Re banbridge ,O'Neill, Banbridge Genealogy services have moved to a larger building and are in the process of updating all their records, iam waiting on news from them about it, the link below will take you to Jason Diamond the head of it for any queries, as for the O'Neill research, two years ago i done a lot of research for the O'Neill family in Banbridge, Iam looking for the disc its on now and if i find it i will post it on the list, Raymond [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "E Macklin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 3:12 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Banbridge Genealogy Services > PRONI and UHF tend to have the same data base and specialize in pre-1863 > records. > GRO on the other hand is a post 1863 data base. The Banbridge folks have > an > excellent > tie into the local Banbridge Library stuff including news paper records. > Your listing for the Banbridge site is incorrect. You actually listed it > twice on the same line. > > Eric Macklin > As in all genealogical endeavours, > The further back you look, > The further back you see. > > From: "Charles O'Neill" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 1:50 PM > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Banbridge Genealogy Services > > > Having just (after long years of trying) placed my O'Neill ancestors in > Banbridge in 1825, I am toying with the notion of a trek to the old sod > to visit PRONI and other record-holding sites in Ireland. Never had > enough info to even consider it before. > > I note that Banbridge has a genealogy service - Banbridge Genealogy > Services. Does anyone know if this organization has any unique access > to any records which are not held by PRONI, GRO Northern Ireland, or the > UHF? (emails to their email address listed on their Rootsweb website - > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donaghmore1/bangenserv.html - > bounce and those to their direct website - > http://www.banbridgegenealogy.com/.banbridgegenealogy.com - go unanswered. > ThanksCharles O'Neill > > --------------------------------- > 476 list members as of 1 Feb 2009 - how many are related to you? > --------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1939 - Release Date: 02/06/09 17:28:00

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sharon Oddie Brown Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 3:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] REA of Ballynahinch, 1700s Have you tried the deeds registry - looking not only under REA but also the family names of women that they may have married? It is tedious work, but sometimes breaks down brick walls when nothing else works. It either means a trip to Dublin, or else ordering records through LDS. Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Rea" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] REA of Ballynahinch, 1700s > Mike, that's just it; I'm /looking for/ evidence to prove or disprove a > hunch I have. I really don't know if William Rea, born in Ballynahinch in > 1715 is William Rea, Esq or not. I want to verify - one way or the other - > if he is. If he isn't, fine, but, if he /is/, and he also turns out to > have my g-g-g-g-grandfather Matthew Sutherland Rea listed in his will > (probated in 1749 in Newry, where Matthew emigrated from in 1774 and where > all five of Matthew's children were born) as a son of his, then it proves > I'm descended from the Reas of Ballynahinch. If, on the other hand, if > Matthew is in the will, but the two Williams turn out to not be the same > man, then I've still found a probable 5th great-grandfather in William > Rea, Esq, at least. Sort of trying to kill two research birds with one > stone. ;) > > Gary Rea > > --------------------------------- > 476 list members as of 1 Feb 2009 - how many are related to you? > --------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1939 - Release Date: > 07/02/2009 1:39 PM > > --------------------------------- 476 list members as of 1 Feb 2009 - how many are related to you? --------------------------------- Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mike, that's just it; I'm /looking for/ evidence to prove or disprove a hunch I have. I really don't know if William Rea, born in Ballynahinch in 1715 is William Rea, Esq or not. I want to verify - one way or the other - if he is. If he isn't, fine, but, if he /is/, and he also turns out to have my g-g-g-g-grandfather Matthew Sutherland Rea listed in his will (probated in 1749 in Newry, where Matthew emigrated from in 1774 and where all five of Matthew's children were born) as a son of his, then it proves I'm descended from the Reas of Ballynahinch. If, on the other hand, if Matthew is in the will, but the two Williams turn out to not be the same man, then I've still found a probable 5th great-grandfather in William Rea, Esq, at least. Sort of trying to kill two research birds with one stone. ;) Gary Rea

Sorry, Sandra, I have no idea how my message arrived blank. Weird. I just checked my database for all Samuel Reas and didn't find the one you're looking for. Sorry. My original query was: I'd be interested to know if anyone researching the REA families of Ballynahinch happens to have any data showing a connection between them and the Reas of Newry during the 1700s. I have a theory that the William Rea christened at Ballynahinch Presbyterian Church in 1715 may be the same William Rea Esq. whose will was probated in Newry in 1749.

