Hi All, Just a slight correction to the PRONI address posted recently. It is in Balmoral Avenue, not Balmoral Street. There is a Balmoral Street, although not nearby. To confuse you all further, there is also a Dromore in Co. Tyrone. Regards, David

Thanks for all your hard work Pete - I am using your site EVERY day. So pleased to have the search facility. Fiona. ======= IGP Co. Down Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/index.htm Author of Miners of Mourne http://www.fipacian.com/MinersofMourne.htm -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter J Meaney Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 6:12 PM To: Nir-Down@Rootsweb.Com Subject: [NIR-DOWN] 1901 Census Ballynahatton townland Kilkeel CP I have added the 1901 Census for Ballynahatton townland Kilkeel CP to my web site. It can be reached via the latest updates link on my homepage. I have changed things slightly and included several townlands on the same page, Ballynahatton will be found by scrolling down this page. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~meaneypj/index.htm regards Pete Peterjmeaney@ntlworld.com <mailto:Peterjmeaney@ntlworld.com> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Linda - you don't sound dumb - just young - and with hope for us all! . If you have grandparents of any denomination - ask them or an ancient neighbor - to TRY to explain it to you. Isabella In a message dated 2/11/2008 2:23:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, bev@denmarkwa.com.au writes: In message <021120082202.11120.47B0C6050006E6F300002B702205884484970A0 40401080604@comcast.net> ljholley@comcast.net (Linda Holley) wrote: Don't know if you saw Billy Connolly's tour of Ireland but he said that there was a brick wall in the ground dividing the protestants and catholics in the cemetery in Belfast. As he said 'What did they think they were going to do? And Chrisianity was the common religion! Bev > I know this may sound extremely dumb on my part but what vast > differences were there in the two religions that would have made > someone think they needed to have a second ceremony? > Linda > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "Cliff. Johnston" <moments-in-time@comcast.net> >> It must have been very difficult for the Presbyterians as we have oral >> family history that tells of our Johnston family being forced to become C of >> I in Ireland, but when it came to baptisms, marriages, etc. they actually >> went back to Scotland to have a second and Presbyterian ceremony performed. >> When I first came across this story I was amazed and somewhat in disbelief; >> however, when the story came from a distant second and a third source it >> made a believer out of me. >> >> Cliff. Johnston >> "May the best you've ever seen, >> Be the worst you'll ever see;" >> from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "B Marmion" <info@marmionfamilytree.com> >> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 1:15 PM >> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] DRUMORE Townshpi, Lancaster Co.,PA is based on >> DROMORE, COUNTY DOWN, NIR >> >> >>> THANK YOU HUGH! >>> this marriage info answers quite alot of questions...did this practice >>> continue into the early 1800's as well? >>> >>> Hugh Macartney <hhmacartney@shaw.ca> wrote: >>> There are a lot of pitfalls in Irish names which were anglicised to a >>> great >>> extent. Dromore/Drumore/Drimore meant great ridge in Irish and there are >>> about 24000 townland, towns and villages in Ireland which begin with >>> variatins of drom, etc. There is the town of Dromore which is between >>> Banbridge and Lisburn but also a townland in Warrenpoint with the same >>> name. >>> In the 18th.C there were large waves of emigration either due to crop >>> failures, rack rents or to heavy taxes placed by England on Irish woollen >>> goods. Another major factor was the Test Act which was used to place loyal >>> Presbyterian on the same level of disability with the Roman Catholics. >>> Presbyterian ministers were turned out of their pulpits or threatened. >>> Since >>> they no longer had official standing marriages they performed were not >>> legal. Presbyterians had to choose between their office or their >>> conscience. >>> Presbyterian disenters could not teach school. The children of all >>> Protestants not married in the Established Church were regarded as >>> bastards >>> and many Presbyterians were even prosecuted in the bishops' courts as >>> fornicators for cohabiting with their own wives. This religious >>> persecution >>> was for many the last straw and people were easily persuaded to go to >>> America. In 1717 crops were ruined by drought for the fourth year in a row >>> and ships were charted, groups were organised and property sold. There >>> were >>> more waves of emigration in 1717-18, 1725-9, 1740-41, 1754-55 and 1771-75 >>> from the North of Ireland. The result of this was that when the American >>> Revolution began there were no more ardent people wishing to throw off >>> England's yoke than the Ulster-Scot Presbyterians and these tough, hardy >>> men >>> formed at least a third of George Washington's army. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mike Boyd" >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:17 PM >>> Subject: [NIR-DOWN] DRUMORE Townshpi, Lancaster Co., PA is based on >>> DROMORE,COUNTY DOWN, NIR >>> >>> >>>>>From the Boyd list there was this little bit of information >>>> >>>> "Since they misspelled the name you may have missed this, but did you >>>> know >>>> that DRUMORE Township is based on DROMORE, COUNTY DOWN, NIR ?? >>>> >>>> Drumore Township is an original township in 1729. >>>> >>>> What's got Boyd implications is that you have three Donegal townships >>>> (Raphoe, Donegal, Bart); one Derry township (Colerain); and one Down >>>> township >>>> (Dromore). >>>> >>>> I wonder who brought over the County Down place name. Do we have a Boyd >>>> family near there in Ireland?" >>>> >>>> However, in 1729 Drumore would have been in Chester County, PA in eastern >>>> PA >>>> on the border with Maryland. >>>> >>>> Does anyone on this list know of this migration in 1729 of people from >>>> Dromore? >>>> >>>> Save this weblink (especially if you deal with Lancaster County) and you >>>> have my source: >>>> _http://www.lancasterhistory.org/research/databases/townshipmap.html_ >>>> (http://www.lancasterhistory.org/research/databases/townshipmap.html) >>>> >>>> >>>> Mike Boyd >>>> Brisbane >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> Brigitte >>> brigitte@marmionfamilytree.com >>> www.marmionfamilytree.com >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Bev McGuinness, Cinnamon Coloureds Farmstay, RMB 1017 DENMARK WA 6333 Tel: +61 8 9848 1781 Fax: +61 8 9848 1231 Web: http://www.denmarkwa.com.au/cc/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. 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Sorry to disagree. Quite often it helps to keep the thread going if you have deleted the original and didn't realize there really was a pertinent connection with your own interests. In a message dated 2/10/2008 8:18:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, gmt.bc@shaw.ca writes: Sorry to ask, but could those responding please not copy every message attached each time. It creates a huge email with one and two line messages with repetitious messages back and forth, over and over. Thanks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565)

Thanks to all who gave me advice on my upcoming trip to Ireland in May. I'll post to the list with how I did when I return. I am very excited to go. There are two great uncles of mine who I will be meeting for the first time that are both in failing health so I am particularly looking forward to meeting them and listening to their stories. Lester C Griel III BS, RN Graduate Assistant, School of Nursing 307G Health and Human Development East 814-867-0541 Family Nurse Practitioner Student, The Pennsylvania State University Firefighter, Alpha Fire Company: online at www.alphafire.com Secretary, The Firemans Relief Association of State College, Pennsylvania Genealogist: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=lgriel3 Researching the Griel, Hill, Eastep, Kinsey, Donald, Franke, Espenshade and Showalter surnames. 814-883-6552 Reply to: lgriel@comcast.net "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." – Theodore Seuss Giesel Security is our nearness to God, not our distance from danger. -Kenneth R. Hendre   ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._    (`6_ 6  )   `-.  (     ).`-.__.`)     (_Y_.)'  ._   )  `._ `. ``-..-'         _..`--'_..-_/  /--'_.' ,'               (il),-''  (li),'  ((!.-'   We are........ Penn State!

