Not really. Rathfriland is about 3 miles NE of Newry. Comber is near the head of Strangford Lough about 40 miles to the north as the crow flies - much more by road. You should get hold of an ordnance survey map of N.Ireland - sheet 4. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roxanne Neel" <roxanne4mastiffs@verizon.net> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Morrow/McBurney,McBiernie,McBernie > Hugh, > Is Comber Graveyard any where near Rathfriland? I am having trouble > finding the graves of Waddell MORROW and his wife Anna ROWAN who were > married 1877 at Brookvale Presbyterian near Rathfriland. > Thank you, > Roxanne Neel > P.O. Box 9338 > Cedarpines Park, California 92322 > USA > Researching: MORROW, ROWAN, DIXON, KENNEDY, WHAN, WADDELL, and WOODS in > Northern Ireland and Scotland. > > > Hugh Macartney wrote: > >>There are several Hill and even more Morrow gravestones in Comber >>Graveyard. >>One Morrow in Killinchy Non-Subscribing Presb. graveyard. Only one Morrow >>listed in Killinchy Presb. graveyard under Gourley headstone. >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "sharon Maupin" <ladishar@hotmail.com> >>To: <NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:12 PM >>Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Morrow/McBurney,McBiernie,McBernie >> >> >> >> >>>I am very new at this research for Irish roots, but here is what I have. >>>I >>>have found the Anna Morrow Russell and her Husband on some free sites. >>> >>>I can't confirm the rest of this family. I do know that some of this >>>family went to Scotland, but I can't confirm the parents marriage, births >>>etc. I am hoping for some help it leading me in the right direction on >>>this. >>>Thank you in advanced. >>> >>>Robert Morrow [Cobbler] [Laborer] [Carter] b: abt 1806 [1794][CO Down, >>>Ireland] >>> Margaret/Sarah McBurnie [McBiernie] [Burney] [Parish Doonaugh, Ireland] >>> (Found both on 1871 Scotland Census age 77) >>>William Morrow [Coalminer] c: 16 July 1823 Killinchy,, Co. Down, >>>Ireland >>> sp: Charlotte Hill b: Ireland, [Co. Down] >>> >>>John Morrow b: 24 JAN 1826 Ballymorran, Down, Ireland d: 12 Jan 1901 New >>>Kilpatrick, Dumbarton, Scotland >>> sp: Frances Moore b 1828 d: 14 July 1894[both in New Kilpatrick, >>>Dumbarton, Scotland] >>> m: 8 Jan 1841 Killalaigh, Co Down, Ireland >>> parents: John Moore >>> Rosanna McPhern >>> >>>Robert Morrow b: Ireland, Co. Down 1835 d: 1915 Hamilton, Lanark, >>>Scotland >>>[died in the poorhouse] >>> sp: Mary Steel b: 1839 d: 1893 St Rollox, Lanark, Scotland [died in the >>>poorhouse] >>> >>>Anna Morrow b:1829 Ballymorran, Down, Ireland , m: 03 APR 1852 >>>Killinchy, , Down, Ireland d: 1899 , , Ireland >>> sp: William Sr. RUSSELL >>> b: 06 JUN 1830 Presbyterian,Killinchy Parish, , Down, Ireland >>> M: 03 APR 1852 Killinchy, , Down, Ireland >>> D: 1918 >>> >>>Margaret Morrow c: 1 Sept 1833 Ballymorran, Co. Down, Ireland >>> sp: Thomas Mc Mullan/McMillan c: 01 MAR 1822 >>>Presbyterian,Killinchy, ,Down, Ireland >>> [mother: Jane McMillan] >>> m: 20 July 1854 Presbyterian Killyleagh,Down, Ireland >>> >>> >>> >>>Sharon Maupin >>> >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> www.eppi.ac.uk/eppi/digbib/home James, it is a searchable list of documents held in England, with reference to Irish issues. The journal to which I refer is a summary of the 26th report of the Deputy Keeper of Public Records, and has Marriage Licence Bonds, Wills and 'I' - whatever that is - listed in the appendix, back to 1714 at least. I am looking for info in the volume that is referred to in the appendix. Check the website, put in your surname, townland, etc. and see what you get! Wendy

I am hoping to get an opinion on something..especially all of you who are our Down History experts..and may have other info on the Needhams.. I am trying to find out about General Needham (around 1806)... ..I wonder if he could have been involved with the smuggling going on...I know this was on a large scale...and if it were just the locals involved and all knew about it, it seems it could have been stopped..and yet it when on..as if they had some help at the top... ..... in the Kilmorey Papers, the Postmaster of Ireland seems to insinuate something regarding the smuggling there..... read these two pages: http://www.proni.gov.uk/introduction_kilmorey_d2638-2.pdf am I reading more into this? B-

Hugh, Is Comber Graveyard any where near Rathfriland? I am having trouble finding the graves of Waddell MORROW and his wife Anna ROWAN who were married 1877 at Brookvale Presbyterian near Rathfriland. Thank you, Roxanne Neel P.O. Box 9338 Cedarpines Park, California 92322 USA Researching: MORROW, ROWAN, DIXON, KENNEDY, WHAN, WADDELL, and WOODS in Northern Ireland and Scotland. Hugh Macartney wrote: >There are several Hill and even more Morrow gravestones in Comber Graveyard. >One Morrow in Killinchy Non-Subscribing Presb. graveyard. Only one Morrow >listed in Killinchy Presb. graveyard under Gourley headstone. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "sharon Maupin" <ladishar@hotmail.com> >To: <NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:12 PM >Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Morrow/McBurney,McBiernie,McBernie > > > > >>I am very new at this research for Irish roots, but here is what I have. I >>have found the Anna Morrow Russell and her Husband on some free sites. >> >>I can't confirm the rest of this family. I do know that some of this >>family went to Scotland, but I can't confirm the parents marriage, births >>etc. I am hoping for some help it leading me in the right direction on >>this. >>Thank you in advanced. >> >>Robert Morrow [Cobbler] [Laborer] [Carter] b: abt 1806 [1794][CO Down, >>Ireland] >> Margaret/Sarah McBurnie [McBiernie] [Burney] [Parish Doonaugh, Ireland] >> (Found both on 1871 Scotland Census age 77) >>William Morrow [Coalminer] c: 16 July 1823 Killinchy,, Co. Down, Ireland >> sp: Charlotte Hill b: Ireland, [Co. Down] >> >>John Morrow b: 24 JAN 1826 Ballymorran, Down, Ireland d: 12 Jan 1901 New >>Kilpatrick, Dumbarton, Scotland >> sp: Frances Moore b 1828 d: 14 July 1894[both in New Kilpatrick, >>Dumbarton, Scotland] >> m: 8 Jan 1841 Killalaigh, Co Down, Ireland >> parents: John Moore >> Rosanna McPhern >> >>Robert Morrow b: Ireland, Co. Down 1835 d: 1915 Hamilton, Lanark, Scotland >>[died in the poorhouse] >> sp: Mary Steel b: 1839 d: 1893 St Rollox, Lanark, Scotland [died in the >>poorhouse] >> >>Anna Morrow b:1829 Ballymorran, Down, Ireland , m: 03 APR 1852 >>Killinchy, , Down, Ireland d: 1899 , , Ireland >> sp: William Sr. RUSSELL >> b: 06 JUN 1830 Presbyterian,Killinchy Parish, , Down, Ireland >> M: 03 APR 1852 Killinchy, , Down, Ireland >> D: 1918 >> >>Margaret Morrow c: 1 Sept 1833 Ballymorran, Co. Down, Ireland >> sp: Thomas Mc Mullan/McMillan c: 01 MAR 1822 >>Presbyterian,Killinchy, ,Down, Ireland >> [mother: Jane McMillan] >> m: 20 July 1854 Presbyterian Killyleagh,Down, Ireland >> >> >> >>Sharon Maupin >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Hi Merseyside These were a little after my 3x gr grandads time but they are very interesting to read, thank you. Regards Lin ----- Original Message ---- From: Merseyside <robertcampbell.1@blueyonder.co.uk> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 5 February, 2008 3:15:41 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Reply from Grand Orange Lodge of Ireland Egremont is in Cumbria, many from Northern Ireland went to Cumberland during the famine as it was near http://www.themoor.ukf.net/html/history/orange_order.html http://www.cultrans.com/1881-1890/july-30-1884-orange-riots.html > Hi > > A few days ago we had a discussion about membership of Orange Lodges and I > said I would let you know when I had a reply, so here goes: > > Dear Linda, > > > Thank you for your recent enquiry. I am > afraid that we do not have a centralized database of members and so rely > on the > lodge number of the individual to progress a manual search. There are > currently > almost 1200 Orange Lodges in Ireland , > so you can imagine the scale of the search without a number. The name > Egremont > does not ring any bells, but it could be a local name from anywhere in > Ireland . The > Orange Order also existed (still does) in England , > where areas such as Preston, Bolton, Manchester , > Liverpool were strong centres. If you wish to > contact the Grand Secretary of England > his details are; > > > > > > davidtaggart3@hotmail.com > > > > > > I am sorry I cannot offer more help at > this stage, but if a lodge number does turn up it would be a major boon. > You > could also find it on certificates which James would have had. > > > > > > Best of luck in your quest, > > > > > > David Hume > > > > > > > > > Dr. David Hume MBE > > > Director of Services > > > Grand Orange Lodge of > Ireland > > > Schomberg House > > > 368 Cregagh Road, > > > Belfast, > BT6 9EY, > > > Northern Ireland > > > > > I then emailed him and asked if I could reproduce his reply on various > sites and here is his email: > > > Linda, I am happy to have this reply > reproduced on the e-mailing lists – but please tell people to be patient > if > enquiring of us! > > > Regards > > > > > > David > > > Regards > > > Lin > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Peter Part of my original email to them did say that my 3x gr grandfather was living in Egremont, just outside of Whitehaven Cumberland in his later years so I believe that he has just misread my email. Regards Lin ----- Original Message ---- From: Peter McGuinness <pmcguinness@sbcglobal.net> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 5 February, 2008 4:05:36 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Reply from Grand Orange Lodge of Ireland Egremont is in Cumberland, I believe. Peter linda chapman wrote: > Hi > > A few days ago we had a discussion about membership of Orange Lodges and I said I would let you know when I had a reply, so here goes: > > Dear Linda, > > > Thank you for your recent enquiry. I am > afraid that we do not have a centralized database of members and so rely on the > lodge number of the individual to progress a manual search. There are currently > almost 1200 Orange Lodges in Ireland , > so you can imagine the scale of the search without a number. The name Egremont > does not ring any bells, but it could be a local name from anywhere in > Ireland . The > Orange Order also existed (still does) in England , > where areas such as Preston, Bolton, Manchester , > Liverpool were strong centres. If you wish to > contact the Grand Secretary of England > his details are; > > > > > > davidtaggart3@hotmail.com > > > > > > I am sorry I cannot offer more help at > this stage, but if a lodge number does turn up it would be a major boon. You > could also find it on certificates which James would have had. > > > > > > Best of luck in your quest, > > > > > > David Hume > > > > > > > > > Dr. David Hume MBE > > > Director of Services > > > Grand Orange Lodge of > Ireland > > > Schomberg House > > > 368 Cregagh Road, > > > Belfast, > BT6 9EY, > > > Northern Ireland > > > > > I then emailed him and asked if I could reproduce his reply on various sites and here is his email: > > > Linda, I am happy to have this reply > reproduced on the e-mailing lists – but please tell people to be patient if > enquiring of us! > > > Regards > > > > > > David > > > Regards > > > Lin > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am fortunate to have found family members in the EPPI, but can someone tell me the following: In the appendix to Twenty-Sixth Report of the Deputy Keeper of Public Records, under Nature of REcord, it lists: ML, W or I. what does the I stand for?? Also, if there is a name in this appendix,does this mean that there is a book somewhere with more info? Thanks, Wendy

Egremont is in Cumbria, many from Northern Ireland went to Cumberland during the famine as it was near http://www.themoor.ukf.net/html/history/orange_order.html http://www.cultrans.com/1881-1890/july-30-1884-orange-riots.html > Hi > > A few days ago we had a discussion about membership of Orange Lodges and I > said I would let you know when I had a reply, so here goes: > > Dear Linda, > > > Thank you for your recent enquiry. I am > afraid that we do not have a centralized database of members and so rely > on the > lodge number of the individual to progress a manual search. There are > currently > almost 1200 Orange Lodges in Ireland , > so you can imagine the scale of the search without a number. The name > Egremont > does not ring any bells, but it could be a local name from anywhere in > Ireland . The > Orange Order also existed (still does) in England , > where areas such as Preston, Bolton, Manchester , > Liverpool were strong centres. If you wish to > contact the Grand Secretary of England > his details are; > > > > > > davidtaggart3@hotmail.com > > > > > > I am sorry I cannot offer more help at > this stage, but if a lodge number does turn up it would be a major boon. > You > could also find it on certificates which James would have had. > > > > > > Best of luck in your quest, > > > > > > David Hume > > > > > > > > > Dr. David Hume MBE > > > Director of Services > > > Grand Orange Lodge of > Ireland > > > Schomberg House > > > 368 Cregagh Road, > > > Belfast, > BT6 9EY, > > > Northern Ireland > > > > > I then emailed him and asked if I could reproduce his reply on various > sites and here is his email: > > > Linda, I am happy to have this reply > reproduced on the e-mailing lists – but please tell people to be patient > if > enquiring of us! > > > Regards > > > > > > David > > > Regards > > > Lin > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi A few days ago we had a discussion about membership of Orange Lodges and I said I would let you know when I had a reply, so here goes: Dear Linda, Thank you for your recent enquiry. I am afraid that we do not have a centralized database of members and so rely on the lodge number of the individual to progress a manual search. There are currently almost 1200 Orange Lodges in Ireland , so you can imagine the scale of the search without a number. The name Egremont does not ring any bells, but it could be a local name from anywhere in Ireland . The Orange Order also existed (still does) in England , where areas such as Preston, Bolton, Manchester , Liverpool were strong centres. If you wish to contact the Grand Secretary of England his details are; davidtaggart3@hotmail.com I am sorry I cannot offer more help at this stage, but if a lodge number does turn up it would be a major boon. You could also find it on certificates which James would have had. Best of luck in your quest, David Hume Dr. David Hume MBE Director of Services Grand Orange Lodge of Ireland Schomberg House 368 Cregagh Road, Belfast, BT6 9EY, Northern Ireland I then emailed him and asked if I could reproduce his reply on various sites and here is his email: Linda, I am happy to have this reply reproduced on the e-mailing lists – but please tell people to be patient if enquiring of us! Regards David Regards Lin

Hi I can not see them or those names on the 1911 census for Magheralin, it is not far from Lurgan. Greta > > Can anyone tell me where this is located, (see below) Outside of > Warrenpoint? Outside of Kilkeel...on the Lurgan Rd?...which would it be > closest to- > Lurganconary, Lurganreagh, or Ballyardel. > Wouldn't the marriage place be close to the couples home? > > Name: John Newell Marriage: 1825 Marriage Place: Magheralin, County Down, > Northern Ireland Spouse: Jane Marmion > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 > 48) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.15/1249 - Release Date: > 29/01/2008 9:51 a.m. > >

Egremont is in Cumberland, I believe. Peter linda chapman wrote: > Hi > > A few days ago we had a discussion about membership of Orange Lodges and I said I would let you know when I had a reply, so here goes: > > Dear Linda, > > > Thank you for your recent enquiry. I am > afraid that we do not have a centralized database of members and so rely on the > lodge number of the individual to progress a manual search. There are currently > almost 1200 Orange Lodges in Ireland , > so you can imagine the scale of the search without a number. The name Egremont > does not ring any bells, but it could be a local name from anywhere in > Ireland . The > Orange Order also existed (still does) in England , > where areas such as Preston, Bolton, Manchester , > Liverpool were strong centres. If you wish to > contact the Grand Secretary of England > his details are; > > > > > > davidtaggart3@hotmail.com > > > > > > I am sorry I cannot offer more help at > this stage, but if a lodge number does turn up it would be a major boon. You > could also find it on certificates which James would have had. > > > > > > Best of luck in your quest, > > > > > > David Hume > > > > > > > > > Dr. David Hume MBE > > > Director of Services > > > Grand Orange Lodge of > Ireland > > > Schomberg House > > > 368 Cregagh Road, > > > Belfast, > BT6 9EY, > > > Northern Ireland > > > > > I then emailed him and asked if I could reproduce his reply on various sites and here is his email: > > > Linda, I am happy to have this reply > reproduced on the e-mailing lists – but please tell people to be patient if > enquiring of us! > > > Regards > > > > > > David > > > Regards > > > Lin > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sean, Thank you, yes, the link Judy sent me yesterday to the maps made me realize that in order to see all of the old ancestors neighborhood, you had to go to Google UK maps, the one here will not allow you to see it...it's all fuzzy...and when I did I saw the whole area close up for the first time and I can see how they were able to conduct the smuggling operation, they would undoubtedly pull into that cove area in Cranfield beach, then they had a short distance to go up to Lurganconary and Ballyardel...the roads have these names! I was hoping that the location of Magheralin would tell me who's daughter Jane Marmion was...but not so lucky there. Have you run across any information on the smuggling operations that involved many folks in the area? Did the liquor come from France, or made in Ireland? What did they do with it? Sell it locally? I imagine the authorities couldn't tell it apart from the legally imported stuff once it got into the marketplace. I understand it was Alex Chesney that was there to keep watch and make sure it didn't happen, which would have been difficult since he lived in the neighborhood and was looking for a promotion. It is looking like the Marmions remained in this business when they came to New Orleans, though probably (not smuggling) just importing, so the source may have been the same. It looks so large, involving many members of the Marmion family all over the US, perhaps even Canada, all involved....until the 1890's and prohabition began. Thanks again! Sean McCartan <smccartan@utvinternet.com> wrote: Lurganconary is less than one mile from Ballyardle and is adjacent to Cranfield beach, where Carlingford Lough joins the sea. A Marmion family lived beside the Grange Church in the townland of Lurganconary. -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of B Marmion Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:01 PM To: NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Magheralin, County Down Can anyone tell me where this is located, (see below) Outside of Warrenpoint? Outside of Kilkeel...on the Lurgan Rd?...which would it be closest to- Lurganconary, Lurganreagh, or Ballyardel. Wouldn't the marriage place be close to the couples home? Name: John Newell Marriage: 1825 Marriage Place: Magheralin, County Down, Northern Ireland Spouse: Jane Marmion ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1256 - Release Date: 2/2/2008 1:50 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1256 - Release Date: 2/2/2008 1:50 PM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Brigitte brigitte@marmionfamilytree.com www.marmionfamilytree.com

Lurganconary is less than one mile from Ballyardle and is adjacent to Cranfield beach, where Carlingford Lough joins the sea. A Marmion family lived beside the Grange Church in the townland of Lurganconary. -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of B Marmion Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:01 PM To: NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Magheralin, County Down Can anyone tell me where this is located, (see below) Outside of Warrenpoint? Outside of Kilkeel...on the Lurgan Rd?...which would it be closest to- Lurganconary, Lurganreagh, or Ballyardel. Wouldn't the marriage place be close to the couples home? Name: John Newell Marriage: 1825 Marriage Place: Magheralin, County Down, Northern Ireland Spouse: Jane Marmion ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1256 - Release Date: 2/2/2008 1:50 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1256 - Release Date: 2/2/2008 1:50 PM

Thank you, Rosemary. On Feb 4, 2008, at 5:37 AM, Rosemary Joan McCormack wrote: > BUT there are two births registered in Co. Down in 1895 for > Catherine Rice - > in Ulster Historical Foundation pay per view records > www.ancestryireland.com > RosemaryJoan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Pssheila@aol.com> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 11:32 PM > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] who were the parents of little Catherine Rice? > > >> Nan >> >> The births on Emerald only go from 1865 to 1875 at the moment - >> they did >> say they would put some more on. The only earlier ones are those from >> Kilkeel >> baptisms. >> >> Sheila >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I have a question about my DICKSON Family. I know most were born in Loughbrickland. I have found a cousin on the internet who is descended from my great great grandfather's sister. She has sent me some old letters written early 1900s. From Sydney, N.S.Wales, Australia to Ireland and it is asking question about the Dickson Family. She is asking if this relative remembers or knows anything about a Squire Dickson, Newry Hall about 1 English mile from Newry. There are several great stories about this Squire. He could have lived 2-3 hundred years ago. She thinks he owned Newry Hall or Fisnagammon Estate, it seems he lost his home to a man by the name McCullough. I was wondering if any of these places ring a bell with someone. Or should I be looking in Armagh? These are the most interesting letters I feel so lucky to have them. Thanks for listening. E l a i n e J. T h e O t h e r E l a i n e S u m n e r, W as h i n g t o n U S A

My interactive map of the Administration districts of Ireland now includes Limerick. The map now shows: - maps of county and modern council boundaries for all of Ireland - the names of all Baronies and PLUs in Ireland - the locations of all baronies and PLUs in Limerick and Ulster - note the location is indicated by a marker showing the approximate centre, not a boundary map - the names of all Civil Parishes in Limerick and Ulster - the Civil Parish boundary maps for all of Northern Ireland and Limerick - the names of all RC Parishes in Limerick and Ulster - either the locations (as above) or boundary maps, for all RC Parishes in Northern Ireland and Limerick - all names and some boundary maps for Antrim Townlands - a selection of names and boundary maps of townlands in the rest of Ulster and Limerick Please let me know if you spot any errors. Some observations of web resources: - In Limerick, "The New Genealogical Atlas of Ireland" and the several websites which have copied this map include a few errors (the first that I have noticed in this excellent resource): - parish 23 in the east is actually 22 - one part of Loghill Parish not shown - it fills the little 'dimple' shown on the north coast in Kilfergus parish - parish 57 in the NE is actually 37, Clonkeen - Both the IreAtlas and Irish Ancestors sites contain a surprising number of errors (well probably not that surprising when you consider that the original is 1000+ pages of very fine type). They are both sourced from the General Index to the 1851 census. Errors include spelling (usually in places that are very hard to read in the book), townlands where the transcriber has swapped lines and put it into the wrong parish or county and some parishes which have been lost altogether. My observation is that the error rate is about 3-5% with IreAtlas being a bit better than Irish Ancestors and so it is best to check both and then triple check if they differ. - Also in looking up records, you should keep in mind that the parish a townland is in differs, sometimes very significantly, from the 1851 census to Griffith's Valuation. I have included some notes in the popup information windows on the map where I have noted differences. -- Kind Regards Murray Christchurch New Zealand Visit us at KiwiCelts.com <http://kiwicelts.com> * Cemeteries of New Zealand - Map, List and Web-links * Parishes of Northern Ireland - Map * Our Family History

Ann, I posted another couple of e mails, however, it seems I was not subscribed to the list, they may yet appear, however, the info' I now have, supersedes those messages. Ethelinda Mairs HARRISON married 1922, William James RANGER. She seems to have come from the middle of the North Island. She died age 26 yrs, in 1930, in , I think, the Otago area. There is no way of telling what her background was. Mary -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann Martin Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2008 8:07 p.m. To: nir-down@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Ethelinda Mary--was it connected to a Thompson or Hamilton?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Legarth" <legarthm@levin.pl.net> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:44 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Ethelinda > Fiona, > The name Ethelinda, written as that, just popped up, today while > researching > some New Zealand material. > It was among some later 1800's names . > Was not looking for it, just happened to notice as I scrolled downwards. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Hugh Macartney > Sent: Thursday, 24 January 2008 3:36 p.m. > To: nir-down@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Ethelinda > > Compound names were frequently used in past centuries. In Ireland we > commonly find Maryanna and Maryann, Marijane rather than Mary Jane and so > on. I think it was just the fashion or to have a name which wasn't > "common". > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Juditoh@aol.com> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:20 PM > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Ethelinda > > >>I am wondering if the name isn't Ethel Linda and if the person writing the >> name as she heard it didn't make the combination. That could have been a >> clerk, >> priest or whomever wrote for whatever event was being identified. Having >> said that I love the combination. Since the name isn't my favorite >> adding > >> inda >> and making it one word would work for me. Judy >> >> >> In a message dated 1/23/2008 2:57:02 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, >> teacher@pmt.org writes: >> >> Fiona: Have you ever seen another name used for Ethelinda? I can't >> seem > >> to >> find it anywhere. thanks Ann > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ NOD32 2829 (20080128) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

You are welcome and be aware that the following site _http://www.geograph.org.uk/mapbrowse.php_ (http://www.geograph.org.uk/mapbrowse.php) is beginning to try to photograph everywhere in the British Isles including all of Ireland by asking folks interested and able to send in their photos mapped to their grid. It is amazing how fast it is growing. While I love google maps for a birds eye view it is also nice to get the view from land too. Try it there are 15 pictures in/near Mageralin. Enjoy your searches. Judy McKeon In a message dated 2/4/2008 4:12:53 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, info@marmionfamilytree.com writes: Thank you so much Judith! this http://www.british-towns.net/ni/level_4_display.asp?GetL3=13657 is an great resource of detailed maps...and handy in more than just this instance. I have been looking for something like this....and now I know exactly where Magheralin is. (not at all where I expected it) Juditoh@aol.com wrote: Try the following link for Magheralin _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magheralin_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magheralin) , or _http://www.ninis.nisra.gov.uk/mapxtreme_towns/report.asp?settlementName=Maghe ralin&BandName=Village_ (http://www.ninis.nisra.gov.uk/mapxtreme_towns/report.asp?settlementName=Maghe rali n&BandName=Village) , or I just foound a great map at _http://www.british-towns.net/ni/level_4_display.asp?GetL3=13657_ (http://www.british-towns.net/ni/level_4_display.asp?GetL3=13657) Judy In a message dated 2/4/2008 3:02:24 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, info@marmionfamilytree.com writes: Can anyone tell me where this is located, (see below) Outside of Warrenpoint? Outside of Kilkeel...on the Lurgan Rd?...which would it be closest to- Lurganconary, Lurganreagh, or Ballyardel. Wouldn't the marriage place be close to the couples home? Name: John Newell Marriage: 1825 Marriage Place: Magheralin, County Down, Northern Ireland Spouse: Jane Marmion ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000 025 48) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Brigitte brigitte@marmionfamilytree.com www.marmionfamilytree.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

Try the following link for Magheralin _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magheralin_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magheralin) , or _http://www.ninis.nisra.gov.uk/mapxtreme_towns/report.asp?settlementName=Magheralin&BandName=Village_ (http://www.ninis.nisra.gov.uk/mapxtreme_towns/report.asp?settlementName=Magherali n&BandName=Village) , or I just foound a great map at _http://www.british-towns.net/ni/level_4_display.asp?GetL3=13657_ (http://www.british-towns.net/ni/level_4_display.asp?GetL3=13657) Judy In a message dated 2/4/2008 3:02:24 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, info@marmionfamilytree.com writes: Can anyone tell me where this is located, (see below) Outside of Warrenpoint? Outside of Kilkeel...on the Lurgan Rd?...which would it be closest to- Lurganconary, Lurganreagh, or Ballyardel. Wouldn't the marriage place be close to the couples home? Name: John Newell Marriage: 1825 Marriage Place: Magheralin, County Down, Northern Ireland Spouse: Jane Marmion ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

David NEVIN born about 1794. Died 1888. Had small Linen business in Donaghadee. Wife not yet known. Children included Thomas, Elizabeth Mary, Sarah, James, Samuel (born from about 1820 to 1837). Grandson John TAYLOR born in 1843, was working on merchant ships for about 7 years. Arrived in Australia 1870. Anyone who can help please contact Mavis TAYLOR.