I have updated my website with more information "Resale of land 1912 from the estates of the Countess of Kilmorey and others, Kilkeel", a link to this can be found on the second page of my website,as usual the website search engine wont pick up the new material till Monday,and the best of luck in your research. Raymond http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com

As an American--and without the best map of County Down to go by --I hope someone can assist me in understanding the Carryduff area. Is Carryduff an independent village, or a larger area comprised of several villages? I ask this in order to know if Carryduff research would be limited to parish records in one village, or a larger area, and if the latter, where I should be looking? In the US, our counties are broken down into townships, and towns within townships. But I'm unfamiliar with the geographical names of villages in/around the Carryduff. If Carryduff is a larger area with several villages within it, what are the names of the villages within that area? Or, is Carryduff an independent village? Thank you for any assistance in this mapping question.

Hi everyone, An article in our regional newspaper carried the announcement yesterday that historical BDM's for New Zealand were now available online. As I don't have any family that falls within the dates below I don't know how the site works or what information it offers. But from the article is says "The website would be useful to genealogists and people wanting historical birth, death and marriage information about their relatives. It includes details about births at least 100 years ago, stillbirths at least 50 years ago, marriages that took place at least 80 years ago, and deaths that happened at least 50 years ago or if the deceased s date of birth was at least 80 years ago". Births Deaths and Marriages was originally part of the Colonial Office. Births and deaths have been officially recorded since 1848. Marriages have been recorded since 1854. Web site can be found at www.bdmhistoricalrecords.identityservices.govt.nz Good luck Kate

Hi Kate i checked it out its very good i found my uncle and aunts deaths they were 1917 and 1920 thinking about ordering them once i can find out how much inforamtion they have on the certificate Kind regards jean On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Kate Cunningham <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > An article in our regional newspaper carried the announcement yesterday that > historical BDM's for New Zealand were now available online. > > As I don't have any family that falls within the dates below I don't know > how the site works or what information it offers. > > But from the article is says "The website would be useful to genealogists > and people wanting historical birth, death and marriage information about > their relatives. It includes details about births at least 100 years ago, > stillbirths at least 50 years ago, marriages that took place at least 80 > years ago, and deaths that happened at least 50 years ago or if the deceased > s date of birth was at least 80 years ago". > > > Births Deaths and Marriages was originally part of the Colonial Office. > > Births and deaths have been officially recorded since 1848. > > Marriages have been recorded since 1854. > > Web site can be found at > > www.bdmhistoricalrecords.identityservices.govt.nz > > Good luck > > Kate > --------------------------------- > 476 list members as of 1 Feb 2009 - how many are related to you? > --------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kind regards Jean

I hve updated my website with " The return of offences committed in the County of down during the months ended the 11th.March 1862" a list of persons in County down who committed various offences, the website search engine will not pick up new material till Monday, but there is a link on the second page of the website to view names just now,and the best of luck in your research. Raymond http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com

O'Leary and Walshe Aug 10 1948 at St Theresa's Church. Glen Road, Belfast (with Nuptial Mass and Papal Blessing) by Rev H. C. Harte, CC Scragmore. Longford Sean O'Leary, son of Mrs and the late John O'Leary, Killarney Co Kerry, to Mary Josephine Walshe, daughter of Mrs and the late Bernard Walshe, Dromena, Kilcoo,Castlewellan, Co Down.

Irish Independent page8 Feb 19 1929 The death has occurred of MR. M CARR, 16 Cliftonville Rd, Belfast, aged 73. A native of Kilcoo, Co Down, he was father of Rev J. Carr, C.M. St Mary's Lanark, and ofthe late Rev R Carr, O.P. Mr Carr took a deep interest in the welfare of the poor, and was for many years a member of St Patrick's Conference of the St Vincent de Paul Society.

Seeking information on Edward McConville and Mary Burns from the Lurgan area,married in Banbridge Chapel, 23 July 1883 Raymond

I have added 1901 Census transcripts for Blue Row and Circular Road Castlewellan to my Website. It may take a day or two before my site is spidered and the latest additions are picked up by the search engine. They can be reached quickly via the 'latest updates' link on my homepage at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~meaneypj/index.htm Regards Pete. [email protected]

Thanks to Stan Megraw, the Inquirey into the conditions of the poorer classes in Ireland for County down has been added to my website,there are over a thousand names here from all over county down, the search engine wont pick up the new names till monday, but go to the second page of the website (where the website index is) and there is a link to all the names and places,and the best of luck in your research. Raymond http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com