Unsubscribe I need to take a break, thank you all for your help.? Linda -----Original Message----- From: Kevin McKinney <kmckinney1@shaw.ca> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:36 pm Subject: [NIR-DOWN] R.C. clergy archives My aunt, Mary "Mini" McKinney (1892-1975) reportedly (1) "worked for Lafferty?" ; then (2) she worked as a housekeeper for Father McNab, a priest in the City of Belfast. With such limited information, how would I locate archival information on Lafferty and Father McNab? Any related suggestions would be gratefully appreciated. Thanks . Kevin McKinney ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

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It must have been very difficult for the Presbyterians as we have oral family history that tells of our Johnston family being forced to become C of I in Ireland, but when it came to baptisms, marriages, etc. they actually went back to Scotland to have a second and Presbyterian ceremony performed. When I first came across this story I was amazed and somewhat in disbelief; however, when the story came from a distant second and a third source it made a believer out of me. Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "B Marmion" <info@marmionfamilytree.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] DRUMORE Townshpi, Lancaster Co.,PA is based on DROMORE, COUNTY DOWN, NIR > THANK YOU HUGH! > this marriage info answers quite alot of questions...did this practice > continue into the early 1800's as well? > > Hugh Macartney <hhmacartney@shaw.ca> wrote: > There are a lot of pitfalls in Irish names which were anglicised to a > great > extent. Dromore/Drumore/Drimore meant great ridge in Irish and there are > about 24000 townland, towns and villages in Ireland which begin with > variatins of drom, etc. There is the town of Dromore which is between > Banbridge and Lisburn but also a townland in Warrenpoint with the same > name. > In the 18th.C there were large waves of emigration either due to crop > failures, rack rents or to heavy taxes placed by England on Irish woollen > goods. Another major factor was the Test Act which was used to place loyal > Presbyterian on the same level of disability with the Roman Catholics. > Presbyterian ministers were turned out of their pulpits or threatened. > Since > they no longer had official standing marriages they performed were not > legal. Presbyterians had to choose between their office or their > conscience. > Presbyterian disenters could not teach school. The children of all > Protestants not married in the Established Church were regarded as > bastards > and many Presbyterians were even prosecuted in the bishops' courts as > fornicators for cohabiting with their own wives. This religious > persecution > was for many the last straw and people were easily persuaded to go to > America. In 1717 crops were ruined by drought for the fourth year in a row > and ships were charted, groups were organised and property sold. There > were > more waves of emigration in 1717-18, 1725-9, 1740-41, 1754-55 and 1771-75 > from the North of Ireland. The result of this was that when the American > Revolution began there were no more ardent people wishing to throw off > England's yoke than the Ulster-Scot Presbyterians and these tough, hardy > men > formed at least a third of George Washington's army. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Boyd" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:17 PM > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] DRUMORE Townshpi, Lancaster Co., PA is based on > DROMORE,COUNTY DOWN, NIR > > >> >From the Boyd list there was this little bit of information >> >> "Since they misspelled the name you may have missed this, but did you >> know >> that DRUMORE Township is based on DROMORE, COUNTY DOWN, NIR ?? >> >> Drumore Township is an original township in 1729. >> >> What's got Boyd implications is that you have three Donegal townships >> (Raphoe, Donegal, Bart); one Derry township (Colerain); and one Down >> township >> (Dromore). >> >> I wonder who brought over the County Down place name. Do we have a Boyd >> family near there in Ireland?" >> >> However, in 1729 Drumore would have been in Chester County, PA in eastern >> PA >> on the border with Maryland. >> >> Does anyone on this list know of this migration in 1729 of people from >> Dromore? >> >> Save this weblink (especially if you deal with Lancaster County) and you >> have my source: >> _http://www.lancasterhistory.org/research/databases/townshipmap.html_ >> (http://www.lancasterhistory.org/research/databases/townshipmap.html) >> >> >> Mike Boyd >> Brisbane >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Brigitte > brigitte@marmionfamilytree.com > www.marmionfamilytree.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My aunt, Mary "Mini" McKinney (1892-1975) reportedly (1) "worked for Lafferty?" ; then (2) she worked as a housekeeper for Father McNab, a priest in the City of Belfast. With such limited information, how would I locate archival information on Lafferty and Father McNab? Any related suggestions would be gratefully appreciated. Thanks . Kevin McKinney

-------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Gloria <gmt.bc@shaw.ca> > Sorry to ask, but could those responding please not copy every message > attached each time. > It creates a huge email with one and two line messages with repetitious > messages back and forth, over and over. > Thanks > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

I have updated the 1830 Tithe Applotment Index for Kilkeel parish,also the County Down births section of my website, and the best of luck in your research. Raymond http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com

Have a look at the Dromore section of my website Mike, there is a chapter on Drumore Pennsylvania, Raymond http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com

>From the Boyd list there was this little bit of information "Since they misspelled the name you may have missed this, but did you know that DRUMORE Township is based on DROMORE, COUNTY DOWN, NIR ?? Drumore Township is an original township in 1729. What's got Boyd implications is that you have three Donegal townships (Raphoe, Donegal, Bart); one Derry township (Colerain); and one Down township (Dromore). I wonder who brought over the County Down place name. Do we have a Boyd family near there in Ireland?" However, in 1729 Drumore would have been in Chester County, PA in eastern PA on the border with Maryland. Does anyone on this list know of this migration in 1729 of people from Dromore? Save this weblink (especially if you deal with Lancaster County) and you have my source: _http://www.lancasterhistory.org/research/databases/townshipmap.html_ (http://www.lancasterhistory.org/research/databases/townshipmap.html) Mike Boyd Brisbane

THANK YOU HUGH! this marriage info answers quite alot of questions...did this practice continue into the early 1800's as well? Hugh Macartney <hhmacartney@shaw.ca> wrote: There are a lot of pitfalls in Irish names which were anglicised to a great extent. Dromore/Drumore/Drimore meant great ridge in Irish and there are about 24000 townland, towns and villages in Ireland which begin with variatins of drom, etc. There is the town of Dromore which is between Banbridge and Lisburn but also a townland in Warrenpoint with the same name. In the 18th.C there were large waves of emigration either due to crop failures, rack rents or to heavy taxes placed by England on Irish woollen goods. Another major factor was the Test Act which was used to place loyal Presbyterian on the same level of disability with the Roman Catholics. Presbyterian ministers were turned out of their pulpits or threatened. Since they no longer had official standing marriages they performed were not legal. Presbyterians had to choose between their office or their conscience. Presbyterian disenters could not teach school. The children of all Protestants not married in the Established Church were regarded as bastards and many Presbyterians were even prosecuted in the bishops' courts as fornicators for cohabiting with their own wives. This religious persecution was for many the last straw and people were easily persuaded to go to America. In 1717 crops were ruined by drought for the fourth year in a row and ships were charted, groups were organised and property sold. There were more waves of emigration in 1717-18, 1725-9, 1740-41, 1754-55 and 1771-75 from the North of Ireland. The result of this was that when the American Revolution began there were no more ardent people wishing to throw off England's yoke than the Ulster-Scot Presbyterians and these tough, hardy men formed at least a third of George Washington's army. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Boyd" To: Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:17 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] DRUMORE Townshpi, Lancaster Co., PA is based on DROMORE,COUNTY DOWN, NIR > >From the Boyd list there was this little bit of information > > "Since they misspelled the name you may have missed this, but did you know > that DRUMORE Township is based on DROMORE, COUNTY DOWN, NIR ?? > > Drumore Township is an original township in 1729. > > What's got Boyd implications is that you have three Donegal townships > (Raphoe, Donegal, Bart); one Derry township (Colerain); and one Down > township > (Dromore). > > I wonder who brought over the County Down place name. Do we have a Boyd > family near there in Ireland?" > > However, in 1729 Drumore would have been in Chester County, PA in eastern > PA > on the border with Maryland. > > Does anyone on this list know of this migration in 1729 of people from > Dromore? > > Save this weblink (especially if you deal with Lancaster County) and you > have my source: > _http://www.lancasterhistory.org/research/databases/townshipmap.html_ > (http://www.lancasterhistory.org/research/databases/townshipmap.html) > > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Brigitte brigitte@marmionfamilytree.com www.marmionfamilytree.com

Lester Youn will need to go to PRONI (66 Balmoral Street) - it is in the south area of Belfast access by train or bus. You will need to look at both the Card Index and the online Index. (Online you should look at now, but that does not have as much items as the old card index. So when you arrive you will need to have an number of items to place orders for. They take more than an hour to get. Thursday night it stays open until 8.45 pm I think. So allow 2 or 3 days for PRONI alone. (Email is proni@dcalni.gov.uk) Then you have Linenhall Library on the north side of the City Square I assume that you will also need to check out the General Register Office (sorry do not have an address) City Hall may also be able to give you Cemetery records You may also know which church they went to as well for any records there. There should be an family history group in Belfast that you try to find before you go. These are some of the places you need to go to. Public transport is quite OK. Mostly buses but you can use the Trains as well. There is an tourist Office opposite the City Hall. If you can find them on the web, you should make you booking soon as if you are going during the summer. Last September I stayed at a B&B hotel near Queens University for about 45 pound a night but you may wish to say out of the city along one of the three main railway lines, to Bangor, Lisburn or Carrickfergus which should be cheaper but you lose time travelling - depending on the distance you are out. Mike Boyd Brisbane PS write out your family tree and list the things you wish to find or are looking for. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lester C Griel III" <lcg112@gmail.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 8:50 AM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Going to Ireland Hello all, My mother surprised me the other day with an invitation to accompany her to Ireland (her father was born in Belfast). Can anyone suggest possibilities for research while I am in Belfast. Thanks in advance for any assistance. Lester Lester C Griel III BS, RN

Hi Kathy, Thanks for giving us the update. 19000 pages!!! I hope you are rewarded at the end of it - if it doesn't become the end of you!! I thought that there was a Joan Rebecca Lattie, right age, who lived near you in San Diego or San Fran., can't quite remember.... Keep digging, I hope it pays off eventually. Please keep us posted. Wendy

Wendy, I had followed the event and since I had not heard anymore thought she might have dropped the search. Thanks for the update. Linda -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Robt & Wendy Stevenson" <stevensons@odyssey.on.ca> > Linda, > Just to clarify, I don't know if Kathy did find her, but had a good lead. > Kathy touched our hearts before Christmas, and I just wanted to remind her > that we care! > Wendy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Holley" <ljholley@comcast.net> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 6:44 PM > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Going to Ireland > > > > My Goodness! How did I miss this event. Someone, please let me know the > > latest details and how Kathy found her. > > > > Linda > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > From: "Robt & Wendy Stevenson" <stevensons@odyssey.on.ca> > >> Hi Kathy, > >> Some of us are patiently awaiting news of your contact with your > >> husband's > >> birth mother.......how did it go? > >> Wendy > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: <KPagape@aol.com> > >> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 6:02 PM > >> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Going to Ireland > >> > >> > >> > Congratulations! How lucky are you? > >> > I would suggest PRONI (Public Records of Northern Ireland) > >> > List, please correct me if I'm wrong on that! > >> > I could kick myself for not getting over there when I was in Belfast in > >> > June. Next time though, I'm going to spend several days there. I'm > >> > told > >> > that > >> > you should have all your ducks in a row before you go. Make sure you > >> > know > >> > exactly what you want to look up as to not waste any precious time > >> > while > >> > you are > >> > there. > >> > Have fun! Northern Ireland is the most incredible place I've ever > >> > been! > >> > > >> > Love, > >> > Kathy > >> > > >> > > >> > In a message dated 2/10/2008 2:51:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > >> > lcg112@gmail.com writes: > >> > > >> > Hello all, > >> > My mother surprised me the other day with an invitation to accompany > >> > her > >> > to > >> > Ireland (her father was born in Belfast). Can anyone suggest > >> > possibilities > >> > for research while I am in Belfast. Thanks in advance for any > >> > assistance. > >> > Lester > >> > > >> > Lester C Griel III BS, RN > >> > Graduate Assistant, School of Nursing > >> > 307G Health and Human Development East > >> > 814-867-0541 > >> > Family Nurse Practitioner Student, The Pennsylvania State University > >> > Firefighter, Alpha Fire Company: online at www.alphafire.com > >> > Secretary, The Firemans Relief Association of State College, > >> > Pennsylvania > >> > Genealogist: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=lgriel3 > >> > Researching the Griel, Hill, Eastep, Kinsey, Donald, Franke, > >> > Espenshade > >> > and Showalter surnames. > >> > 814-883-6552 > >> > Reply to: lgriel@comcast.net > >> > "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't > >> > matter > >> > and those who matter don't mind." > >> > â?" Theodore Seuss Giesel > >> > Security is our nearness to God, not our distance from > >> > danger. -Kenneth > >> > R. > >> > Hendre > >> > > >> > ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ > >> > (`6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) > >> > (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' > >> > _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' > >> > (il),-'' (li),' ((!.-' > >> > > >> > We are........ > >> > Penn State! > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com > >> > [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] > >> > On Behalf Of Fiona Jones > >> > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 8:19 PM > >> > To: nir-down@rootsweb.com > >> > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] McVeigh/McVea/McVeagh > >> > > >> > Hi All. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > I have just completed some research on the name McVeigh in the Kilkeel > >> > area. > >> > If anyone is researching this name drop me an email and I'll see if I > >> > have > >> > anything that will help. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Fiona. > >> > > >> > ====== > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > IGP Co. 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I don't know what happened to my earlier message but I'll try again. How did I miss this event! Please, someone fill me in on the latest details. How did Kathy find her? Linda -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Robt & Wendy Stevenson" <stevensons@odyssey.on.ca> > Hi Kathy, > Some of us are patiently awaiting news of your contact with your husband's > birth mother.......how did it go? > Wendy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <KPagape@aol.com> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 6:02 PM > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Going to Ireland > > > > Congratulations! How lucky are you? > > I would suggest PRONI (Public Records of Northern Ireland) > > List, please correct me if I'm wrong on that! > > I could kick myself for not getting over there when I was in Belfast in > > June. Next time though, I'm going to spend several days there. I'm told > > that > > you should have all your ducks in a row before you go. Make sure you > > know > > exactly what you want to look up as to not waste any precious time while > > you are > > there. > > Have fun! Northern Ireland is the most incredible place I've ever been! > > > > Love, > > Kathy > > > > > > In a message dated 2/10/2008 2:51:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > lcg112@gmail.com writes: > > > > Hello all, > > My mother surprised me the other day with an invitation to accompany her > > to > > Ireland (her father was born in Belfast). Can anyone suggest > > possibilities > > for research while I am in Belfast. Thanks in advance for any assistance. > > Lester > > > > Lester C Griel III BS, RN > > Graduate Assistant, School of Nursing > > 307G Health and Human Development East > > 814-867-0541 > > Family Nurse Practitioner Student, The Pennsylvania State University > > Firefighter, Alpha Fire Company: online at www.alphafire.com > > Secretary, The Firemans Relief Association of State College, Pennsylvania > > Genealogist: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=lgriel3 > > Researching the Griel, Hill, Eastep, Kinsey, Donald, Franke, Espenshade > > and Showalter surnames. > > 814-883-6552 > > Reply to: lgriel@comcast.net > > "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't > > matter > > and those who matter don't mind." > > – Theodore Seuss Giesel > > Security is our nearness to God, not our distance from danger. -Kenneth > > R. > > Hendre > > > > ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ > > (`6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) > > (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' > > _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' > > (il),-'' (li),' ((!.-' > > > > We are........ > > Penn State! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of Fiona Jones > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 8:19 PM > > To: nir-down@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] McVeigh/McVea/McVeagh > > > > Hi All. > > > > > > > > I have just completed some research on the name McVeigh in the Kilkeel > > area. > > If anyone is researching this name drop me an email and I'll see if I > > have > > anything that will help. > > > > > > > > Fiona. > > > > ====== > > > > > > > > IGP Co. Down Coordinator > > > > <http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/index.htm> > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/index.htm > > > > Author of Miners of Mourne > > > > <http://www.fipacian.com/MinersofMourne.htm> > > http://www.fipacian.com/MinersofMourne.htm > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the > > body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300000002 > 5 > > 48) > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Goodness! How did I miss this event. Someone, please let me know the latest details and how Kathy found her. Linda -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Robt & Wendy Stevenson" <stevensons@odyssey.on.ca> > Hi Kathy, > Some of us are patiently awaiting news of your contact with your husband's > birth mother.......how did it go? > Wendy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <KPagape@aol.com> > To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 6:02 PM > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Going to Ireland > > > > Congratulations! How lucky are you? > > I would suggest PRONI (Public Records of Northern Ireland) > > List, please correct me if I'm wrong on that! > > I could kick myself for not getting over there when I was in Belfast in > > June. Next time though, I'm going to spend several days there. I'm told > > that > > you should have all your ducks in a row before you go. Make sure you > > know > > exactly what you want to look up as to not waste any precious time while > > you are > > there. > > Have fun! Northern Ireland is the most incredible place I've ever been! > > > > Love, > > Kathy > > > > > > In a message dated 2/10/2008 2:51:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > lcg112@gmail.com writes: > > > > Hello all, > > My mother surprised me the other day with an invitation to accompany her > > to > > Ireland (her father was born in Belfast). Can anyone suggest > > possibilities > > for research while I am in Belfast. Thanks in advance for any assistance. > > Lester > > > > Lester C Griel III BS, RN > > Graduate Assistant, School of Nursing > > 307G Health and Human Development East > > 814-867-0541 > > Family Nurse Practitioner Student, The Pennsylvania State University > > Firefighter, Alpha Fire Company: online at www.alphafire.com > > Secretary, The Firemans Relief Association of State College, Pennsylvania > > Genealogist: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=lgriel3 > > Researching the Griel, Hill, Eastep, Kinsey, Donald, Franke, Espenshade > > and Showalter surnames. > > 814-883-6552 > > Reply to: lgriel@comcast.net > > "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't > > matter > > and those who matter don't mind." > > – Theodore Seuss Giesel > > Security is our nearness to God, not our distance from danger. -Kenneth > > R. > > Hendre > > > > ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ > > (`6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) > > (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' > > _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' > > (il),-'' (li),' ((!.-' > > > > We are........ > > Penn State! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of Fiona Jones > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 8:19 PM > > To: nir-down@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] McVeigh/McVea/McVeagh > > > > Hi All. > > > > > > > > I have just completed some research on the name McVeigh in the Kilkeel > > area. > > If anyone is researching this name drop me an email and I'll see if I > > have > > anything that will help. > > > > > > > > Fiona. > > > > ====== > > > > > > > > IGP Co. Down Coordinator > > > > <http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/index.htm> > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/index.htm > > > > Author of Miners of Mourne > > > > <http://www.fipacian.com/MinersofMourne.htm> > > http://www.fipacian.com/MinersofMourne.htm > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the > > body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300000002 > 5 > > 48) > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry to ask, but could those responding please not copy every message attached each time. It creates a huge email with one and two line messages with repetitious messages back and forth, over and over. Thanks