Have you tried the deeds registry - looking not only under REA but also the family names of women that they may have married? It is tedious work, but sometimes breaks down brick walls when nothing else works. It either means a trip to Dublin, or else ordering records through LDS. Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Rea" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] REA of Ballynahinch, 1700s > Mike, that's just it; I'm /looking for/ evidence to prove or disprove a > hunch I have. I really don't know if William Rea, born in Ballynahinch in > 1715 is William Rea, Esq or not. I want to verify - one way or the other - > if he is. If he isn't, fine, but, if he /is/, and he also turns out to > have my g-g-g-g-grandfather Matthew Sutherland Rea listed in his will > (probated in 1749 in Newry, where Matthew emigrated from in 1774 and where > all five of Matthew's children were born) as a son of his, then it proves > I'm descended from the Reas of Ballynahinch. If, on the other hand, if > Matthew is in the will, but the two Williams turn out to not be the same > man, then I've still found a probable 5th great-grandfather in William > Rea, Esq, at least. Sort of trying to kill two research birds with one > stone. ;) > > Gary Rea > > --------------------------------- > 476 list members as of 1 Feb 2009 - how many are related to you? > --------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1939 - Release Date: > 07/02/2009 1:39 PM > >

My O'Neill ancestor is shown as being baptised in the following place: Parish/District: DROMORE Roman Catholic Address 1: BELLANY (I am fairly certain this is a mistake in transcription, and ought to read "BALLENY" - a townland in the Parish of Dromore at the time of his baptism) Address 2: ___________ Address 3: Banbridge Address 4: Co Down I can not tell by looking at the map I have if Banbridge is within the townland of Balleny. It seems to me it may be just south of that townland. Can anyone tell me if, in fact, Banbridge falls within the boundaries of the 1825 townland of Balleny? Would these addresses indicate that my ancestor was baptised in Banbridge (and I am not sure there was a RC Church in Banbridge in 1825) or if he may have been baptised in Dromore, but resided in Banbridge? That's for any help here. Charles O'Neill ________________________ Charles O'Neill wrote: > Having just (after long years of trying) placed my O'Neill ancestors > in Banbridge in 1825, I am toying with the notion of a trek to the old > sod to visit PRONI and other record-holding sites in Ireland. Never > had enough info to even consider it before. > > I note that Banbridge has a genealogy service - Banbridge Genealogy > Services. Does anyone know if this organization has any unique access > to any records which are not held by PRONI, GRO Northern Ireland, or > the UHF? (emails to their email address listed on their Rootsweb > website - > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donaghmore1/bangenserv.html > - bounce and those to their direct website - > http://www.banbridgegenealogy.com - go unanswered. > > > Thanks > > Charles O'Neill

Hi Charles If the addresses that you are quoting are from a research source, then it may be indicating that Balleny is in the parish of Dromore and the parish of Dromore is in the Poor Law Union of Banbridge. Rick Hutton ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -------Original Message------- From: Charles O'Neill Date: 2/8/2009 10:37:27 AM Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Banbridge Genealogy Services - follow-up question My O'Neill ancestor is shown as being baptised in the following place: Parish/District: DROMORE Roman Catholic Address 1: BELLANY (I am fairly certain this is a mistake in transcription, and ought to read "BALLENY" - a townland in the Parish of Dromore at the time of his baptism) Address 2: ___________ Address 3: Banbridge Address 4: Co Down I can not tell by looking at the map I have if Banbridge is within the townland of Balleny. It seems to me it may be just south of that townland. Can anyone tell me if, in fact, Banbridge falls within the boundaries of the 1825 townland of Balleny? Would these addresses indicate that my ancestor was baptised in Banbridge (and I am not sure there was a RC Church in Banbridge in 1825) or if he may have been baptised in Dromore, but resided in Banbridge? That's for any help here. Charles O'Neill

Gary What "evidence" do you have to suggest this link? Same name, same "general" location. Just hope that your Rae familis is not like the Boyd families of the 1700's - evenone had at least one William as a son. Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Hettrick" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 7:37 AM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] REA of Ballynahinch, 1700s > Gary Rea is running into some kind of technical glitch that I will > have to research for a fix. > > In the meantime, here's the message he was trying to post: > > On Feb 7, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Gary Rea wrote: > > I'd be interested to know if anyone researching the REA families of > Ballynahinch happens to have any data showing a connection between > them and the Reas of Newry during the 1700s. I have a theory that the > William Rea christened at Ballynahinch Presbyterian Church in 1715 may > be the same William Rea Esq. whose will was probated in Newry in 1749. > > Gary Rea > > [email protected] > > --------------------------------- > 476 list members as of 1 Feb 2009 - how many are related to you? > --------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

PRONI and UHF tend to have the same data base and specialize in pre-1863 records. GRO on the other hand is a post 1863 data base. The Banbridge folks have an excellent tie into the local Banbridge Library stuff including news paper records. Your listing for the Banbridge site is incorrect. You actually listed it twice on the same line. Eric Macklin As in all genealogical endeavours, The further back you look, The further back you see. From: "Charles O'Neill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 1:50 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Banbridge Genealogy Services Having just (after long years of trying) placed my O'Neill ancestors in Banbridge in 1825, I am toying with the notion of a trek to the old sod to visit PRONI and other record-holding sites in Ireland. Never had enough info to even consider it before. I note that Banbridge has a genealogy service - Banbridge Genealogy Services. Does anyone know if this organization has any unique access to any records which are not held by PRONI, GRO Northern Ireland, or the UHF? (emails to their email address listed on their Rootsweb website - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donaghmore1/bangenserv.html - bounce and those to their direct website - http://www.banbridgegenealogy.com/.banbridgegenealogy.com - go unanswered. ThanksCharles O'Neill

A bit of a puzzle here, iam familiar with the surnames from Kilkeel, but on sending for a copy of my great grandmothers birth certificate dated 1865, i see that Arthur Cunningham and john Wightmore were witnesses, the wedding was in Kilkeel Church of Ireland, my great grandmother was a Roman catholic, but turned again when her husband John Marks died, the problem here is , the name Wightmore can this be the well known Kilkeel name Wightman? i know a lot of the old documents make mistakes, and the name Wightmore does not come up in any of the Kilkeel records, any suggestions welcomed, Raymond, (in a cold and snowy Scotland)

I am new to this list but have read list often and also have researched County Down records for many years. Would like to contact anyone who has information on the family of the following couple. William Patton of Billyboghillow [or Ballyboghillbo], born about 1745 died 4 Dec 1820 age 76 wife Jane Warnock, born about 1750 died 10 May 1822 age 72 Buried Grey Abbey Cemetery, Co. Down, Ireland. [has stone] Eloine - Florida USA [email protected]

Having just (after long years of trying) placed my O'Neill ancestors in Banbridge in 1825, I am toying with the notion of a trek to the old sod to visit PRONI and other record-holding sites in Ireland. Never had enough info to even consider it before. I note that Banbridge has a genealogy service - Banbridge Genealogy Services. Does anyone know if this organization has any unique access to any records which are not held by PRONI, GRO Northern Ireland, or the UHF? (emails to their email address listed on their Rootsweb website - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donaghmore1/bangenserv.html - bounce and those to their direct website - http://www.banbridgegenealogy.com/.banbridgegenealogy.com - go unanswered. Thanks Charles O'Neill

Gary Rea is running into some kind of technical glitch that I will have to research for a fix. In the meantime, here's the message he was trying to post: On Feb 7, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Gary Rea wrote: I'd be interested to know if anyone researching the REA families of Ballynahinch happens to have any data showing a connection between them and the Reas of Newry during the 1700s. I have a theory that the William Rea christened at Ballynahinch Presbyterian Church in 1715 may be the same William Rea Esq. whose will was probated in Newry in 1749. Gary Rea [email protected]

Hello Gary: Your message was blank but I was pulled in by your subject line.   I am searching for information on a Samuel Rea who married a Sarah Jane Hazlett in 1852 in Drumballyroney Parish. They had a daughter Emily born 1869 and likely other unknown children as well. I believe Sarah's father William is my late husband's ancestor.   Would you happen to have this couple in your database?   Any info on this family most welcome! Thanks in advance to you and all those who might be able to help. Sandra --- On Sat, 2/7/09, Gary Rea <[email protected]> wrote: From: Gary Rea <[email protected]> Subject: [NIR-DOWN] REA of Ballynahinch, 1700s To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Received: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 3:14 AM --------------------------------- 476 list members as of 1 Feb 2009 - how many are related to you? --------------------------------- Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/

Cyril J Shaw wife Elizabeth Hanna mother Susan Shaw Declaration of Intentions US--Washington District Court 21 December 1917 Cyril Joseph Shaw, age 26, Ship Fitter's Helper born Ballynahinch Co Down Jan 1, 1891 resident 605 7th Ave Seattle Washington emigrated to Seattle from Vancouver BC Canada married to Elizabeth Hanna, born Tacoma Washington arrived Seattle 28 January 1915 Vancouver Manifest of 1915 gives his mother: Mrs Susan Shaw of Birkenhead, Liverpool, England note: Cyril may have been working in Los Angeles in 1920 as a shipbuilding laborer residing on South Hill St. assembly dist 65 ED 236 wife Elizabeth was not with him. by 1930 Elizabeth had joined him in the San Antonia section of Los Angeles Ed 1376 at 1739 E 60th St. No children. Employed as a meterman for the power and light company Hope this helps someone!

I have just posted my annotation of a 1955 news article about Peggy ban DONALDSON. I would take it with a grain of salt. After all, she was in her early 40s when she is alleged to have been a dispatch rider for the United Irishmen in the late 1700s. That's not all. One night, when riding home (on her white horse from Ballybay bought with an inheritance from an elderly aunt) she was accosted by four soldiers. She laid them flat by grabbing a musket from one of them and decking them all with the butt end. Great fun. Anyway, I am still patching together all the various family tendrils around the events of the late 1700s. The Monaghan-Armagh-Down connections do make sense. If anyone can help me find the elderly aunt from Killinchy who may have died in 1796 (and may have had the last name: DONALDSON, MOFFATT, PATTERSON; McCLURE or COPELAND) - I would be supremely grateful. For the article, see: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/documents/newsclippings/1955Peggy-ban-DONALDSON.html Also, I am still trying to figure out who Oswald LAWSON was - likely a United Irishmen sympathizer who made the move to America at a time that suited his judicial health. He was the recipient of two letters from William DONALDSON (brother of Peggy ban) in 1811 and 1812. SEE: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/letters/1811_Donaldson_to_Lawson.htm http://www.thesilverbowl.com/letters/1812_Donaldson_to_Lawson.htm Greta fun. Enjoy, Sharon Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl