Hi I am not even sure if this is a sensible question but I had this thought so will ask. I know my 3x gr grandfather James Rooney (or Roney) was buried in Egremont in 1880 when his age was given as 45. He is on the 61 and 71 census in Egremont, Cumberland when his birth place was given as Ireland, as were the births of his wife Elizabeth nee Taylor and his daughters Leticia and Rosannah in 1848 and 1850, his younger children being born in Egremont. There is a marriage for him and Elizabeth on the IGI for 1853 in Egremont and we have a solicitors letter dated 1953 that his daughters births were legitimised in January 1927 with the introduction of the Illegitimacy Act. I do know that within my Rooney family that I have just got in contact with, there is also his Orange Order sash that is now so faded that even if there had been any writing on it, it is now ileligable. As I am struggling to find his place of birth I am clutching at straws when I ask if there is any possibility of his Orange Lodge being in Cumberland? To compound my research he was obviously a Protestant, one of his daughters a devout Catholic and one of his sons was a Methodist. I am hoping sks can point me in the right direction as another question I have is, are the members lists for Orange Lodges of that period open to the public or are they still confidential? I have also put this on the google message board for Cumberland, although I do realize that I am clutching at straws. Thank you for your time. Regards Lin

Is there an index to this book that might be online. Always looking for Burnsides. Thank you, Linda -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Hugh Macartney <hhmacartney@shaw.ca> > A book has been published concerning Portavo in 2003 and reviewed in North > Irish Roots, the magazine put out by the North of Ireland Family History > Society: > Portavo: An Irish Townland and its Peoples Part One. Earliest times to 1844. > By Peter Carr. Published 2003 by the White Row Pres, 135 Cumberland Rd., > Dundonald, Belfast BT16 2BB Price 18 Pounds. > The early 18th. C Parish Register for Donaghadee has been compiled by a Mrs > Duguid in two volumes and is held at PRONI. I don't have the exact reference > number at hand but perhaps they would send you a copy or pay a member of the > Ulster Historical Society to photocopy it or at least look up the names for > a fee. Whether Peter Carr gives information on your ancestors I can't say > but the book was very well reviewed. It might be available at > booksulster.com or one of the many used book sellers. If there are still > McCutcheons and McBrides in the D'dee/Portavo area they would be listed at > <bt.com> under either Bangor or Newtownards. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <jgraham@paradise.net.nz> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 2:21 AM > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Help! McBride -McCutcheon > > > > Dear Listers, > > > > I would like some help trying to find information on my McBRIDE & > > McCUTCHEON family from County Down Northern Ireland. > > There names & what I know so far are; > > > > THOMAS McBRIDE b c1835 in North Down Northern Ireland. Father THOMAS > > McBRIDE > > married 21 January 1862 at Millisle > > & Ballycopeland Co Down > > d 20 March 1908 at farm in Portavo > > Donaghadee Co Down age 73 > > Wife; > > CATHERINE McCUTCHEON b c 1835 in North Down Northern Ireland. Father HUGH > > McCUTCHEON > > d 14 May 1925 at farm > > Portavo Donaghadee Co Down > > > > I am trying to find their births & who there mothers were. Also any > > brothers & sisters they had. > > If some kind person can help me I will be truely grateful. > > Regards > > Jocelyn Graham > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Ann, I will have a look after the weekend, our time , I will be away for a few days. She may have been connected to the Finlay name, perhaps married one of them. However, Hamilton & English link to the Finlay family. I did not note it, I was so surprised to see the name just after I saw it on the Site. Mary -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann Martin Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2008 8:07 p.m. To: nir-down@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Ethelinda Mary--was it connected to a Thompson or Hamilton?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Legarth" <legarthm@levin.pl.net> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:44 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Ethelinda > Fiona, > The name Ethelinda, written as that, just popped up, today while > researching > some New Zealand material. > It was among some later 1800's names . > Was not looking for it, just happened to notice as I scrolled downwards. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Hugh Macartney > Sent: Thursday, 24 January 2008 3:36 p.m. > To: nir-down@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Ethelinda > > Compound names were frequently used in past centuries. In Ireland we > commonly find Maryanna and Maryann, Marijane rather than Mary Jane and so > on. I think it was just the fashion or to have a name which wasn't > "common". > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Juditoh@aol.com> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:20 PM > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Ethelinda > > >>I am wondering if the name isn't Ethel Linda and if the person writing the >> name as she heard it didn't make the combination. That could have been a >> clerk, >> priest or whomever wrote for whatever event was being identified. Having >> said that I love the combination. Since the name isn't my favorite >> adding > >> inda >> and making it one word would work for me. Judy >> >> >> In a message dated 1/23/2008 2:57:02 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, >> teacher@pmt.org writes: >> >> Fiona: Have you ever seen another name used for Ethelinda? I can't >> seem > >> to >> find it anywhere. thanks Ann

Would someone, please, be able to tell me where Lough Forth was or is located in Co. Down. I have been told the Johnston family who immigrated to the southwestern part of PA may be from there. Thank you, Linda Holley

I am also interested in the answer to this question, Lin, as I too have an old Orange Order Sash, the owner was also high up in the Masonic Lodge. And I also wonder where there may be information... Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "linda chapman" <linda_chapman4@btinternet.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] NIR-DOWN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 58 > Hi > > I am not even sure if this is a sensible question but I had this thought > so will ask. > > I > know my 3x gr grandfather James Rooney (or Roney) was buried in > Egremont in 1880 when his age was given as 45. He is on the 61 and 71 > census in Egremont, Cumberland when his birth place was given as Ireland, > as were > the births of his wife Elizabeth nee Taylor and his daughters Leticia > and Rosannah in 1848 and 1850, his younger children being born in > Egremont. There is a marriage for him and > Elizabeth on the IGI for 1853 in Egremont and we have a solicitors > letter dated 1953 that his daughters births were legitimised in January > 1927 with the introduction of the Illegitimacy Act. > > I do know > that within my Rooney family that I have just got in contact with, there > is also his Orange Order sash that is now so faded that even if there > had been any writing on it, it is now ileligable. As I am struggling > to find his place of birth I am clutching at straws when I ask if there > is any possibility of his Orange Lodge being in Cumberland? > > To > compound my research he was obviously a Protestant, one of his > daughters a devout Catholic and one of his sons was a Methodist. > > I am hoping sks can point me in the right direction as another question I > have is, are the members lists for Orange Lodges of that period open to > the public or are they still confidential? > > I have also put this on the google message board for Cumberland, although > I do realize that I am clutching at straws. > > Thank you for your time. > > Regards > > Lin > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, Fellow Researchers, I'm looking for information for a friend of mine, Robert Hugh Skillen, who lives in Canada. He was born in County Down, Belfast, in the 1940s. He had two siblings, William and Ann. They were all orphans. Their father was Robert Cecil Skillen who worked in Boyce Brothers in Finaghy. Their mother was Mary Matilda Spence who lived in or around Woodstock Castlereagh Rd. Area; she worked in Foster Greens Hospital. They both would have been born around 1915. Both of Robert's siblings (William and Ann) have died and he has no one left in his family and is interested in finding out more info about his parents. He has no idea who his grandparents were. Any help, suggestions, would be very much appreciated! Thank you, Joni

Griffith's Valuations for Annahilt Parish 1863-4 lists six Johnstons, mainly at Cluntagh townland but Johnston is a common name all over Co. Down. Are any first names known ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Holley" <ljholley@comcast.net> To: "County Down Mailing List" <NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:23 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Lough Forth > Would someone, please, be able to tell me where Lough Forth was or is > located in Co. Down. I have been told the Johnston family who immigrated > to the southwestern part of PA may be from there. > > Thank you, Linda Holley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have never heard of Lough Forth, Co. Down. Possibly it was Lough Farm which is at Annahilt or Loughfaghan at Ballyrolly. Is the writing clear ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Holley" <ljholley@comcast.net> To: "County Down Mailing List" <NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:23 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Lough Forth > Would someone, please, be able to tell me where Lough Forth was or is > located in Co. Down. I have been told the Johnston family who immigrated > to the southwestern part of PA may be from there. > > Thank you, Linda Holley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No, you won't get it on line, only from PRONI. It has: Baptismal Index 1771-1845 Marriage Index 1772-1844 Burial Index 1771-1841 Vol.1 PRONI Ref. CRI/54/1 or T 679/44 Vol. 2 " CRI/54/2 The original documents are held by the rector, Rev. R. Hewitt, 3, The Trees, Donaghadee, New Road, Donaghadee, County Down. However I doubt he would have the time to search through 70 years of records and PRONI is where you should apply. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Holley" <ljholley@comcast.net> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Help! McBride -McCutcheon > Is there an index to this book that might be online. Always looking for > Burnsides. > > Thank you, Linda > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Hugh Macartney <hhmacartney@shaw.ca> >> A book has been published concerning Portavo in 2003 and reviewed in >> North >> Irish Roots, the magazine put out by the North of Ireland Family History >> Society: >> Portavo: An Irish Townland and its Peoples Part One. Earliest times to >> 1844. >> By Peter Carr. Published 2003 by the White Row Pres, 135 Cumberland Rd., >> Dundonald, Belfast BT16 2BB Price 18 Pounds. >> The early 18th. C Parish Register for Donaghadee has been compiled by a >> Mrs >> Duguid in two volumes and is held at PRONI. I don't have the exact >> reference >> number at hand but perhaps they would send you a copy or pay a member of >> the >> Ulster Historical Society to photocopy it or at least look up the names >> for >> a fee. Whether Peter Carr gives information on your ancestors I can't say >> but the book was very well reviewed. It might be available at >> booksulster.com or one of the many used book sellers. If there are still >> McCutcheons and McBrides in the D'dee/Portavo area they would be listed >> at >> <bt.com> under either Bangor or Newtownards. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <jgraham@paradise.net.nz> >> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 2:21 AM >> Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Help! McBride -McCutcheon >> >> >> > Dear Listers, >> > >> > I would like some help trying to find information on my McBRIDE & >> > McCUTCHEON family from County Down Northern Ireland. >> > There names & what I know so far are; >> > >> > THOMAS McBRIDE b c1835 in North Down Northern Ireland. Father THOMAS >> > McBRIDE >> > married 21 January 1862 at >> > Millisle >> > & Ballycopeland Co Down >> > d 20 March 1908 at farm in >> > Portavo >> > Donaghadee Co Down age 73 >> > Wife; >> > CATHERINE McCUTCHEON b c 1835 in North Down Northern Ireland. Father >> > HUGH >> > McCUTCHEON >> > d 14 May 1925 at farm >> > Portavo Donaghadee Co Down >> > >> > I am trying to find their births & who there mothers were. Also any >> > brothers & sisters they had. >> > If some kind person can help me I will be truely grateful. >> > Regards >> > Jocelyn Graham >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello I wonder if someone can help. I am trying to find out where my G G Grandparents got married Eliza Beatty b 1821 and Samuel Crothers B 1823 .I know they lived in Annahilt I have found the Children they got Baptized in Annahilt Presbyterian Church but I couldn't find the marriage Regards Veneita

Some assorted newspaper clippings added at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/Assortedarticles.htm _________________ Fiona. ======= IGP Co. Down Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/ Author of The Miners of Mourne http://www.fipacian.com/MinersofMourne.htm

Can anyone tell me if PARKS and DARCY are common Irish Names? Thanks, Pat

Park is Scottish and Parkes English. Both are found in Ireland but are not native Irish names. D'Arcy is of French origin (Arcis - fortress dweller). Occasionally it can be a variant of the Irish name O'Dorchaudhe (Descendant of the dark one) but likely very rare. Since Ireland was invaded by the Anglo-Normans and the English in past centuries many of their names became common. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ppaws" <ppaws@netnet.net> To: "Irish" <NIR-DOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:41 AM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] PARKS DARCY > Can anyone tell me if PARKS and DARCY are common Irish Names? > Thanks, > Pat > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A book has been published concerning Portavo in 2003 and reviewed in North Irish Roots, the magazine put out by the North of Ireland Family History Society: Portavo: An Irish Townland and its Peoples Part One. Earliest times to 1844. By Peter Carr. Published 2003 by the White Row Pres, 135 Cumberland Rd., Dundonald, Belfast BT16 2BB Price 18 Pounds. The early 18th. C Parish Register for Donaghadee has been compiled by a Mrs Duguid in two volumes and is held at PRONI. I don't have the exact reference number at hand but perhaps they would send you a copy or pay a member of the Ulster Historical Society to photocopy it or at least look up the names for a fee. Whether Peter Carr gives information on your ancestors I can't say but the book was very well reviewed. It might be available at booksulster.com or one of the many used book sellers. If there are still McCutcheons and McBrides in the D'dee/Portavo area they would be listed at <bt.com> under either Bangor or Newtownards. ----- Original Message ----- From: <jgraham@paradise.net.nz> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 2:21 AM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Help! McBride -McCutcheon > Dear Listers, > > I would like some help trying to find information on my McBRIDE & > McCUTCHEON family from County Down Northern Ireland. > There names & what I know so far are; > > THOMAS McBRIDE b c1835 in North Down Northern Ireland. Father THOMAS > McBRIDE > married 21 January 1862 at Millisle > & Ballycopeland Co Down > d 20 March 1908 at farm in Portavo > Donaghadee Co Down age 73 > Wife; > CATHERINE McCUTCHEON b c 1835 in North Down Northern Ireland. Father HUGH > McCUTCHEON > d 14 May 1925 at farm > Portavo Donaghadee Co Down > > I am trying to find their births & who there mothers were. Also any > brothers & sisters they had. > If some kind person can help me I will be truely grateful. > Regards > Jocelyn Graham > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't know if anyone is interested in the America/U.S. vicinity, but there is a fairly distinct family of CARRs in the Rhode Island area from the 1600s/late into the 1700s/mid, and then they branched out up into New York, etc. etc. I think I still have some records regarding this name and my people (the BRIGGS clan) from the Rhode Island/Pennsylvania/New York areas. Barb By. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

Mary--was it connected to a Thompson or Hamilton?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Legarth" <legarthm@levin.pl.net> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:44 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Ethelinda > Fiona, > The name Ethelinda, written as that, just popped up, today while > researching > some New Zealand material. > It was among some later 1800's names . > Was not looking for it, just happened to notice as I scrolled downwards. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Hugh Macartney > Sent: Thursday, 24 January 2008 3:36 p.m. > To: nir-down@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Ethelinda > > Compound names were frequently used in past centuries. In Ireland we > commonly find Maryanna and Maryann, Marijane rather than Mary Jane and so > on. I think it was just the fashion or to have a name which wasn't > "common". > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Juditoh@aol.com> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:20 PM > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Ethelinda > > >>I am wondering if the name isn't Ethel Linda and if the person writing the >> name as she heard it didn't make the combination. That could have been a >> clerk, >> priest or whomever wrote for whatever event was being identified. Having >> said that I love the combination. Since the name isn't my favorite >> adding > >> inda >> and making it one word would work for me. Judy >> >> >> In a message dated 1/23/2008 2:57:02 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, >> teacher@pmt.org writes: >> >> Fiona: Have you ever seen another name used for Ethelinda? I can't >> seem > >> to >> find it anywhere. thanks Ann > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hi then I withdraw my statement, and say brilliant, my sentiments exactly :.) big smile Alex On Jan 28, 2008 3:23 PM, Robt & Wendy Stevenson <stevensons@odyssey.on.ca> wrote: > Alex, > Thank you for your comments, but I would like to clarify that I did not > mean > to 'apologise' for his illegitimacy (in those days they were called > 'natural' children). In fact I greatly admire his mother who had 3 > children > by the same father, who went on to produce other children by different > women. She raised those children without the benefits of marriage, an > in-law family's help, during difficult times in Ireland as a single > mother. > I cannot imagine her struggles! > Wendy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alex Farquhar" <weedodger@googlemail.com> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 7:31 AM > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] BRICKWALL Secret Researcher > > > > Hi Rob&Wendy > > I am surprised that you felt the need to apologise for the illegitimacy > , > > I > > have found over the period of my researching that in these hard times > past > > when our ancestors had to struggle just to make a crust survival was the > > name of the game and if they survived then so did we, never frown or > > apologise for our past they were our survival,and be proud of it , and > > please do not take this as a slight upon your remarks remarks , Iknow > you > > are as proud as we all are of our past and I also agree with you that > > those > > silent researchers are "pure dead brilliant " > > Alex > > > > On Jan 28, 2008 12:55 AM, Robt & Wendy Stevenson > > <stevensons@odyssey.on.ca> > > wrote: > > > >> What a lovely thought, and thank you for sharing. It is so kind and > >> generous of Secret R to take the time and effort to help one or some of > >> us > >> - > >> without even the credit of identifying him/herself! I'm impressed. > And > >> it > >> reminds me again that without the people on this and other lists, we > >> wouldn't have the resources or encouragement to find our families. > Most > >> of > >> ours are buried in unmarked plots, a situation which I would like to > >> rectify. I need to find them first.! > >> My Brickwall is CORRY SOMERVILLE and his descendents. He was an > >> illegitimate son of our grgrandpa Corry Somerville. And there are no > >> other > >> Somervilles....my husband (Stevenson) is an only child, so I would like > >> to > >> link him with kin, and who cares if they were illegitimate!! Any > >> descendents may also want to know a little more about their family. I > >> have > >> traced them back through the Plantation. > >> Anyway, thank you Secret Researcher! > >> Wendy in a blizzard in Canada > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Roxanne Neel" <roxanne4mastiffs@verizon.net> > >> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 11:15 AM > >> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] BRICKWALL Secret Researcher > >> > >> > >> > Another HUGE THANK YOU for the terrific help so generously given by > the > >> > "Secret" Researcher! > >> > With Great Appreciation! > >> > Roxanne in California, USA > >> > > >> > > >> > Fiona Jones wrote: > >> > > >> >>Also a GREAT BIG THANK YOU to our "secret" researcher who picks names > >> from > >> >>those listed and conducts some research at PRONI to help breakdown > >> >>those > >> >>BRICKWALLS. I know many of you on the LIST have had help. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>Fiona. > >> >> > >> >>IGP Co. Down Coordinator > >> >> > >> >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/ > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>------------------------------- > >> >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> >>NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > twocats > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- twocats

I read with interest the submission by Hugh McCartney and Nicola Jennings with regards to the CARR and ROWAN names, my great great Grandmother Jane McCulloch was born 1855 in Kirkmaiden by Drummore in Wigtonshire,Scotland... almost directly across the water from the Newonards Penninsula of Co. Down. Her parents were William MCCULLOCH (McCULLAGH) and MARY CARR who were from Ballywalter and Kirkcubbin respectively ... details obtained re this marriage are Marriage in Newtownards Registry Officer - 30 Oct 1847: William McCullagh, full age, bachelor from Ballywalter, labourer (father William, labourer) to Mary Kerr, full age, spinster from Ballywalter (father John, farmer). Witnesses: Ann Kerr and James Fisher. Interestingly her full name as per the Scottish birth certificate is JANE ROAN MCCULLOCH. Is it fair to assume this was a simple acknowledgment of the Irish patriot ...

Hi Rob&Wendy I am surprised that you felt the need to apologise for the illegitimacy , I have found over the period of my researching that in these hard times past when our ancestors had to struggle just to make a crust survival was the name of the game and if they survived then so did we, never frown or apologise for our past they were our survival,and be proud of it , and please do not take this as a slight upon your remarks remarks , Iknow you are as proud as we all are of our past and I also agree with you that those silent researchers are "pure dead brilliant " Alex On Jan 28, 2008 12:55 AM, Robt & Wendy Stevenson <stevensons@odyssey.on.ca> wrote: > What a lovely thought, and thank you for sharing. It is so kind and > generous of Secret R to take the time and effort to help one or some of us > - > without even the credit of identifying him/herself! I'm impressed. And > it > reminds me again that without the people on this and other lists, we > wouldn't have the resources or encouragement to find our families. Most > of > ours are buried in unmarked plots, a situation which I would like to > rectify. I need to find them first.! > My Brickwall is CORRY SOMERVILLE and his descendents. He was an > illegitimate son of our grgrandpa Corry Somerville. And there are no > other > Somervilles....my husband (Stevenson) is an only child, so I would like to > link him with kin, and who cares if they were illegitimate!! Any > descendents may also want to know a little more about their family. I > have > traced them back through the Plantation. > Anyway, thank you Secret Researcher! > Wendy in a blizzard in Canada > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roxanne Neel" <roxanne4mastiffs@verizon.net> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 11:15 AM > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] BRICKWALL Secret Researcher > > > > Another HUGE THANK YOU for the terrific help so generously given by the > > "Secret" Researcher! > > With Great Appreciation! > > Roxanne in California, USA > > > > > > Fiona Jones wrote: > > > >>Also a GREAT BIG THANK YOU to our "secret" researcher who picks names > from > >>those listed and conducts some research at PRONI to help breakdown those > >>BRICKWALLS. I know many of you on the LIST have had help. > >> > >> > >> > >>Fiona. > >> > >>IGP Co. Down Coordinator > >> > >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/ > >> > >> > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- twocats

I would also like to add my thanks to the ''THE SECRET RESEARCHER'' on the help that we have had on the MURRAYS at Clanvaraghan and Slievenisky A Big Thankyou Sue Caterham UK