Does anyone have an e-mail address for Ella Patterson? She works/worked at Queen's Univ. library in Belfast and often helped out with inquiries from the List. I checked the QU site but could not come up with her co-ordinates. Thanks. Owen Davey -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 25 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Hi I am looking for someone who is researching the name (Crothers) and( Beatty) from Annahilt Regards Veneita

The name O'HAGAN is constantly turning up as I research my JENNINGS family in Newry and I do not know any reason for this. It seems that there must be a connection somewhere that I have failed to find. I know that Arthur O'HAGAN (d.1800) lived on North Street, Newry, as did my Andrew JENNINGS (d.1818)but this doesn't seem to be reason enough for the number of times I have come across baptisms with either O'HAGAN sponsors or vice versa. It it possible that they are connected in some way by marriage and I have failed to find the record? Both families married into the McCARTAN family, but again this does not seem to be a very strong connection. Charles Jennings (b.1837) a grandson of Andrew was apprenticed to Arthur O'HAGAN solicitor in Dublin so the connection still continued in later generations. If anyone is researching the O'HAGAN family could they tell me if they have come across the name JENNINGS, please? I suppose this is a sort of brickwall. Nicola Jennings

Don't know if anyone has tried to access the site today - but Brian has put up an explanation of what he is trying to achieve with the new site. All a bit technical for me - but some might understand it! Try logging on to _www.caora.net_ (http://www.caora.net) and you will see what I mean! Late Summer is a long way off - but it will be worth waiting for! Sheila

Thanks so much for the update, Sheila. Nan On Jan 24, 2008, at 5:51 PM, Pssheila@aol.com wrote: > Don't know if anyone has tried to access the site today - but > Brian has put > up an explanation of what he is trying to achieve with the new > site. All a > bit technical for me - but some might understand it! > > Try logging on to _www.caora.net_ (http://www.caora.net) and you > will see > what I mean! Late Summer is a long way off - but it will be worth > waiting for! > > Sheila > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Everyone, Was someone on this list looking for information on Hyland Lodge Newcastle recently? If so, please contact me. I have, while looking for something else, found a "For Sale" notice in the Down Recorder newspaper (dated 6th November, 1943). It describes Hyland Lodge with a fair amount of detail (also its location). I can scan it and email it directly to the person interested, if they want to see it. Billy

Fiona, The name Ethelinda, written as that, just popped up, today while researching some New Zealand material. It was among some later 1800's names . Was not looking for it, just happened to notice as I scrolled downwards. Mary -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Hugh Macartney Sent: Thursday, 24 January 2008 3:36 p.m. To: nir-down@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Ethelinda Compound names were frequently used in past centuries. In Ireland we commonly find Maryanna and Maryann, Marijane rather than Mary Jane and so on. I think it was just the fashion or to have a name which wasn't "common". ----- Original Message ----- From: <Juditoh@aol.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Ethelinda >I am wondering if the name isn't Ethel Linda and if the person writing the > name as she heard it didn't make the combination. That could have been a > clerk, > priest or whomever wrote for whatever event was being identified. Having > said that I love the combination. Since the name isn't my favorite adding > inda > and making it one word would work for me. Judy > > > In a message dated 1/23/2008 2:57:02 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, > teacher@pmt.org writes: > > Fiona: Have you ever seen another name used for Ethelinda? I can't seem > to > find it anywhere. thanks Ann

Came across this site last night. No specific mention of Co. Down but lots of the surnames are "Down" names. e.g. 15 year old Bernard MARMION =================== 100,000 British Home Children (alleged orphans) were sent to Canada by over 50 British Child Care organizations. These 4-15 year old children worked as indentured farm labourers and domestic servants until they were 18 years old. The British Child Care organizations professed a dominant motive of providing these children with a better life than they would have had in Britain, but they had other ignoble and pecuniary motives. They rid themselves of an unwanted segment of their society and profited when they sold these children to Canadian farmers. Siblings in care in Britain were separated from their families and each other. Siblings were separated from each other when they were sent to Canada. Most never saw each other again. Many spent their lives trying to identify their parents and find their siblings and most were unsuccessful. An unknown number of children ran away from their indentured labour in Canada to the United States. Millions of Americans may be descended from British Home Children. The 4-5 million Canadian/American descendants of the British Home Children have 20 million British Grandparents, Uncles, and Aunts. How could this many people not know they are related to one another? Their mutual searches have been hampered by the unwillingness of the childcare organizations to readily release vital personal information. ======== http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~britishhomechildren/ Fiona. IGP Co. Down Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/

Just had a major BRICKWALL BLITZ..lots of new names added. Take a look and see if you can help anyone breakdown their brickwall. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/brickwall.htm Also a GREAT BIG THANK YOU to our "secret" researcher who picks names from those listed and conducts some research at PRONI to help breakdown those BRICKWALLS. I know many of you on the LIST have had help. Fiona. IGP Co. Down Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/

Yes Billy - it was me. I would love to see what you have found. You can email me directly at mourneminers@optonline.net Perhaps I could also add it to the IGP Co. Down site? I have no family connections to the place - it just sort of caught my eye and I wanted to know more. Fiona. IGP Co. Down Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/ -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of William Stranney Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 12:43 PM To: nir-down@rootsweb.com Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Hyland Lodge - For Sale advert date 1943 Hello Everyone, Was someone on this list looking for information on Hyland Lodge Newcastle recently? If so, please contact me. I have, while looking for something else, found a "For Sale" notice in the Down Recorder newspaper (dated 6th November, 1943). It describes Hyland Lodge with a fair amount of detail (also its location). I can scan it and email it directly to the person interested, if they want to see it. Billy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Carole – can’t remember if I had already sent you this: 1901 Census - Brackenagh East: 12 Bernard ? Rooney Head RC 78 M Farmer M Down Bess Rooney Wife RC 56 F Seamster M Down Hugh Rooney Son RC 30 M Farmers Son S Down Daniel Rooney Son RC 32 M Farmers Son S Down Kate Rooney Dau RC 34 F Seamster S Down Elizabeth Rooney Dau RC 18 F Seamstress S Down Joseph Barnes Nephew RC 48? M Stone Dresser S Down Kindly transcribed by Sheila Philips =============== Forename: Bernard Surname: Rooney Alt Surname: Date Of Death: 05/08/1909 Date Of Grant: 09/12/1910 Effects: Effects £25 10s. 0d. Registry: Belfast Full Abstract: Probate of the Will of Bernard Rooney late of Brackney East County Down Farmer who died 5 August 1909 granted at Belfast to Daniel Rooney Farmer. You can obtain this at PRONI =========== Descendants of Bernard Rooney 1 Bernard Rooney b: 1823 in Brackenagh East, Kilkeel, Co. Down, N. Ireland. d: 05 Aug 1909 in Brackenagh East, Kilkeel, Co. Down, N. Ireland. +Elizabeth "Bess" Doran b: Abt. 1840 in Kilkeel, Co. Down, N. Ireland. d: Aft. 1901 in Brackenagh East, Kilkeel, Co. Down, N. Ireland. m: Bef. 1865 in Kilkeel, Co. Down, N. Ireland. 2 Kate Rooney b: 1867 in Brackenagh East, Kilkeel, Co. Down, N. Ireland. 2 Daniel Rooney b: 1869 in Brackenagh East, Kilkeel, Co. Down, N. Ireland. 2 Rose Rooney b: 18 May 1869 in Brackenagh East, Kilkeel, Co. Down, N. Ireland. 2 Hugh Rooney b: 17 Apr 1871 in Brackenagh East, Kilkeel, Co. Down, N. Ireland. 2 Ellen Rooney b: 08 Aug 1873 in Brackenagh East, Kilkeel, Co. Down, N. Ireland. 2 Elizabeth Rooney b: 1883 in Brackenagh East, Kilkeel, Co. Down, N. Ireland. +James McCarthy m: 1904 in Montreal, Canada. 2 Peter Rooney b: 1884 in Brackenagh East, Kilkeel, Co. Down, N. Ireland. d: 06 Jan 1919 ============ Fiona IGP Co. Down Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/ _____ From: Carole Baldwin [mailto:baldwin2@telus.net] Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 4:44 PM To: mourneminers@optonline.net Subject: Brickwall I am looking for the marriage date and place as well as parents of Bernard ROONEY and Elizabeth "Bessie" or "Eliza" DORAN. They had at least 3 children: Rose, Hugh and Ellen. Ellen was born in 1873 in Bracknaugh, Kilkeel and emigrated to Canada where she married James McCarthy in Montreal in 1904. Any information about Ellen's parents would be very much appreciated. Carole baldwin2@telus.net

odavey@nbnet.nb.ca wrote: > Raymond. Thank you very much for your efforts. This is great news. Owen > Davey > Hi again Everyone Many thanks Raymond - I was feeling rather overwhelmed at our loss of a brilliant piece of work! Bev (in Queensland Australia and who has been tickled to read that Owen and the other "oldies" are still with us)

Well, i'm fairly new to this site, but anyway, it's lovely and warm one minute and next it's cold on the mid northcoast of Australia, Trish ---- Donald Thompson <hdthomps@pris.ca> wrote: > test test test It certainly got a lot of interest, people from all over the world refer to it. And so an explanation. I was having trouble with the list for several days. I would send a message and it would be returned telling me I not a member or some such thing. I thought if I unsubscribed and re subscribed it would over come it, it did but I sent a good many unsubscribes before it worked. Now every thing is back to normal Nothing but fun here. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ethelinda was the christian name of my husbands sister who died when she was a baby, [1940's] I haven't found a birth record or death record for her but have been told the name was one name. Ist time I've come across it here Jane >I am wondering if the name isn't Ethel Linda and if the person writing the > name as she heard it didn't make the combination. That could have been a > clerk, > priest or whomever wrote for whatever event was being identified. Having > said that I love the combination. Since the name isn't my favorite adding > inda > and making it one word would work for me. Judy > > > In a message dated 1/23/2008 2:57:02 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, > teacher@pmt.org writes: > > Fiona: Have you ever seen another name used for Ethelinda? I can't seem > to > find it anywhere. thanks Ann > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fiona Jones" <mourneminers@optonline.net> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:19 PM > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] ALICE _ ELLEN > > >> Has anyone discovered that the names Alice and Ellen are >> interchangeable? >> >> >> >> Fiona. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have just been talking to Brians brother Keven, Brian is away travelling abroad for a while, and the website will be down for a short time, he meant to put a notice up saying that the site would be down for a while but the website servers got the message wrong, things will be put right soon, The Killen family are very nice people my wife and i visited them a couple of years ago and were made very welcome. Raymond

Compound names were frequently used in past centuries. In Ireland we commonly find Maryanna and Maryann, Marijane rather than Mary Jane and so on. I think it was just the fashion or to have a name which wasn't "common". ----- Original Message ----- From: <Juditoh@aol.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Ethelinda >I am wondering if the name isn't Ethel Linda and if the person writing the > name as she heard it didn't make the combination. That could have been a > clerk, > priest or whomever wrote for whatever event was being identified. Having > said that I love the combination. Since the name isn't my favorite adding > inda > and making it one word would work for me. Judy > > > In a message dated 1/23/2008 2:57:02 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, > teacher@pmt.org writes: > > Fiona: Have you ever seen another name used for Ethelinda? I can't seem > to > find it anywhere. thanks Ann > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fiona Jones" <mourneminers@optonline.net> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:19 PM > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] ALICE _ ELLEN > > >> Has anyone discovered that the names Alice and Ellen are >> interchangeable? >> >> >> >> Fiona. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am wondering if the name isn't Ethel Linda and if the person writing the name as she heard it didn't make the combination. That could have been a clerk, priest or whomever wrote for whatever event was being identified. Having said that I love the combination. Since the name isn't my favorite adding inda and making it one word would work for me. Judy In a message dated 1/23/2008 2:57:02 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, teacher@pmt.org writes: Fiona: Have you ever seen another name used for Ethelinda? I can't seem to find it anywhere. thanks Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fiona Jones" <mourneminers@optonline.net> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:19 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] ALICE _ ELLEN > Has anyone discovered that the names Alice and Ellen are interchangeable? > > > > Fiona. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

Raymond. Thank you very much for your efforts. This is great news. Owen Davey ----- Original Message ----- From: "the_researcher" <the_researcher@raymondscountydownwebsite.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:13 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Caora update > I have just been talking to Brians brother Keven, Brian is away travelling abroad for a while, and the website will be down for a short time, he meant to put a notice up saying that the site would be down for a while but the website servers got the message wrong, things will be put right soon, The Killen family are very nice people my wife and i visited them a couple of years ago and were made very welcome. > Raymond > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1239 - Release Date: 1/23/08 10:24 AM > > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 25 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Many thanks Raymond!! Wonderful news. :) Shelley -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of the_researcher Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:13 PM To: nir-down@rootsweb.com Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Caora update I have just been talking to Brians brother Keven, Brian is away travelling abroad for a while, and the website will be down for a short time, he meant to put a notice up saying that the site would be down for a while but the website servers got the message wrong, things will be put right soon, The Killen family are very nice people my wife and i visited them a couple of years ago and were made very welcome. Raymond ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

email problems. Raymond