The second issue of the Co. Down Genealogy newsletter - the DOWN STAR - is now available online at: http://www.igp-web.com/down/CDG-Newsletter.htm Members of this LIST may be interested to read the Belfast Essays and learn about obtaining civil registration certificates. I hope you enjoy reading the newsletter....and perhaps you will have a contribution for the next issue. Have fun everyone! Fiona. ======= IGP Co. Down Coordinator <http://www.igp-web.com/down/index.htm> http://www.igp-web.com/down/index.htm Author of Miners of Mourne <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mourneminers/> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mourneminers/ *NEW* Co. Down Genealogy Group <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CountyDownGenealogy/> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CountyDownGenealogy/

I am looking into the Rogan family tree, I have found a will that my G Granddad was a witness, It is a Catherine Rogan from Guiness and in the will is John McMullan from Loughinisland and her niece Mary McMullan,also her sister Mary Reilly, the will is from 1891, and I also have a copy of the Loughinisland Graveyard headstone of McMullan and Mary Reilly was McMullan from Seavaghan and Catherine Rogan is buried in the McMullan Grave so I take it that she was McMullan, I think she may have married a Charles or Edward Rogan, does anyone know any more about Catherine?

I wonder if anyone is researching the names Donnan or Reilly from the Kilkeel area, any information however small will be appreciated. Raymond (Thats me started Sheila)

Canadian shipping records are available at www.ancestry.ca If you are a member of ancestry.com I believe you can use the same user name and password to log in. When you get to the home page scroll to the bottom where there is a box of New Records at ancestry.ca. The Canadian Passenger lists 1865 to 1935 are listed. I did do a brief check and the closest I could find using soundex was Mahoney in 1920. Try the variations is spellings that you have. I believe the records are not yet complete. Is it possible that he entered Canada from the US? Good Luck. Nancy Message: 4 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:15:32 -0000 From: "Peter J Meaney" <[email protected]> Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Canadian Passenger Records To: "[email protected] Com" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I wonder if anyone on the list with access to Canadian passenger records could please do a lookup for me. I'm looking for John MEANEY (or other variant) who sometime between 1912 and March 1915 went from Co. Down to Canada and is believed to have been heading to British Columbia to work some land under a scheme where the land could have eventually became his own. John is known to have joined the Canadian Mounted Rifles in 1915. Regards Pete.

Yes -I got it! Judith Higgins Pavey, Law, Wannop & Witteveen LLP 19 Cambridge Street PO Box 1707 Stn Galt Cambridge, ON N1R 7G8 CANADA tel: (519) 621-7260 fax: (519) 621-1304 voice mail: (519) 621-2540, ext. 300 web: www.paveylaw.com [email protected] The contents of this e-mail message and all attachments are intended for the confidential use of the addressee and where addressed to our client are the subject of solicitor and client privilege. Any retention, review, reproduction, distribution or disclosure other than by the addressee is prohibited. Please notify us immediately if we have transmitted this message to you in error. Thank you. >>> Nan Brennan <[email protected]> 2/5/2009 4:22 pm >>> recent post to the NirDown list reply to Peter Meaney bounced back just testing to see if this is delivered. --------------------------------- 476 list members as of 1 Feb 2009 - how many are related to you? --------------------------------- Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I wonder if anyone on the list with access to Canadian passenger records could please do a lookup for me. I'm looking for John MEANEY (or other variant) who sometime between 1912 and March 1915 went from Co. Down to Canada and is believed to have been heading to British Columbia to work some land under a scheme where the land could have eventually became his own. John is known to have joined the Canadian Mounted Rifles in 1915. Regards Pete.

The 1901 Census for Clarkhill townland Kilkeel CP Downpatrick PLU is now on my website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~meaneypj/index.htm via the 'Latest Updates' link. Regards Pete.

recent post to the NirDown list reply to Peter Meaney bounced back just testing to see if this is delivered.

Recruitment papers were dated 24 March 1915. On Feb 5, 2009, at 3:16 PM, Nan Brennan wrote: > Peter I see a John Meaney ,born Dromara Co Down, son of Hugh born 3 > Oct 1886 > Closest kin father Hugh in Steward Scotland. > Attestation for Canadian Expeditionary Forces.....do you think that > is him? > > Nan > > On Feb 5, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Peter J Meaney wrote: > >> I wonder if anyone on the list with access to Canadian passenger >> records could please do a lookup for me. >> >> I'm looking for John MEANEY (or other variant) who sometime between >> 1912 and March 1915 went from Co. Down to Canada and is believed to >> have been heading to British Columbia to work some land under a >> scheme where the land could have eventually became his own. John is >> known to have joined the Canadian Mounted Rifles in 1915. >> >> Regards Pete. >> --------------------------------- >> 476 list members as of 1 Feb 2009 - how many are related to you? >> --------------------------------- >> Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >

Greetings from Canada Peter! I have checked the National Archives here and have come up with 3 John Meaneys-one born 1874, one born 1886 and one born 1891-doesn't list where they are from but they were soldiers in the First World War. Anyway, thought you might like this site. If you cannot access it let me know and I will see what I can do. www.collectionscanada.gc.ca Judith Higgins Pavey, Law, Wannop & Witteveen LLP 19 Cambridge Street PO Box 1707 Stn Galt Cambridge, ON N1R 7G8 CANADA tel: (519) 621-7260 fax: (519) 621-1304 voice mail: (519) 621-2540, ext. 300 web: www.paveylaw.com [email protected] The contents of this e-mail message and all attachments are intended for the confidential use of the addressee and where addressed to our client are the subject of solicitor and client privilege. Any retention, review, reproduction, distribution or disclosure other than by the addressee is prohibited. Please notify us immediately if we have transmitted this message to you in error. Thank you. >>> "Peter J Meaney" <[email protected]> 2/5/2009 11:15 am >>> I wonder if anyone on the list with access to Canadian passenger records could please do a lookup for me. I'm looking for John MEANEY (or other variant) who sometime between 1912 and March 1915 went from Co. Down to Canada and is believed to have been heading to British Columbia to work some land under a scheme where the land could have eventually became his own. John is known to have joined the Canadian Mounted Rifles in 1915. Regards Pete. --------------------------------- 476 list members as of 1 Feb 2009 - how many are related to you? --------------------------------- Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am researching a Graham family from Banbridge in the 1750-1830 period. Could someone suggest sources of information for this period and area? I would like to find documentation to verify the tree below. Thanks, Roy |-2. William GRAHAM (b.Abt 1749-Perthshire,Scotland d.Banbridge,County Down,Ireland) | sp: Jane WALLACE (b.Abt 1753-Perthshire,Scotland d.Banbridge,County Down,Ireland) | |-3. John GRAHAM (a.30 Dec 1781-Presbyterian Church,Banbridge,County Down,Ireland d.7 Mar 1853-Thurlow Twp,Hasting's Co,Ont,Canada) | | sp: Margaret MULHOLLAND (b.1778-Ireland m.Abt 1802 d.16 Jan 1859-Thurlow Township,Hastings County,Ontario) | | |-4. Jane GRAHAM (b.1814-Ballyshannon,Donegal,Ireland d.17 Jan 1892-Ontario) | | | sp: Hugh Keys (b.1816-North Derryvullan,Fermanagh Ireland m.Abt 1837 d.19 Dec 1874-Ontario) | | |-4. Francis GRAHAM (b.1805-Ballyshannon,Donegal,Ireland d.1895-Thurlow Twp,Hasting's County,Ontario,Canada) | | | sp: Ann MARTIN (b.15 Mar 1818-Ballyshannon,Donegal,Ireland m.Abt 1840 d.1898-Thurlow Twp,Hasting's Co,Ont,Canada) | | |-4. George GRAHAM (b.1804-Ballyshannon,Donegal,Ireland d.23 Feb 1884-,Ontario,Canada) | | | sp: Isabella VANCE (b.1812-,Ireland m.9 Feb 1841 d.1894-,Ontario,Canada) | | |-4. John GRAHAM (b.15 Jan 1817-Ballyshannon,Donegal,Ireland d.1901/1902-,Hasting's Co,Ont,Canada) | | | sp: Mary STINSON (b.Abt 1825-,Ireland m.Abt 1846 d.Dead-,Ontario,Canada) | | |-4. Mary GRAHAM (b.1819-Ballyshannon,Donegal,Ireland d.10 Jan 1881) | | | sp: Francis ELLIOTT (b.1818-,Ireland m.Abt 1843 d.27 Jul 1901-,Ontario,Canada) | | +-4. Catherine GRAHAM (b.Jul 1822-Ballyshannon,Donegal,Ireland d.26 Feb 1899-Rawdon Twp,Hastings Co,Ontario,Canada) | | sp: William ELLIOTT (b.1818-,Ireland m.Abt 1845 d.1887-,Canada) | |-3. Thomas GRAHAM (b.2 Mar 1790-Banbridge,County Down,Ireland) | +-3. Robert GRAHAM (b.26 Jul 1792-Banbridge,County Down,Ireland) |-2. Philip GRAHAM (b.Perthshire,Scotland) +-2. Robert GRAHAM (b.Perthshire,Scotland a..

Hello, Looking for info on Richard ORR possibly of Glastry. Richard was listed as father to James ORR on a 1827 marriage entry between James and Charlotte HASTINGS at Glastry Presbyterian Church. Richard's approx date of birth would be 1780. Regards, Richard James ORR Canada

I have further information re the Shortt family of the townland of Cabra, County Down since my postings of October 2008. Am hoping to find someone with genealogical or other information of this family. On Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 the following: James Shortt, 18 (birth about 1911), born Cabra, County Down, Northern Ireland, farm worker, landed immigrant. Port of departure Belfast, port of arrival Montreal Quebec 16 Aug 1929 on the Dutchess of Athol ship. His destination was stated as an uncle the Rev R. Magowan, 14th Avenue, Calgary, Alberta His father given as Mr. James Shortt, Greenhill, Cabra, Lisburn, Northern Ireland. By googling the name "Rev. R. Magowan Calgary" I found that his name was Robert Magowan and he was a Presbyterian minister in Calgary at the time of the church unions into the United Church of Canada. Margaret Gordon, London, Ontario

Have tried to find the following family in" family search" and "ancestryireland" without success, Also tried several other sites but only have dial up and downloading frequently drops out. Have found marriages in St Mary's CofI Newry index for George Gordon and Mary Ann Stewart 1852 parents Henry Gordonand Margaret Fullerton and John Stewart and ?? Stewart.Another for George's brother Henry Hamilton Gordon and Mary Ann Coffey in 1862 parents James Coffey and Jane Ross. Would really like to find Henry and Margaret Gordon's birth , marriage and family. Family legend says Scotland was their homeland . Is it at all possible to trace back that far? Regards from a very hot Victoria, Australia Shirley

Hi Shirley Try Scotlands People http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ Regards Lyn In Brisbane Oz -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Doug & Shirley Stevenson Sent: Wednesday, 4 February 2009 7:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Puzzled Have tried to find the following family in" family search" and "ancestryireland" without success, Also tried several other sites but only have dial up and downloading frequently drops out. Have found marriages in St Mary's CofI Newry index for George Gordon and Mary Ann Stewart 1852 parents Henry Gordonand Margaret Fullerton and John Stewart and ?? Stewart.Another for George's brother Henry Hamilton Gordon and Mary Ann Coffey in 1862 parents James Coffey and Jane Ross. Would really like to find Henry and Margaret Gordon's birth , marriage and family. Family legend says Scotland was their homeland . Is it at all possible to trace back that far? Regards from a very hot Victoria, Australia Shirley --------------------------------- 476 list members as of 1 Feb 2009 - how many are related to you? --------------------------------- Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Andy, Thank you for more wonderful Irish pictures. When I looked at the photograph of Charles McCormick and his family, John McCormack the Speaker of the House (during Kennedy a few other presidents) came to mind immediately. I remember John McCormack because of the succession line after President Kennedy was assassinated . I have no idea where John McCormack's family came from but the resemblance between him and your Charles McCormick is striking. Picture of Speaker of the House John McCormack http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://pro.corbis.com/images/U1348585.jpg%3Fsize%3D67%26uid%3D%257B78FBE2C1-B8BF-4A16-91DE-9D1C6AAAF44C%257D&imgrefurl=http://pro.corbis.com/search/Enlargement.aspx%3FCID%3Disg%26mediauid%3D%257B78FBE2C1-B8BF-4A16-91DE-9D1C6AAAF44C%257D&h=480&w=496&sz=50&tbnid=6ifhJjuc8nrD9M::&tbnh=126&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dspeaker%2Bof%2Bthe%2Bhouse%2Bjohn%2Bmccormack%2Bphotograph&usg=__cgA1mTkuJsrpBTYYf7GBBcYH2zQ=&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=4&ct=image&cd=1 Beannachtai, Margaret (Máiread)

Try for free www.scotsorigins.com -------- Original Message -------- > Have tried to find the following family in" family search" and "ancestryireland" without success, Also tried several other sites but only have dial up and downloading frequently drops out. > Have found marriages in St Mary's CofI Newry index for George Gordon and Mary Ann Stewart 1852 parents Henry Gordonand Margaret Fullerton and John Stewart and ?? Stewart.Another for George's brother Henry Hamilton Gordon and Mary Ann Coffey in 1862 parents James Coffey and Jane Ross. > Would really like to find Henry and Margaret Gordon's birth , marriage and family. Family legend says Scotland was their homeland . Is it at all possible to trace back that far? > Regards from a very hot Victoria, Australia > Shirley > --------------------------------- > 476 list members as of 1 Feb 2009 - how many are related to you? > --------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) > Database version: 5.11690 > http://www.pctools.com/uk/internet-security/ > >

Gentle listers, The maps of the Belfast area seem to have been very popular. I've posted a lot of pictures of old Belfast on my Flickr site. Yes, in the collection that displays you'll see a number of pictures of my family. But the majority of the pictures are of such things as: * Belfast during the blitz * 4 images of the old St. Anne's * A few postcard images of Belfast in the early 1900s * A remarkable picture of Little York St. in 1887 * An image from the two block-long Grove St. in Sailortown from about 1922 with British soldiers standing guard. http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyairriess/sets/72157604322031931/ I hope you enjoy the images There are also some nice images on this Flickr group page called Old Belfast and Northern Ireland: http://www.flickr.com/groups/oldbelfast/pool/ Andy Airriess

Hi , I'm trying to reply to Isabel McNeill on [email protected] who is researching McGowans in Drumdrinagh, Drumballyroney parish. Can anyone tell me is there is something wrong with the address as my replies keep getting bumped back by the postmaster, Best wishes, Ros Davies

Ros Could the snow be putting a spanner in hte works at present? Mike Boyd brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosalind Davies" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:06 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] McGowan of Drumdrinagh > Hi , > I'm trying to reply to Isabel McNeill on > [email protected] who is researching McGowans in > Drumdrinagh, Drumballyroney parish. Can anyone tell me is there is > something wrong with the address as my replies keep getting bumped back > by the postmaster, > Best wishes, > Ros Davies > --------------------------------- > 476 list members as of 1 Feb 2009 - how many are related to you? > --------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message