Re request for Carryduff gravestone inscriptions, Volume 1 Co. Down  -   published 1966 Carryduff Presbyterian Graveyard.  O.S. 9 Grid Ref., 369651.   CUMMING  (only one entry). Erected by Samuel Cumming of Carryduff to the memory of his wife Susanna Cumming who died 12th December, 1851 aged 38 years. Also his child Sarah Jane who died young.   Glen   [email protected] --- On Tue, 24/2/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Gravestone Inscriptions: Carryduff (families (CUMMIN(G)S) To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, 24 February, 2009, 6:29 PM Regarding the 'Gravestone Inscriptions of County Down by R.S.J. Clarke, can anyone tell me which of the volumes contain graves for Carryduff? Or, if someone has these, can someone do a look-up in the Carryduff volume(s) for entries for Comyns-Cummins-Cumming-Cummings? Thank you Carol --------------------------------- 476 list members as of 1 Feb 2009 - how many are related to you? --------------------------------- Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Regarding the 'Gravestone Inscriptions of County Down by R.S.J. Clarke, can anyone tell me which of the volumes contain graves for Carryduff? Or, if someone has these, can someone do a look-up in the Carryduff volume(s) for entries for Comyns-Cummins-Cumming-Cummings? Thank you Carol

Can someone tell me where/how to locate foreign wills--ideally an online index?  My ancestor, George CUMMIN(G)S, born about 1770 in NC, but resided somewhere in either SC or GA when, about 1790, he inherited land in County Down, Ireland, and removed there to live, attend college and have his children. The name of his Irish-born wife is unknown. It is conceivable that he married in the US and that the Irish land was inherited this through his wife, but I doubt this as I don't believe he was married yet (under 24 years of age) when he inherited the land, and additionally, his wife was born in Ireland. I've hit a brick-wall in being able to learn anything more about George's parents, his wife or where he lived in the South. It would seem more logical that George inherited this land from a parent, who would have lived in the South at the time of death. There must be a foreign will somewhere for the period of about 1790, but I can't seem to discover where to look and how--in the US or in N. Ireland, etc.? I've checked the County Down wills and probate--their indexes survived the fire of 1920, but don't list George Cummin(g)s. The deceased may have been a relative living in County Down or an American (from SC or GA???) who owned the land in County Down. When the deceased's will was probated and this land 'distributed' to George--and the name transferred on the deed--the will or probate must have gone through civil probate records at either end, certainly? I would deeply appreciate any assistance in knowing how to go about searching for such a foreign will, and if anyone knows of any websites which might pertain to this? A last thought is that I'm aware that LEASED land in N. Ireland, could be handed down to heirs for several generations, so it's occured to me that this could be leased land, rather than owned land. Thank you, Carol (Ashby) Brees

Mike My branch of Shannons (Thomas/Agnes) were in Sadsbury twp, along Octorara creek. One brother was also of Lancaster county, Sadsbury twp, another landed in Norriton twp, Montgomery county, and yet a third ended up in Strahan twp, York county. Thomas first appears in Chester Co. tax records in 1725 in "Sadberry" as did our purported relative Thomas Reid. Mise le meas Wayne Ó Senan rua Tír Gan Teanga Tír Gan Anam http://sites.google.com/site/gaeltachtiowa/ > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:15:47 +1000 > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] FW: Boyd family of Ireland > > Wayne > What township in Lancaster County, PA did your family settle in? This may > give a migration "Path" for other families from Ballnahinch in this early > 1700's period. > > Lancaster County was formed in 1729 from Chester County. So have you looked > at both Counties History Books? > > In 1718 the Rev James Macgregor, the Presbyterian Minister from Aghadowey, > near Coleraine - with other Presbyterian Ministers, led some 300 families > from North Antrim and eastern Derry to Boston and most of these settled in > Londonderry, NH. > > In 2007, I saw a reference in Londonderry City that during the 1700's some > one million Irish migrated to America (Most of these would be after 1718). > > So the Question is did Presbyterians from County Down also feel the same > need to migrate due to actions of Queen Ann? > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wayne Shannon" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 1:31 AM > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] FW: Boyd family of Ireland > > > > Dia Dhaoibh go leor, Hello all > > > > Wayne Shannon here. As long as we are on the subject of Ballynahinch, I > would like to jump in with my problem. I believe that my Shannon's came > from Ballynahinch Presbyterian Church, however, my time frame is before most > of your's. They probably left for the colonies in the area of 1714-1720. > How far back do the records at the Presbyterian church go? I have been to > PRONI twice with no success. We were also closely related to the Reid's and > lived and died along side them in Lancaster County Pa. It seems the only > records available are post 1820 with just a handfull of general census' that > don't include "regular" folks. An féidir libh cabhrú liom? (Can you help > me?) > > > > Wayne Shannon here in the heartland of US (Iowa) > > > --------------------------------- > 476 list members as of 1 Feb 2009 - how many are related to you? > --------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ It’s the same Hotmail®. If by “same” you mean up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_AE_Same_022009

Irish Independent April 5, 1954 page 2 BURNS (Newcastle, Co Down) April 5, 1954 at his nephew's residence, 6 Park Parade, Newcastle Co Down,JAMES, beloved brother of ELIZABETH KANE deeply regretted, R.I.P. On his soul, Sweet Jesur have mercy. His remains will be removed to St Mary's Catholic Church this tuesday evening at 6o'clock. Funeral at 2 o'clock tomorrow Wednesday to family burial ground at Clanvaraghan, Co Down.

Sunday Independent May 6 1945 Mr William McIlroy, K.C. S. G. J.P., who died at his residence, Hilden Cottage, Lisburn, was a well known figure in Northern Ireland linen circles, and was the last survivor of his family. Born of Irish parents iat Courtral, Belgium, where his father was in the flax trade, he went to Lisburn as a boy in 1875 and was educated at St Malachy's College. From being an apprentice at Messrs. Barbour and Sons, he became manager. He retired in 1933. He traveled extensively and spoke several languages. He built a Catholic Church at Clanvaraghan Co Down and endowed two bursaries for church students in St Malachy's College, Belfast.

MURRAY (Downpatrick) April 7 1938 at his residence, Ardnagale, Downpatrick. Dr James J Murray RIP. Funeral from St Patrick's Catholic Church, Downpatrick, at 2 o'clock to-day (Saturday) to family burying grounds, Clanvaraghan.

Irish Independent December 17 1913 The funeral of the late Mr JAS ROONEY, of Ballywad, Castlewellan, ex-Chairman of the Banbridge Board of Guardians, brought together a vast cortege, representing all districts of Co Down. There was a large attendance of clergy. The interment was in the family burying ground at Dechomet, and the chief mourners were; Messrs A.J. Rooney (son) A. Rooney, B. Rooney, and P. Rooney (brothers) Rev E. McCArton, PP Derrymacash, Lurgan; and Mr A. Rice Ballynahinch (brothers-in-law) Mr J Rice (nephew); Messrs. J M/Aleenan, M'McCartan, Ballydrummond; J M/Cartan, Ballymagenaghy, and J ? M'Carton, Ballymagreehan and P. Murphy, Clanvaraghan (relatives) The Banbridge Board of Guardians has passed a resolution of sympathy with the relative of deceased. Note: Des, Seamus, This would be your greatgrandfather, I think?

is now online at http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1891/001081-100.01-e.php Good luck, Wendy

and all the lovely Harper & Martin & Poole families live there ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ella Patterson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Ballynahinch > Ballynahinch is also a town in County Down (this one is not a barony) > Ella > > Ella Patterson > Cataloguer > Cataloguing Department > Main Library > Resources Management Division > The Queen's University of Belfast > University Square > Belfast > BT7 1LS > Northern Ireland > > Tele: +44 28 90973639 > Email: [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Sean McCartan > Sent: 18 February 2009 07:41 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Ballynahinch > > The Barony Of Ballynahinch is in County Galway. > > Sean > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Michelle Roberts > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:04 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NIR-DOWN] Ballynahinch > > > Hi List > Just a little confused. Some info coming through has nothing to do with > my family of Rice's but occasionally there are little gems about other > sites, etc, I check out and find this a great service. I don't have the > time to look for everything and I thank you. > > I think I was looking at a pension site someone mentioned and came > across the Barony of Ballynahinch in County Galwey. I though > Ballynahinch was in County Down. Can anyone explain? > > Cheers > Michelle Roberts (Rice) > Western Australia > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > _ > This message may contain privileged and confidential information and is > intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). > You must not disclose this communication to anyone without the prior > consent > of the Department for Communities(DFC). > If you have received this email in error, please notify us by return mail, > delete it from your system and destroy all copies. > DFC has exercised care to avoid errors in the information contained in > this > email but does not warrant that it is error or omission free. > > --------------------------------- > 476 list members as of 1 Feb 2009 - how many are related to you? > --------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 17752 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > > --------------------------------- > 476 list members as of 1 Feb 2009 - how many are related to you? > --------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > --------------------------------- > 476 list members as of 1 Feb 2009 - how many are related to you? > --------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >