Has anyone discovered that the names Alice and Ellen are interchangeable? Fiona.

Phew!!!!! We will all sleep better tonight. Well done Raymond for getting to the bottom of it all. Fiona. -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of the_researcher Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:13 PM To: nir-down@rootsweb.com Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Caora update I have just been talking to Brians brother Keven, Brian is away travelling abroad for a while, and the website will be down for a short time, he meant to put a notice up saying that the site would be down for a while but the website servers got the message wrong, things will be put right soon, The Killen family are very nice people my wife and i visited them a couple of years ago and were made very welcome. Raymond ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Fiona: Have you ever seen another name used for Ethelinda? I can't seem to find it anywhere. thanks Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fiona Jones" <mourneminers@optonline.net> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:19 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] ALICE _ ELLEN > Has anyone discovered that the names Alice and Ellen are interchangeable? > > > > Fiona. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Awaiting a call back from Brian concerning the website. Raymond

Could someone tell me if this is a role call or just a test? I am oblivious at the moment as one of our great Australian Actors has died HEATH LEDGER. Anyway I am in shock but in Australia. Best Wishes, Leonie. Copeland Connections lebrac3@bigpond.com -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robt & Wendy Stevenson Sent: Wednesday, 23 January 2008 10:14 AM To: nir-down@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] test And I on a very blizzard-y day in southern Ontario. Roads impassable! ----- Original Message ----- From: <KPagape@aol.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] test >I also received your message in sunny, mild, Las Vegas, Nevada! > > Love, > Kathy > > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looking for information about the family of and/or any descendants of DAVID GIBSON, Tullycore, Co Down, Ireland. He lived in the Tullycore area when his wife Ann (Marshall) Gibson died in 1865. His sons Robert(d. 1852), John (d. 1854), James (d. 1863), and Thomas (d 1875) all died in that area. All are buried in the Killinchy Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church cemetery, Killinchy, Co Down. There were supposed to have been 10 children born; I need their names and information.

If someone could contact Brian please let him know that if he is having trouble with his hosting service that I can add any information on the IGP Co. Down site - either as a temporary measure or as a permanent solution. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/ Fiona. IGP Co. Down Coordinator. -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fiona Jones Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:44 AM To: nir-down@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] CAORA Website Thanks for this extremely useful information. Is there anyone on the LIST that could give Brian a call? For anyone who need to access the caora site visit: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://caora.net and you can access archived pages. It maybe a good idea to print off what you need:-) Fiona. IGP Co. Down Coordinator. -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter McGuinness *Administrative Contact , Technical Contact :* Killen, Brian brian@caora.net 10 Crawfordstown Road LOUGHINISLAND, UK BT30 8QQ UK Phone: +44 1843 596 206 *Record expires on* 20-Apr-2008 *Record created on* 20-Apr-2000 *Database last updated on* 06-Jan-2008 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for this extremely useful information. Is there anyone on the LIST that could give Brian a call? For anyone who need to access the caora site visit: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://caora.net and you can access archived pages. It maybe a good idea to print off what you need:-) Fiona. IGP Co. Down Coordinator. -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter McGuinness *Administrative Contact , Technical Contact :* Killen, Brian brian@caora.net 10 Crawfordstown Road LOUGHINISLAND, UK BT30 8QQ UK Phone: +44 1843 596 206 *Record expires on* 20-Apr-2008 *Record created on* 20-Apr-2000 *Database last updated on* 06-Jan-2008

Hi Fiona, Were you able to see any of the archives? I tried the site below, when I clicked on any link a message read "the page you selected has not been archived". Thank you, Margaret (Máiread) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fiona Jones" <mourneminers@optonline.net> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:44 AM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] CAORA Website > Thanks for this extremely useful information. Is there anyone on the LIST > that could give Brian a call? > > For anyone who need to access the caora site visit: > > http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://caora.net > > and you can access archived pages. It maybe a good idea to print off what > you need:-)

G'day Mike, The dates are certainly legitimate James came to Australia first on the ship "David C Fleming" sailed from Liverpool 21st July 1859 arrived Port Melbourne 5th Nov 1859. Margaret followed later on the ship "Marco Polo" sailed Liverpool 11th Dec 1861 arrived Melbourne 10th March 1962. Their first daughter Agnes was born in County Down on 11th Feb 1860 so it seems logical that Margaret waited home in Ireland for the birth of Agnes then remained with her baby for nine months and then set off to join her husband. My suspicion is that James and Margaret were possibly not married when Agnes was born, but I might be too suspicious, perhaps they were married in Ireland and married again here in Victoria...but that idea does not hold much support, I mean why would they marry twice ? No Margaret did not return to Ireland to have her baby daughter and the shipping manifest shows only James by himself on board "David C Fleming". It is not surprising that the arrival of baby Agnes was put off until she was a little older and stronger, that was not an uncommon thing with Irish immigrants who came her in those years of mass migration, I know of several instances where it occurred. I hope this information helps Mike, thanks for your interest, regards, James. -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Mike Boyd Sent: 22 January 2008 23:23 To: nir-down@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] McKee Mob James Did Margaret Shaw go back to Ireland to have birth in 1860? So how sure are you of the James McKee can in 1859? These dates do not seem to ring true to an out sider!! Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "james twycross" <jtw11958@bigpond.net.au> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:41 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] McKee Mob > Hi listers, Me again chasing that McKee mob. Since my earlier request new > information has come to light that may assist my search. Below are my > questions:- > > William McKee of Ballyholme, and wife Elizabeth Little had at least two > sons > who migrated to Victoria Australia, these were James McKee who came here > in > 1859 and brother William McKee who arrived in 1873. James married Margaret > Shaw here in Victoria but they had a daughter they left behind in Ireland > probably because she was too young for the long voyage, her name is Agnes > McKee she was born 11 Feb 1860. Agnes came here later when she was about > three years old with an Aunty, her mother's sister, Jane Shaw. I have two > questions here (1) can some kind person tell me if William and Elizabeth > McKee had more children in addition to James and William, if so who are > they....and (2)is it possible that James and Margaret were married in > Ireland before Agnes's birth, would there be a record. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.8/1236 - Release Date: 1/21/2008 8:23 PM

Are you referring to the caora.net generic webpage message? This is from network solutions (which used to be the Internic) and is simply a placeholder, probably related to the expiry of the hosting service. Having myself been in the situation of needing to negotiate the management of a web service with my provider, I am sure that Network solutions has not gained any ownership rights over the database belonging to Caora. I recall a message from the_researcher stating that the website was 'under construction' and a whois search reveals the following information for the owner of the domain name: *Administrative Contact , Technical Contact :* Killen, Brian brian@caora.net 10 Crawfordstown Road LOUGHINISLAND, UK BT30 8QQ UK Phone: +44 1843 596 206 *Record expires on* 20-Apr-2008 *Record created on* 20-Apr-2000 *Database last updated on* 06-Jan-2008 So it seems that the domain name is safe until april, even if the hosting service has expired. I have not used Network solutions as a provider but the service I use is very good at keeping databases safe as long as action is taken promptly. Perhaps the right approach now is to ask the_researcher if that action has been taken. Peter odavey@nbnet.nb.ca wrote: > I am really troubled by what has happened to this invaluable website. As a web community with deep interests in Co Down records I believe we all should be worried that the data base and the years of community input will be lost. What troubles me the most is that the creation of the site was done with such an open spirit that is not reflected in what is taking place now. The legal notice on the new site shows that new owners in California have control of the data and the domain name. For my self, I long ago transcribed the information I needed. It will be too bad if those just starting cannot get access, or if they can, only by paying through the nose. > Owen Davey, Gagetown, Canada > >

I am really troubled by what has happened to this invaluable website. As a web community with deep interests in Co Down records I believe we all should be worried that the data base and the years of community input will be lost. What troubles me the most is that the creation of the site was done with such an open spirit that is not reflected in what is taking place now. The legal notice on the new site shows that new owners in California have control of the data and the domain name. For my self, I long ago transcribed the information I needed. It will be too bad if those just starting cannot get access, or if they can, only by paying through the nose. Owen Davey, Gagetown, Canada -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 25 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

James Did Margaret Shaw go back to Ireland to have birth in 1860? So how sure are you of the James McKee can in 1859? These dates do not seem to ring true to an out sider!! Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "james twycross" <jtw11958@bigpond.net.au> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:41 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] McKee Mob > Hi listers, Me again chasing that McKee mob. Since my earlier request new > information has come to light that may assist my search. Below are my > questions:- > > William McKee of Ballyholme, and wife Elizabeth Little had at least two > sons > who migrated to Victoria Australia, these were James McKee who came here > in > 1859 and brother William McKee who arrived in 1873. James married Margaret > Shaw here in Victoria but they had a daughter they left behind in Ireland > probably because she was too young for the long voyage, her name is Agnes > McKee she was born 11 Feb 1860. Agnes came here later when she was about > three years old with an Aunty, her mother's sister, Jane Shaw. I have two > questions here (1) can some kind person tell me if William and Elizabeth > McKee had more children in addition to James and William, if so who are > they....and (2)is it possible that James and Margaret were married in > Ireland before Agnes's birth, would there be a record. >

Hi James I dont know if we have spoke before my ggg grandmother was Elizabeth McKee her father was John she married a David Clarke they had a daughter Elizabeth and Mary Simpson Clarke Elizabeth married Robert McConnell in 1890 in Govan Kind regards jean On Jan 22, 2008 8:14 PM, Merseyside <robertcampbell.1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > Your welcome James > Jane > > > Hi Jane, > > > > What a lovely lot of interesting reading you have sent, I'm impressed > and > > send you my sincere thanks for your kindness. Now I'm on a learning > curve > > and have some study to get my head into. Many thanks, James. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kind regards Jean

test test test It certainly got a lot of interest, people from all over the world refer to it. And so an explanation. I was having trouble with the list for several days. I would send a message and it would be returned telling me I not a member or some such thing. I thought if I unsubscribed and re subscribed it would over come it, it did but I sent a good many unsubscribes before it worked. Now every thing is back to normal Nothing but fun here.

The message cam from North Central BC. Fort St John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dianne Strimbold" <dstrimbold@xplornet.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] test > Rec'd your message on a beautiful, sunny, but cold day, in north > central B.C. > Dianne > On 22-Jan-08, at 9:57 AM, Donald Thompson wrote: > > > test 3 > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi listers, Me again chasing that McKee mob. Since my earlier request new information has come to light that may assist my search. Below are my questions:- William McKee of Ballyholme, and wife Elizabeth Little had at least two sons who migrated to Victoria Australia, these were James McKee who came here in 1859 and brother William McKee who arrived in 1873. James married Margaret Shaw here in Victoria but they had a daughter they left behind in Ireland probably because she was too young for the long voyage, her name is Agnes McKee she was born 11 Feb 1860. Agnes came here later when she was about three years old with an Aunty, her mother's sister, Jane Shaw. I have two questions here (1) can some kind person tell me if William and Elizabeth McKee had more children in addition to James and William, if so who are they....and (2)is it possible that James and Margaret were married in Ireland before Agnes's birth, would there be a record. Margaret and Jane Shaws' parents were James Shaw, brickmaker, gardener, labourer of Ballymaconnell and Margaret Wilson. Apart from their two children Margaret and Jane there was at least another child named Roseann who married ?....? Hawthorn. Can anyone assist me with more information about Roseann i.e. what was the christian name of her husband, when were they married etc. Any help and/or information will be greatly appreciated. Best wishes from Melbourne, James.

Gloria, did you get a copy of #16? Or find some one to help you? Would like to know before I start looking to see if I have one. Moved a short time ago, so would have to do some digging. Please let me know. E l a i n e J. T h e O t h e r E l a i n e S u m n e r, W as h i n g t o n U S A Gloria wrote: > I have a problem.......my 22lb Main Coon Cat stepped on #16 > CD.........marriages P-Z now has a crack in it and is unusable > > LDS does not have this set of CD's anymore. > > IF someone has this set, could them please email me. I desperately need > a copy or a look up. > I've helped many with these CD's and now find myself without the CD that > I require for my own research of Taylor's in Ireland and Sizer's in Norfolk. > > Thanks > Gloria Taylor > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is very discouraging news, Owen. It's the first I've heard by way of an explanation. Nan On Jan 22, 2008, at 8:29 PM, <odavey@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: > I am really troubled by what has happened to this invaluable > website. As a web community with deep interests in Co Down records > I believe we all should be worried that the data base and the years > of community input will be lost. What troubles me the most is that > the creation of the site was done with such an open spirit that is > not reflected in what is taking place now. The legal notice on the > new site shows that new owners in California have control of the > data and the domain name. For my self, I long ago transcribed the > information I needed. It will be too bad if those just starting > cannot get access, or if they can, only by paying through the nose. > Owen Davey, Gagetown, Canada > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 25 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Your coming through to a cold and wet Scotland Donald. Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Thompson" <hdthomps@pris.ca> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 5:57 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] test > test 3 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.8/1235 - Release Date: > 21/01/2008 09:39 >