Dear Listers...Thank you Rosemary and Patrick for your comments to my query and also Nancy...sorry there isn't any Hunter connections in your Carse line. Matthew was a miller and he had a flax mill and corn mill in Ravara Killinchy. In his will he mentions all my freehold and chattel property in the townlands of Ballygowan and Ravara and any other property he has all being left to his life. Anna Orr was the executrix and it is recorded she was living with Matthew and his wife at the time the will was made out . According to the 1963 Griffiths Valuation his wife leased out 18 acres and a flax and corn mill. I obtained the full will from PRONI when I was there a couple of years ago. However looking at their website of wills I found the full abstract and I can see that Anna Orr had married in the 10 years it had taken for the will to be proved to James Carse of Killinchy. Effects of will 50 pounds. (I imagine this would not have taken into account the property value). I'm following this up as I would imagine Anna Orr would have been a relative and trying to find a connection with my Hunters. Thank you. Maureen

I have added another 500 or so 1881 Lancashire Down strays to the 'Down Strays' section of my website. They can be reached quickly via the 'Latest Updates' link on my homepage at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~meaneypj/index.htm Regards Pete [email protected]

Peter . Thanks for your work. You have done a wonderful job with your site. I found some Davey's in Northumberland who may belong to me. Owen Davey in Canada. Your lead to Dr. Moore's Ellis island site LED ME TO MY DAD. He apparently cleared customs in NYC as an landed immigrant. Sailed on the White Star SS Celtic, from Liverpool, landing in NYC on 26 April 1921. I had always thought he went out as crew but the documentation shows that he was processed as an immigrant. Supports an oral story in my family that he did go to the US but could not get my mother out. He stayed for a while then went back to the UK. A quite different sequel ensued. He was caught by the Great Depression in the UK, then WWII, only to come top Canada in 1953. We sailed from Liverpool on the CP line Empress of Scotland. ironically that was almost 32 yrs to the day that he first left the UK. Konwing my Dad he was well aware of the quasi anniversary. Our home was in Morecame, Lancs, not far from you. Regards. Owen Davey, Gagetown, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter J Meaney" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected] Com" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 6:29 PM Subject: [NIR-DOWN] 1881 Lancashire Down Strays >I have added another 500 or so 1881 Lancashire Down strays to the 'Down >Strays' section of my website. They can be reached quickly via the 'Latest >Updates' link on my homepage at >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~meaneypj/index.htm > > Regards Pete > [email protected] > ---------------------------------------- > 479 list members as of 1 Mar 2009 - this is a good place to ask your > questions! > ---------------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1987 - Release Date: 03/06/09 07:20:00

Mike Boyd in Australia Have you gone through Peter J. Meaney's site for the Co Down strays which peter has indentified from the various UK censuses. I was looking for someone else and saewa few boyd references. Owen Davey CDA

> My 3x great grandfather MATTHEW HUNTER died in 1854 at Ravara in the parish of Killinchy Co Down. His will was not proved until 10 years later in 1864. Would anyone give me some ideas as to why this was so...perhaps family squabbling? The executrix was an ANNA CARSE otherwise ORR wife of JAMES CARSE of Raffery Killinchy Co Down farmer. Anna and James are not known to me...would anyone on the list be researching this couple. Many thanks. Maureen

Maureen I have both Carse and Orr in my line from Killinchy, but not the James and Anna you mentioned. I also checked to see if any of my line had connections to the Hunter name and could find none. Nancy

Wow! That didn't last long. A friend told me about it this morning and it was free then. I must have gotten the word at the end of the free period.. Sorry for getting expectations up. > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 06:41:11 -0600 > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Times newspaper archives online free trial > > It's not really free, is it? > You can seach for free, but you have to pay for the article, don't you? > > Nan > > > On Mar 6, 2009, at 5:18 AM, Patrick McKenney wrote: > > > > > Search the Times newspaper (free trial) from 1785 to 1985: > > > > http://archive.timesonline.co.uk > > > > Unlike other "free" offers, a credit card is not required. Not sure > > how long this will be available for free. > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows > > Live Spaces. It's easy! > > http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us > > ---------------------------------------- > > 479 list members as of 1 Mar 2009 - this is a good place to ask your > > questions! > > ---------------------------------------- > > Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > ---------------------------------------- > 479 list members as of 1 Mar 2009 - this is a good place to ask your questions! > ---------------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx

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Hello Maureen: I would have to agree with Rosemary about countryfolk postponing such unusual tasks. I spent days ging through all the McKenny wills in the probate court records at the PRONI several times over the years and noticed that if the value of the estate was minimal, there was usually a delay in proving the will. Or there were simialr delays in some cases were it appeared that the deceased died without children, husband, etc. and the executor wasn't a direct family memeber. Having said that, there was one case of a substantial estate where one of the heirs filed a dispute that required some time to resolve. If you look at the will calendar on line at the PRONI (http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/will_calendars/wills_search.htm), it will give you the value of the estate and that might give you a clue. Patrick McKenney > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:46:01 +0000 > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Will > > I have the same scenario with my gg grandfather. I think that they (the > family) being country folk, didn't bother with such things until it was > absolutely necessary, i.e. until his son (my g.grandfather) died. That's > all I can suggest. RosemaryJoan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "maureenoc" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 7:31 AM > Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Will > > > > > > > >> My 3x great grandfather MATTHEW HUNTER died in 1854 at Ravara in the > >> parish of Killinchy Co Down. His will was not proved until 10 years later > >> in 1864. Would anyone give me some ideas as to why this was so...perhaps > >> family squabbling? The executrix was an ANNA CARSE otherwise ORR wife of > >> JAMES CARSE of Raffery Killinchy Co Down farmer. Anna and James are not > >> known to me...would anyone on the list be researching this couple. Many > >> thanks. Maureen > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > 479 list members as of 1 Mar 2009 - this is a good place to ask your > > questions! > > ---------------------------------------- > > Searchable list archive at > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ---------------------------------------- > 479 list members as of 1 Mar 2009 - this is a good place to ask your questions! > ---------------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/

I have the same scenario with my gg grandfather. I think that they (the family) being country folk, didn't bother with such things until it was absolutely necessary, i.e. until his son (my g.grandfather) died. That's all I can suggest. RosemaryJoan ----- Original Message ----- From: "maureenoc" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Will > > >> My 3x great grandfather MATTHEW HUNTER died in 1854 at Ravara in the >> parish of Killinchy Co Down. His will was not proved until 10 years later >> in 1864. Would anyone give me some ideas as to why this was so...perhaps >> family squabbling? The executrix was an ANNA CARSE otherwise ORR wife of >> JAMES CARSE of Raffery Killinchy Co Down farmer. Anna and James are not >> known to me...would anyone on the list be researching this couple. Many >> thanks. Maureen > > ---------------------------------------- > 479 list members as of 1 Mar 2009 - this is a good place to ask your > questions! > ---------------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I was hoping you were going to tell me I was doing something wrong! Nan On Mar 6, 2009, at 6:52 AM, Patrick McKenney wrote: > > Wow! That didn't last long. A friend told me about it this morning > and it was free then. I must have gotten the word at the end of the > free period.. > > Sorry for getting expectations up. > >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 06:41:11 -0600 >> Subject: Re: [NIR-DOWN] Times newspaper archives online free trial >> >> It's not really free, is it? >> You can seach for free, but you have to pay for the article, don't >> you? >> >> Nan >> >> >> On Mar 6, 2009, at 5:18 AM, Patrick McKenney wrote: >> >>> >>> Search the Times newspaper (free trial) from 1785 to 1985: >>> >>> http://archive.timesonline.co.uk >>> >>> Unlike other "free" offers, a credit card is not required. Not sure >>> how long this will be available for free. >>> >>> >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows >>> Live Spaces. It's easy! >>> http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us >>> ---------------------------------------- >>> 479 list members as of 1 Mar 2009 - this is a good place to ask your >>> questions! >>> ---------------------------------------- >>> Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >> >> ---------------------------------------- >> 479 list members as of 1 Mar 2009 - this is a good place to ask >> your questions! >> ---------------------------------------- >> Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get > it now! > http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx > ---------------------------------------- > 479 list members as of 1 Mar 2009 - this is a good place to ask your > questions! > ---------------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

It's not really free, is it? You can seach for free, but you have to pay for the article, don't you? Nan On Mar 6, 2009, at 5:18 AM, Patrick McKenney wrote: > > Search the Times newspaper (free trial) from 1785 to 1985: > > http://archive.timesonline.co.uk > > Unlike other "free" offers, a credit card is not required. Not sure > how long this will be available for free. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows > Live Spaces. It's easy! > http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us > ---------------------------------------- > 479 list members as of 1 Mar 2009 - this is a good place to ask your > questions! > ---------------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

While looking through the passenger lists to Canada the following people were found. Does anyone recognize or have information of the families from which they come? Nellie Shortt, born 1891, Monaghan, domestic, destination niece of William Shortt, 13 Goffee St. Shawinigan Falls, Quebec, nearest relative in Ireland father John Shortt, Drumaclan, Badrum, County Monaghan, arrived at Quebec in 1925. William Shortt, born 1863, of Shawinigan Falls, Quebec, who married Mary Elizabeth Paterson is the son of William Short and Mary Jane Hamilton of Drumneil, and Middletown. William Shortt, born 1857, retired, wife Mary of Newtownhamilton departed Londonderry, arriving Montreal Mar 1925, destination nephew Thomas (Middletown) 318 Lagauchtierre St., Montreal, William's nearest relative in Ireland is brother James Shortt, 26 College St. N. Belfast. Margaret Gordon, Ontario, Canada

Ever wondered how some of the ancestors lived,a description of the poorer classes in Ireland, examination on food, clothing,cottages,furniture etc, ,go to the index page (second page) of my website, click on Kilcoo and Maghera. Raymond http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com

Hi Judy I tried it three times - got the same silly response - seems a waste of space. Pity! regards Dan Hardie Sydney On Tuesday, March 3, 2009, at 12:34 PM, Nan Brennan wrote: > Hi Judy, > > Actually it's not a new resource, it's been around for a few years at > least. > I have used it successfully for several years, It's only recently that > I have > had problems with the search facility on the site. > > Maybe it's just US users that are having problems. Thanks or the > feedback. > > Nan > > > > On Mar 2, 2009, at 7:10 PM, [email protected] wrote: > >> Someone gave Dromore as a resource for tithes in Dromara. I believe >> these >> are two different parishes. If you don't find what you are looking >> for in >> Dromore. Check this out. >> >> Regarding Nan's question about internment sites. I had the same >> problem, It >> seems to work fine until you put in a search and then it says too >> busy. I >> tried from your link, Nan and also from google. Same result both >> ways. I also >> noted that in searching for a cemetery in Denver Colorado only >> three were listed >> and those were three of the less frequently used cemeteries in the >> area. A >> resource in process I guess. but it always would be wouldn't it? >> >> Judy McKeon >> >> >> **************Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest >> jobs in a >> recession. >> (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job- >> industries?ncid=emlcntuscare00000002 >> ) >> ---------------------------------------- >> 479 list members as of 1 Mar 2009 - this is a good place to ask your >> questions! >> ---------------------------------------- >> Searchable list archive at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > ---------------------------------------- > 479 list members as of 1 Mar 2009 - this is a good place to ask your > questions! > ---------------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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Jon, and all, I've had no response yet to my email to interment.net. I'd like to encourage all of you who have not been able to search the site to write also. If they know enough of us are interested, it might get fixed sooner. This is the person I wrote to: Steve Johnson [email protected] Thanks for all your interest! Nan On Mar 3, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Jon Baker wrote: > Pen > Were you able to successfully do a search when you got to the Search > page? > Like others I can get to the page, but searches are unsuccessful, > "service > is too busy" reply provided. I don't believe this is an issue > specific to > Nan or any OS or browser. > > Jon Baker > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] > ] > On Behalf Of Pen > Sent: 03 March 2009 00:13 > > > Strange Nan, I just clicked on the link you sent and it took me > right to the > > search page. > How about trying googling "internment.net" like I did and see if you > go in > another door. > > ---------------------------------------- > 479 list members as of 1 Mar 2009 - this is a good place to ask your > questions! > ---------------------------------------- > Searchable list archive at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/NIR-DOWN > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hi everyone, I've now uploaded 1901 census transcriptions for the 74 households in Clonvaraghan townland Kilmegan CP onto my website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~meaneypj/index.htm Please visit my guestbook and let me know if you find someone. Regards, Pete. [email protected]

I have added more material to the Newry, Banbridge and Dromore sections of my website, the new material will not be picked up by the website search engine till Monday, but you can view the new material now by going to the Newry, Banbridge and Dromore sections of the website, and the best of luck in your research. Raymond http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com

Pen Were you able to successfully do a search when you got to the Search page? Like others I can get to the page, but searches are unsuccessful, "service is too busy" reply provided. I don't believe this is an issue specific to Nan or any OS or browser. Jon Baker -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pen Sent: 03 March 2009 00:13 Strange Nan, I just clicked on the link you sent and it took me right to the search page. How about trying googling "internment.net" like I did and see if you go in another door.