >> I have a Hugh McKee Erskine in my family Tree and as he married an Agnes >> Armstrong from Ballynahinch I have suspected the Erskines came from >> Ballynahinch area as well as the Armstrongs. >> >> . Hugh emigrated to New Zealand c 1881 and Agnes at the age of 19 sailed >> there to be wed possibly on her own or maybe with someone else c 1883 > .They >> were married at the residence of a Thomas McKee. >> Now many years later c 1916 my Great Aunt was married in Belfast by a Rev >> John/James McKee. >> As yet I haven't unraveled the McKee Erskine connection but there must be >> one. >> >> The Erskines apparently came across from Scotland at some time. >> >> If any of these names link up with your family I would be pleased to >> know. >> >> >> Judith >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <Peter10Appletree@aol.com> >> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:28 PM >> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] McKee family >> >> >> > Patricia >> > >> > coincidence or not >> > >> > My grandmother was named Elizabeth McKEE and was born 10 Dec 1864 in >> > Ballynahinch. There is no Christian name on her birth certificate (as >> > with the IGI) >> > uncovered within my father's effects. >> > Her parents were John McKEE and Catherine (EMERSON) >> > >> > Peter >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:57:56 -0000 >> From: "Rachel McPhee" <nandr@blueyonder.co.uk> >> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] gravestone inscriptions or death records for >> theKillinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or theKillinchy >> Presbyterian Church (Co Down) >> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <115F9AD9E85F4BBFB21AF1248534DF12@mcpheefamilyPC> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> I also have an interest in this area, I am looking for surnames HAMILTON > and >> ALEXANDER in Killinchy and surrounding areas from around 1800 - 1850, I > know >> it's a big timescale but am stuck at a great big brickwall and any >> information would be a start. Many thanks in advance. >> >> Rachel McPhee >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pat Jones" <kin-hunter25@cox.net> >> To: <NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 8:29 PM >> Subject: [NIR-DOWN] gravestone inscriptions or death records for >> theKillinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or theKillinchy >> Presbyterian Church (Co Down) >> >> >> > If someone has access to the gravestone inscriptions or death records > for >> > the Killinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or the Killinchy >> > Presbyterian Church, County Down, could you please do a look up for any >> > MARSHALL and/or David GIBSON and his family. Thanks so much. >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:50:27 -0800 >> From: Hugh Macartney <hhmacartney@shaw.ca> >> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] gravestone inscriptions or death records >> fortheKillinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or >> theKillinchy Presbyterian Church (Co Down) >> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <000601c85bae$780e7670$26f64518@ownercc2198af2> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; >> reply-type=original >> >> The Killinchy Alexanders were mostly living at Carrickmannon, Raffrey and >> Drumreagh and the Ros Davies web site will contain many details. I think >> most were buried in the Ballygowan Presbyterian Graveyard. One family > lived >> in Carrickmannon House. The Killinch Presb. Graveyard has: >> HAMILTON >> (Railed enclosure with KIRK stone and modern Hamilton stones) >> Erected by George Hamilton of Raffery who d. Feb.12 1812 aged 55. Also >> his >> wife Margaret COUSSE alias Hamilton who d. Aug. 15 1803 aged 36. Also his >> son George aged 2. Also John Hamilton who d. Jan.23 1846 aged 52. Also >> two >> children who died young. John Stewart d. Jan 1865 aged 52. Mary Hamilton > d. >> May 29 1873 aged 66. >> KIRK >> In Hamilton enclosure 1811. Erected by John Kirk of Barnamaghery who d. > May >> 1 1826 aged 85. Also his wife Jane Kirk alias HAMILTON who d. Ap. 26 1826 >> aged 72. >> (The Kirks I believe were originally from Raffery) >> No Alexanders or Hamiltons listed in Killinchy Non-Subscribing Presb. >> Graveyard. >> If there are any present day descendants they might be listed in the >> N.ireland Directory at bt.com Killinchy likely listed under Comber or >> Newtownards. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rachel McPhee" <nandr@blueyonder.co.uk> >> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 12:57 PM >> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] gravestone inscriptions or death records >> fortheKillinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or theKillinchy >> Presbyterian Church (Co Down) >> >> >> >I also have an interest in this area, I am looking for surnames HAMILTON >> >and >> > ALEXANDER in Killinchy and surrounding areas from around 1800 - 1850, I >> > know >> > it's a big timescale but am stuck at a great big brickwall and any >> > information would be a start. Many thanks in advance. >> > >> > Rachel McPhee >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Pat Jones" <kin-hunter25@cox.net> >> > To: <NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 8:29 PM >> > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] gravestone inscriptions or death records for >> > theKillinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or theKillinchy >> > Presbyterian Church (Co Down) >> > >> > >> >> If someone has access to the gravestone inscriptions or death records > for >> >> the Killinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church and/or the Killinchy >> >> Presbyterian Church, County Down, could you please do a look up for >> >> any >> >> MARSHALL and/or David GIBSON and his family. Thanks so much. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 9 >> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:57:07 EST >> From: Juditoh@aol.com >> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Phone number in County Down >> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <cac.262f6abf.34c51db3@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> _http://www.192.com/_ (http://www.192.com/) May be helpful if phone >> directory doesn't help. >> >> >> In a message dated 1/20/2008 12:50:27 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, >> Ktsc100@aol.com writes: >> >> Hello, >> >> I would like to find a phone number for a family in County Down, >> Northern >> Ireland. I have not been able to find an on-line directory for that > area. >> Does anyone know how I can find one to look up the number? >> >> Thank you for your help. >> >> Ken T. >> >> >> >> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. >> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> **************Start the year off right. 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I write from Melbourne Australia, first time to this list, in the hope that some kind subscriber/s can assist this puzzled Aussie trace accurate lines of descent. Here is what I have so far, William McKee, Bangor, Farmer married Elizabeth Little (I have no dates of births, marriage or deaths). One of their children, William James McKee migrated to Victoria in 1863 aboard the ship "Caduceus" with David McKee, 50 (father John McKee and mother Agnes McGill) and his wife Agnes, 40 (maiden name McTeer or maybe Mateer ?) and two other children,Ann 11 and Jan 6. William James McKee later joined the Victoria Police Force and his papers state that he was born on 2nd October 1848, his parents names were established from his death certificate. My first problem is to establish why William James McKee was travelling on a ship to Australia with David McKee and Agnes who were not his parents - was David his uncle ? It seems obvious that his parents sent him here under the care of a relative but what was the relationship between William's father and David ? I also wanted to establish if William James had any siblings and if so who are they and when were they born. And did his father, Farmer William McKee, have any brothers and sisters ? there is mention of a James McKee, born 11th May 1839 to William McKee and Elizabeth Little but that information comes second-hand and not from a reliable source. Any help and advice will be greatly appreciated. Best wishes from Melbourne, James Twycross.

As a child, my former mother-in-law lived in Glasgow. She was evacuated to Blair Athol during the war. She did return to her family home afterwards. It appears this did not just happen in time of war and often the move was more permanent. I have a book by Margaret Humphreys (1997) called Empty Cradles. (Corgi Books, London). This book is about an estimated 150,00 children who were "deported from children's homes in Britain and shipped off to a "new life" in distant parts of the Empire" - the last as recent as 1967. Many children were told their parents were deceased. Margaret Humphreys was a Nottingham social worker. She investigated the case of a woman who claimed that at the age of 4, she had been put on a boat to Australia by the British government. This is well worth a read for those interested such a topic. Warning though - some of the content could be considered sensitive - it is an emotional account of life for these children.