Nan would you have access to the following: Sarah Jane Armstrong travelling to ?Toronto c 1875 -76 from County Down Robert McMinn travelling to Toronto from County Tyrone possibly similiar period. Many thanks Judith

Hi All, The above site looks great! Is it worth the price of membership? Would it be equally helpful for researching both Antrim and Down? Please email me directly. I am dying to join but, here in the US, we are having a recession, you know; must be careful! Thanks much, Carol [email protected]

Regarding question about Brackenagh townland. Ros Davies site has a slightly different alternate spelling to the one mentioned which may help. It is Brecknogh and is from the 1659 census. see placenames link on Ros' site. _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/) **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

Hi Everyone, Does anyone have access to the Canadian Passenger lists and able to do a lookup for me (ancestry.com)? I need to find a Joseph Law McKee going to New Brunswick between 1911 to 1930s? Thanks, Alison Aldersea _________________________________________________________________ Holiday cheer from Messenger. Download free emoticons today! http://livelife.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=669758

Judith, Do you think they may have arrived in the US, then gone to Canada married there, then returned to the US? Nan On Jan 6, 2009, at 3:55 AM, Judith and Graeme Collins wrote: > Nan thank you for your comprehensive reply. > > Sarah and Robert had moved to Pennsylvania and I found them in the > 1880 > American Census. > > On the 1880 census no Immigration date is mentioned but the 1900 > census for > the United States he quotes 1876 as year of Immigration, 1910 census > he > quotes 1876 also but 1920 census he quoted 1880. I wonder if the > 1880 date > relates to when Sarah and he went to Pennsylvania and arrived in > time for > the Census.? > > However I don't know how or when they arrived in Canada . I was > thinking > that if it was 1876 then maybe they met on the ship and married > shortly > after in the Feb 1877 therefore hoping if I found one on a passenger > list I > could find the other. Oh well back to the drawing board they must be > on a > list somewhere. > > many thanks for your kindness in helping > > Judith > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nan Brennan" <nan.brennan[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:41 PM > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Canadian Passenger Lists c 1875 > > >> >> There is a marriage record for a Robert McMinn age 28 from Co Tyrone >> and Sarah Jane Armstrong, age 23 >> in York Ontario on Feb 1 1877. Robert's parents were John and Jane >> McGinn >> Sarah Jane Armstrong was 23 daughter of Andrew and Elizabeth >> Armstrong >> of Co Down. >> Witnesses were Mary B Wallace and Maggie McDonald. >> >> I could not find them in the 1881 Canada census. >> >> None of the passenger records fit your time frame unless Sarah came >> much earlier >> than you thought: >> >> There was a Sarah Armstrong that arrived at Quebec in Aug 1868 age 17 >> no place origin given, >> but listed as Irish. Ship name was "The Austrian" >> >> >> There was a Robert McMinn traveling later, listed in Quebec >> immigration records >> for July 1888. He was 26. No country of origin , ship or date or >> arrival given. >> A few lines above him was a Sarah McMinn 25, and a Charles McMinn >> 18. >> All three were headed for Toronto. This his is the same Robert McMinn >> listed in a separate record as >> arriving 14 Jul 1888 on the Sarmatian that sailed from Liverpool and >> Londonderry. >> This doesn't fit either unless those ages were wrong and they >> returned >> to Ireland after >> their Toronto marriage and then back again. >> >> There is another Ancestry Index "Passenger and Immigration Lists >> Index >> 1500s-1900s" >> that has four Robert McMinns arriving in Toronto all in the year 1871 >> age 36, age 50, age 50, age 70. No further info on this list, ie no >> place of origins. >> There is no passenger list image for this file. None of these would >> fit the age of the >> Robert McMinn married to Sarah Armstrong in Toronto in 1877. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Nan would you have access to the following: >>> >>> Sarah Jane Armstrong travelling to ?Toronto c 1875 -76 from County >>> Down >>> >>> Robert McMinn travelling to Toronto from County Tyrone possibly >>> similiar >>> period. >>> >>> >>> Many thanks >>> Judith >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> Searchable list archive at >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> Searchable list archive at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

There is a marriage record for a Robert McMinn age 28 from Co Tyrone and Sarah Jane Armstrong, age 23 in York Ontario on Feb 1 1877. Robert's parents were John and Jane McGinn Sarah Jane Armstrong was 23 daughter of Andrew and Elizabeth Armstrong of Co Down. Witnesses were Mary B Wallace and Maggie McDonald. I could not find them in the 1881 Canada census. None of the passenger records fit your time frame unless Sarah came much earlier than you thought: There was a Sarah Armstrong that arrived at Quebec in Aug 1868 age 17 no place origin given, but listed as Irish. Ship name was "The Austrian" There was a Robert McMinn traveling later, listed in Quebec immigration records for July 1888. He was 26. No country of origin , ship or date or arrival given. A few lines above him was a Sarah McMinn 25, and a Charles McMinn 18. All three were headed for Toronto. This his is the same Robert McMinn listed in a separate record as arriving 14 Jul 1888 on the Sarmatian that sailed from Liverpool and Londonderry. This doesn't fit either unless those ages were wrong and they returned to Ireland after their Toronto marriage and then back again. There is another Ancestry Index "Passenger and Immigration Lists Index 1500s-1900s" that has four Robert McMinns arriving in Toronto all in the year 1871 age 36, age 50, age 50, age 70. No further info on this list, ie no place of origins. There is no passenger list image for this file. None of these would fit the age of the Robert McMinn married to Sarah Armstrong in Toronto in 1877. > Nan would you have access to the following: > > Sarah Jane Armstrong travelling to ?Toronto c 1875 -76 from County > Down > > Robert McMinn travelling to Toronto from County Tyrone possibly > similiar > period. > > > Many thanks > Judith > > ------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Alison, Your Joseph Law McKee May have been traveling again in 1923: Joseph L McKee age 31, married Arrived NY from Southhampton England SS Leviathan Nov 1923 occupation Pattern Maker Last residence Belfast wife Grace McKee 34 Buckingham St Belfast destination Detroit Michigan going to friend, Thomas Morrow 20 Mason St North, Dearborn Michigan. On Jan 5, 2009, at 11:03 PM, Nan Brennan wrote: > age 21 born abt 1890, Single > arrived 9 Dec 1911 > Vessel Empress of Ireland > Arrived St John New Brunswick > Roll T-4825 > Ticket no 1825y8 > Presbyterian > destination Winnipeg > previous occupation pattern maker > intended occupation clergyman > > On Jan 5, 2009, at 10:32 PM, Alison Aldersea wrote: > >> >> Hi Everyone, >> Does anyone have access to the Canadian Passenger lists and able to >> do a lookup for me (ancestry.com)? I need to find a Joseph Law >> McKee going to New Brunswick between 1911 to 1930s? >> Thanks, >> Alison Aldersea >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Holiday cheer from Messenger. Download free emoticons today! >> http://livelife.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=669758 >> ------------------------------- >> Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >

age 21 born abt 1890, Single arrived 9 Dec 1911 Vessel Empress of Ireland Arrived St John New Brunswick Roll T-4825 Ticket no 1825y8 Presbyterian destination Winnipeg previous occupation pattern maker intended occupation clergyman On Jan 5, 2009, at 10:32 PM, Alison Aldersea wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > Does anyone have access to the Canadian Passenger lists and able to > do a lookup for me (ancestry.com)? I need to find a Joseph Law McKee > going to New Brunswick between 1911 to 1930s? > Thanks, > Alison Aldersea > _________________________________________________________________ > Holiday cheer from Messenger. Download free emoticons today! > http://livelife.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=669758 > ------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

is Brackagh another name for Brackenagh/Brackenaugh in the Mourne/Kilkeel area?

I have added 500 1881 Lancashire Down Strays to my web pages. Quick access is via the latest updates link on my home page at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~meaneypj/index.htm Best wishes, Pete.

Thomas was my wife's grandfather. He died shortly after arriving in the USA about 1930. His second wife and their 4 children remained in Glasgow. At 1911 census at 78 Short Strand Street, Pottinger, Belfast, County Down (I believe most of Belfast is Co Antrim) with parents JOHN DEMPSEY b Belfast abt 1861 & ELIZABETH MCLAUGHLIN b Belfast abt 1864. Also at home then were 2 of the 4 other children - John b 1887 and James b 1895. I am looking for any data on Thomas' parents John and Elizabeth. Thomas was single 1911 and later a widower in Glasgow abt 1918. In the interim he married and they had 2 girls - one named Lillie (?). His wife was said to have been killed in the Troubles - I assume about 1916. Wife's name unknown but there is a marriage 2 Apr 1913 between a Thomas Dempsey and an ELIZABETH DARCY at RC Church, Belfast Urban 15 Co Antrim. I believe daughter Lillie later lived England and the other daughter later lived in Belfast. The one in Belfast had a daughter Toni who visited Glasgow for a few months about 1962.She is my wife's cousin. Looking for information on Thomas' first marriage and children. Thanks ! JOHN SHAW AUCKLAND NZ.

Found when transcribing Headstones at Deansgrange Cemetery, Co.Dublin - In Loving Memory | of | Lieut. Col. Wm. BEERS | Late H.M. 26th Cameronians | Born at Newcastle, Co. Down | Dec. 7 1836 | Went to be with Christ | Sep. 29 1919 | "Till the day dawn". I am in the middle of doing a batch for http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/. A photo will be availabe on this Website in a couple of weeks time. If anyone has a connection to this family I shall be happy to let you have a copy of the photo of the Headstone. Just contact me. Joyce

Hi listers, This is a further attempt to find my LYNCHEY and MULLAN (spell either anyway you wish) ancestors. Both appear to have come from County Down, certainly Sarah LYNCHEY had stated on her entry on the indent of convicts on the ship Mary III which arrived in Sydney in September 1835 that she was born there. Her age given on this and other documents indicate a birth year C 1785. She was also stated to be a widow, a Roman Catholic, illiterate and to have several identifying scars. She had been convicted on the Isle of Man and sentenced to 14 years for stealing and receiving stolen money. Her son Thomas had been sentenced with her. With permission from the Home Department she brought 2 of 2 daughters with her and 1 of 3 sons, Thomas came on another vessel. The other son may have been left behind, sons up to 8 years were allowed to accompany a convict mother, or alternatively he may have been deceased. I have found on the Isle of Man candidates for both being left behind and a possible death in a cholera outbreak in 1832. The ages of the known children indicate that Sarah did not have them until she was into her thirties; she would have been of child bearing age by C 1800. She may have had children during the first 2 decades of the 19th century and then been widowed or her husband may have been in the army during the Napoleonic wars which ended in 1815. There was a Michael LYNCHEY in the Portaferry area in the early 1820's and a Michael LYNCHY (no E) is recorded on the Isle of Man as having a daughter baptised whose mother was Sarah Mullan. On the death certificate of her daughter the convict Sarah's husband is recorded as "James LYNCH, army officer". James LYNCHEY is also recorded in the Portaferry region in the early part of the 19th century. Further the cholera deaths also carried of the father of the possible third son, the father was Michael and they died near the site of the British garrison at Castletown on the IoM. Can anyone point me to where I may find further clues on these two? Happy New Year to all Cheers Peter Melbourne Australia

Seeking information on Patrick Reilly married Catherine Rodgers Kilkeel 1903, their family. Annie Mary Maggie Francis Catherine A sister Mary of Patrick Reilly was also living with them in 1911 Raymond

Hello Listers, I'm new to your list and am asking for information on the above mentioned school. I was extremely fortunate at Christmas to be given a book that has been presented to my grandmother Hessie McCombe FRASER on 31st Dec 1879 when she was eleven years old. The inscription on the flyleaf reads - Awarded to Hessie Fraser for Diligent Attention at the Parrehul (spelling may be Parnehul ) Ly (could be Ln) School on 31st Dec 1879. Signed Thos (the rest of signature difficult to decipher). Vicar of Ballymacarrett, Belfast. Rural Dean. Hessie was born in Mar 1868 at "Woodstock Cottage" Belfast she came to Queensland AUS in 1887 to be a governess on a QLD property. She married in 1889, moved south to NSW, had eight children and died in 1919 aged 51. Any information would be very much appreciated. Fay Markwell Lake Macquarie, NSW

Hi Everybody, I am seeking information on the birth and marriage and family roots of of my great grandparents: Edward Feron was son of Michael Feron (Farm Labourer) and Catherine Feron (nee Lennon) he was born ca 1827 and died 22/8/1890 Martha Mc Call daughter of Michael Mc Call (Mason) and Mary Mc Call (nee Lattimer) she was born ca 1831 died 14/2/1910 In 1871 they were in Glasgow operating a clay pipe factory. Census records record them as having been born in North Down. (I am not sure where the precise boundary is). Feron and McCall family names appear frequently in County Down records I have found but I have not been able to identify birthplaces for Edward and Martha nor any record of marriage. However the Lattimers seem to have been centred on Castlereagh townland between Belfast and Newtownards. There were McCalls near Holywood and Newtownards and Ferons in Dromara and Lennons in Downpatrick, Dromore, Ballymacarret and numerous other parishes. Can anyone suggest a further line of research? Is anyone linked to them or researching these families? Dan Hardie Sydney Australia

Peter Could he have been building the brick ovens for the coke ovens? If so, how might you find that out? Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter McGuinness" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 7:17 AM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] MURNIN/MURNAN Lots and lots of people from "our" area went to Barrow, including my GGF and his family. I have not found out what he did there, but he was a bricklayer when he came across to Blaydon. Peter

Hi Owen, No, I don't think we are related I don't have any Rose Anne Fitzsimons in my tree. My early family (1800's) lived in Bright townland and Downpatrick mostly. Thanks for writing anyway. Regards, Muriel in California, USA. **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025)

Hi Muriel. I wonder if we are realted. My paternal grandmother was Rose Anne Fitzsimons. Her father was Edward Fitzsimons and her Mother was Rose Trainor. They were from Tyrella Parish, Co Down. I have more info on them if this seems relevent. Regards. Owen Davey. Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 3:06 AM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Flower of the County Down > > Hi Fiona, > > I loved the words of this song. I noticed you are from Newtonards. I > have > an ancestor from that area - Margaret Ellen (Fitzsimons) Trainor (b. 1867 > died ?). Her husband James Trainor d. in 1898 and was a member of the > RIC in > Newtonards. Do you know of any Trainors' in the area? Margaret was a > nurse > and on the 1911 Census she was living with her brother Patrick & > Josephine > Fitzsimons in Movilla townland. Margaret Ellen and James Trainor, I am > told, had > 5 children but I don't have any names and no children were listed with > her > on 1911 Census. > > Any help from anyone on the list would be greatly appreciated. > > Muriel Fitzsimmons > California, USA > > **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, > Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) > ------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: 12/29/2008 10:48 AM

Hi list my MURNIN's worked in the Ironworks. They were based in Seaton & Cockermouth part of the Workington area. Pat