Thanks, Pat. My Thomas wouldn't show up in 1911 as he died in 1906!! Sad, most of the children died... Wendy

The 1901 has not been done yet they finishing the 19211 as far as I can make out. I found the following in the 1911 census Sommerville spelt with 2 M's And Thomas's age is out by a couple of years but ages in census seem notorious for being wrong Good luck in your search Patricia New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bob & Wendy Stevenson Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NIR-DOWN] 1901 Census I know that this census is supposed to be digitised, like the 1911 one and available online. Can someone please tell me if there is a household in Belfast where lives Thomas Corry Somerville, born 1893, so he would be age 7 or 8. When I try the census I get no Somervilles at all, and I know there were quite a number of them, including young Thomas. I would be interested in knowing the address and any others in the household. Thanks for any help. Wendy

Hi again It is 1853 and 54 that I have not 1855. Couldn't see anything in my files. You might try and look at Log of Logs by Ian Nicholson at libraries. There are 3 volumes and you need to check each one. I have the list from two of them - I think Vol 1 and 2 and the 1856 voyage is not listed so especially try for Vol 3. It may list who has passenger lists. Failing that you can buy a copy of the entry for your family from NSW State Archives for $25 or get it yourself much cheaper if you go yourself - you don't say where you are. Regards Lyn In Brisbane Oz -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lyn Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 2:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Emmigrant Ship "Kate" to Australia, mid 1850's Hi Owen I have info on 1854 and 1855. Checking the indexes it looks like they arrived 1856. I will see if I have anything on that voyage and if so get back to you. Regards Lyn In Oz. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Owen Davey Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 2:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Emmigrant Ship "Kate" to Australia, mid 1850's Hello all. I would be grateful for help in sourcing the passenger list for this ship/voyage. An earlier voyage manifest is on line but none that I can find for the mid 1850s. The "Kate" landed its immigrants at Sydney, NSW. I am looking fot he family of James Carolan/Carlin and his wife Mary Ann Davey,. They apparently had four children with them the youngest of whom was John Joseph. They came from, Ballynahinch area, Co. Down. According to Australian death records, Mary Ann was the daughter of Patrick Davey and Mary Denvir from Ballynahinch. She was born circa.1809. Thanks, Owen Davey --------------------------------- 469 list members as of 8 Jan 2009 - hopefully at least one of them will answer your question! --------------------------------- Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- 469 list members as of 8 Jan 2009 - hopefully at least one of them will answer your question! --------------------------------- Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Owen I have info on 1854 and 1855. Checking the indexes it looks like they arrived 1856. I will see if I have anything on that voyage and if so get back to you. Regards Lyn In Oz. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Owen Davey Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 2:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Emmigrant Ship "Kate" to Australia, mid 1850's Hello all. I would be grateful for help in sourcing the passenger list for this ship/voyage. An earlier voyage manifest is on line but none that I can find for the mid 1850s. The "Kate" landed its immigrants at Sydney, NSW. I am looking fot he family of James Carolan/Carlin and his wife Mary Ann Davey,. They apparently had four children with them the youngest of whom was John Joseph. They came from, Ballynahinch area, Co. Down. According to Australian death records, Mary Ann was the daughter of Patrick Davey and Mary Denvir from Ballynahinch. She was born circa.1809. Thanks, Owen Davey --------------------------------- 469 list members as of 8 Jan 2009 - hopefully at least one of them will answer your question! --------------------------------- Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi By any chance do you know if they went to Scotland Regards jean On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Gord Patton <[email protected]> wrote: > I am looking for information on the families of my two Grandparents who > were > both born in Northern Ireland. John Patton was the youngest of 10 children > born to Thomas Patton and Esther Callender. Born 1905. Had 7 siblings that > survived childhood, and at least 4 that were alive after 1941. Sister > Winifred b/1893 married Samuel Lyttle Downey in 1914/ ; Esther b/1895 > married William Moore in 1919, Isabel b/1896; Agnes Vincent b/1898 married > Edgar McCutcheon; Elizabeth b/1900; William Callender b/1902; and Vincent > b/1904. My Grandfather emigrated to Canada in 1929. He married Maggie Gault > the daughter of Hugh Gault and Sarah Laughlin. They were from the Belfast, > Monkstown area. She had sisters Sarah, Jane, Susan, and a brother Hugh. Her > three sisters ended up in the U.S. but I have not been able to find any > information on her family in Ireland. > > The Patton family in Belfast seems to have dissappeared after 1941. They > were in the Real estate business. I am aware that Agnes Vincent and her > husband Edgar McCutcheon inherited one of the family homes in 1941. That > was > on Groomsport Road in Bangor. The two other brothers shared the rest of > their mother's estate and business that had been passed to her from the > estate of Thomas Patton in 1912. At the time of Esther Patton's death in > 1940, William Callender Patton operated the Patton Estate business at 100 > High Street, Belfast. Brother Vincent seems also to have been involved and > lived on Shandon Road in Bangor. > > Do any of these names or events ring a bell with anyone? I am desperately > trying to piece together the history of these families. > > Thanks > > Gord Patton > Zurawel Patton Sample > Tel: 1-416-303-5494 > Fx: 1-905-576-4975 > Em: [email protected] > www.zps.ca > > --------------------------------- > 469 list members as of 8 Jan 2009 - hopefully at least one of them will > answer your question! > --------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kind regards Jean

Thank you all for your responses. I really appreciate you help. Owen

... and the reel numbers match those in the link I sent. So you know that the Carolan family sailed from Plymouth on 7 Sep 1856 and arrived in Sydney on 23 Dec 1856. Stan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kate Cunningham Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 2:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] "Kate" arrival in 1856 Owen, If you go to http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/searchform.aspx?id=4 and just enter Carolan in the surname box of the search...up they will pop the whole family. If you want you can then order copies of the original index with their information on it. I did this for one of my lot and the index has a lot more information then that shown in the search results. Cheers, Kate

Hello List The Irish BDMs have just gone online here: http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/#c=1408347;p=2;t=searchable they include births 1864-1958, marriages 1845-1958 & deaths 1864-1958. Max

Hi Owen I don't know if this is of any help but the site http://www.blaxland.com/ozships/ shows the Kate sailed from London on 3 Aug 1854 and landed in Sydney 18 Nov 1854. It also sailed from Plymouth on 7 Sep 1856 and arrived (port not shown) on 23 Dec 1856. You can find these by following the "Arrivals" link. It provides the source of the info, but you will need to decipher what these are. Hopefully they'll lead to the passenger list. Stan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Owen Davey Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Emmigrant Ship "Kate" to Australia, mid 1850's Hello all. I would be grateful for help in sourcing the passenger list for this ship/voyage....

HI Brenda, I did try that, and got up a load of McTears, but not mine..... I guess they must not be on there....don't know why. Just my luck. Trued to find William's wife Sarah Lindsay... that turned out to be a really common name in Co, down. Ah well... but thank you. Pen

Hello all. I would be grateful for help in sourcing the passenger list for this ship/voyage. An earlier voyage manifest is on line but none that I can find for the mid 1850s. The "Kate" landed its immigrants at Sydney, NSW. I am looking fot he family of James Carolan/Carlin and his wife Mary Ann Davey,. They apparently had four children with them the youngest of whom was John Joseph. They came from, Ballynahinch area, Co. Down. According to Australian death records, Mary Ann was the daughter of Patrick Davey and Mary Denvir from Ballynahinch. She was born circa.1809. Thanks, Owen Davey

Carol, thank you very much for explaining all this for me. I have chronic migraine and have to use the PC when I can, it helps such a lot to be able to just jump in rather than try to figure stuff. I will try again and also be p[patient with the site. thank you for your kindness, hope you find your names too. Pennie

I know that this census is supposed to be digitised, like the 1911 one and available online. Can someone please tell me if there is a household in Belfast where lives Thomas Corry Somerville, born 1893, so he would be age 7 or 8. When I try the census I get no Somervilles at all, and I know there were quite a number of them, including young Thomas. I would be interested in knowing the address and any others in the household. Thanks for any help. Wendy

Thanks for this. I cant find any of my family on here. they seem to be missing. Are these supposed to include everyone. My McTears are conspicuous by their absence. I would quite like to just scroll through the lists is there a way to do that please...anyone. thanks Pennie

Its a bit long winded but you could find the name of a spouse by searching the same Year or Quarter to look for other entries containing the same registration district, volume and page number as the groom using the next and previous page arrows. I suspect this may come up with more than one couple but it would produce a small shortlist for further consideration. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Keenan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 3:45 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] registry help > Hello all: > Well I too have glanced at the new registry link. Does anyone know how to > find the name of an unknown spouse on the marriage registry or the names > of parents on the birth registry. The registry numbers are helpful if I > have the microfilm in front of me but not so much if I only have the name > and number of a potential relative. > Any help would be appreciated. > Best regards from a chilly Western NY > Chuck Keenan > > --- On Sat, 1/24/09, [email protected] > <[email protected]> wrote: > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: NIR-DOWN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 28 > To: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 4:59 PM > > > Don't hit Reply to respond to a digest message, but cut & paste the > specific message into a new email AND change the subject line. -------- > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Lookups (Claire McConville) > 2. Irish Registration Indexes 1845-1958 Online! (Carol) > 3. Re: Irish Registration Indexes 1845-1958 Online! > (Claire McConville) > 4. Re: Irish Registration Indexes 1845-1958 Online! > (Peter McGuinness) > 5. Re: Irish Registration Indexes 1845-1958 Online! > ([email protected]) > 6. Re: Irish Registration Indexes 1845-1958 Online! (Elaine J) > 7. Re: Irish Registration Indexes 1845-1958 Online! (smegraw) > 8. Morrow, John (Nancy Schaalje) > 9. Civil Registers: Thanks and, a Caution. (Owen Davey) > 10. Re: Irish Registration Indexes 1845-1958 Online! > (Peter McGuinness) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:45:40 +0000 > From: Claire McConville <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Lookups > To: the_researcher <[email protected]>, > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <C5A0CC04.E68A%[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Raymond, > > You more than deserve some time off!!! I will always be grateful to you > for > the information you gave me personally and the info you have made > available > to us all. > > Claire > > > On 22/01/2009 21:24, "the_researcher" > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Iam very sorry but myself and my daughter will have to stop doing lookups > for >> the present, the lookups are coming in more often now,and we are trying >> to > get >> the website into shape,(old age and the daughter working doesent give us > much >> time), I have been doing this for about 10 years now, and the old brain >> is > not >> as quick as it used to be,when i go to bed at night i dont dream of > winning >> the lottery or faraway places, its births, deaths and marriages, so >> please >> excuse an oul self educated eejit for taking a rest. >> Raymond > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 08:25:56 -0800 (PST) > From: Carol <[email protected]> > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Irish Registration Indexes 1845-1958 Online! > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > I don't know if anyone has seen this yet but the Irish Registration > Indexes > are online here > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=2;t=searchable;c=1408347 > .? The summary of the records listing says there are no images but I was > able to > see images for some so I don't know if all images are up yet and the > collection isn't complete online yet but it's a wonderful start! > > Carol > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:56:06 +0000 > From: Claire McConville <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Irish Registration Indexes 1845-1958 Online! > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <C5A0F8A6.E6B0%[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > Carol, > > Yes, I have been manically going round telling everyone of this great new > resource. I have already found my GG Grannie's death on there and the > image > of the original! Great stuff. > > Claire > > > On 24/01/2009 16:25, "Carol" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I don't know if anyone has seen this yet but the Irish Registration > Indexes >> are online here >> > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=2;t=searchable;c >> =1408347 .? The summary of the records listing says there are no images > but I >> was able to see images for some so I don't know if all images are up > yet and >> the collection isn't complete online yet but it's a wonderful > start! >> >> Carol > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:29:30 -0800 > From: Peter McGuinness <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Irish Registration Indexes 1845-1958 Online! > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Does anyone know where I can find the descriptions of the registration > districts? (or tell me which district contained Drumgath parish) > > Peter > > Carol wrote: >> I don't know if anyone has seen this yet but the Irish Registration > Indexes are online here > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=2;t=searchable;c=1408347 > . The summary of the records listing says there are no images but I was > able to > see images for some so I don't know if all images are up yet and the > collection isn't complete online yet but it's a wonderful start! >> >> Carol >> >> --------------------------------- >> 469 list members as of 8 Jan 2009 - hopefully at least one of them will > answer your question! >> --------------------------------- >> Searchable list archive at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:46:58 EST > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Irish Registration Indexes 1845-1958 Online! > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Think you need the Newry registration district Peter!! > > Sheila > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:57:14 -0800 > From: Elaine J <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Irish Registration Indexes 1845-1958 Online! > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Thank You for the heads up. I will be spending a lot of time there. > E l a i n e J. > T h e O t h e r E l a i n e > S u m n e r, W as h i n g t o n U S A > > Carol wrote: >> I don't know if anyone has seen this yet but the Irish Registration >> Indexes are online here >> > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=2;t=searchable;c=1408347 >> . The summary of the records listing says there are no images but I >> was able to see images for some so I don't know if all images are up >> yet and the collection isn't complete online yet but it's a > wonderful >> start! >> >> Carol >> >> --------------------------------- 469 list members as of 8 Jan 2009 - >> hopefully at least one of them will answer your question! >> --------------------------------- Searchable list archive at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN >> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please >> send an email to [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the >> message >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - >> http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1912 >> - Release Date: 1/23/2009 6:54 PM >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:15:09 -0500 > From: smegraw <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Irish Registration Indexes 1845-1958 Online! > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAIAUuwLXJ0dCtDLhisum5/vCgAAAEAAAAGeQcxN/[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Sheila is s correct... check this link Peter: > > http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/~oduibhin/oirthear/downmaps.htm > > Stan > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 1:47 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Irish Registration Indexes 1845-1958 Online! > > Think you need the Newry registration district Peter!! > > Sheila > --------------------------------- > 469 list members as of 8 Jan 2009 - hopefully at least one of them will > answer your question! > --------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:25:07 -0700 > From: "Nancy Schaalje" <[email protected]> > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Morrow, John > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Morrow, John, born abt 1811, died 12 Feb 1889, Raffrey, Down, Ireland, Md > Jane > ..., May have been married twice. Children Robert b 1834, Md Jane Carse; > Margaret b 1837, Md Samuel Stewart, William b abt 1846, md Margaret > Cleland. > Seeking information on John, especially wife(s) name(s). Will look up at > Proni > would be apprediated. > > Nancy McCormack Schaalje > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:54:05 -0400 > From: "Owen Davey" <[email protected]> > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Civil Registers: Thanks and, a Caution. > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > This a great new site and thank you to those who alerted us all. I see > this > development a turning point in NI research. > I spent years, including three trips to Ireland, to find this info. Sort > of > feel I have been a bit out-flanked, but I am happy for all those for whom > this > resource will be a "'god-send". In a couple of years or so all the > basic information will be on line and easily accesible. Still nothing can > ever > replace those memorable trips to Ireland! > > One word of caution, there may be un-reliability in this new data > in-somuch as > some RC parish priest were very slow "to get with the new program". > During the transition period when the RC clergy were coming up to speed, > I > think I am safe in saying that some parish ceremonies did not make it to > the > civil registration authorities. So if you can not find records where you > expect > them to exist, check back with the parish records themseves. > > I am not sure if this is the right way to say this, but I have been > "be-deviled" over the years by the sloppiness in the way parish > preists managed their registers. Events are mis-dated, participants mixed > up, > and date-order meant nothing at all. I think priests kept their notes on > scaps > of paper in their pockets and brought their journals up to date as it > occured to > them. Still, i thank them for their work and the legacy of these > documents. > > For a penance, try and work your way though the Magheradrool RC Parish > Register. Including the most valuable information, it also portrays every > register-keeping error known to man or priest > > My best to you all, especially all the pioneers in Co Down geneology > research > like Raymond and Ros, and those others who led the way. > > Owen Davey > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:58:54 -0800 > From: Peter McGuinness <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Irish Registration Indexes 1845-1958 Online! > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Thanks Stan and Sheila, local knowledge is a real boon! > Peter > > smegraw wrote: >> Sheila is s correct... check this link Peter: >> >> http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/~oduibhin/oirthear/downmaps.htm >> >> Stan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of [email protected] >> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 1:47 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Irish Registration Indexes 1845-1958 Online! >> >> Think you need the Newry registration district Peter!! >> >> Sheila >> --------------------------------- >> 469 list members as of 8 Jan 2009 - hopefully at least one of them will >> answer your question! >> --------------------------------- >> Searchable list archive at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> --------------------------------- >> 469 list members as of 8 Jan 2009 - hopefully at least one of them will > answer your question! >> --------------------------------- >> Searchable list archive at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NIR-DOWN list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the NIR-DOWN mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NIR-DOWN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 28 > *************************************** > > > > > --------------------------------- > 469 list members as of 8 Jan 2009 - hopefully at least one of them will > answer your question! > --------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for information on the families of my two Grandparents who were both born in Northern Ireland. John Patton was the youngest of 10 children born to Thomas Patton and Esther Callender. Born 1905. Had 7 siblings that survived childhood, and at least 4 that were alive after 1941. Sister Winifred b/1893 married Samuel Lyttle Downey in 1914/ ; Esther b/1895 married William Moore in 1919, Isabel b/1896; Agnes Vincent b/1898 married Edgar McCutcheon; Elizabeth b/1900; William Callender b/1902; and Vincent b/1904. My Grandfather emigrated to Canada in 1929. He married Maggie Gault the daughter of Hugh Gault and Sarah Laughlin. They were from the Belfast, Monkstown area. She had sisters Sarah, Jane, Susan, and a brother Hugh. Her three sisters ended up in the U.S. but I have not been able to find any information on her family in Ireland. The Patton family in Belfast seems to have dissappeared after 1941. They were in the Real estate business. I am aware that Agnes Vincent and her husband Edgar McCutcheon inherited one of the family homes in 1941. That was on Groomsport Road in Bangor. The two other brothers shared the rest of their mother's estate and business that had been passed to her from the estate of Thomas Patton in 1912. At the time of Esther Patton's death in 1940, William Callender Patton operated the Patton Estate business at 100 High Street, Belfast. Brother Vincent seems also to have been involved and lived on Shandon Road in Bangor. Do any of these names or events ring a bell with anyone? I am desperately trying to piece together the history of these families. Thanks Gord Patton Zurawel Patton Sample Tel: 1-416-303-5494 Fx: 1-905-576-4975 Em: [email protected] www.zps.ca

Carol. Post a list of the names you are looking for. Some of us could help you out. I have time to do a few. Owen Davey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Irish BDMs - can't scroll > Carol, > > thank you very much for explaining all this for me. > I have chronic migraine and have to use the PC when I can, it helps such a > lot to be able to just jump in rather than try to figure stuff. > I will try again and also be p[patient with the site. > > thank you for your kindness, hope you find your names too. > > Pennie > > --------------------------------- > 469 list members as of 8 Jan 2009 - hopefully at least one of them will > answer your question! > --------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1914 - Release Date: 1/24/2009 8:40 PM

The IGP Archives is taking obits now. You can use our uploading system for this. http://www.genrecords.org/irfiles/ Please just be sure the obit mentions Down. This is a big help to people looking for a location. Thanks, Christina http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/

Pennie: Try putting in just the last name, no dates, no locations. It worked for me. Brenda Pen wrote: > Thanks for this. > > I cant find any of my family on here. they seem to be missing. > Are these supposed to include everyone. > My McTears are conspicuous by their absence. > I would quite like to just scroll through the lists is there a way to do > that please...anyone. > > thanks > Pennie > > --------------------------------- > 469 list members as of 8 Jan 2009 - hopefully at least one of them will answer your question! > --------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

There is no way to scroll through them - it's a pilot site and these particular records have just been listed (It doesn't note that the collection is complete so it probably isn't yet) - they will probably update it to allow searching by letter/date/place after the collection is just about complete online.  It's something they've done for other collections.  That said - there is a way although it's a very time consuming way to look through them page by page - put in a name, any name will do then choose one (preferably close to the time frame you are searching) that is a listing of a marriage/birth/death whichever event you are looking for .  At the detail screen there should be a picture of a ledger in the upper right of the page - click on that and it will bring you to an image of the Index page. Above the upper right of the image it shows what number image you are on out of how many are on the roll - you can jump ahead pages or just use the previous or next buttons.  You can make the image window slightly larger by clicking the tiny black triangle that points up just above the collection name, the image itself can be made larger using the zoom feature.  The box on the lower right will show in yellow what section of the page you're looking at. Please keep in mind that this is a pilot site - it's meant to iron out all the kinks and it's cheaper & easier than getting the microfilms from the LDS family history centers - there is a feedback button - top right of the page - to let them know what you thought of your experience.  Please read the Reliability section of the collection description, too - it very clearly states what discrepancies there might be, there were some posted concerns about the accuracy of the Indexes. Hope you find your names! --- On Sun, 1/25/09, Pen <[email protected]> wrote: From: Pen <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Irish BDMs To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 6:21 PM Thanks for this. I cant find any of my family on here. they seem to be missing. Are these supposed to include everyone. My McTears are conspicuous by their absence. I would quite like to just scroll through the lists is there a way to do that please...anyone. thanks Pennie --------------------------------- 469 list members as of 8 Jan 2009 - hopefully at least one of them will answer your question! --------------------------------- Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message