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    1. Re: [NIR-DOWN] possible resource...
    2. Bob Kissel
    3. Did you ever see this? http://www.ballynagarrick.net/ulsterancestors/Killevy.htm ----- Original Message ---- From: B Marmion <info@marmionfamilytree.com> To: NIR-DOWN@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:55:52 AM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] possible resource... another helpful website: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mtoll/ireland.htm I just ran across it, sorry if this is a repeat ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/15/2008 05:00:58
    1. Re: [NIR-DOWN] General Registrar Office Northern Ireland
    2. MICHAEL ARMSTRONG
    3. David Good luck with your searches. I stand corrected about photocopying at GRONI. I was confusing the arrangements with PRONI where you can now get a photocopy off the microfilms - using a special reader - for less than £1 each - my apologies for misleading you on that - 'tis an age thing perhaps!! Mike dmmon.messageboards@ntlworld.com wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:06:35 +0000 (GMT), you wrote: snip] > As far as how many you will see in 5 hours will depend on how quickly you identify which registers you want from the index. With 2 of you working for 2 days I suppose you might see 30 registers - how many do you think you'll need? Well, just looking at the descendants who remained in NI from one set of my great grandparents there are over 50 names that need a birth, or a death or a marriage or a combination of up to all looking for. For the other set of great grandparents there are only a few because I don't know of any descendants remaining there. I was also hoping to take the lines a bit further back than I currently have. In addition one of them was a Brontë so I have about another 50 names of them in the Brontë line to look at as well. >I hope this is of some help. > Mike > PS - why don't you email them and ask? I

    02/15/2008 03:25:57
    1. Re: [NIR-DOWN] General Registrar Office Northern Ireland
    2. eddie kelso
    3. David, Just to add to what is given below - your first port of call at GRONI is a receptionist, who will take your fee & will ask you to wait. A member of staff will bring you to the search room in the 1st floor, where you will be shown how to use the computer to access BMD indexes. GRONI do not hold originals of Marriage Registrations - these are held locally in the relevant registration office, which is in the office building within one of the local Councils (there are currently 26 councils in Northern Ireland). As a result, the computerised record of marriages is different from those for births & deaths. You can search by surname from 1845 up to c. 2001 - you will get a list giving: Date of marriage Names of Husband & Wife Where married (usually a church - you can see most church records, including marriage registrations, in PRONI's microfilms) Searching births & deaths by surname takes a lot longer, so give yourself plenty of time - these are PDF documents for each year from 1864. To see the registration, you will be given an A4 form to complete & you copy surname, first name & Vol. & Page No. unto the sheet. If you give the sheet to one of the staff, they will bring you the relevant register & will read it out to you, giving you time to write down the details. The 1st 4 of these are free, if you want any more you have to pay £2.50 each. GRONI only supply certified copies of registrations, whereas the GRO in Roscommon in the Republic of Ireland supply photocopies of registration entries for family history research purposes. I would recommend that if you have time you should visit the LDS Family History Centre, Holywood Road, Belfast. It is open to the public from 9.30am - 4pm Wed & Thur, & 9.30am - 1.30pm Sat. They have microfilms of the BMD indexes for Ireland up to 1959, plus copies of birth regs. 1864 - 1880 & 1900 -1913, marriage regs. 1845 - 1870 & death regs 1864 - 1870 & (NI only) 1922 - 1931. They may allow you to take digital photos - just ask! The FHS has the facility where you can order photocopies of registrations from GRO in Ireland - ask for a form. Each p/copy costs £4 & they will be posted to your home address - I think postage is free, but ask just in case! Hope this is useful Eddie (Note to Administrator - I had to use email below as I wanted to expand on info already given - thanks!) MICHAEL ARMSTRONG <mikejarm@btinternet.com> wrote: David In reply - as best as I can:- If you request a register - the staff member will bring it and shows you that entry only. Digital cameras are NOT permitted. If you request several registers - they are all brought at the same time. I requested 4 registers and went for lunch - they were all there when I came back. I imagine that if you require 10 registers.for example, they will bring them all at the same time. I can not remember the exact cost of a photocopy - a friend of mine says it is 99 pence- he is going in the next few days and is going to ask. I will try and post the answer. It think the district registry is given in the index. I don't know how much District Offices charge - and there is postage as well. As far as how many you will see in 5 hours will depend on how quickly you identify which registers you want from the index. With 2 of you working for 2 days I suppose you might see 30 registers - how many do you think you'll need? I hope this is of some help. Mike PS - why don't you email them and ask? dmmon.messageboards@ntlworld.com wrote: On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:05:21 +0000 (GMT), you wrote: >To all who may be interested in visiting the GRONI. > The address and phone number as well as website are as in Ella Patterson's recent email . > Having recently visited the office - a few tips:- > Do not go without a previous appointment - they are quite often booked up. Our places are booked. > Only one person is permitted to be at a computer station at a time - there are about > 6 or 7 stations only. For our 3 days we have 2 of them. > The cost per session is £10 sterling and includes a request for 4 searches in a register to see the appropriate entry (brought by and shown to you by a member of staff). Does the staff member stands beside you while you write down what information from the registration that you want? How long does it usually take for the registration to be brought to you? Do they bring one at a time? For example, how many registrations are you likely to see in a 5 hour period? Is the use of a digital camera allowed? >A photocopy of the certificate is about £2.50 (I think) What kind of paper/machine are they using to justify that cost? > If you want to see more than 4 entries - they are £2.50 extra each. Do they take credit cards? > The available information is indexes only which give name - usually age - place and Volume and page number for the appropriate register. I understand that with this information one can get the registration from the local Registry Office. Do the indexes tell you what Registry Office hold the record? I ask this because we have a LOT to look up. I was wondering if, after seeing the first 4 records it might be better to just get the details from the indexes as necessary, then later when back home, apply for an extract of the registrations from the local Registry office. I believe these also cost £2.50. David ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Eddie --------------------------------- Sent from Yahoo! &#45; a smarter inbox.

    02/15/2008 01:58:32
    1. [NIR-DOWN] possible resource...
    2. B Marmion
    3. another helpful website: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mtoll/ireland.htm I just ran across it, sorry if this is a repeat

    02/15/2008 01:55:52
    1. Re: [NIR-DOWN] General Registrar Office Northern Ireland
    2. On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:06:35 +0000 (GMT), you wrote: snip] > As far as how many you will see in 5 hours will depend on how quickly you identify which registers you want from the index. With 2 of you working for 2 days I suppose you might see 30 registers - how many do you think you'll need? Well, just looking at the descendants who remained in NI from one set of my great grandparents there are over 50 names that need a birth, or a death or a marriage or a combination of up to all looking for. For the other set of great grandparents there are only a few because I don't know of any descendants remaining there. I was also hoping to take the lines a bit further back than I currently have. In addition one of them was a Brontë so I have about another 50 names of them in the Brontë line to look at as well. >I hope this is of some help. > Mike > PS - why don't you email them and ask? I did email them once before about some of the questions that I have been asking but felt that I didn't get them answered very well. Perhaps I wasn't specific enough. I am sure that their web site has been written by someone who knows all about it but I bet they have never tested it out with people who are novices & then checked their understanding of the services the GRONI offer. The very same applies to the National Archives, Kew. Try following the step by step instructions in some of their How to .... leaflets & you get nowhere. The proof of this is the number of visitors you see seeking assistance while actually holding the How to ... leaflet in their hand and having to ask questions about it. When I was there earlier this week, in the light of my experience, I was tempted to offer to rewrite the one that I was trying to follow. David

    02/14/2008 02:11:29
    1. Re: [NIR-DOWN] General Registrar Office Northern Ireland
    2. MICHAEL ARMSTRONG
    3. David In reply - as best as I can:- If you request a register - the staff member will bring it and shows you that entry only. Digital cameras are NOT permitted. If you request several registers - they are all brought at the same time. I requested 4 registers and went for lunch - they were all there when I came back. I imagine that if you require 10 registers.for example, they will bring them all at the same time. I can not remember the exact cost of a photocopy - a friend of mine says it is 99 pence- he is going in the next few days and is going to ask. I will try and post the answer. It think the district registry is given in the index. I don't know how much District Offices charge - and there is postage as well. As far as how many you will see in 5 hours will depend on how quickly you identify which registers you want from the index. With 2 of you working for 2 days I suppose you might see 30 registers - how many do you think you'll need? I hope this is of some help. Mike PS - why don't you email them and ask? dmmon.messageboards@ntlworld.com wrote: On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:05:21 +0000 (GMT), you wrote: >To all who may be interested in visiting the GRONI. > The address and phone number as well as website are as in Ella Patterson's recent email . > Having recently visited the office - a few tips:- > Do not go without a previous appointment - they are quite often booked up. Our places are booked. > Only one person is permitted to be at a computer station at a time - there are about > 6 or 7 stations only. For our 3 days we have 2 of them. > The cost per session is £10 sterling and includes a request for 4 searches in a register to see the appropriate entry (brought by and shown to you by a member of staff). Does the staff member stands beside you while you write down what information from the registration that you want? How long does it usually take for the registration to be brought to you? Do they bring one at a time? For example, how many registrations are you likely to see in a 5 hour period? Is the use of a digital camera allowed? >A photocopy of the certificate is about £2.50 (I think) What kind of paper/machine are they using to justify that cost? > If you want to see more than 4 entries - they are £2.50 extra each. Do they take credit cards? > The available information is indexes only which give name - usually age - place and Volume and page number for the appropriate register. I understand that with this information one can get the registration from the local Registry Office. Do the indexes tell you what Registry Office hold the record? I ask this because we have a LOT to look up. I was wondering if, after seeing the first 4 records it might be better to just get the details from the indexes as necessary, then later when back home, apply for an extract of the registrations from the local Registry office. I believe these also cost £2.50. David ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/14/2008 01:06:35
    1. Re: [NIR-DOWN] County Down OPR's
    2. Fiona Jones
    3. Gail - you need to be more specific about which County Down Old Parish Records you need. Fiona. ======= IGP Co. Down Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/index.htm Author of Miners of Mourne http://www.fipacian.com/MinersofMourne.htm -----Original Message----- From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gail Wheeler Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 6:45 PM To: nir-down@rootsweb.com Subject: [NIR-DOWN] County Down OPR's Is there anyone on the County Down list who has access to the County Down Old Parish Records and could do a lookup for me please. Thank you Gail ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/14/2008 11:49:44
    1. Re: [NIR-DOWN] General Registrar Office Northern Ireland
    2. On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:05:21 +0000 (GMT), you wrote: >To all who may be interested in visiting the GRONI. > The address and phone number as well as website are as in Ella Patterson's recent email . > Having recently visited the office - a few tips:- > Do not go without a previous appointment - they are quite often booked up. Our places are booked. > Only one person is permitted to be at a computer station at a time - there are about > 6 or 7 stations only. For our 3 days we have 2 of them. > The cost per session is £10 sterling and includes a request for 4 searches in a register to see the appropriate entry (brought by and shown to you by a member of staff). Does the staff member stands beside you while you write down what information from the registration that you want? How long does it usually take for the registration to be brought to you? Do they bring one at a time? For example, how many registrations are you likely to see in a 5 hour period? Is the use of a digital camera allowed? >A photocopy of the certificate is about £2.50 (I think) What kind of paper/machine are they using to justify that cost? > If you want to see more than 4 entries - they are £2.50 extra each. Do they take credit cards? > The available information is indexes only which give name - usually age - place and Volume and page number for the appropriate register. I understand that with this information one can get the registration from the local Registry Office. Do the indexes tell you what Registry Office hold the record? I ask this because we have a LOT to look up. I was wondering if, after seeing the first 4 records it might be better to just get the details from the indexes as necessary, then later when back home, apply for an extract of the registrations from the local Registry office. I believe these also cost £2.50. David

    02/14/2008 10:27:44
    1. Re: [NIR-DOWN] County Down OPR's
    2. Gail Wheeler
    3. Fiona Jones wrote: > Gail - you need to be more specific about which County > Down Old Parish Records you need. > > Fiona. > ======= > > IGP Co. Down Coordinator > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/index.htm > > Author of Miners of Mourne > > http://www.fipacian.com/MinersofMourne.htm > > -----Original Message----- > From: nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-down-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Gail Wheeler > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 6:45 PM > To: nir-down@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] County Down OPR's > > Is there anyone on the County Down list who has access to the County > Down Old Parish Records and could do a lookup for me please. > > Thank you > Gail > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > I'm sorry, I guess I was in too much of a rush. I am looking for a birth that was in 1829. I believe it may have been in Downpatrick but I am not sure of that. I have very little information at all. Thank yu Gail

    02/14/2008 08:53:15
    1. [NIR-DOWN] County Down OPR's
    2. Gail Wheeler
    3. Is there anyone on the County Down list who has access to the County Down Old Parish Records and could do a lookup for me please. Thank you Gail

    02/14/2008 08:44:33
    1. Re: [NIR-DOWN] General Registrar Office Northern Ireland
    2. David As far as I am aware the General Register Office in Belfast does NOT do photocopies - I asked the last time I was there and they said quite diffinitely NO! Sheila

    02/14/2008 08:22:14
    1. Re: [NIR-DOWN] R.C. clergy archives
    2. Sarah Martin
    3. Just a thought, it would be much easier to trace a Catholic priest than an ordinary citizen. The Catholic church should be able to tell you who Father McNab was and where he was serving in Belfast as a Priest. Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin McKinney" <kmckinney1@shaw.ca> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:36 AM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] R.C. clergy archives > My aunt, Mary "Mini" McKinney (1892-1975) reportedly (1) "worked for > Lafferty?" ; then (2) she worked as a housekeeper for Father McNab, a > priest in the City of Belfast. > With such limited information, how would I locate archival > information on Lafferty and Father McNab? > Any related suggestions would be gratefully appreciated. Thanks . > Kevin McKinney > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    02/14/2008 07:57:09
    1. Re: [NIR-DOWN] Ancestry.com census images
    2. MICHAEL BURNS
    3. Thanks everyone for all the good tips on printing off census returns fron ancestry.com MICHAEL BURNS <aardvarkgs@btinternet.com> wrote: Hi Does anyone know how to print ancestry.com's copies of English census returns, enlarging the text (most importantly) loosing the thick [ink-wasting border]? Michael Burns researching Boden/Bodan/Bowden /etc and Tear/Teer from Loughinisland and Ardglass Elaine J wrote: Jane I just found out the same thing about a gggg grandfather. I went googling to get more information. Your question about a picture, thought this might help. http://www.grandorangelodge.co.uk/parades/orangeman_on_parade.html E l a i n e J. T h e O t h e r E l a i n e S u m n e r, W as h i n g t o n U S A Jane Remly wrote: > Dear Wendy; > I too, have a relative , a ggf, who was a "staunch Orangeman in Ireland. > I am interested in the answer as well. > I am also wondering if someone online could send in a picture of the sash of the Orangeman, so I could see what they looked like? > Please place online any information about the records availability as well. > Thanks, Jane > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robt & Wendy Stevenson > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:31 PM > To: nir-down@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] NIR-DOWN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 58 > > I am also interested in the answer to this question, Lin, as I too have an > old Orange Order Sash, the owner was also high up in the Masonic Lodge. And > I also wonder where there may be information... > Wendy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "linda chapman" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:13 PM > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] NIR-DOWN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 58 > > >> Hi >> >> I am not even sure if this is a sensible question but I had this thought >> so will ask. >> >> I >> know my 3x gr grandfather James Rooney (or Roney) was buried in >> Egremont in 1880 when his age was given as 45. He is on the 61 and 71 >> census in Egremont, Cumberland when his birth place was given as Ireland, >> as were >> the births of his wife Elizabeth nee Taylor and his daughters Leticia >> and Rosannah in 1848 and 1850, his younger children being born in >> Egremont. There is a marriage for him and >> Elizabeth on the IGI for 1853 in Egremont and we have a solicitors >> letter dated 1953 that his daughters births were legitimised in January >> 1927 with the introduction of the Illegitimacy Act. >> >> I do know >> that within my Rooney family that I have just got in contact with, there >> is also his Orange Order sash that is now so faded that even if there >> had been any writing on it, it is now ileligable. As I am struggling >> to find his place of birth I am clutching at straws when I ask if there >> is any possibility of his Orange Lodge being in Cumberland? >> >> To >> compound my research he was obviously a Protestant, one of his >> daughters a devout Catholic and one of his sons was a Methodist. >> >> I am hoping sks can point me in the right direction as another question I >> have is, are the members lists for Orange Lodges of that period open to >> the public or are they still confidential? >> >> I have also put this on the google message board for Cumberland, although >> I do realize that I am clutching at straws. >> >> Thank you for your time. >> >> Regards >> >> Lin >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/14/2008 02:49:36
    1. Re: [NIR-DOWN] Births in Texas
    2. Linda Holley
    3. Did any of your DeCourcys shorten their name to Courcy? Linda -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Pat Jones" <kin-hunter25@cox.net> > Kathy, > > Would you look up births for any DeCourcy anywhere, place or time in the state > of Texas. This is my brickwall. > > Thanks a million. > > Pat > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

    02/13/2008 04:36:27
    1. Re: [NIR-DOWN] Ancestry.com census images
    2. Claire McConville
    3. Michael, I've been saving files from ancestry.com for a while now and while viewing the image I right click and choose 'copy' then paste it into my paint program and save as a jpeg. I then open it in my image viewer and crop the edges out. You should, at this point, be able to print out the image. If you're still having trouble email me at clairybums@dsl.pipex.com and let me know the details and I'll get it, edit and send it to you. Claire McConville On 13/02/2008 19:36, "MICHAEL BURNS" <aardvarkgs@btinternet.com> wrote: > > Hi > > Does anyone know how to print ancestry.com's copies of English census > returns, enlarging the text (most importantly) loosing the thick [ink-wasting > border]? > > Michael Burns > researching Boden/Bodan/Bowden /etc and Tear/Teer from Loughinisland and > Ardglass

    02/13/2008 02:03:56
    1. [NIR-DOWN] Ancestry.com census images
    2. MICHAEL BURNS
    3. Hi Does anyone know how to print ancestry.com's copies of English census returns, enlarging the text (most importantly) loosing the thick [ink-wasting border]? Michael Burns researching Boden/Bodan/Bowden /etc and Tear/Teer from Loughinisland and Ardglass Elaine J <ejorge@comcast.net> wrote: Jane I just found out the same thing about a gggg grandfather. I went googling to get more information. Your question about a picture, thought this might help. http://www.grandorangelodge.co.uk/parades/orangeman_on_parade.html E l a i n e J. T h e O t h e r E l a i n e S u m n e r, W as h i n g t o n U S A Jane Remly wrote: > Dear Wendy; > I too, have a relative , a ggf, who was a "staunch Orangeman in Ireland. > I am interested in the answer as well. > I am also wondering if someone online could send in a picture of the sash of the Orangeman, so I could see what they looked like? > Please place online any information about the records availability as well. > Thanks, Jane > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robt & Wendy Stevenson > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:31 PM > To: nir-down@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] NIR-DOWN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 58 > > I am also interested in the answer to this question, Lin, as I too have an > old Orange Order Sash, the owner was also high up in the Masonic Lodge. And > I also wonder where there may be information... > Wendy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "linda chapman" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:13 PM > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] NIR-DOWN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 58 > > >> Hi >> >> I am not even sure if this is a sensible question but I had this thought >> so will ask. >> >> I >> know my 3x gr grandfather James Rooney (or Roney) was buried in >> Egremont in 1880 when his age was given as 45. He is on the 61 and 71 >> census in Egremont, Cumberland when his birth place was given as Ireland, >> as were >> the births of his wife Elizabeth nee Taylor and his daughters Leticia >> and Rosannah in 1848 and 1850, his younger children being born in >> Egremont. There is a marriage for him and >> Elizabeth on the IGI for 1853 in Egremont and we have a solicitors >> letter dated 1953 that his daughters births were legitimised in January >> 1927 with the introduction of the Illegitimacy Act. >> >> I do know >> that within my Rooney family that I have just got in contact with, there >> is also his Orange Order sash that is now so faded that even if there >> had been any writing on it, it is now ileligable. As I am struggling >> to find his place of birth I am clutching at straws when I ask if there >> is any possibility of his Orange Lodge being in Cumberland? >> >> To >> compound my research he was obviously a Protestant, one of his >> daughters a devout Catholic and one of his sons was a Methodist. >> >> I am hoping sks can point me in the right direction as another question I >> have is, are the members lists for Orange Lodges of that period open to >> the public or are they still confidential? >> >> I have also put this on the google message board for Cumberland, although >> I do realize that I am clutching at straws. >> >> Thank you for your time. >> >> Regards >> >> Lin >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/13/2008 12:36:25
    1. Re: [NIR-DOWN] Ancestry.com census images
    2. Hi I usually save them to my computer (desktop is easy) then open them in Photoshop (other photo programs work the same). I can then crop the image, eliminating the black, and save it. I print them in landscape size. To view them, you can use the magnify tools in your photo program to see them enlarged. The images from Ancestry are usually good and large enough. Georgina Goodby Fisher Suttonian1@aol.com formerly from Sutton Coldfield now in Orange, California 6 miles east of Disneyland _www.goodbytree.org_ (http://www.goodbytree.org/) Goons member #418 One Name Study Goodby Hi Does anyone know how to print ancestry.com's copies of English census returns, enlarging the text (most importantly) loosing the thick [ink-wasting border]? Michael Burns researching Boden/Bodan/Bowden /etc and Tear/Teer from Loughinisland and Ardglass **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565)

    02/13/2008 10:46:03
    1. [NIR-DOWN] Births in Texas
    2. Pat Jones
    3. Kathy, Would you look up births for any DeCourcy anywhere, place or time in the state of Texas. This is my brickwall. Thanks a million. Pat

    02/13/2008 09:46:21
    1. Re: [NIR-DOWN] Ancestry.com census images
    2. Bob Ryan
    3. Hi If blank forms are available on the page you can print a blank form and copy in the information you need to the blank. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "sharon Maupin" <ladishar@hotmail.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Ancestry.com census images > Michael I have been trying to figure that out for a couple of years. I > end up just doing a screen shot of what I need then taking it to my Paint > Shop Pro and pasting it then cropping it to what I want...lot of work but > has been worth it... > Sharon Maupin > Arbonne International > Independent Consultant > ID#17291029 > re_4me2@q.com<mailto:re_4me2@q.com> > 480-671-1352 > Get Arbonnized!! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: MICHAEL BURNS<mailto:aardvarkgs@btinternet.com> > To: nir-down@rootsweb.com<mailto:nir-down@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:36 PM > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Ancestry.com census images > > > > Hi > > Does anyone know how to print ancestry.com's copies of English census > returns, enlarging the text (most importantly) loosing the thick > [ink-wasting border]? > > Michael Burns > researching Boden/Bodan/Bowden /etc and Tear/Teer from Loughinisland > and Ardglass > > Elaine J <ejorge@comcast.net<mailto:ejorge@comcast.net>> wrote: > Jane I just found out the same thing about a gggg grandfather. I went > googling to get more information. > Your question about a picture, thought this might help. > > http://www.grandorangelodge.co.uk/parades/orangeman_on_parade.html<http://www.grandorangelodge.co.uk/parades/orangeman_on_parade.html> > E l a i n e J. > T h e O t h e r E l a i n e > S u m n e r, W as h i n g t o n U S A > > Jane Remly wrote: > > Dear Wendy; > > I too, have a relative , a ggf, who was a "staunch Orangeman in > Ireland. > > I am interested in the answer as well. > > I am also wondering if someone online could send in a picture of the > sash of the Orangeman, so I could see what they looked like? > > Please place online any information about the records availability as > well. > > Thanks, Jane > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robt & Wendy Stevenson > > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:31 PM > > To: nir-down@rootsweb.com<mailto:nir-down@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] NIR-DOWN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 58 > > > > I am also interested in the answer to this question, Lin, as I too have > an > > old Orange Order Sash, the owner was also high up in the Masonic Lodge. > And > > I also wonder where there may be information... > > Wendy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "linda chapman" > > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:13 PM > > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] NIR-DOWN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 58 > > > > > >> Hi > >> > >> I am not even sure if this is a sensible question but I had this > thought > >> so will ask. > >> > >> I > >> know my 3x gr grandfather James Rooney (or Roney) was buried in > >> Egremont in 1880 when his age was given as 45. He is on the 61 and 71 > >> census in Egremont, Cumberland when his birth place was given as > Ireland, > >> as were > >> the births of his wife Elizabeth nee Taylor and his daughters Leticia > >> and Rosannah in 1848 and 1850, his younger children being born in > >> Egremont. There is a marriage for him and > >> Elizabeth on the IGI for 1853 in Egremont and we have a solicitors > >> letter dated 1953 that his daughters births were legitimised in > January > >> 1927 with the introduction of the Illegitimacy Act. > >> > >> I do know > >> that within my Rooney family that I have just got in contact with, > there > >> is also his Orange Order sash that is now so faded that even if there > >> had been any writing on it, it is now ileligable. As I am struggling > >> to find his place of birth I am clutching at straws when I ask if > there > >> is any possibility of his Orange Lodge being in Cumberland? > >> > >> To > >> compound my research he was obviously a Protestant, one of his > >> daughters a devout Catholic and one of his sons was a Methodist. > >> > >> I am hoping sks can point me in the right direction as another > question I > >> have is, are the members lists for Orange Lodges of that period open > to > >> the public or are they still confidential? > >> > >> I have also put this on the google message board for Cumberland, > although > >> I do realize that I am clutching at straws. > >> > >> Thank you for your time. > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Lin > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/13/2008 07:52:25
    1. Re: [NIR-DOWN] Ancestry.com census images
    2. Elaine J
    3. Opps, sorry. that should have read. Edit/ Crop Selection. E l a i n e J. T h e O t h e r E l a i n e S u m n e r, W as h i n g t o n U S A Elaine J wrote: > I download the image to my desktop and open it with Irfanview, a free > program. http://www.irfanview.com/ > Then I outline the part I want, then go to File/Crop selection. Then > save to desktop. Open and print. At this point you could adjust size. > E l a i n e J. > T h e O t h e r E l a i n e > S u m n e r, W as h i n g t o n U S A > > MICHAEL BURNS wrote: >> Hi >> >> Does anyone know how to print ancestry.com's copies of English census returns, enlarging the text (most importantly) loosing the thick [ink-wasting border]? >> >> Michael Burns >> researching Boden/Bodan/Bowden /etc and Tear/Teer from Loughinisland and Ardglass >> >> Elaine J <ejorge@comcast.net> wrote: >> Jane I just found out the same thing about a gggg grandfather. I went >> googling to get more information. >> Your question about a picture, thought this might help. >> http://www.grandorangelodge.co.uk/parades/orangeman_on_parade.html >> E l a i n e J. >> T h e O t h e r E l a i n e >> S u m n e r, W as h i n g t o n U S A >> >> Jane Remly wrote: >>> Dear Wendy; >>> I too, have a relative , a ggf, who was a "staunch Orangeman in Ireland. >>> I am interested in the answer as well. >>> I am also wondering if someone online could send in a picture of the sash of the Orangeman, so I could see what they looked like? >>> Please place online any information about the records availability as well. >>> Thanks, Jane >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Robt & Wendy Stevenson >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:31 PM >>> To: nir-down@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] NIR-DOWN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 58 >>> >>> I am also interested in the answer to this question, Lin, as I too have an >>> old Orange Order Sash, the owner was also high up in the Masonic Lodge. And >>> I also wonder where there may be information... >>> Wendy >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "linda chapman" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:13 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] NIR-DOWN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 58 >>> >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> I am not even sure if this is a sensible question but I had this thought >>>> so will ask. >>>> >>>> I >>>> know my 3x gr grandfather James Rooney (or Roney) was buried in >>>> Egremont in 1880 when his age was given as 45. He is on the 61 and 71 >>>> census in Egremont, Cumberland when his birth place was given as Ireland, >>>> as were >>>> the births of his wife Elizabeth nee Taylor and his daughters Leticia >>>> and Rosannah in 1848 and 1850, his younger children being born in >>>> Egremont. There is a marriage for him and >>>> Elizabeth on the IGI for 1853 in Egremont and we have a solicitors >>>> letter dated 1953 that his daughters births were legitimised in January >>>> 1927 with the introduction of the Illegitimacy Act. >>>> >>>> I do know >>>> that within my Rooney family that I have just got in contact with, there >>>> is also his Orange Order sash that is now so faded that even if there >>>> had been any writing on it, it is now ileligable. As I am struggling >>>> to find his place of birth I am clutching at straws when I ask if there >>>> is any possibility of his Orange Lodge being in Cumberland? >>>> >>>> To >>>> compound my research he was obviously a Protestant, one of his >>>> daughters a devout Catholic and one of his sons was a Methodist. >>>> >>>> I am hoping sks can point me in the right direction as another question I >>>> have is, are the members lists for Orange Lodges of that period open to >>>> the public or are they still confidential? >>>> >>>> I have also put this on the google message board for Cumberland, although >>>> I do realize that I am clutching at straws. >>>> >>>> Thank you for your time. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Lin >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    02/13/2008 06:59:22